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Why maoist are hated even by tankies?

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And unironical maoist are even a thing?
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Mao rather worked with America then the Soviets because of his autism, also literally an idiot.
mass starvation under Stalin wasn't caused by his idiocy unlike what happend in China.
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>>2881576
>And unironical maoist are even a thing?

oh you poor naive thing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=240RbS8rwHE
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>>2881609
Could explain the joke pls?
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>>2881576
Mao was a idiot supported by youth who fucked themselves in the long term by foregoing education to worship mangoes and the little red book.
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Unironic Maoists are still fighting the Indians and kill hundreds each year

And I'd say in western academia/campus culture, there's still far more unironic Maoists than unironic stalinists
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>>2881576

Maoism is probably the most popular form of communism at this point in history. According to Maoism, only the poor in underdeveloped countries are the real proletariat. So if you're poor in the USA, then no, you're not in proletariat because you live in a reach country and indirectly benefit from American imperialism despite being poor.
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>>2881642
Jason Unruhe, he's the joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jera-t0nNwc
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>>2881690
>I'm the most underdeveloped
>NO I AM
>NOOOOOOO MEMEMEME

oppression olympics desu
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Stalin starved people as a tool to ensure submission to the state. Mao starved people because he was too goddamn stupid to figure out agriculture.
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>>2881716

Basically yeah.

>>2881721

To be fair, Stalin was also pretty shit at agriculture. After all, he allowed Lysenkoism to become a thing.
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>>2881721
Mao was too stupid to figure out basic agriculture and the consequences to wiping out sparrows, and he still beat the KMT. I think that speaks volumes about Chiang Kai Shek.
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>>2881746
Funny, no one has mentioned the KMT yet.
You're not a butthurt Mao apologist, are you?
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>>2881746

Mao is a great example of man who was very a very good military leader but hopeless at civilian leadership, sort of like Ulysses S. Grant if Grant had been a communist instead of an alcoholic.
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>>2881750
No, but 20th century China banter is fun.
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>>2881753
>seize the means of distillation
What did Grant mean by this?
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>>2881576
Mao was a fucking retard who was too egotistic to acknowledge the failure of the Great Leap Forward was his fault and not the fault of local organisers. He also got buttmad when Khrushchev posthumously condemned Stalin and his policies, fearing that the same could happen to himself and felt that Khrushchev's policies weren't Marxist enough to continue the revolution's goal.
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>>2881576
Maoism is pretty big nowadays, especially on college campuses. Decolonization and anti-imperialism are huge memes among social justice types. Certainly much bigger than Marxism-Leninism or Stalinism.
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>>2881702
I watched a few of his videos. Lol.
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>>2881609
>>2881702
>>2881929
https://youtu.be/n1HG9G54szg
Holy shit he's a pol pot apologist
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>>2881576
Ignore the SparrowIDF. Maoism is based.
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>>2881576
Maoists ARE tankies.
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>>2881609
Dumb but the Chinese song is catchy.
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>>2881690
Well if you're poor you only benefit from imperialism on a very superficial level.
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>>2881721
That's an understatement. He intentionally genocided animals in the ecosystem that helped it thrive.
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Because maoism is basically copy and pasting an economic and political system based on an industrialized economy on an agrarian society and saying that it'll work better. Basically it's functionally retarded
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>>2881702
>I also like hypermasculine things. LIKE PUNCHING PEOPLE IN THE FUCKING FACE!
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>>2882052

According to Maoists, that simply doesn't matter. Whereas in most "flavors" of communist ideology, the Proletariat is beleaguered factory workers working in industrialized nations, Maoism has a decidedly more rural bent. The rural peasantry is the proletariat. This was a huge factor in the Sino-Soviet split. Mao was deeply suspicious of the USSR and their factories and cities and urbanization. To him, all the signaled capitalist influence. If you weren't a rural peasant, you couldn't be trusted.
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>>2882117
so reds of a more Chinese flavor think the people cannot into technology?

What absolute degenerates. Maybe they really can't though.
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>>2882192
What's even more hilarious is that if you read Marx, it explicitly says the proletariat are industrial workers and socialism can really only spring from capitalism in an industrial setting, not an agrarian one.
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>>2882254
>socialism can really only spring from capitalism
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>>2882258
Pre-society communism doesn't count faglord
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>>2881761
Underrated post
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>>2882263
>Pre-society communism
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>>2882192

Mao was so anti-factory that he tried to have steel production decentralized into these retarded little furnace things that you'd have in the backyard of you commune or something. People were spending so much time trying to get this dumb idea to work that they couldn't do their actual jobs (which usually meant farming) so food production plummeted. This was one of the major causes of the infamous famine that killed millions of people in China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60_Q-kAZbXA
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>>2881576
>Why maoist are hated even by tankies?

Because, unlike most communist shit holes which were large shot holes before going red, the Chinese Empire was actually kind of a cool, if somewhat backwards, place before Mao went and ruined it.
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>>2882305

And the best part was almost all the metal those furnaces produced was virtually useless.
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>>2881576
>And unironical maoist are even a thing?
I'm pretty sure Diane Abbot is a maoist
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Marxist here.

Modern adherents of various Marxist ideologies dont necessarily have much to do with theoretical particulars. Democratic Socialist in modern america, for example, basically means "youngish social democrat/progressive". So don't worry too much about the details, because they don't actually matter. (Think religious sects.)

All that said, most Maoists get into this idea about third worldism, which sees the planet as basically those in colonizing countries and those being colonized. Some will go so far as to argue that working people in the US and Europe (and Australia and so on, you get the idea) have as much chance of being revolutionary as any wealthy billionaire. Here's a thorough blog post by an honest to goodness tankie who hates Maoists enough to obsessively research them.

https://espressostalinist.com/2016/06/30/lin-biaoism-and-the-third-world-how-idealism-distorts-class/
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>>2883035
It occurs to me this is true of any political ideology, in that it basically boils down to class/race/culture divisions like with religion. If i ask a tea-partier or ancap or neocon is like, you wouldn't answer with their beliefs, but with probably a brief description of what they look like or something.
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>>2881576

Mao might be the worst leader ever in history. This stupid retard killed 20 million of his own people either through a deliberate move which makes him the most evil person ever, or he did it accidentally making him the most retarded/worst leader ever.

I honestly hate Mao LARPers more than I hate stormfags for some reason. You have to be a complete child rebelling against daddy to like him and be a westerner, no matter what your age. Seeing someone whos over the age of like 16 doing so is basically the same as some adult being some sonic obsessed weirdo.
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>>2882724
The late Qing Empire was absolutely terrible and a pathetic freakshow of degeneracy and failure.

15-20% of the population was addicted to opium. And the government worked with foreigners to help provide it after 1870. Essentially, the late Qing Empire was a drug dealer that also was addicted to its product.
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>>2883129

>Gee, I sure hope some middle class retarded faggot who writes shitty poetry and is admired by western cucks doesnt take over my newly established hopeful republic and turns it into a despotic shithole stubbornly dedicated to some dogshit autistic utopian meme
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>>2883035
What happens now that China is colonizing Africa?
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