/his/ suffering chart

>>2875405
Almost done, can't wait.

>>2875405
Wait, Franz Joseph x2?
45 and 70 deserved
85 suffering

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>>2875405
Crassus @ 75 deserved, 80 suffering
>Watch your son's head paraded on a stick
>Lose command of your troops
>Get killed after being humiliated
>But this was because you were a greedy cunt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugolino_della_Gherardesca

70,95

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>>2875405
Peter III of Russia at 65,55
>be Tsar of All Russias
>barely speak Russian
>alienate your nobility by being all on Frederick's jock
>generally be an ineffectual doofus
>get offed by your wife

>>2875536
That spot's taken.

the fuck did snorri sturlasson do wrong?

>>2875405
maybe put poland in 55, 90

>>2875794
Poland has been doing mostly fine.

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>>2875405

Joseph Mengele, 45 Suffering, 80 Deserved

Replace Wikipedia placehodlers with images already.

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>>2875432
Finally.
>>2875502
My bad.
>>2875592
>>2875637
>>2875794
>>2875828
Already there.
>>2875890
I don't know. I'm focusing on making the profiles the most identifiable possible. Besides, the ones without historical despictions are usually too obscure.

There was some complaints about Gengis Khan distorting the chart too much with his current position, so I moved him a bit to the right. If anyone has a better placing for him, I'll use that.

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>>2875405
45, 80 Next to Che

Abu Mussad Al Zarqawi, leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq and responsible for why its still such a shithole. Even Bin-Laden thought he was too extreme. Got a lot of US Troops killed. Didnt suffer too much, he was killed in airstrike but he sure as hell deserved it and more.

>>2876042
>le reddit memeyball meme
way to ruin the chart m8

>>2876042
>I don't know. I'm focusing on making the profiles the most identifiable possible. Besides, the ones without historical despictions are usually too obscure.
There's a ton of pictures that are close to impossible to identify already. Make an accompanying list of names if you have to, don't put names on the chart.

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>>2875405
What is Ben Shapiro doing on this chart? Not sure why he deserves so much suffering or even register on the chart at all

Id replace him with this jew

Why is Marcus aurelius at 0,80? How did he suffer so much?

Also who is 100,100. I swear I've seen this before but I don't know where.

>>2876347
Carthage.

>>2875405
Mohammed should be in X100 Y0 desu, the entirety of the levant and north african "countries" would be as peaceful as the northern counterparts of the mediterranean, perhaps limited by their genetics but still peaceful

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>>2875794
>poland
>deserving any suffering

>>2876376
There's no place for anything lower.
Of course wasting any place for countries is bad.

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>>2876376
HEY
WE DINDUNUFFIN

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>>2875405
Where's hannibal?

>>2876371
Muhammed, L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y did nothing wrong.

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>>2876395
>a pedophile inbred terrorist who spread a delusional and primitive ideology did nothing wrong

>>2876419
First of all, Aisha was 19, you can find that in ibn kathir's book the sirah

second of all, all religions are "delusional and primitive" and oddly enough the OP who put jesus is X0 Y100 seems to be a christfag

Third, historically speaking the only people muhammed's army fought were the pagans who tried to persecute the early muslims and the romans who tried to get their hands on arabia during their war against the sassanid

Read a book, you dumb frogposter, we're on a fucking history board, next time provide citations for your shit.

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>>2876443
>yes goy trust the pro-islamist terrorists book
>a-all religions are delusional and primitive, that's why christians are blowing themselves up when faced with criticism goy
>mohammed did nothing wrong goy, he literally defended himself with expansional force outwards, the 6 gorillion merchantmen who were massacred literally never happened

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>>2876477
Way to fucking reduce the board quality, redditor.

>that's why christians are blowing themselves up when faced with criticism goy
LRA, Antibalaka and the IRA would like to have a word.

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>>2875405
>tfw robespierre did nothing wrong and lived his whole life for the ideals of the revolution and the republic but will always be remembered as a monster because plebs today only listen to propaganda

80,60 Moshe Dayan
95,65 David Ben Gurion

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>>2876492
>antibalaka
>In March 2013, President Bozizé (a Christian) was overthrown in the Central African Republic Civil War by a mostly-Muslim rebel coalition known as Séléka. The leader of the Séléka, Michel Djotodia, then became the first Muslim president of the country.[8] With the disbanding of the army by Djotodia, many army members joined the group, boosting their numbers and helping train them.

>defending your own lands
>bad

>LRA
>conflict doesn't exist anymore

>IRA
>see LRA

not an argument, redditor

>>2876510
Antibalaka legit massacred civilians, dipshit.

And LRA is still fighting.

As for the IRA, appealing to time is a logical fallacy just because it doesn't exist anymore doesn't mean it didn't happen
and conveniently enough, these terrorist organizatins weren't created and funded by the CIA and the Saudis, that's why they were gone in such a small time.

>>2876503
The "it's not true because everything I don't like is the enemy propaganda" argument is got to be the lowest of the low.

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>>2876536
>d-dey massacre de islamic terrorists who took over their lan- i mean civilians goyy

>>2876330
That jew is already on there.

>>2876545
Ah, more goalpost moving

First, we were talking about muhammed's life, then you changed it to islam, then you changed it to 21st century muslims

Second, see the link in the bottom your pic, now go check out the number of people polled and compare it to 1.6 billion, bet you feel retarded now.

STOP IT!
This is not a thread about islam!
Get back on topic. Think of more figures to fill out the chart

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>>2876553
Bet you feel retarded when they have already calculated the potential error in the statistics by +-5 for 29 thousand sampled over 30+ countries if I remember correctly in their complete PDF study

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Carolus Rex (70, 30) deserves more suffering. Pic related. Put him at 60 or 80 on Y.

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>>2876553
Also, as you have already surrendered without giving an argument in "muhammad's life" and "islam" it's already dusted, way to attempt to move the goalpost, aren't you supposed to explode now

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>>2876570
Add hulaco, genghis khan and some of the founding fathers, maybe andrew jackson and washington, also lincoln
and try some civil war figures, like sherman

>>2876575
>>2876584
check the number of people polled and post it here; do it now.

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>>2876593
I accept your surrender

>>2876584
>moortugal below the balkans
Some memes make themselves

>>2875405
OP last night I submitted HErod and John Wesley Hardin
You have them reversed
Hardin was supposed to be 45 suffering and deserving 80.
Herod was 70 suffering deserving 90.
Like c'mon dude.

>>2876602
Ok, calculating the numbers in your pic the total of polled people is about 26000
now compare that to 1.6 billion people
26000 is 0.001 percent of 1.6 billion

This poll basically took 0.001 of the population and projected it onto 1.6 billion people
if you take this seriously you're a retard

this is why statistics are such a joke

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>>2876621
>he doesn't know about the likelyhood of sample sizes
>calls mathematics a joke

who's the retard now, pleb

>>2876629
Statistic aren't mathematics, double pleb, now give an argument of stfu

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>>2876633
>statistics isn't math

>>2876639
Feel free to post an argument, dodging frogposter

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Billy the Kid? Suffered 50 but deserved 75? Meh debatable but we're nearing the end.

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>>2876642
.. / .- -.-. -.-. . .--. - / -.-- --- ..- .-. / ... ..- .-. .-. . -. -.. . .-. --..-- / .-. . -.. -.. .. - --- .-.

>>2876639
>>2876629
Sample sizes aren't a thing when you're only polling 0.1% of your total subjects, that's called outright speculation

>>2876646
Dodge harder
i'm out

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>>2876282
>>2876297
>polandball
>somehow reddit
This is the gayest thing I've seen on /his/ all day.
>>2876307
I'll make a alternative labeled version like /tv/ did. Don't worry.
>>2876508
>>2876579
Did I do it right?

Here's how the labeled /his/ chart will be like. Though I'm still working on it.

>>2876330
fucking Moot is on the chart man, have a little fun

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>>2876648
>>2876652
use any sample size calculator

1.6 billion mudslimes
B
99% confidence
T
1% margin of error
F
16 thousand muslims needed
O y vey

>>2876732
Dude see >>2876620
Fix pls or get rid of the two because they're horribly misplaced.

>>2876745
>Doesn't even know what confidence level is
It's practically fucking speculation

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>>2876772
>d-doesn't even know what x is
math is practically fucking speculation

>>2876781
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_interval#Philosophical_issues

Ishii deserved worse

>>2876732
I don't like the labels.

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>>2876888
Second.

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19th century paraguay, 75,100:
>declared war on brazil
>argentina and uruguay join brazil
>failed in conventional warfare
>long and disastrous guerrilla campaign until president is killed in battle
>60% of population dead
>occupied for 6 years after war ended

>>2876888
Aye. It looks better without them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huemac
50,90

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>>2843981
Sorry for forgetting you, Anon.
>>2876974
You gotta post a good image for it or a actual entry.
>>2877176
>>2876888
>>2876945
>>2876980
Well shit. I've got no better way to list all those people in the chart and I'm already pretty far on it. But I guess I'll just drop it as it is and keep working on the normal one.

Is Sejanus already on this chart somewhere? If not, put him at 100 (how much he deserved it) and 70 (how much he suffered). Dude is one of the biggest scumbag's I've ever read about.

Also, a lot of the guys with text over their picture really don't need it, while plenty of guys without text identifying them really do need it. Too many to list out here.

>>2877266
Saladin, Deserved it 70, Suffering 30

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>>2877266
(70,30) Belisarius

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>>2877266
soz mate

>>2877266
OP why are you ignoring me. >>2876765
>>2876620
The misplacement here is retarded and only happened because you didn't understand the x/y axis posting.
If you need me to spell it out:
move 70 suffering, 45 deserved to 45 suffering 70 deserved
90 suffering, 70 deserved to 70 suffering, 90 deserved
And to compensate to Al Zarqawi move him 50 suffering 75 deserved.
I'd do it myself but the file becomes too large for 4chan.

Salazar needs to suffer way more, fuck you

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>>2877345
Sorry. Good thing that you kept replying.
>>2877288
>>2877294
>>2877319
Sorry man, no more space.
>>2877322

Keep posting, guys. We're pretty damn close now.

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>>2877404

Emperor Leopold I of the HRE, 70 Suffering, 45 Deserved

>>2877404
Shit I meant Hardin goes 45 suffering, 80 deserved. If you can tweak him and Zarqwahi to switch that would be perfect,

70:45 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_Iron_Mask
>Spend years in a French prison
>Also have to wear a cage on your face
>Forgotten by your real name
>Not even the guards know who you are

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>>2877444
Trips of truth

>>2877404
(85,80) Sultan Ibrahim of the Ottoman Empire

>>2877444
>>2877452
Ooh, good one.
>>2877404
He means 45, 70 I guess.

>>2877473
Yeah, I figured he was fairly central in the chart since it isn't clear as to who he is or what he was imprisoned for

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>>2877404
Pope Boniface VIII
Suffered 65
Deserved 80

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Holy shit I see a leader from my country at 75, 65

>Jesus at 0

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How the hell is noble martyr and lifelong republican, Marcus Cato, more guilty than Assad?

>>2877404
Switch Montezuma and Huemac

Also, assuming you do the labels as seen in >>2876732, either the label for Montezuma or the image needs to be changed, as Montezuma's image is actually Montezuma II, not Montezuma I. Personally, I think for where he's located, Montezuma II makes more sense anyways, the first Monty was more of an asshole.

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How much he deserved, /his/?

How did Aurelius suffer?

>>2875405
>Bush, Churchill, Mandela, Freud, Roosevelt and other scum in the middle/left

>Francisco Solano Lopez, Franco, Hernan Cortes, Tomas Moro and others in the right

The person who did this bullshit is a fucking retard. I suppose that person is a libtard, since he put the communist scum in the left.

>>2877404
>Caligula
>only deserved 60
???

Switch Nazi Germany to normal and generic Germany

>>2875405
>Huey Long
>Deserving to suffer more the Putin

Explain that one to me.

Move Assad to (80, 65)?

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>>2877428
>>2877430
>>2877444
That's as much as I could fit him.
>>2877465
>>2877473
That space has just been taken. Sorry.
>>2877553
>>2877974
Yep, I fucked up in the labeled one. It's Montezuma II.
>>2880721
lol
>>2881310
Gonna need a explanation first. That's a big jump.

You guys sure you don't want me to do a labeled version for the historically illiterate? Also, only 9 spaces to go.

>>2881550
Is Béla Kun in the chart?

Does this chart work on how much net suffering a person endured, or how much they suffered relative to how much they deserved it?

Like, a completely pure, innocent person wouldn't deserve even a little suffering. So would that little bit of suffering place them high on the suffering axis, or low on the axis because they're suffering was little regardless of their innocence?

>>2881550
Where is erich honecker? He dindu nuffin

>>2881601
We already went over this. It's painfully obvious the chart is supposed to be about how much suffering a person had in their life vs. how much they actually deserved for their actions. You know full well in your heart that a chart where the deserved axis which is meant to represent accuracy in morality would be retarded.

>>2881550
was (20, 100) someone exposed to radiation?

Or what is the story on him?

>>2881601
It depends. The ones where they didn't suffer too much but got high on suffering anyway merely because of their purity and innocence are usually somewhat meme choices.

>>2881550
Can you switch Huemac and Montezuma's spots?

>>2881601
>So would that little bit of suffering place them high on the suffering axis, or low on the axis because they're suffering was little regardless of their innocence?

I assume the latter

>>2881550
>Kierkegaard didn't suffer
Total bullshit. He's at least a 30 on the suffering.

>>2881633
HIroshi Ouchi. He got a bad case of radiation and was used as a experiment to test the effects of it in his body. He lived his last days of life being forced to live in horrible degenerative sickness.

It is pretty bad.

Who's in the top right corner?

>>2882438

Carthage

Who's at Suffering 100 Deserved 40? Tiberius?

>>2882449
Yes

There's a lot debatable with this list. We should do consensus tweaks when were done like /a/ did.

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>>2875405
I don't know who half these people are. does anyone have a key?

>>2882457

idk if he's worthy of 100, but he certainly is up there

literally called "tristissimus hominum" lol

>>2882474
Read through the threads and make a key

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>>2881550


Antiochus III

>>2882771

Shit meant to put coordinates, 65 suffering, 85 deserved

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>>2881550

Ireland, 90, 65

>>2882779


90 suffering, 65 deserved

>>2881550
For labels, just make a sheet below with all the coordinates (or just list them from top to bottom). Because yeah, putting it on the image looks shit.

If you are going to have the Romanov family at 95,75 you might want to remove Nicky from 50,85.

>>2882457
>We should do consensus tweaks when were done like /a/ did.
Yeah, and the original /op/ who was making the chart was kind of retarded.

Please tell me someone is keeping track of everyone on the chart and their position

>>2882788

deserved is a fair sight higher for many

>>2881550
Is Vladimir Komarov on there yet? If not, I'd say X=65, Y=95.

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>>2882771
>>2882779
Added
>>2882932
Removed Nicky


Added England at 90,65

Also moved some things around. Moved Patton to 35,25 (he got passed up and thrown under the bus a lot because he didn't want to play politics, it also removed the irrelevant pile of bones). Brought both Göring and John I up so brought Pancho and reporter who I don't know back. Brought Trump to 5 suffering because he has led nothing but a charmed life and has gotten just about everything he ever wanted.

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>>2883018
Paul Kruger
(65, 90)

>>2883024
No wait. Never mind. The open space at (50, 85) is better.

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>>2883028
>>2883006

>>2883039
Guy Fawkes 70,85

>>2883039
>>2883018
see
>>2881741
>Can you switch Huemac and Montezuma's spots?

>>2883066
>Can you switch Huemac and Montezuma's spots?
What about removing Huemac and bringing Monty over to 70 deserved it?

>>2883094
i'd say 70 is too much. Ideally, given who else is in those columns, he'd be between 50 and 55, but no such space exists.

>>2883127
>>2883094
To be clear, if it was Montezuma I, then 70 deserve might be more reasonable, but for Montezuma II, that's too far.

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>>2883132
>>2883127
I just removed Huemac as he seemed irrelevant and unsourced.

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>>2883159
He was probably added because of pic related

>>2875405
What has Latvia and Lithuania done to deserve so much suffering?

>>2883159
Is Lyndon Johnson on there?

>FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT TSAR NICOLAS DIDN'T DESERVE ANYTHING HE GOT.

Is Dostoevsky on there?

This is a really shitty image.

>>2883159
So how does this graph work, OP
Mostly on the "Deserved" part.
Is it "Deserved for the amount they got" or "Deserved to get this much instead"?

>>2883287
Pretty sure it's deserved to get

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40, 30
Field Marshall Herbert Kitchener

Took charge during the Boer War where the British were carrying out atrocities in the concentration camps they had set up, generally disliked by his men and notably Winston Churchill for being cruel and brutal in the Mahdist Wars

but died on the way to Russia after his boat was hit by a mine laid by a German U-Boat

>>2883347
>atrocities in concentration camps
Sorry the boers kind of raided supplies heading there, it had a lower death rate than London, and it was during the middle of a guerrila war

>>2883357
hence 40, I quite like Kitchener, and I do agree that what he did was in war, but you can justify many things through "it was war" so for me, the point still stands

>>2883366
especially since many of the camp residents were men who had no chance to fight back because of their age, women, and children - there's no need to subject those who do not have a say or have an ability to fight in a war to the war they have found themselves in

>>2883366
40 is still a lot
I'd say 20 because yes he made young men die in ww1, but it saved the British and French empire
>>2883376
Yes that's why they were put there rather than arrested. As then they are out the way and you cannot accidentally kill them when checking farm houses

>>2883390
That's just WW1 though, Kitchener was in charge of the Mahdist Wars, the Boer Wars, Franco-Prussian War - he allowed the mowing down of12,000 men, injuring of 13,000 and capturing of 5,000 in one battle alone for example whilst he only lost 23 of his own men. 22,000 people died in one year alone in the Boer War and that's just counting children.
Putting him at 20 is far too minimalist, in what way is Sigmund Freud or Boethius equally as deserving?

>>2883390
and if you're going to send people to concentration camps so you don't 'accidentally kill them', you should do what you can to ensure they don't die when you're supposedly saving them

“Within 10 miles we (the English) burned not less than six farm homesteads. Between 30 and 40 homesteads were burned and totally destroyed between Bloemfontein and Boshoff. Many others were also burned down. With their houses destroyed, the women and children were left in the bitter South African winter in the open.” - they were taken to the camps because there was no other choice, the British lovingly cared for the lives of the people they had just ruined through the destruction of livelihood, so generous of them

You should have put a picture of some dead kulaks in the top right corner

Why is "Alberto Barbosa" on 95,100?

>Jesus at 0/100
dafuq? he had crucification light, he doesn't even make suffering 85.

What's that at 100,100?

>>2883460
It's one of the worst ways to die. Not the worst but horrible.

>>2883508
DELENDA EST

>>2883357
He wasn't innocent. He fucking lined up women and children in front of his troops when the Boers were about to fight them in battle.

>>2883263
t. buttblasted autist

>>2883460
His whole life was just pure sacrifice, Anon. Besides, he was objectively a saint and didn't deserve anything that befell on him.

>>2883159
Switch Pandora (5,85) with Judas Iscariot (5,20). I'm pretty sure Pandora never got any real punishment whereas Judas not only ended up killing himself painfully, but also ended up being a synonymous of traitor.

Who's the handsome asian lad in 55,65?

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>>2883460
You're like the 50th fucking idiot to make this complaint.

>>2883691
Mao Zedong's son who was killed by NATO bombs during the Korean War.

>>2883159
Only 7 spots left. Get them while you still can.

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Fuck it, put Mosley at 40, 30.

>>2883460
Besides crucifixion (which is extremely painful btw) he was publicly humiliated, betrayed, spent 40 days in the wilderness. and had to deal with corrupt government slandering him. For a person as deeply empathetic and good-natured as Jesus his whole life was a trial.

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>>2884380
Man in the iron mask for 40:30
>Be in French prison
>Be forced to wear a mask at all times
>Guards don't know what you look like
>Die in prison
>Forgotten by time
Victim of French tyranny or truly guilty?

>>2884380
OP should go on the list, no doubt he`s been through suffering from making this list and he deserved it since he started it.
Across 95, up 80.

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>>2884393

>>2875405
>Been Shapiro in the same column as McVeigh
Ok this is a good chart

>>2884380
changes?

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>>2884380
Lycaon
Suffering 80, Deserved 70

>>2884473
you have to justify why dude

>>2884393
>>2884409
If the mask was pulled off would he die?

>>2884479
Since when lol.
But here's his article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycaon_(Arcadia)

>>2884506
Quite possibly because it would have revealed his identity to the world, something the French monarchy did not want.
Could you imagine being forced to wear a mask until you died, and only being allowed to talk if it was something such as a request for water or food

>>2884409
>>2884393
He's already on the list (75, 55).

>>2884547
Good news to hear

>>2884538
That's a fate worse than death. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

>>2884380
I would really suggest trying to remove all the Wikipedia article people. It makes the chart look like shit and most of them aren't import (or funny) enough to garner a spot.

>>2884519
lmao, like dude, just eat my sons

Who at 100x0?

>>2884996
Pol Pot

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>>2884380
Thanks for the help, kind anon.
>>2884229
>>2884393
Already posted.
>>2884473

I guess I'll just take it over again. Only 4 slots left, boys.

>>2885569
/his/ - History & Humanities (95, 80)

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>>2885569
May as well add Agamemnon. (suffer 85, deserve 70)
Also whats with the Pandora and Judas switch?

is the boy Enver Pasha on here?

>>2885661
Yes.

rasputin needs to stay same deserve, but to one of the higher sufferings.

Dude was poisoned, shot, beaten, drowned and then had his cock cut off and stuffed in a preserving liquid.

>>2885647
>Also whats with the Pandora and Judas switch?
Agreed. Judas betrayed a man he was friends with and thought to be God or the messiah or both for a few coins and then was such a pussy he killed himself. He hardly suffered at all for what could be considered one of the worst offenses to commit.

Whole countries should not be on this chart. A flag does not suffer, individuals living in the land it represents do. Replace flags with actual people; averaging out the relative suffering of entire groups of people is retarded.

>>2885698
agreed

>>2885698
Yeah, they were placeholders. I think since we're almost done we can think up some more.

Get Hermann Goring in the place of UK - leader of the Luftwaffe so responsible for the orchestration of the Blitz, and numerous other raids across Europe. Suffered by being turned by his own party and having his arrest ordered because he asked to take Hitler's place if he committed suicide. He was then imprisoned by the Allies and made to die unloved, countryless and alone by his own hand

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>>2885592
>>2885647
Also, see >>2883685
>>2884884
Using obscure images for literally whos is not a good ideia, Anon. The chart won't really benefit from that at all.
>>2885689
I agree. Though Pandora being at such high suffering isn't very accurate to me. I'lll just unswitch them for now.
>>2885698
You're correct, but I don't know at this point. They weren't supposed to be taken too seriously anyway. I'll replace them if we get better suggestions for their slots.

>>2885698
>>2885700

Also agreed. Same with the random wikipedia articles and a few of the mythological characters.

>>2885781
>Using obscure images for literally whos is not a good ideia, Anon. The chart won't really benefit from that at all.
The idea wasn't to get images for them but to remove them completely because, as you yourself said, they are literally whos.

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are Bonny and Clyde on here? If not slide them right into that S: 75 D: 85 spot

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>>2885847

>one more spot
C'mon /his/, you should know someone that deserved around 70 and got 90 of suffering.

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>>2886449
What about King Edward the 2nd?
>Shitty successor to his father Longshanks
>Was possibly gay during medieval times which makes life way harder.
>Is held down and has a red hot poker shoved up his ass in order to fry his organs

>>2886530
That might actually work

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>>2886530
>>2886540

Yep. It's finally all completed, guys. I might do some more if people still wants to switch slots or add some other historical figure over a country/literallywho slot.

Thanks for everyone that has contributed in the making of this chart.

>>2886569
There are two Tupac Amaru II in (15,95) and (35, 100)

>>2886569
It's alright though I hope we switched some of the polandball shit out to something other

>>2886569
amusing to see the ideological bias of /his/ laid bare

>>2886589
And what bias would that be?

Good jaab everyone.....hope to collaborate again in the future. Although I do agree it needs a little fine tuning but overall good jaab
*Tips 105%

>>2886594
That Jeb was the most tortured of the Bushes.

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>tfw General Robert E. Lee will never save Anne Frank after leading a daring Confederate assault to liberate the Netherlands
>Anne will never have a diary entry describing her encounter with a tall, uncommonly fine looking officer riding grey Saddleback being cheered incessantly by his men everywhere he went
>we don't even have the original version of Southern Victory where the Confederacy saves the Mormons from being gassed by Gordon McSweeney

GODDAMNIT

WHY IS THIS TIMELINE IS SUCH SHIT?!

>>2886609
He's seen as being the most innocent because he was too retarded to fuck things up like his brother and dad.

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>>2886589
Same. Wonder how /pol/ would have done it.
>>2886578
Fuck.
>>2886579
Only Poland and Imperial Germany.

I guess I'll end the Tupac problem by adding a placeholder of ultimate suffering, Junko Furuta. It's kind of cheating, but that does it.

Good night everyone.

>>2886724

Post the template on /pol/ and find out

>>2886724
>>2886569
>added huemac back
>but didn't switch his postion with Montezuma

CHARTANON PLS

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>>2886754
Right.

>>2886630

Wait, was Fuhrer McSweeney and the Mormocaust actually supposed to be a thing?

why did hirohito deserve it? did he play a crucial part in japan's war crimes? I thought it was the military behaving against the empire's orders.

also, he had to denounce his godhood and was on the losing side of the greatest war of all time. That's at least a 5.

>>2886941
It's just a meme. He did condone it initially but Hideki Tojo is almost 100% responsible for Japan's crimes in WWII.

>>2875536
Crassus is on 60, 60

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>>2884380
Hey, I just noticed you changed Nazi Germany to regular Germany.

Really, faggot?

no hypatia?

>>2888086
Check (35,90).

>>2886775
who's the meltyface between the Habsburgs and Latvia

>>2888100
Emmett Till

Finally over, it is beautiful. I'm proud of taking part of this project.
Congratulations, Anon. You really have loads of free time.

>>2888224
Same. I think i personally placed about 15.
Props to you OP!

Placed around 5-7, beautiful.

>>2886775
>>2888224
It's a shame we ended up with so many meme responses at the end. I was under the impression we were going to be critical and not put people in extremely unfair positions because we disagree with them personally.

We need to remove all memes and countries honestly.

>Julius Caesar
>not 100 suffering x -100 deserved it

>>2875405

You got the template by any chance?

>>2886775
who's the guy at 15, 100 ?

This is so ridiculous and potentially harming as time period is not taken into consideration.

>>2892291
The last Chinese monarch who was killed by Mao Zedong.

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>>2888084
>implying the G*rmans didn't deserve it

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>>2886890

It was, McSweeney was basically supposed to be Hitler combined with a corrupted form of Puritanical Christianity. His rule was supposed to serve as the Puritans' legacy from oppressed to oppressors coming full circle (hence why he is a descendant of Mayflower settlers) and as the final corruption of United States that began with its loss in the Civil War in the form of discarding the centuries-old Institution of Separation of Church and State and embarking on a campaign of religious-motivated mass murder.

The fight for national survival against the United States in the Second Great War and the horrifying revelations of the Mormon Holocaust were supposed what finally broke the Confederacy free of its century of racial strife and forced it to socially reform from within much as WW2 did for the United States as a whole.

Unfortunately, Turtledove's publisher thought the whole America literally becoming the Nazis and exterminating the Mormons plot was too incendiary and he was forced to go with a more politically safer Confederate Hitler gassing the blacks route.

Shame too. He could've at least Anne Frank or some other notable irl Holocaust victim into a POV character so we could get a view of the conflict between the United and Confederate States through somewhat unbiased eyes (Anne would have had little to no knowledge of the events that led to the American Civil War and thus no opinion on which side was "right"). A couple of chapters describing her shock and horror as the persecution of Mormons reaches genocidal levels would've made for excellent lampshading.

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>>2892238

we wus kings not killers

>>2893008

thanks

Will post on /pol/ and get back to y'all with the results

>>2884380
>Latvia and Lithuania at 50 deserved

For what purpose? Latvia hasn't been relevant long enough, might as well remove it from the chart. Lithuania? Did the Commonwealth fuck some shit up I don't know about?

>>2893008
>Every single square above y =-x is gonna be filled with Jews
>Every square below it will be Nazi Germany

>>2893394
y = -x + 100?

>>2893283
Nice. I wonder how much of a shitfest it's going to turn out and if it's going to be too different from /his/.

>>2886775
Wasn't there a labelled version of this somewhere?

>>2883508
New City

>>2886775
That Hiroshi Ouchi image isn't even him actually, just some burn victim. They had Ouchi covered pretty much 24/7 or else he would've died much sooner.

So we've got this. What now? Some kind of quiz? I don't think there's a version with a name list.

>>2875405
So is it right to say Diogenes did not deserve to suffer as little as he did?

What's at 100,100?

This is mostly a joke right? Some of this makes no sense lol

Is pedro 2 of brazil here?

>>2892442
Karl Marx was a jew, not germanic.

>>2895746
He would have been considered German citizen under Hitler's Nuremberg Laws.

>>2895334
The flag of Carthage (at least, its flag in Total War: Rome II).

Who is We Wuz supposed to represented?

>>2896041
Alberto Barbosa (Al-Wewuz, the Munificent), ruler of the Ancient Portuguese Caliphate.

>>2886775
>gaddafi
>deserving suffering

Hitler saw his mother die, his country ruined after WW1, was rejected as an artist, lived homeless on the streets, watched his niece commit suicide, have his health decline, his friends betray him and everything he worked for destroyed before killing his dog, wife and himself. His suffering should be way higher he had a miserable life

>>2897663
they didn't deserve that much.

>>2895140
t. Plato

>>2895466
Some (mostly the ones on top right) are memes, bu the rest is legit. It's supposed to be a despiction of /his/' general opinions, so of course some of it is going to be either shit or shit memes.

How did carthage deserve it?

>>2898825

Probably

t. Roman

>>2875405
>Carthage having maximum suffering and maximum how much they deserve it

It's been a while since I browsed /his/, first time seeing this. Fucking kek.

>>2897725
t. IRA member

Is Hugo Chavez here?

>>2901186
me too anon. Cato would be proud. I am proud.

Are H.P. Lovecraft and Alan Turing on it?

>>2886569
For the love of god, please include the names.

Not everyone is an autist or his major.

>>2903807
t. brainlet

>>2892551

Goddamn Southern Victory would've so much better if he had done that.

>>2892442

Merkel is mostly /pol/ish though

>>2903807
>>2882474
There's a semi labeled version in >>2877266. If you want, you could just read the threads though.

>>2875405
Consort Qi suffered way more than Jesus not that that is saying all that much. Rommel deserved it far more his lust for glory lead to unnecessary losses and he could not conceptualize anything more than a few kilometres away. Louis XIV and Genghis also did not nearly suffer as much

>>2875405
Where's leonidas?

>>2908786
In the 2007 memes graveyard.

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>>2908993

You wut boy?

>>2875405
I can't think of a good replacement, but I do know for sure that Carthage's position is fucking ridiculous. Killing kids is nothing special in the ancient world, by the state, the religion, or otherwise. Rome were probably more evil just for what they themselves did to Carthage alone.

>>2910384
And furthermore, even if they for sure regularly sacrificed kids, even in the open all the time and everyone was totally down, that rating compared to all other states and figures suggests it would have to be on par with shit like the Mongol conquests and the Holocaust. I don't think so.

>Putting Jesus at 0 deserving it 100 suffering

Fucking christtards

>>2910420
even strictly as a historical figure which is how i see him that's not a bad choice
i mean who the hell else are you gonna put there who actually did anything significant?

>>2910420
We've been over this. He never did anything but what he thought was the absolute best for humankind and had a shit life and death for it.

>>2875536
He was salty at Pompeii for taking his triumph against the gladiator rebellion

WHy did tupac deserve it? Also who is the person below him?

>>2876363
Is carthage deserving it a meme or is child sacrifice too extreme

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>>2875405
Cesare Borgia, below Nazi Germany
>Get born into a rich family
>Fall in love with your sister
>Wage war on other italian states
>Kill men for various reasons, ranging from jealousy to just for the hell of it
>Contract syphilis
>Die a slow and painful death at the hands of your enemies

>>2875828
Heart attack while swimming sounds really suffering to me

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>>2911668

>implying it wasn't Mossad finally catching up to him

>>2876788
>>2876781
Islam is not so bad of a religion. But the followers are mostly awful people :^)

>>2875637
>>2875536
>>2876510
can we get a pastebin of these?

>>2912260

kek always suspected Mengele died that way

>>2912260
>file name
I chuckled.

>>2914646

Not a joke, that photo is from the Church Committee Hearings.

>>2875405
Who exactly is at 99, 100, the WE WUZ guy?

>>2914662
I'd never heard of that. Had to look it up. Hilarious and horrifying.

>>2892395
>killed

>>2875405
the eternal venetian is more deserving of 100,5 than pol pot desu

>>2876443
But Jesus is the best canidate for that position. Even with no religious influences, he did nothing wrong and suffered massively.

>>2915394
Causing unrest in a Roman province known for being unruly isn't nothing m8

>>2915417
Okay, dude. And because people keep complaining about it look at it like this - a deeply empathetic man abandons his normal life and devotes it completely to helping people and making others more virtuous and loving in the most understandable and universal fashion he can despite overwhelming circumstances against him, goes through it despite constant persecution and poverty, and ends up betrayed and abandoned, painfully killed and humiliated by the people he was trying to help, and accepts it and even asks for their forgiveness. Sure it stirred some shit up but it was done with his own initiative for genuine love of humanity on a personal level.

>>2915452
The Romans did nothing wrong

>>2897725
i realize he was technically holding back islamists is his country, but that doesn't magically make him a good guy, it just means there was a bigger monster lying in wait behind him, and arguably that took him out. but make no mistake, he was indeed a monster in his own right.

>>2915452
CEASE THIS DISORDER IMMEDIATELY
HAIL CAESAR

Should we make another thread when it hits the bump limit or let the meme die?

>>2917113
Make another.

>>2917113
Let it die

>>2918150
>>2918175

I'll make another with the results of /pol/'s spin on it.

That way we have a fresh thread to have a good chuckle at.

Decided to post the template on /pol/, will post updates in this thread or another

>>>/pol/128831473

>>2919879
They think it's some kind of datamine survey. lel

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>>2919918

Typical paranoid /pol/

>>2876536
The IRA weren't fighting for Catholicism, I thought this was a history board?

>>2919879
Looks like a fail. I thought /pol/ would catch on immediately. Guess they were overestimated.

>>2875405
>implying Carthage weren't the good guys
>implying defending yourself from Roman imperialism is bad

Nice eurocentrism.

Not enough anglo hate desu

>>2920059
Why did you post in on /pol/?

>>2920083
Why so salty?

>>2920100
Remember they have salty fields over there

>>2920090

for lulz

So far, a grand total of two posters responded with actual answers. The rest are just fucking arguing.

Maybe I'll post in an /nsg/ thread or something, they're usually more responsive and articulate, even if they are Neo-Nazi shitheads.

>>2875405
What is that 100;100 symbol?

>>2893291
Latvians as people have been fucked over plenty even if the state only exists for only 100 years

>>2920237
Carthage

What did 5,95 do?
I don't see why a consort would be here

>>2886775
Which Sargon?

>>2921532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consort_Qi

>>2921532
>"Emperor Hui tried to save Liu Ruyi's life. Before Liu Ruyi could get to the capital, Emperor Hui intercepted his young brother at Bashang (霸上, in modern Xi'an) and received Liu Ruyi into his palace, and they dined together and slept together. Empress Dowager Lü wanted to kill Liu Ruyi, but was afraid that any attempt might also harm her own son, and therefore could not carry out her plot for several months.

>Empress Dowager Lü got her chance in winter 195 BC. One morning, Emperor Hui was out hunting and wanted to take Liu Ruyi with him. The young prince was then only 12 years old and refused to get up from bed, and Emperor Hui left for the hunt on his own. Empress Dowager Lü heard this and immediately sent an assassin into the emperor's palace to force poisoned wine down the prince's throat. By the time that Emperor Hui returned, his brother was dead. She then had Consort Qi's eyes gouged out, made her ears deaf, drugged her to make her unable to speak and had her arms and legs cut off. The mutilated woman was thrown to a toilet and fed and kept alive in a pig's bin and was called the "人彘", meaning literally the "human swine". (She would die from the torture.) When Emperor Hui saw his father's favorite and the mother of his beloved little brother in such a condition, he cried out loud and became ill for about a year, complaining to his mother that he felt that he could not govern the empire, given that he was the son of someone like her who has done such inhuman deed. From that point on, Emperor Hui indulged himself with wine and women and no longer made key governing decisions, leaving them to his mother."
poor woman

>>2921651
How the fuck do people this cruel even exist

>>2915452
Nice reply man, I like when we reply good