Ancient Egyptians had European DNA

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>>2886421
Woah, it's almost as if northern africans are more related to other Mediterraneans rather than to populations separated by thousands of miles of inhospitable desert.

>>2886421
They didn't. Also, stop making threads about this, just use the existing ones.

>>2884228

>>2886692
>thousands of miles of desert
Sudan borders Egypt, and their ethnic groups overlap.

>>2886421
HOL UP
*watches fox news*
SO WHAT YOU BE SAYIN IS
*spreads mayonnaise*
WHAT YOU TRYNA SAY BE
*begs parents to buy car*
AYYYOOOOO
*listens to K-Pop*
AYO HOL UP
*eats sushi*
YOU BE SAYIN LIKE
*dates asian girl*
WE WUZ
*whine about jews on the internet*
KANGZ N SHIIIIIIEEET?

>>2886421
WE

Oi, did I understood you well ? Are you telling me that we, as a people, were rulers of noble extraction once upon a very long time ago and whatnot ?

>>2886421
Levantin Neolithic isn't Europe.

If you consider that DNA "European" why do you poltards complain about Syrian refugees?

They're all Europeans too according to your standards!

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>>2887975
K E K
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>>2888081
>If you consider that DNA "European" why do you poltards complain about Syrian refugees?
Middle Easterners are white when it's beneficial to their agenda, but subhuman shitskins when it isn't. Don't you know how /pol/ and their special brand of doublethink works yet?

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>>2886421
Even ancient egyptian were white
God fucking damn it feels good.

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>>2888081
>If you consider that DNA "European" why do you poltards complain about Syrian refugees?

We also complain about Polish immigrants.
Not everyone is a globalist. Is this hard to understand?

>>2889271
Did you even read the article? It said the ancient Egyptians are basically Levantines.

>>2889792
>>2888081

Poles aren't white.

>>2888081
>>2888715
I'm Syrian with 47% European ancestry according to 23andMe. Parents came from Halab (Aleppo)

>>2888081
modern syrians are considerably more Arabicized than syrians from 2000+ years ago mate.

>>2888715
I think they just don't like those who explote and are burka burka.
After all /pol / loves syria and assad

>>2888715
Nice strawman. A minority of Near Easterners are White and many aren't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that perhaps putting all Syrians under one label doesn't make sense.

>>2889828
Poles are just a step forward from toasters

>>2886421

If anybody wants to read a good detailed blog post explaining this, look at this by Razib Khan

https://gnxp.nofe.me/2017/05/30/ancient-egyptians-black-or-white/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RazibKhansTotalFeed+%28Razib+Khan%27s+total+feed%29

Ancient egyptians were most similar to middle easterners of their time, and are most similar to modern Sardinians, the population closer to neolithic farmers.

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>>2886626


Keep dreaming.

>>2891124
"What you can see here is that to a great extent ancient Egyptians were descended from a population closely related to Natufians, or Natufians themselves. This easily explains the mtDNA affinity to Neolithic farmers: Natufians and Anatolian Neolithic populations were sister populations. The f3 statistic which looks at shared drift shows an affinity of ancient Egyptians with ancient farmer populations with Near Eastern provenance, but also with modern Sardinians. This is a common pattern, as ancient groups do not have later migration waves, with the Sardinians the modern population closest to this......
If you plot the genetic variation of ancient Egyptians they’re closest to Neolithic eastern Mediterranean populations. No great surprise.
Not the modern Egyptians. Why? It’s pretty clearly because modern Egyptians are shifted toward Sub-Saharan Africans. But there is also another component: modern Egyptians have more of the cyan eastern farmer component. What could this be?
An immediate thought comes to mind. We focus a great deal on Sub-Saharan African slavery. One reason is that it is visible. Black Africans are physically distinct from most Middle Eastern populations. But Egypt was long the center of another slave trade: “white slaves” from the Caucasus. Circassians. For hundreds of years Mamluks were recruited from the Caucasus as military slaves. They eventually became the ruling class of Egypt, until their decimation in the 19th century under Muhammad Ali (who himself was an Albanian Ottoman who never learned to speak Arabic well).
As noted in the paper earlier work looking at patterns in ancestry tracts and LD decay had made it obvious that much of the admixture of Sub-Saharan ancestry in Egypt, as in much of the Middle East, is relatively recent. In particular, it dates to the Islamic period, when trade and conquest took on new dimensions in Africa and north into Central Asia....

WHAT EVEN IS "EUROPEAN DNA"?

THESE PSEUDOSCIENTIFIC ARTICLES MADE TO INCITE RACISM, AND ETHNIC STRIFE, ARE GETTING EVER MORE RIDICULOUS AND ABSURD.

>>2886692

Pretty sure the Ptolemaic Kingdom helped later on as well.

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>>2888081
>why do you poltards complain about Syrian refugees?

>black people from subsaharan africa are syrians now

>>2891073
You have the redditors who are fervently proTrump and then you have /SG/ which is overwhelmingly proAssad. The general feeling of the board is hard to gauge though.

>>2886421
Middle East is white now

>>2888081
Slave are "white"as well. Syrians are a problem because of Islam.

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>>2886421
They didn't have SSA.

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>>2892871

no they didn't
they had MODERN leventine dna
which is middle eastern, not ,European.

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>>2886421
But Egypt had many non Egyptian pharaohs from 1600BCE, because that was when they were got conquered for the first time and never really regained controll and 1400BCE - 400 AD falls in this timespan.
BTW it is an incredibly long timespan that even encompasses the Greek, Roman and Persian rule over Egypt ffs.

So it does not prove shit that we did not already knew. Anyway here are the foreigners that have ruled Egypt (all, but the Nubians are middle eastern and european so it's just rewording data that is irrelevant to the discussion about hwoi the ancient Egyptians (10.000BCE - 2000BCE) were.

The Hyksos took over much of Lower Egypt around 1650 BC (100 years)
The Libyans and the Sea peoples who were "a powerful confederation of largely Greek, Luwian and Phoenician/Caananite pirates from the Aegean" and the Assyrians (1235BCE untill the Priests of the Amun temple regained control).
The Nubians (800BCE - 671BCE)
The Assyrians (671BCE - 627BCE)
The Persians (343BCE - 320BCE)
Then Ptolemaics* (320BCE - 30BCE) (were Greeks)
The Romans (30BCE - 619AD)
The Persians (619AD - 639AD)
The Arabs (639AD - 1250AD)
The Mamluks (1250AD - 1517AD)
The Ottomans (1517AD - 1798AD)
The French (1798AD - 1805AD)
The Albanians (1805AD - 1952AD)
Democracy (1953AD - present)

>>2893999
> the Assyrians (1235BCE)

The fuck am I reading?

>>2894027
Assyria was a major Mesopotamian East Semitic-speaking kingdom and empire of the ancient Near East and the Levant. It existed as a state from perhaps as early as the 25th century BC in the form of the Assur city-state,[1] until its lapse between 612 BC and 599 BC, spanning the Early to Middle Bronze Age through to the late Iron Age.

>>2894050
I know it existed, what I'm saying is that it didn't conquer Egypt in 1253 bc, I have no idea where you got that from.

>>2894065
You're right. I can't find it anywhere either.
I compiled this list by using Wikipedia, could even be a editing mistake. I don't know, but the rest of the list should be correct and also proves that OP's post is nothing we did not already knew about the pharaohs from 1400BCE-400BCE

>>2894065
I'm still looking for mummies with Caucasian features older than the Hyksos invasion, but it seems like those don't exist.

>>2894108
During 1253 bc Egypt underwent a period of great prosperity under pharaoh Ramses II, they went to war against the Hittities and pushed them back, Assyrians didn't went to war against them at all during that time, Egypt even had control of much of the Levant back then, they were one of the major military pwoers in the Near East in the Late bronze age.

Only around two centuries later they got conquered by a Lybian dynasty,

Sea peoples tried to attack them multiple times but failed and settled in the the part of the Levant ruiled by Egyptians, but not in Egypt proper, also the Egyptian pharaoh gave some lands to foreign mercenaries known as "Sherden", but they certainly didn't conquer Egypt, they were mercenaries.

>>2894142
Didn't the Sea people work for the Libyans?

>>2893999
Egypt was under Persian thumb since Cambyses for the Achaemenids.

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>>2886692
>And God saw it fit to seperate the Africans

if egyptians were had white lookin skin.........plaese tell me the sunscreen brand they used

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>>2896143
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/05/30/dna-from-ancient-egyptian-mummies-reveals-their-ancestry/?utm_term=.d8cceca6e8bc

>1300BCE
>Ancient Egyptians

Pick one

The article says:
"This study left two gaps in the Egyptian timeline that Krause wants to fill, he said. It is not clear when the African gene flow, present in modern Egyptians, occurred. Nor could the study determine the origin of the Egyptians. “The other big question is, 'Where did the ancient Egyptians come from?' ” Krause said. To answer that, scientists will have to find genomes “back further in time, in prehistory.”

>>2886421
I thought this was pretty much common knowledge. Do you idiots seriously believed that the pyramids could be build by fucking niggers? Or the fact that niggers would have any culture at all?

The study says that they were 6-15% 'black' (and more likely the higher number) and that the rest of their DNA clustered very closely with Bedouins and Levantines. Since when is that 'white'?

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>>2896154
The same suncreen brand Romans and Greeks used.

Also are you implying they did not get skin cancer? Sauce?

>>2886696
Found the nigger

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>>2887975

Well meme'd, good sir.

>>2886421
>a thread about Greeks LARPing as Egyptians

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>>2886692

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>>2896173
Baseless conjecture.
There at least were Sub Saharan African in Southern Egypt capable of aligning their structures with the stars at least a 1000 years before people started to build Stonehenge.
We see this technique back in the pyramids, so at least that points to their influence.
But what is there in Egypt that we also find in the Middle-East, things they could have contributed?
Only religion.
It even took 500 plus years for the invention of the middle eastern chariot to reach Egypt and there is no data of Egypt actually trading with the medittereanians.
We do have osteological data done by medal winning aercheologist Fred Wendorff that suggest that the people of the Nabta Playa (8000 - ? BCE) were of Sub Saharan origin.

There is no doubt that Middle Easterners have settled in Egypt before it was a kingdom, a couple hundred miles north from the Nabta Playa.
However, we do not know what happened to both.

>>2896206
No.

>>2896219

No what?

>>2896181
>samefagging

Low-tier as fuck. White people don't really speak like that. /leftypol/ faggots literally can't make a meme of their own.

>>2896194
>a nigger larping as an egyptian

kek

>>2896194
Greeks literally ruled over Egypt while niggers did the same shit they always did - play with sticks and stones in mud.

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>>2896222
No to you trying to color Egypt into various shades of black.

Just move on, claim Carthage as a black African civilization, it will take decades until they do the same sorts of genetic research there.

It can be yours.

>>2896165
>>1300BCE
>>Ancient Egyptians
>Pick one
Nah, I'll pick both.

>It is not clear when the African gene flow, present in modern Egyptians
After 1300BC, clearly.

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>>2896244
They actually did. The closest people DNA wise to the Carthaginians/Phoenicians are the Lebanese. So niggers can't even claim that. Maybe they should try claiming China or something.

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The fact that the ancient Egyptians themselves say they're origins are in the South, no no let's just forget that. Never mind the fact that they literally viewed the world upside down, meaning they saw the Levant as South and SSA as North. Never mind the flow of the Nile and the fact that no civilization has ever developed against the flow of a river.

I just find it ironic that people here are quick to bitch and moan about afrocentrist revisionism, but then have the nerve to post complete nonsense like op, and be completely fine with it.

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>>2896253
Asia is ripe for conquest.

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>>2896252
Ok, you pick the Egypt from 1300BCE - 400AD as being ancient and i pick the Egypt from 10.000BCE to 2000BCE as being ancient

>>2896260
mythology > science?

I guess as a Nord, I hail from Troy.

muh myths says so.

WE

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>>2896268
Sorry, forgot about the millions upon millions of migrating Europeans and Middle Easterns moving into Egypt, breeding the previous black and proud population into complete oblivion by 1300BCE

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>>2896277
Egypt was invaded many times, because they NEVEr walled their cities, a practice they would have done had they were Middle Eastern as it was a common practice there.
Now imagine what a raid would look like in an unwalled territory.
And now look at a list of raiders and people who have actually occupied Egypt, most likely trough war (which decimates a population) and not by democratic means.

The Hyksos took over much of Lower Egypt around 1650 BC (100 years)
The Libyans and the Sea peoples who were "a powerful confederation of largely Greek, Luwian and Phoenician/Caananite pirates from the Aegean" and the Assyrians (1235BCE untill the Priests of the Amun temple regained control).
The Nubians (800BCE - 671BCE)
The Assyrians (671BCE - 627BCE)
The Persians (343BCE - 320BCE)
Then Ptolemaics* (320BCE - 30BCE) (were Greeks)
The Romans (30BCE - 619AD)
The Persians (619AD - 639AD)
The Arabs (639AD - 1250AD)
The Mamluks (1250AD - 1517AD)
The Ottomans (1517AD - 1798AD)
The French (1798AD - 1805AD)
The Albanians (1805AD - 1952AD)

It wouldn't be easy to maintain the exact same population when you're slaughtered, occupied and your land getting replaced by foreigners.
Just look at the Native Americans.
If we'd have no data rgearding American history and we'd perform DNA tests on 50.000 random Americans, they European genome would be the most prevailent, meaning that cucks like you would say that it means that America was always inhabitet by the Europeans and i would have say that we need samples that are faaar older.
Same discussion different time.

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>>2889803
>Levantines
So...white?
>king of Jordan

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>>2896312
"In a study published May 30 in the journal Nature Communications, scientists looked at DNA from 151 mummified Egyptians, which were entombed from about 1400 B.C. to just after 400 A.D"

Could be any one of these people mentioned here >>2896309

That's the problem and the researchers do not deny it:

"This study left two gaps in the Egyptian timeline that Krause wants to fill, he said. It is not clear when the African gene flow, present in modern Egyptians, occurred. Nor could the study determine the origin of the Egyptians. “The other big question is, 'Where did the ancient Egyptians come from?' ” Krause said. To answer that, scientists will have to find genomes “back further in time, in prehistory.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/05/30/dna-from-ancient-egyptian-mummies-reveals-their-ancestry/?utm_term=.4ca8ed5db7f7

stay salty

>>2896333
Egypt was conquered by Nubia (basically the niggers) for some time.

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>>2896334
>their flipping neighbours of less within an a relatively close distance
ftfy

>>2896338
I'm a writer, sue me
Also, couldn't find anything useful to say to contribute to the discussion, girl?

>>2896350
their flipping neighbours of less than 100 miles so within reasonable distance
>>2896334

>>2886421
black people aren't smart enough to run a civilization, news at 11.
sorry Jesus, I tried.

>>2896253
Carthaginians were not Phoenicians. There were some colonists, but most of the Carthaginian empire's population should have just been natives of whatever land they were in (Iberia, Numidia, modern-day Tunisia, etc.). I remember seeing a graph where Tunisia for example displayed very little sign of Middle Eastern ancestry, even less SSA ancestry, and like 90%+ native North African ancestry.

>>2896350
>>2896357
What's your point? They weren't Egyptians, they were different people.

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>>2896309
>>2896333
>Now imagine what a raid would look like in an unwalled territory.
It wouldn't look like a population exchange.

That is a marvelous list you've compiled but since nothing implies that the majority or even a sizeable minority of those people started copying the Egyptians in the ways of mummification of their own. It's a cute list though.

>Just look at the Native Americans.
invalid comparison, continental differences in disease resistance killed the Native Americans.

>That's the problem and the researchers do not deny it
Not in the way you're implying though. Post 400AD would be the natural guess.

>>2896333
>Could be any one of these people mentioned here >>2896309
Why would non-Egyptians engage in the Egyptian practice of mummification?

>>2896224
It was legitimately funny. He kind of hit a certain group of white dudes on 4chan right on the head.

What the fuck is """""""""White"""""""""" anyway

>>2896358
Neil DeGrasse Tyson (served on the Commission on the Future of the United States Aerospace Industry and in 2004 served on the President's Commission on Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy, the latter better known as the "Moon, Mars, and Beyond" commission. Soon afterward, he was awarded the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal, the highest civilian honor bestowed by NASA) and Katherine Coleman Goble Johnson (an African-American physicist and mathematician who made contributions to the United States' aeronautics and space programs with the early application of digital electronic computers at NASA. Known for accuracy in computerized celestial navigation, she conducted technical work at NASA that spanned decades. During this time, she calculated the trajectories, launch windows, and emergency back-up return paths for many flights from Project Mercury, including the early NASA missions of John Glenn and Alan Shepard, and the 1969 Apollo 11 flight to the Moon, through the Space Shuttle program.[1][2][3] Her calculations were critical to the success of these missions.[1] Johnson also performed calculations for the plans for a mission to Mars.From 1953 through 1958, Johnson worked as a "computer,"[16] analyzing topics such as gust alleviation for aircraft. NACA disbanded the colored computing pool in 1958 when it was superseded by NASA, which adopted digital computers.)

There are many more people like her, but it took her untill 2015 to reveive recognition for the work she did even though she resigned from Nasa in the early 80's.

Many more stories of black people like this are going unnoticed.

Also, are you implying that all white people have above average intelligence?
There are more people below the average than above

>>2896407
Are you suggesting that she was the only woman capable of that? Because she wasn't. Literally millions of geniuses (99th percentile IQs) go unnoticed all the time.

>>2896402
Caucasian peoples native to the European continent.

Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

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>>2896365
Look at the distance between Belgium and Russia.
All white people.
Look at the distance between Lower Egypt and Nubia.
I currently can't name a country that has a neigbour who has a population with an ethnicity completely opposite of theirs.

>>2896422
South America and USA.

Dark Mexicans vs. White Europeans

Russia vs china

Asiatics vs whites

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>>2896373
>It wouldn't look like a population exchange.
but since nothing implies that the majority or even a sizeable minority of those people started copying the Egyptians in the ways of mummification of their

Subdue army, have own army settle, mate with locals, send regents.
Also, the foreign powers ruled as pharaohs, we see this at the very least with the Ptolemaics.
The Egyptians also believed that since the phsraoh was appointed by god that their defeat meant that the gods wanted a new pharaoh, so they were very compliant after being defeated.
The egyptian religion was even kept alive the whole time while being under occupation, the only time their rleigion changed was with Akhenaten and that should say a lot, seeing as how religion was like the blood in the veins of Egypt.

>invalid comparison, continental differences in disease resistance killed the Native Americans.

A part of the population, yes.
Then there's also war, biological warfare, destroying their agriculture by letting lose pigs than turned intio wild boars that went on a rampage on the land and destroyed their crops.
No, the illness you're referring to sums up to a 40% max of over 140 million people

>Not in the way you're implying though. Post 400AD would be the natural guess.

Not sure what you meant here, why would 400AD be a natural guess?.
if the researchers thought that the ancient Egyptians were Middle Easterners or Medditerranians they wouldn't have said that they need older data to determine the ethnicity of the -ancient Egyptians-.

We need samples of Egyptians between 8000 and 2000BCE, proto and pre-dynastic, early kingdom etc and not samples from a time in which Egyptian royalty has already been corrupted by foreign influence (occuation of the throne).

So no, my points stand.

In Egyptian art the Egyptians used royal red for their men and gold/yellow for their women.
These were symbolic colors.
The colors they used for their own have not been used for others

>>2896415
The poster said that black people aren't smart, so i posted 2, out of the many smart, black people

>>2896324
he is an anglo rape baby of course he is white

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>>2896422
>in the northern most portion of Italy the Italic peoples had some similarities in terms of looks to the Gauls
>therefore GAULS WUZ ROMANS AND SHIEET

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>>2896458
>South America and USA.
Aren't countries and we couldn't have spoken about people with people genetics prior to the arrival of the Europeans.
The Eskimos to all the way down to Macchu Piccu are nearly identical people.
you're speaking about a USA that has been colonized by white and black people for over 400 years in which the native population has been reduced to less than a percentage of the population.
Did you know that less than 1% of the entire Southern American population in 2007 could identify as full blooded Native American?
Just a fyi

>Dark Mexicans vs. White Europeans
Race mixing Natives - Spanjards - Portugese - Europeans

>Russia vs China
Mongolia Kazachstan
Who was Genghis Khan?

>Asiatics vs whites
How is this a country again?

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>>2896476
>they wouldn't have said that they need older data to determine the ethnicity of the -ancient Egyptians-
They want to determine where they came from.

>No, the illness you're referring to sums up to a 40% max of over 140 million people
Try 90%

Anyway, it has become clear i'm talking to a idealogue who does nothing but lie in order to avoid the truth.

Face it, the Egyptians weren't black. The Egyptians themselves did not think so, nor does the genetic research.

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>>2896490
You do know that we were referring to skincolor and not haircolor?

>>2896519
>Try 90%

Try citing sources

>The Egyptians themselves did not think so, nor does the genetic research

They didn't tought they were Middle Eastern Mediterranean so thanks for bringing this conversation back full circle.

>>2896521
>You do know that we were referring to skincolor and not haircolor?
Why? Differences in haircolor is not any indication of anything?

Also you think there is no differences in skincolor between the mediterranean peoples and central/northern Europeans?

why u hef to be so stupid

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>>2896539>>2896458

>I currently can't name a country that has a neigbour who has a population with an ethnicity completely opposite of theirs.

Nubians - Middle Eastern / Mediterranean

Opposite

Gauls - Romans

Not opposite.
However i admit that i wrote ethnicity instead of skincolor which was what i initially meant.

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>>2896531
>Try citing sources
try google
>They didn't tought they were Middle Eastern Mediterranean so thanks for bringing this conversation back full circle.
No shit, they thought themselves as their own mediterranean people.

And now we have the genetic research to back it up.

Now we have geography, contemporary depictions/descriptions and genetic research indicating they were infact not black africans.

When will you move on and just claim another civilization? Is the problem that you've already tattooed an ankh on your body or what is it?

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>>2896563
" Most scholars writing at the end of the 19th century estimated that the pre-Columbian population was as low as 10 million; by the end of the 20th century most scholars gravitated to a middle estimate of around 50 million, with some historians arguing for an estimate of 100 million or more"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

This article mentions a 90% toll too, but without specific numbers for the deceased.
So if the numbers are right, but the population was 50 million my 40% would be correct, the percentage would be even lower if they had a population of 100 million or bigger (as i suggested with my 140 million).

>No shit, they thought themselves as their own mediterranean people.and we have proof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabta_Playa#Early_history

"Analysis of human remains by Fred Wendorf and reported in "Holocene Settlement of the Egyptian Sahara", based on osteological data suggests a subsaharan origin for the site's inhabitants.[4]} Several scholars also support a Nilo-Saharan linguistic affinity for the Nabta people; including Fred Wendorf and Christopher Ehret"

These are some the oldest remains we have found between 8000BCE and at least 4800BCE (the date their calendar stopped).

The only necessary remains we need are those prior to the Hyksos invasion (1600BCE).
And show me were the Egytians believed themselves to be Medditeranean show a source and the age in which the event you described happened, so we can drtemrine that this wasn't under the Ptolemaic (Greek) dynasty, because then it would be obvious that they leaned towards the culture of their rulers.

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>>2896563
Mediterraneans and Middle Easterners are LARP'ing as Egyptians
The wish they were Egyptians due to the contributions the country has made to science and philosophy

Modern philosophy is a Greek invention, but normal philosophy was already present in ancient Egypt.
Thales of Miletus (c. 624 – c. 546 BC) was a pre-Socratic Greek/Phoenician philosopher, mathematician and astronomer and one of the Seven Sages of Greece.
Many, most notably Aristotle, regard him as the first philosopher in the Greek tradition, and he is otherwise historically recognized as the first individual in Western civilization known to have entertained and engaged in scientific philosophy.
The story is told in DL (loc. cit.) that he measured the height of the pyramids by their shadows at the moment when his own shadow was equal to his height.
He measured it in the Seked, which is an ancient Egyptian unit of measure for the inclination of the triangular faces of a right pyramid
Thales received instruction from an Egyptian priest, which was common for the rich, they were also the ones with the money to study in Egypt.
It was fairly certain that he came from a wealthy, established family, in a class which customarily provided higher education for their children.
Moreover, the ordinary citizen, unless he was a seafaring man or a merchant, could not afford the grand tour in Egypt.
Other Greek sages about who it has been said that they have studied philosophy and mathematics in Egypt are Solon of Athens and Cleobulus of Lindos.
It has been said Plato and Pythagoras have studied in Egypt as well.

So modern philosophy originated in Greece, but to learn philosophy one had to study in Egypt.

>>2896253
This honestly Asians don't really give a fuck because they're smart enough to let some niggers act like they have some civilization because at the very least Asians have homelands

>>2896260
Retard

>>2896261
Is this real? why is the media in all forms so willing to spread lies when the majority sees media as bullshit like can they fucking try a little harder

>>2896407
This isn't buzzfeed go write this on Twitter so you'll get patted on the head points this shit doesent belong here or just go on /pol/ to bait 14 year olds.

>>2896754
Its actually real. Not even joking

>>2891124
They have higher values in the f3(Mbuti; X, Egyptian) statistic (also Basques, North Italians, Greeks, Central Italians, North Spaniards i.e. European populations with high farmer ancestry - but not South Italians for some reason).

This is obviously significantly lowered in the modern Middle East due to higher sub-Saharan (i.e. what's represented by Mbuti) ancestry, though the ancient ones might to have some too, just of the East African variety.

What we can say for the time being, though we need more samples, is that later ancient Lower Egypt seems to have been closely related to the Levant since the late Mesolithic. On the other hand, genetic relationships with even Eastern Africa seem to have been existent but minimal.

As Razib mentions, Copts have this Eastern African ancestry but lack the Western African ancestry that Muslim Egyptians have. They weren't tested there and the data isn't out yet for anyone to test them but they seem like good representatives of these ancient Egyptian samples despite living mostly in Upper Egypt.

So my guess is that whatever scenario one envisions Egypt had acquired its 'Coptic' character by the 8th-6th centur BC. I somewhat doubt it was every significantly pre-Levantine Neolithic East African but we need more data.

>>2896553
>Arabs - Nubians, Ethiopians
>Turks-Chinese
>India-China/Tibet,Thailand,Vietnam
>Indians-Persians

Is that enough?

>>2896309
>Assyrians
>invading Egypt in 1253 bc

Stop posting

>>2894199
They were their allies

>>2886421
Hello0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0oooo poltards!


They have analayzed a Northen aprt of Egypt AFTER the Semitic Hyksos had invaded Egypt!

Try to do such a test on old kingdom mummies and they will tell a different story, oooh but you're too scared aren't you?

>>2896908
Copt christians ancient >>/OUT/

>>2896970
Are all Indians darkskinned?

>>2897028
Which pyramids were created by those ones again?

>>2896253
Why can't they just admit they really don't have much to claim compared to the Europeans, Northern Africans and Asians and start their own thing so that the later Generations look back to them as the ones who made Sub Sahara Africa great

>>2888081
Remember yesterday when 76% of "refugees" children were actually men. Or how about the fact that only 22 of ~800 people identified were actually from syria. Retard.

>africans = syrians

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>>2896625
>>2896640
Bitch, stop being retarded. They were not sub-saharian blacks, and did not considered themselves to be like them.

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>>2896224
Not really idiot retard polroach

>>2897176
All the pyramids, you retarded fuck, do you even know what old kingdom Egypt is?

>>2897028
>Try to do such a test on old kingdom mummies and they will tell a different story, oooh but you're too scared aren't you?
lel you people are getting really defensive aren't you? The Hyksos dynasty did not survive for very long and they stopped ruling long before these mummies were created.

But anyway, i'm sure even if they had still been the rulers, the researchers would have been clever enough to see a difference between a Hyksos burial and a typical Egyptian burial.

Why don't black Americans just claim claim ancestry from empires like Ghana, Mali and Songhai?

>>2897370
>that ms paint tier editng
kill yourself, SJW

>>2897172
Your point? Are you trying to imply that the Chinese are similiar to Indians?

>>2897657
Because those nations didn't do anything impressive besides throw mud at each other. Blacks can't create civilizations, it's not in their nature, they're intellectually inferior in every way.

>>2897305
By Egyptian authority rewarded medal for his work in his field winner aercheologist Fred Wendorff states that the inhanbitants of Southern Egypt were of Sub Saharn origin

You: THEY WUZ NOT BLACK

>>out

>>2897018
That' probably why i wrote that the Libyans and the Sea peoples worked together, the Assyrians were probably their allies (during that time) too.

>>2893999
>The Arabs (639AD - 1250AD)

Mameluke rule in Egypt goes back to 800s something. Arabs lost control of that area very quickly, then Fatimids and Ayyubids take power briefly.

>The Albanians (1805AD - 1952AD)

It was just an Ottoman of Albanian ancestry, not really any different than many Ottoman sultans themselves which had origins in Balkans.

>>2898095
The point is that you can see different color gradations from india to China.
The explicit line of black Nubia and white Egypt as you are implying is not seen between India and china, because India has many light skinned Indians.
So your point is invalid.
same can be said for entire Asia btw.
There are dark and light skinned Thai and Vietnamese.
So there still aren't two neighbouring countries in which the populations differ as much as you're implying there was between Nubia and Egypt.

Also, Egypt (10.000BCE - 6000BCE) actually was inhabitet by middle easterners, but also by Sub Saharan Africans.
These two groups lived seperately from eachother.
The middle easterners travelled and settled there (somewhere in the middle of Egypt), around 8000BCE.
The people of the Nabta Playa lived south from them in Southern Egypt.
Thry aligned their structures with the stars, as we later see the egyptians do with the pyramids.

These are facts, Egypt was a mixed nation.
I'm not even denying that there were people of non sub-saharan origin in egypt, but the claims made by illinformed and probably right winged posters like you rely on complete data as even the founders of the research done in the article you guys are parading states that they need older mummies.

Rewind the numbers again, various people have settled in Egypt as early as 10.000BCE and you are trying to claim that a mummy of a person who lived 7800 years later should prove who the real Egyptians were?

That's preposturous and you know it.

>>2897305
Are you with that picture implying that the Egyptians (who painted themselves in royal red) never warred agsainst the Nubians?
Or are you making some conjecture that fits your racist agenda?

>>2886421
>read ancient egyptians arguing over each other on found papyros
>one recites how no matter how low an egyptian free man falls short in life, he will still have his pride of being free and egyptian, and not a dirty negroe or a deviant Shemite or a debauched Syrian

It's safe to safe ancient Egyptians were not blonde haired, blue eyed snow niggers but they certainly weren't Congoids either.

WE

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you guys seen this?
http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/26/142448
from the paper
>The Bronze Age Sidon samples (Sidon_BA) overlap with present-day Levantines and were positioned between the ancient Levantines (Natufians/Neolithic) and ancient Iranians (Neolithic/Chalcolithic). The overlap between the Bronze Age and present-day Levantines suggests a degree of genetic continuity in the region. We explored this further by computing the statistic f4(Lebanese, present-day Near Easterner; Sidon_BA, Chimpanzee) using qpDstat 33 (with parameter f4mode: YES) and found Sidon_BA shared more alleles with the Lebanese than with most other present-day Levantines (Figure S6), supporting local population continuity as observed in Sidon’s archaeological records. When we substituted present-day Near Easterners with a panel of 150 present-day populations available in the Human Origins dataset, we found only Sardinians and Italian_North shared significantly more alleles with Sidon_BA compared with the Lebanese (Figure S7).

>When we substituted present-day Near Easterners with a panel of 150 present-day populations available in the Human Origins dataset, we found only Sardinians and Italian_North shared significantly more alleles with Sidon_BA compared with the Lebanese (Figure S7).

>>2898695

Everyone I've met on this planet are Groupthink retards.

>>2898695
Source? Sounds interesting.

>>2888081

People complain about Syrian refugees because they suffer from a sickness of the soul called islam, not because of their genes.

>>2888081
At that point in time, most contemporary Western Europeans certainly didn't live in Western Europe.

>>2892631
But you said it yourself the pro Trump now are redditors not /pol /, assad basically represents the board ideology. Strong dictator, very protective of his country, friendly with christians, fights for his peoples, has a hot wife, kills other muslims, makes Israel mad.
Yeah he is /pol/ hero

>>2896269
>I hail from Troy.
Those are Romans, nords come from snowmans created by santa claus

>>2896640
>unironically thinking egyptians were black
Fuck off.

Reading the replies in these threads always gets me.

>reee fucking /pol/ ruining everything this is their fault not my shitty preconceived notions about how things work
>reeee race isn't real
>reeeeee

Good lord, get a grip you spasticated halfwits.

>>2897839
>this is what losing your marbles looks like

>>2898219
Well, I don't think anyone denies that there were black people in Egypt considering that they bordered Nubia to the South and presumably many Nubians migrated to Egypt. We're arguing if they were a black civilization as a whole, meaning - black majority. Which they were obviously not.

>>2898798
Sardinians are double kangz, then?

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>>2900155
it's that old neolithic link I guess
it's interesting that north Italians are close after while south Italians, which one might expect to be closer, are not
not sure if the authors commented on this, they just reported it in the article