I heard that ancient civilizations tend to be created around

cause hungarians stink, like old moldy cheese I heard

There were definitely agricultural cultures in the Danube river area, they just didn't invent writing, so we don't know anything about them.

>inb4 Vinca signs were writing

>>2871663
it was a center of early farming settlements.

>>2871680
>There were definitely agricultural cultures in the Danube river area, they just didn't invent writing, so we don't know anything about them.
Actually there was evidence of writing system, but simply not much lasted till now.

>>2871663
The Danube has no feature that would concentrate people into one area, which is something that both ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia have in common.

>>2871663
Well anon see, there were actually several.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talianki_(archaeological_site)
>>2871680
>Vinca signs weren't writing

then what are they.

>>2871663
Too cold?

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Is it advisable to live near rivers and bodies of water?
I assumed that, unless it was somewhere like the Nile that has predictable flooding, it's a bad idea to live near the water, historically, for contamination issues.

>>2872278
Only hot rivers could trigger social processes which generate very specific regime - aqua-despotism. All other places were primeval or at most democratic city-states.

>>2872284
As long it is a river.
>>2872300
uafhgiafhawf

>>2872284
Are you fucking stupid?
Look at nearly every city in the world outside of the retarded american west.

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If they made all of their shit out of wood is it possible that none of their structures would have survived on the archeological record?

>>2872424
Yes.

>Area has been continually inhabited since antiquity
>Buildings upon buildings upon buildings
>Even today they have difficulties in Italy finding roman shit because there's so much of everything else built on top.

>>2872435
not to mention if you do not build with wood and clay instead of stone
any structure just rot away and crumble to nothing after a few decades to centuries

you will be very lucky to find some post holes and broken pieces of pottery

those will tell you very very little of what was going on there in lets say the neolithic

>>2872435
>Even today they have difficulties in Italy finding roman shit
A what now? We can't build fucking nothing because we find shit everytime we start digging foundations. Just this year in my city there have been 3 different new digs started in place of parking lots. One was roman, the other two preroman.
Fucking hell even dredging rivers is a fucking nightmare unless said rivers changed their path through the centuries (which actually happened far more often than you'd think).

>>2872284
You don't have to build ON THE RIVER. You can build next to it, if the area is flood prone, or you fear the 100-200 year extreme floods.

but there were
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture

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>>2871673
wat

>>2872554
>asked for a civilization based along the Danube
>name a culture that wasn't based on the Danube

What did Anon mean by this?

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>>2871673
Just like your sisters cunt

>>2871663
The FIRSTa civilization was Indoeuropean cucuteni, however when they went west they made a great massacre in the Danube which was inhabited by hairy cave like people and the Carpatian became known as a great cemetery, so it was impossible to build in that area, so no civilization flourished there, still today the legends of the vampires come from all those hairy people killed by Aryans.

Glad I could help.

>>2871663
The whole region was fertile enough that the population could be dispersed all over, rather than packed densely next to the river.

>>2872284
Early civs did have issues with floods. That is why universal flooding is a common myth all around.

But why did you think being closed to flowing bodies of water would bring about "contamination"? It's still water you have to be careful with.

I think there was no need for irrigation there because rain water is good enough.

Pakistan, Egypt, Mesopotamia are deserts, and the yellow river had floods, droughts, and isnt far from the mongolian desert.

>>2874240
Could you give some sources or references on that? Im not saying you arent right, I just want to learn more on the subject

>>2871663
Civilization is born out of necessity. The Nile spawned civilization because the surrounding area desertified, forcing people to coalesce. The Danube, in contrast, is surrounded by fertile land.

>>2871663
The danube flows downstream towards Serbia, why didn't AustroHungary just poison the river instead of making a fuss with the shitty ultimatum? What the fuck did they expect?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture

>>2876528
>still trying to blame AHE

the danube and tisza rivers often flooded, made lots of turns, the climate isnt quite egypt tier so the result is

swamps, swamps everywhere, swamp in your pants, in 50 kms away from the river, smaller rivers, more swamps

settlements were sparce and had to be located on higher grounds, not alot of it on the plains

it was like this till the 19th century when it was finally regulated and the riverbeds cleaned/straightened out, swamps empties and used to agriculture

>>2878457
What? Egypt was full of swamps, most archaeology in the north is lost because of this.

>>2878742
thats the river delta you absolute mong

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>>2871663
Ancient civilizations were created in river valleys next to rivers that have a predictable flow. Look at pic related, ever wondered why the egyptians didn't continue building cities along the Nile deeper into Africa? It's because the waters get rougher and rougher the more you go south, and floods can fuck you up big time.

The Danube was and still is notoriously rough, hence lots of damns needed to be built and even then heavy rainfall can overflood the river, which could lead to catastrofies like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Baia_Mare_cyanide_spill

Also, indoeuropeans were nomads, when they migrated they kept close to bodies of water, especially rivers, so if anyone settled near the Danube the nomads would've sacked the shit out of their tree branch settlement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepenski_Vir

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>>2872424
>>2872504
Sure, most building material would've been lost but piles/stilts have been recovered, especially in marshes. Read more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_pile_dwellings_around_the_Alps

One of these pile settlements (in the Ljubljana marsh in Slovenia) is the location of the oldest discovered axle wheel in the world (dating about 5100 to 3500 years ago). Apart from wooden artifacts, there are much more items from other materials, for example ceramics.