continued from >>2886224
Post clothing designs, accessories, hair styles etc from specific time periods and cultures.
First, prompt for discussion: Anyone notice how there is an absence in the use of jewelry by Japanese and generally Korean nobility to show off wealth even by women? Outside expensive hairpins and combs, of course. Instead, only large amounts of fabric of high quality (a universal trait) was used. I find it interesting considering it was common in other Asian countries like China or SEA. Was it due to limited access to mineral resources?
>>2901228
Posting other Eastern fashions as comparison.
Turkish woman of a Harem. I will caution this was made during the period of the orientalist rage in Europe so many of the works were exaggerations/ over dramatic views of harem life.
>>2901233
This one is just cute.
C'mon, even if you don't know at least post dose more pics of pieces.
Anyone here in 20th century vintage clothing? Anyone a collector?
Here's a pre-ww1 jacket. I'd suspect it's an early 1900s jacket.
Things of interest:
>Heavy fabric which is not like modern lighter weight fabrics.
>Three button jacket with small lapels.
>Sack jacket which lacks darts in the front.
>Slanted breast pocket which is a trait of Edwardian era jackets.
But despite its age I think the average non-fashion conscious person would probably view it as a normal jacket, assuming you don't try to dress it up in an Edwardian way. I think someone mentioned last thread how the suit hasn't changed much and it's mostly true. There's still some more out there designs that have more "sporty elements" that call back to outdoor hunting events but those are seldom seen past the first half of the 20th century and post-1970s.
It's a old jacket from Hickey & Freeman from the Rochester, NY factory. This is pretty much an old jacket from modern day Hickey-Freeman.
>>2901228
hats in ancient China are various.
>>2901378
here is a portrait of some millionaire. Did you want a specific area?
These exaggerations of Roman robes for women by classical artists were too great lol.
what does /his/ think about the sherwani?
>>2901228
Has there been a period in East Asian history, be it Japan, China, Korea etc. when women wore sleeveless dresses with separate sleeves? Pic related.
>>2901228
There's plenty of jewelry in the form of gold and jade.
>>2901233
The works by Nasreddin Dinet formerly Etienne Dinet before converting to Islam, are pretty unique for Orientalists paintings. They are quite accurate portrayals, for started unlike the others he actually used models from the region in Algeria. Some still had that sexual thing going on, like when he has them nude or bathing. Butwhen they are clothed he captured their clothing and makeup quite well. But even his nudes are accurate
>>2901415
>Top box, #2
>tfw chinese philosophers wore durags
>>2901378
Edwardian fashion is my favorite part of 20th century clothing. Even though it right on the cusp of 19th and 20th century.
>>2901228
I remember I used to think the geisha make up was really hot when I was in middle school.
Maybe I just don't know how to find the right pics, but I remember the white face paint seeming very attractive to me.
I also remember being in Disney World for a middle school band trip, and I passed a group of cheerleaders who seemed to come from Asia for some international competition. At least one of the chicks had some of that geisha make up on and it was so fucking hot (at least, at the time, if I saw it again now, I would probably be freaked out because I don't think she was much older than my middle schooler self).
Anyways, the point of the story is, that now when I look at pictures of girls like in OP's pic, I don't find it attractive at all, and I'm surprised it was ever attractive. Another part of me believes I just can't find the right pictures of models with that kind of makeup. Idk, I'm kinda sad that I can't experience that attraction anymore.
>>2902348
that dotted bra underneath really ruins the dress desu
>>2902820
yeah mostly in the form of hair pins and combs though(esp. or gold). Not really in the form of rings, necklaces, or even earrings (most surprising).
Reminder that the mid-19th century had the best fashion in European history.
>>2903853
I can post some women who actually have pretty faces so it looks good on them.
>>2905622
Idk.. She doesn't do it for me either... I can't even remember what the attractive ones looked like.
I mean, she actually is attractive, but Idk it's not the same.
>>2905622
Is it historically authentic for her to have both natural eyebrows and painted ones at the same time?
>>2905643
How unfortunate. Well to each his own. I will admit the alabaster as foundation was a bit too much. No one's skin can possibly be that white so it looks completely artificial.
>>2905657
Not really but perhaps she is supposed to represent some goddess(kami) with markings. I don't know the time period this is supposed to represent really. I just like the garment design and think the model is gorgeous.
>>2903143
Oh I see. Yeah, there were a few that didn't do that though.
Any idea if this would be under Ottoman culture?
>>2904800
Meh, I prefer 18th myself, more specifically Georgian.
>>2905674
>>2905701
Perhaps indoor wear but not for outdoors. I can't tell how accurate it is though.
>>2905749
I would like someone to educate me on persian dress vs. Ottoman. I know squat about that history. Did Ottoman's adopt a lot of Persian culture?
>>2905722
>>2902348
The sleeves on women's kimono (and other traditional Japanese clothes) are unattached underneath. Men's sleeves are sewn shut.
>>2906884
Any examples of exposed shoulder, covered arm traditional attire? Can't find anything.
>>2907209
That's a really retarded design. Never heard of that before in fashion history.
>>2907209
Why would they do that?
>>2904800
That's true
>>2907209
Methinks anon watches too much anime.
how accurate does tv portray this type of clothing?
Am I the only one who would like to see historically accurate clothes in porn?
>>2907236
very badly I find, i seriously doubt even nobles would wear their best dresses every day. asian drams are particularly bad for this
>>2907270
where would one go to find accurate styles etc?
>>2907236
Chinese dramas tend to be over the top, Korean and Japanese tend to be more accurate
>>2907209
It doesn't exist in traditional clothing. It's just a modern modified design of the unattached underneath sleeve of Japanese clothing for erotic appeal.
>>2907236
The man's head piece looks alright but the pointed shoulder pads and dragon patterns on his clothing looks ridiculous, like he is a video game character. In the Tang Dynasty, women never put that much shit in their hair and the ideal woman was supposed to be a little fat so a skinny Wu Zetian would be considered ugly. Her makeup is applied in a modern style, actual makeup of the Tang Dynasty looked very different (pic related). Clothing at the time was loose and light but this image has both of them look like they are wearing very constricting and heavy costumes.
I've seen a few clips of this show and oddly enough, the only thing accurate is the cleavage.
>>2907323
Tang fashion is nice. It had a huge influence on neighboring Asian countries.
>>2907310
>banning skirts
for what purpose
>>2907266
No. That shit is my jam.
>>2903188
I mean jesus' brother wore it, so it's ought to be good
>>2907357
Men's clothing changed a lot less than women's. The clothing differed based on the person's social class, rank, wealth, and as the Tang Dynasty was known for having a large foreign population, ethnicity. The average person and military men would generally where a tunic with nomadic influenced trousers, this was more practical than the Hanfu that the upper classes would wear as it allowed easier movement and horse riding. Gentry of the shi class would generally where the Hanfu. This was a flowing robe that was more constrictive than the tunic and trousers, but seen as more civilized as it was directly from ancient China and had no foreign influence. This could then again vary based on the person's rank (in government or military) and wealth. Wealthier people would have silk and richer decorations but no matter how rich they were they still had to abide by rules. Some officials of certain ranks were required to carry swords and had robes of a certain color (varied based on rank). Other's had to wear jade belts or have certain symbols on their Hanfu.
Hats were also very important as indicators of rank. The lower classes would sometimes not have a hat and just tie up their hair, or have a simple head covering. Gentry would have hats with two wing like flaps. The purpose was to prevent the officials from leaning towards each other sideways to chat but this seems to have been phased out as during the Tang dynasty the wings would droop.
The attached photo is an example of what the average guy would have worn. The picture is of military men but if you ignore the weapons, the boots, and the head coverings, you'd get a good idea.
>>2901228
Where can I find images of Japanese girls lewdly wearing traditional clothing?
>>2908254
Their traditional clothing is not meant to be lewdly weared. You've come to the wrong place.
>>2908259
>Their traditional clothing is not meant to be lewdly weared.
Fucking spooky.
>>2908259
Nigga I hope you're joking right now
>>2908254
I think there's a certain JAV genre which focused on courtesan/ widow, they mostly use traditional clothes
>>2904800
Hats, gloves and long, puffy dresses are treasures lost to time.
Armour imitating contemporary fashion
>>2908335
I've been watching Empresses in the Palace and how accurate is the costuming? It's supposed to take place in the Qing Dynasty.
ROMAN
O
M
A
N
>>2908700
>>2908704
>>2908711
them layers
Was the 18th century elite the pinnacle of human fashion?
>>2908741
Were*
>>2901473
How do we know if the artists of the time weren't bullshitting us with fantasy clothing? I thought women nudes were a icky thing even in Rome.
>>2908748
>How do we know if the artists of the time weren't bullshitting us with fantasy clothing? I thought women nudes were a icky thing even in Rome.
They were, they really wanted to draw naked women so they did """""historical"""""" clothing like that
Has clean cut tight fitting clothing without all the layers, frills, 9000 colours etc. ever been a pre industrial fashion?
I don't know anything about fashion so i don't know the right words sorry.
>>2908693
Accurate enough. QING dynasty clothing was shit imo. Nothing can replace Hanfu imo.
>>2908218
pics of Tang nobility
>>2908859
Aren't Hanfus today are mostly reconstruction based on paintings and tomb findings though? like some kind of revivalist attempt rather than continuous living tradition as alternative for Qing's influenced Qipao?
>>2908700
don't judge. You must admit that Rome the series had brilliantly accurate set designs. Anyone have saved pic of that awesome black armor Anthony wore one episode?
Modern female fashion (and all its lewdness and indecency) is the best and you know it
>>2909133
???...I wasn't comparing the past to modern though anon. what are you even talking about? I just find how people dressed during certain time periods to be be interesting.Often there are political, cultural, or practical reasons why a certain style became a thing. besides in pic relateds case, women in that country still wear it so...
>>2909133
That's where you're wrong me boyo
>>2909133
>He doesn't know bout muh Minoan civilisation
>>2907236
>>2907290
>>2907323
What the man wearing is called mianfu. It is only worn in special ceremonial events such as coronation, morning audience, etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mianfu
Pic related was drawn in early Tang Dynasty. It shows how accurate of the man's dressing at the drama.
https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/古帝王图#
>>2909415
forgot post picture
>>2908700
Oh shit, I >>2908920
Didn't notice you meant eastern and post republic Rome
>>2909365
Seriously what was the point? Why no just make them go topless? I read the undergarments with the dresses they wore were made in such away that they functioned like a bra or corset and would push the breasts out.
>>2909583
It's not like there has to be a function when it comes to such things. They saw fit to either wear such breast-exaggerating dresses or portray their goddesses as such, for whatever cultural reason. It's not like a tribal Ethiopian stretches their lip with a lip plate to serve a practical purpose.
>>2908254
Was away for a bit. Here are the (grossly inaccurate) lewd styles you wanted
As a side note was the tattoo all over body really a thing with geishas or even just prostitutes? I see it referenced alot but not sure how true.
>>2909784
>>2909784
>>2909792
>>2908254
Now this is just a lewd picture of geisha. Don't know who decided to let the photographer take a picture of them like that though lol
>>2909784
That's a modern western "asian" whore
>>2909804
So the tat thing is also a modern dramatization? I think I may have been mixing geisha up with Yakuza women or maybe whores associated with them.
>>2909803
That's all I got.
Is this 1920 -30s French? I just love the gloves they wore. In the 1900s in general
>>2901795
/fa/ as. Had a coat made similar to that. Turned out my neetness was peaked, couldnt wear it in public
>>2909133
White, flat shoes, black tights, droopy tank top, fake tan. Riiigght.
>>2909829
Aren't tattoos kind of taboo in Japan, specifically because they are generally associated with the yakuza?
>>2909829
They do wear tatoo but not like your picture, also your picture (except >>2909792 which is cosplay)
screams westernised asian punk, from the 'fierce' make up down to the attitude
>>2909912
Yeah basically. Anon wanted women in kimonos being Lewd though so that's what I found. Of course many of them will have more modern or even Western sensibilities.do you mind posting actual examples though?
I found some answers actually pic related
>>2909907
So basically whores associated with Yakuza had them?
Now transitioning back to normal depictions of kimonos
>>2909327
Cute.
These hats were pretty interesting imo.
>>2909557
Signet rings of Roman patricians
>>2910132
>So basically whores associated with Yakuza had them?
I don't know about the historicity of it, but I think I've read/heard somewhere that tattoos, in today's Japan are not popular because they are generally associated with gangs in most people's minds.
>>2901228
In the book, "Japanese Destroyer Captain" the author spends one of the earlier chapters talking about a romantic fling he had with a Geisha girl. She was very young, only 18. Apparently, she was smitten with him, and she was skipping many work days to spend more time with him. Eventually, the Imperial Navy somehow found out about this. The girl's boss had contacted them because he was angry about his girl skipping work so many days. The author was then confronted by another officer of superior rank. The Imperial Navy felt that it was wrong for him to be spending so much time with a woman who was not his wife. He offered to marry her, but he was told that it would be completely unacceptable for a naval officer to marry a Geisha. He was ordered to dump her and then never see her again, or his career as an officer was over.
He wrote to his family for advice, and they wrote back basically calling him an idiot who was risking his promising naval career for some stupid girl. The girl told him during their final visit that spending time with him had been the greatest time of her life, and that she didn't regret it all despite how much money it cost her. She also told him not to worry about her, as she had successfully applied for a visa to immigrate to the United States (Japan and America were still on good terms at this point in time, for the most part). Not really directly related to the topic, but I thought it was a cute and interesting story.
>>2912071
That's really a very cute story.
Reinhard Heydrich had promised a girl to marry her, but then chose to become engaged to a Nazi broad instead. He informed his former love by sending her a news article about his engagement. The spurned woman's enraged father sent a complaint to the Navy (Heydrich was in the Navy's officer track at that time). Now, normally that kind of thing would be considered to damage Heydrich's honor, but not lead to further punishment. However, during his hearing in front of the Navy honor coucil, Heydrich behaved in a very arrogant manner, spoke poorly about the spurned woman and claimed to never have promised her to marry her. The council was disgusted by his behaviour and manners, and admiral Raeder decided that he was too dishonorable to become an officer in the Weimar Republic Navy. He was dismissed from the Navy, his life plans in ruin.
He later met Himmler through his wife and became one of the organizers of the Holocaust and was involved with many other criminal organizations during the Third Reich.
So a nameless woman's naivete and the fallout of her lewd conduct led a man down the path of crime and infamy and led to the suffering of millions.
>>2912616
>>2912071
>>2910249
This is a bit off thread topic, but quintessentially, what is the point of geisha? They weren't high end prostitutes/escorts necessarily, they weren't necessarily dancers or singers though they could do that. Did they also basically function as models you could also pay to hang out with you?
>>2913839
They're like a very refined entertainer and performer, they kinda function as all the things you listed though not officially as for prostitute and escort
>>2913839
>Did they also basically function as models you could also pay to hang out with you?
Yes. They were entertainers. Hired company. They would conversate with the client, drink with them, perform dances, play instruments and play games.
>>2913877
So like host clubs in Japan today a.k.a paying to be blue balled(a concept I still don't really understand), only they were actually skilled in the performing arts?
>>2913892
Yep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15OIrWo_Hsw
>>2913892
To get into Japanese mentality, the closest modern thing to it is a maid cafe or a and idol group, in which the girl are meant to be both entertainer and performer, sometimes also have to be seducing but never too lewd like its western counterpart since the Japanese like the looks of purity
>>2913918
>Japanese like the look of purity
I don't know if this is true of most Japanese let alone all of them but I can see what you mean. I don't think I will ever really understand it but yeah, basically cute girls going cute things.
>>2913915
So pay to have people play drinking games with you and sing /dance. Then pay a separate girl(courtesan) to fuck( in most cases). I guess.
>>2909833
>>2908254
Just kidding I had one more.
Let's post clothing normal people would wear.
>>2913814
>Anime sauce?
Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu
>>2913997
>>2913918
Jesus this is a great comparison. I've been twice to Japan and those maids, idols and other semen demons really are interesting. Sometimes makes you uncomfortable, since they all look like they're 15
Which is more aesthetic? The colourful clothing and makeup of the Geisha, or the usually bicolour, simpler Miko appearence?
>>2914045
pics for immediate comparison please. Can't think off the top of my head.
I find Maiko's adorable though.
>>2913974
This is form the Ottoman Empire, particularly Algeria I believe. Not sure of the time though.
>>2914081
I believe France already had Algeria as a colony when Bouguereau painted this, so probably (not sure at all tho). The style of the architecture and the clothes looks more like Maghreb than the Ottoman Empire
>>2914066
Miko.
>>2914127
Right those are miko but anon was asking more about geishas and maikos (even tho Miko >>>> those cited before)
Geisha, Miko is not even originally designed to be attractive anyway
>>2914165
Yeah of course female priests aren't supposed to look like whores, it is just the general simple attire with the red-white contrasting combination that I think is aesthetic
>>2910145
Yeah, its one of my favorite hats for women. Here's another example from a tv show.
These threads have been a gold mine of artistic references for things I will never get around to drawing.
>>2909583
They were topless in the previous Cycladic culture
Dude why are weebs taking over the thread with shitty bathrobes?
18th century is best century
>>2914952
When + where is this from
It looks like the modern stereotypical visualization of 19th - early 20th century British people, especially that fucking face of the guy with the tea cup
>>2916489
>A group of Danish artists in Rome, 1837. Frock coats, fly-front trousers (some with straps under the instep), tall hats, and dark cravats are characteristic of the period.
>>2916899
>>2916900
>>2916902
Check out this Indian fashion slide throughout history.
https://www.slideshare.net/PriyalThakkar/fashion-history-of-india-56599569
>>2914081
That looks Egyptian, pic related is Ottoman
>>2917012
>>2917019
>>2917032
>>2905759
Anatolians are basically persianized Greeks/Turks and Turks of central Asia are turkified persians
But Anatolian dresses are basically Persian in style like many ottoman things. High court dresses in the harem seem Greek to me though
>>2914952
>tfw you will never do the Grand Tour with your bros, discovering Europe's classical roots while partying and fucking wenches all the way
>>2916218
Fuck off. There was Chinese and Middle Eastern fashion too. Most European fashion was lame past the middle ages (excluding 18th century).
20th century(particularly 1920s) is the only other great time.
>>2916887
Was she a real person? There are so many myths and speculations about her existence. Did they even truly have female samurai?
>>2917989
Well, some women from samurai families were trained to handle weapons as part of their education, and sometimes these women were forced in situations where they had to actually fight (last stand, raid while all the men were away, etc). Peasant women forming impromptu militias to defend their homes from attacks while the men were away doesn't seem too far fetched either.
In that sense, in very specific situations, there were female warriors. Some that came from samurai families.
However, as far as I know, the only example of an "actual" female samurai actually going on a battlefield (the woman you are referring to) is very, very probably a myth.Though we also have one historical example, coming from the Boshin war, though it fits more in the last stand archetype (a few women from a pro-Shogunate clan decided to fight, did it against their families wishes, went to war with naginatas, got wiped out at the first engagement).
Off topic but what else do females in the general history / humanities fields like to talk about and how do I talk to them?
>>2918411
Same things guys like to talk about.
>>2908902
The knowledge to make them wasn't lost, people just weren't allowed to wear them. I've heard that even some Qing emperors wore them in private sometimes, but just never bother to lift the ban for everyone else.
>>2918411
I'm a femanon but I can only speak for myself. I like big historical figures and interesting day to day aspects of life. It's why I love manga like Otoyomegatari, it shows a lot of every day things. I like knowing about mythology too, I've read a ton on Nordic and Aztec myths. Greek myths are overrated tho.
>>2918595
Not wearing the queue was definitely punishable by death, but I don't think the restrictions extended to clothes as well. My perception is that the Qing fashion of officials just trickled down to everyone else due to its prestige. I might be wrong though.
>>2918634
A lot of females don't really seem to be interested in big historical figures/military/philosophy in history. They mostly seem to swarm around social and cultural history.
>tfw classical East Asian fashion is ridiculously superior to anything that has ever existed
I normally don't say SJW stuff, but fuck white people for having such shit fashion and inadvertently destroying the most beautiful cultures in the world.
>>2918634
>I'm a femanon
>Greek myths are overrated
Get out
>>2916844
>>2918664
Not true. It is possible to be interested in both, anon. You know, like most of the men in this thread clearly are?
>>2919019
It's true in some cases but I'm talking about general trends (for the portion of the population that even cares about history in the first place).
>>2908859
I'm rather fond the qipao personally. I'm sad China and to a lesser extent Korea didn't carry on wearing their own clothing as an alternative to the Western jeans-and-shirt/business-suit standard like Japan does.
>all these beautiful Chinese women in this thread
>tfw they all had mutilated feet
Im gonna start rocking a chiton this summer. Probably get some purple fabric. Useful For the beach
>>2919122
Not all of them, the practice took off only since the Song Dynasty.
>>2919107
Qipao is okay, but for me Hanfu is much more aesthetic. Especially if you're talking about the westernized version that makes the wearer look like a cocktail waitress.
For a change of pace, pic related is an Korean actress wearing Hanbok.
>>2919130
You'll get the weirdest looks, and maybe a heckle, but I have to admit, it looks comfortable as fuck, especially if it's scorching hot outside.
>>2919162
Well its not that far off from male rompers. Plus I live in socal so this kind of thing isnt. Too weird. I look good enough to pull it off. Well at least I think so not sure what other people would say
>>2919130
brace for somebody taking you for a tranny and trying to fuck and / or beat you to death.
>>2919221
Nah I couldnt be mistaken for a tranny im all good
>>2919075
There are plenty of women who care about history, anon lol. It's one of the humanities women like to major in. My history teacher in high school was obsessed with European history, all parts from wars to culture.
Stop thinking about "general trends" as it won't serve you well, especially if you're talking to girls online vs. real life anyway.History is history.
btw. More Persian in pic related.
>>2919241
I was talking about the types of lenses/perspectives different kinds of people tend towards, not about interest towards history as a whole. A large number of boys like my own brother have an interest in history because of war and generals and call social/cultural stuff a bore. I can't imagine it this line of thought being significantly present for girls.
>>2919281
Well if you're going to harp on what's more likely to be a favorite, perhaps politics and culture. But again, history is history and it's unlikely the girls won't also be interested in wars especially since politics and war are heavily associated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpgB-e8iIlE
Kagura.
>>2917019
So what exactly is going on here? Is this guy's current wife helping him choose another wife?
kek
>>2919359
Is this some type of spiritual dance from the Heian period? We're posting fashion here, not really dance and other aspects of culture.
>>2917978
You wot mate?
Did you exclude the 18th century because it has no comparison?
>>2919141
>Especially if you're talking about the westernized version that makes the wearer look like a cocktail waitress.
You mean something like this? Yeah, it's pretty wretched. And again, I feel like if China had stuck to its guns about certain cooler aspects of its culture, costumes like this wouldn't even exist. Because today that's what qipaos (and hanfu too, despite the brave efforts of historical fashion enthusiasts) are: they're not clothes any more, they're costumes. And it makes me sad that a Japanese can walk into a 7/11 in Tokyo to buy a pack of smokes and a doujinshi wearing a hakama without anyone batting an eye, but a Chinese couldn't do the same in Beijing or Shanghai without someone asking them if they're putting on a street performance or if they're an extra in a historical TV drama.
>>2919522
The LATE 18th century yes. Mainly because I like the dresses and hats worn by women( mostly English). I think the most of the men's dress looks lame,especially French. Prefer Medieval and Renaissance men's fashion or 1920s.
>>2901228
MADAGASCAR
G
A
S
Y
>>2901228
Iran 60s-70s
>>2920016
Looks so uncomfortable. I'd hate to have to wear that sort of dress. You'd overheat.
>>2923361
Actually you'd be cooler. The large amount of open space underneath the crinoline allows for air to circulate easier.
>>2919797
When did monarchs ever actually dress like this besides pictures?
>>2921360
Look at thier worn boots.
They muts have been dirt poor!
More Roman republic. Matrons.
Barong aesthetics
>>2928401
>Barong
is it time to start posting SEA fashion?
Any of you /his/torical fashion enthusiasts know how to track down this book?
>>2929989
Shit is cash. Wore this to the beach.
>>2931417
Any reactions?
>>2931417
>this is what greek boys looked like
>>2931982
Nobody has really said anything. A few looks here and there.
>>2932000
My mother was swedish and dad was greek so sadly I dont look greek. Its mainly my nose
Threads like this are why I keep coming back to this place
>>2932051
>>2932054
>>2932057
>>2932061
>>2932062
>>2932064
>>2932066
Image limit reached, should we start a new thread?
>>2932173
OP here,
Sure, why not?
>>2932256
Wait, how do I cross link again? Do I just put ">>" in front of the thread number?
>>2932310
just make the new thread, then copy the number for this thread and paste it in the new one when you make it.