What's the difference between a Government and a gang?

I was trying to find one, but there is literally none

>>2881432
What's the difference between corporations and the mafia?

Deep thoughtz

>>2881432
What's the difference between the Catholic church and the mafia?

>>2881432
Specify a governmental structure

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What's the difference between your mother accepting civil law and her wanting you shot to death?

>>2881432
Governments don't sell anything for profit. Gangs operate themselves mostly off of their own profits from selling their own goods.
Governments operate by taking money from their people

Why do anarcho capitalists act as if they don't have the choice to move into the less governed parts of the world, if they're so oppressed as it is?

>>2881432
One paves one doesn't

>>2881479
>what is the gun trade

>>2881481

They don't want a shithole, they want their fairytale land where there is no government but it somehow didn't descend into a chaotic shithole because everyone joined hands to sing kumbaya instead.

In a democratic system you can (hypothetically) elect candidates to office that represent your interests. You can't do that with a gang.

>>2881481
Ridiculous argument. All of the best land on the planet has been taken over by powerful governments. All the "less governed" land is either unsuitable for civilization or it's being exploited by existing outside forces.
The rhetorical question you should use is "Why are all the areas with weak governmental systems the least developed?"

>>2881432
When you're a failed state there isn't one.


When you aren't the taxes collected under threat of violence are used for public works and reasonably efficient government.

Furthermore there's a debatable issue regarding the government beung beholden to the people to sone extent where a mafia is concerned solely with itself in all cases.

>>2881498
>what is foreign aid

Governments are often at least somewhat accountable to the ‘normal’ people within their borders; whereas gangs are usually purely unaccountable organizations, more like businesses.

>>2881432
Governments usually don't give you a free tattoo when you join them, they don't know how to tag and have no secret hand signs.

>>2881479
>Freddie Mac
>Fannie Mae

>>2881432
autism

>>2881512
Yeah why is it only places with governments are well developed and have things like roads... Oh wait

>>2881432

Well a government is explicit concerned with the welfare of its location. If its not, then it's called "corrupt". A gang exists in a location and is trying to be successful in spite of the wellness of their location.

>>2881432
a government maintains a monopoly on violence

a gang may subvert it but they won't assume it

>>2881481
>If you don't like government, why don't you move to a shithole in Africa where there's 15 governments fighting over who gets the right to oppress you?
Really maked me thunk.

>>2881893
Well that's what happens when there's no government, gangs attempt to create governments

>>2881864
How? The Yakuza did disaster relief after the Fukushima crisis and punish common thugs for disturbing the peace. Black gangsters in 30's NYC gave free food to poor black families and helped them find homes. Mexican cartels are considered heroes among peasants they directly look out for.

>>2881432
Depending on the gang and government, nothing or enfranchisement.

Mafia control is essential primitive despotism; modern governments at least pay lip service to the wishes of the people either directly or indirectly under penalty of violence.

>>2881913
And now we're back at the beginning: what's the difference between a gang and a government?

>>2881864

The idea of a commonwealth government was alien to most feudal kings and nobles. In England it becomes a common idea in the 17th century. The primary relationship of governed and governor was between tenant and landlord. It takes about 500 years of centralization in government before the king was thought to owe duties to the subject generally, and in this period Charles I was executed ostensibly for failure to serve the common welfare.

>>2881432
A government uses legitimate force to uphold laws and society, and defends itself from foes.

A gang does the same, but they use illegitimate force.

What determines legitimacy is society.

>>2881432
Liberalism

>>2881927
>Yaks
They punish common thugs for disturbing the peace for no reason because they don't want the police on their ass, not out of love for the people. And when they do 'disaster relief', it's so that they can then use the perceived debt of their generosity to further entangle the people in that area in their operation: a farmer doesn't let his pigs die in a flood.

>Gangbangers

And then later, they'd turn up and say "Hey, remember how we gave you food and a home? Hide these bales of coke in your place, you owe us. Don't want to? Too bad, you owe us, and if you don't, we shoot your kids. Who you gonna run to, the white man?" Once again, it's a tool to further the operation.

>Cartels

Yeah, they're heros until they take your daughter as a sex slave, or get high on their own supply and decide to use some rando's home as target practice. They're savages of the lowest order.

>>2881432
Im 12 and this is deep.

>>2881432
the social contract

>>2881432
We peep game from the government.
You get a gun, the government gets a bigger gun.

Tupac Shakur, 1996

The difference is that the government actually considers you a valuable citizen and even at it's worst will still arrest you and give you a trial and a lawyer.

The Sopranos will just through you in the sea with cement shoes.

This idea that just because all authority works on similar principles this makes them identical is ridiculous.

>>2883280
throw you in the sea*

>>2881432
One exists within the state one is a state