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Why did no one kill Stalin? Everyone must have hated him but

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Why did no one kill Stalin? Everyone must have hated him but still he's just one man. Why didn't someone just walked up to him and shot him?
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He had everyone who he thought that could do it shot or sent far away.
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>>2870817
All the alternatives were worse

Also he was based
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It was tried.
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>>2870817
Stalin took special care in taking out literally anyone that might have had the potential of such things. If someone managed to survive the purges they probably were already fanatically loyal to Stalin and/or were too scared to commit such things in fear retaliation to him and his family. On top of that Stalin's cult of personality made it so that people couldn't really think of anyone else leading the country than old uncle Joseph. Despite this, there were still some attempts at his life as >>2870915 said. I remember some red army soldier tried to shoot Stalin in 1942 and a German operation to send a POW in Moscow to take Stalin out but those failed obviously.
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>>2870826
A fucking hobo killed Franz Ferdinand, all they had to do was give a random guy a pistol and he'd be proclaimed tsar.
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>>2871089

Unlike Franz Ferdinand, Stalin barely ever showed himself in public. And if he did, it was at maximum security.

For God's sake, despite his egocentrism, Stalin refused to lead the Victory parade of 1945. It was led by Zhukov instead with Stalin watching at safe distance.
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>>2870817
The jews poisoned stalin once he finally turned his attention to them
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>>2871102
Also owning a handgun in stalins time was enough for 10 years in gulag for plotting terrorism
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Soviet citizen
I have to follow the rules or else the secret police sends me to gulag.

Secret police X
I have to follow the rules or else the secret police Y sends me to gulag.

Secret police Y
I have to follow the rules or else the secret police X sends me to gulag.

Stalin
I'll keep sending people to gulag so they don't start to organize against me.
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>>2870866
XD upvoted
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>>2870817
He was loved by the people.
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>>2871044
>I remember some red army soldier tried to shoot Stalin in 1942
when did this happen?
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>>2872418
/thread
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>>2872418
Or else.
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>>2872418
Yeah, just like all those North Koreans who were weeping at the loss of their great leader.

I mean, showing a little praise for your leader is better than getting sent to a Gulag, right?
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>>2872400

Interesting...
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Stalin kept a loyal inner circle of people like Mikhail Kalinin and Alexander Poskrebyshev who performed sensitive functions but were effectively powerless.
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>>2870817
they did
he died like a poisoned rat
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Only kulaks and shitty capitalists hate Stalin or communism in general.

P.S. USSR was state capitalism with some socialist elements

inb4 "NEVER BEEN TRIED LOL LOLOLOOLOOL"

Gulag yourselves.
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>>2870817
A lot of people (especially in his inner circle) were pretty fucking devoted to him, and the ones that weren't devoted to him he had killed/imprisoned/their wives imprisoned.
Also it's pretty god damned likely that it was Beria who killed him, so there's that.
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>>2870817

Stalin killed literally everybody who had even the slightest potential to threaten him.
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>>2872639
/leftypol/ go home, your stale memes weren't original at HQ and they're not original now.
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>>2870817
Yeah bruh just walk in on the most paranoid man in history and shoot him like lmao what's the worst that could happen? His guards torturing you to death? Sending your entire country down the civil war path again?

Reminder that Stalin died alone because everyone around him was so scared of bothering him that they left him alone in his room for 3 days before even daring to check on him.
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>>2872639
Wait... so Stalin was a capitalist, but only capitalists hate him???

Can somebody who isn't from /leftypol/ attempt to decipher this shit?
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>>2872639
Fuck off, Stalin was actually just a different color fascist. Support for him to any degree is antithetical to pretty much everything that socialism is about. Read Marx, read Gramsci, read Lenin.
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>>2872639
>Proletariat
>Bourgeois
>Porkie
There you go, have some more commie buzzwords.
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>>2872427
In 1942 senpai damn
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He was killed though, by that degenerate fuck Beria.
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>>2872848
State capitalism is where the state does all the factory running, instead of capitalists. Socialism, by definition, is where the workers do all the factory running.
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>>2870817
Same reason people don't kill other dictators. They're brainwashed to respect them and they have little privacy or secrecy and any hint of going against their leader gets them killed. It is thought though that he may have been poisoned in 53.
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>>2872995
>the workers do all the factory running.
Wouldn't this inevitably lead to some workers becoming the leaders and giving themselves increased powers and wages in exchange for the responsibility of running the factory?
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>>2873015
How would they do that if their position in the factory depends on the support of those under them? They could be "physically removed" as they say. Doesn't even need to be that extreme though, they could easily just stop going to work or stop the abusive workers from coming to work.
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>>2872570
He died aged 74. It's perfectly likely that he simply died of natural causes.
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>>2873021
Perhaps the workers would eventually realize that only a handful of them are intelligent/experienced enough to actually run the factory and would promote them to positions in which they would run the factory.
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>>2872813
>>2872917
I'm not aware of any evidence that Beria killed Stalin. And if he did, it sure was a dumb idea on Beria's part given what happened soon afterward.
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>>2872469
>implying Best Korea isn't literally the greatest country in the world
Shut up zionist
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>>2873026
Right. Leave it to the workers to decide how to organize their workplace. A person should have a say in the decisions that affect them.
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>>2873031
Beria was falling out of favor and was probably in line to be purged along with the rest of the remainders of the old guard (like Molotov). He had already been removed from the head of NKVD and was no longer needed for the atomic bomb project AND a lot of the soviet leadership hated his fucking guts (rightfully so).
Beria was probably doomed either way, but by killing the fuck he gave himself a chance.
This is of course assuming that Beria wasn't just claiming credit for circumstance which would not be out of character for him.
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>>2871089
The fact Franz Ferdinand was shot was a bit of a fluke (the rest of the assassins/the original polot failed and Princip happened to run into the Archduke's car after)

also, the fact it happened in an occupied region and...fucking Austria-Hungary.

On the other hand, you have a leader so paranoid he rarely did public appearance (Franz Ferdinand was in a drop-top car in the middle of a city ffs!), purged everyone remotely opposed to him, and built a police state that only North Korea can rival
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>>2872639
Get the gas
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>>2873057
>Leave it to the workers to decide how to organize their workplace

But they'll appoint a person who is corrupt and then lose everything.
Or they'll appoint a darn good leader, and then suddenly they don't run shit anymore.
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>>2873057
>Leave it to the workers to decide how to organize their workplace

Why are employee-owned companies present in free markets, but manager-owned companies banned in socialist environments?

Why is it that in a "capitalist country" like the USA, the Amish are allowed to live peacefully in their communes, but in socialist countries, private ownership, or in some cases, the use of money, banned?

Why is it that only when private ownership is allowed to thrive in "special economic zones" that these socialist economies actually work?
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>>2872469
>Soviets: loyalty or i'll fucken kill you
>NKorea: raised from birth to adore their leader as a supernatural being of cosmic superiority, the highest achievement would be to die for Dear Leader
You might want to read that last one again, the first one is comprehensible to a westerner, but the second seems a bit outlandish or extreme.
It's 100% true, there is indoctrination from the ground up, in the same way USA citizens only really learn their history, their geography, NKoreans only learn and hear about Dear Leader, all day every day. Not even a failed state, a death cult owned by a single family.
The people in that picture are sincere.
1984 was a good book, but NK made it work, putting down rebellions with weapons is primitive western shit, removing the possibility of thinking of dissent is pro-tier Asian.
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Stalin only made nine public appearances between 1939 and 1953, not counting the high-security meetings with allied leaders
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>>2873269
>Why is it that in a "capitalist country" like the USA, the Amish are allowed to live peacefully in their communes, but in socialist countries, private ownership, or in some cases, the use of money, banned?
Because in the USA the Amish attract few converts and are in no way a standing indictment of the prevailing system. If they were, or if they achieved wealth or influence, they'd be WACO'd by DEA agents.
Pretty much the same for the opposite case, successful alternatives are corrosive to the powers that be.
Socialist economies have to fight sanctions and embargoes as they face the same pressures on a global scale.
Strangely, the USA made Iraq into a de-facto socialist country with it's trade restrictions and punitive measures against anyone who traded with them. Still managed to spend 1.1 billion arming Hussein though.
Be rich and powerful, crush others and say they deserved it for being essentially inferior, same old same old.
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>>2873322
>they'd be WACO'd by DEA agents.

No they wouldn't.
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>>2873322
I guess you're right though, communist countries have to fight sanctions in the world market. But so does every country.
The point is, capitalism+state intervention is a shit show a la USSR, by your admittance.
But communism+state intervention fails in the same way.
So the best we can do in this discussion is hypothesize a world where states don't intervene and see what we have fundamentally.

Under capitalism, we have individuals negotiating trade on their own terms.
Under communism, it's forcibly arbitrated.
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>>2870817
He was paranoid as fuck. The only people he was willing to surround himself with were total sycophants who would never dream of backstabbing him, with the occasional sadist who he tolerated because he was too good at his job to kill (e.g., Beria). He very rarely made public appearances, and only then under tight security. If there were dissidents who managed to avoid the NKVD/MVD, they would probably be sold out by others, either out of fear of persecution by association or hopes of getting on Stalin's good side.
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>>2873320
He had a look alike to deliver speeches too.
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>>2871089
Stalin was mostly a threat to the bureaucratic elite. While he did send millions of normal people to prison camps, most common Soviet citizens also identified him with industrialization and, later, defense from the German onslaught. While Stalin was objectively a brutal killer, his constituents and their contemporary descendants take a far more nuanced view of his career than Westerners.

https://thestalinproject.org

Soviet citizens were legitimately bereaved when he died.
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>>2873015
Management isn't ownership

They're usually not identical even under capitalism
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>>2870817
But that's exactly what eventually happened.

The only people who he let close to him were usually ethnic Georgians who stood to gain from his regime and would be screwed without him.

Also he kept about a system where everyone suspected one another and nobody dared make a move or risk conspirating for fear the other person could dob them in and they'd be found out.
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>>2870866
>Le based commies :D
>Le based genocide
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>>2871102
that was because Stalin was awful at riding a horse - he WANTED to lead it and was very bitter towards Zhukov.
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>>2871044
>On top of that Stalin's cult of personality made it so that people couldn't really think of anyone else leading the country than old uncle Joseph.
This is exactly what pic related has been doing for the past 17 and a half years.

Most Russians seem to vote for him because 'there's nobody better', precisely because he and his cronies have long since eliminated them all
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>>2873099
>publically claiming credit for the murder of the head of a totalitarian state, one of the most brutal leaders in human history, who murdered anyone who opposed him and filled the top party ranks with those loyal to him
How could he POSSIBLY have thought this was a good idea?

Did everyone in Stalin's circle secretly hate him too? I would think the loyalists would be angry watching Beria gloat about murdering their God Emperor.
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He effectively killed himself by putting so much fear into his guards that when he finally had a stroke nobody went to check on him, because he didn't want to be disturbed
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>>2873322
>If they were, or if they achieved wealth or influence, they'd be WACO'd by DEA agents.
They migrated and settled land in the 1800s. It was long before that was even a issue.
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>>2873969
Here we are again
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>>2874141
>/leftypol/ 'humor'
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>>2873990
>eliminated them all
Like who?
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>>2873990
>Stalin's cult of personality made it so that people couldn't really think of anyone else leading the country
You think Stalin invented that?
Russians have always had an authoritarian government, remember the Romanov Dynasty that they had for a few hundred years? And ever since the they have resorted back to only have dictatorships.
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>>2874147
>You think Stalin invented that?
No, I'm saying the opposite. As you say, Russians have always had leaders acting this way.
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>>2874146
I can't remember any names, but it's widely accepted that Putin has been doing since the beginning. If you look it up, you'll find more than enough proof that it's true. Otherwise, you're just being difficult.
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>>2873990
But Putin did improve the economy and living standards. Russia was Somalia tier in the 90s.
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>>2874168
>guy asks for examples
>i dunno dude lmao just search it up urself or ur just being difficult xD!
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>>2873253
again ownership and management aren't the same thing. if the manager is corrupt the owners (workers) can force then out
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>>2870817

he had ways of controling people and selecting those who arent suicidal
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>>2873990
>implying there actually IS anybody better than Putin to lead Russia
He pretty much single-handedly got his country out of the gutter and made it a great power again, without ever turning full despot. Of course, he tried to disqualify any opposition, but to be fair, it's difficult to imagine said opposition doing a better job than he did.
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>>2871196
Owning a gun was always illegal in Russia but it never stopped anyone. Especially not post WW2.
We still have WW2 loot floating around and that's after a ton of disarming campaigns in the 90s.
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>>2874311
The entire region was having a massive economic recovery.

Putin just took credit for it so he could embezzle more money at the cost of the Russian populace.
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>>2874403
Now show Ukraine, Belarus, Uzbekistan, Moldova, Armenia, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and say that the entire region is recovering with a straight face again.
Sharpshooting stats is not an argument, whether you're right or not about the point of discussion.
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>>2874294
Certainly if you're managing the company you deserve extra compensation for your troubles but you get ousted by your angry underlings for being unfair so someone else steps up and certainly if they're managing the company they deserve extra compensation for their troubles....repeat until out of people able to effectively manage the company.
The former managers start their own companies and are now owners, workers get what they can take, stay jobless, or seize the means of production in a vicious cycle until the entire nation starves due to the tantrums of the unwashed workers.
Socialism is actually fantasy. The entire ideology is displacing one boss for another who's title is now manager and still makes more than you because being a mindless worker isn't a marketable skill? But it's okay because you and some other walking, talking assembly lines DECIDED who would be the new king? Does R E A L communism work on barter system? How is raising wages 400% going to help with goods being raised 1000%? It's like the perfect tool to progress your country straight back into the stoneage. Currency collapses, trade collapses, society collapses.
But it's okay.
Because they added a new breakroom.
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>>2873304
>The people in that picture are sincere.
That's not what genuine crying people look like
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>>2870817
Beria did.
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>>2874141
>collectivization
>efficient
yet private plots turned out to be more efficient than the collective farms
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>>2874433
Estonia is right next to Russia.

Unlike Russia, Estonia has no oil.

I could do all of the FSU states, you'll see the pattern in almost all of the European ones.
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>Putin
>efficient at anything other than maintaining his buddies in power and keeping Russia's vast resources from benefiting anyone else

vatniks plz go
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>>2874311
>>>>>great power again
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What's going on in this thread?
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>>2875881
nothing
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Stalin simply removed all the intelligentsia and party elites/ideologues who hated his guts for being an ordinary "Russian" once he was in the position to appoint people in the party. And who did he appoint in their place? Ordinary, poor people without education like himself who only wanted a decent standard of living. Stalin gave that to people and they would be fiercely devoted to him in the party. Ideologically straight bolsheviks were the last thing you'd find after Stalin was done.
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>>2876047
>Stalin simply removed all the intelligentsia and party elites/ideologues who hated his guts for being an ordinary "Russian" once he was in the position to appoint people in the party.
>"Russian"
>""
What did you mean by this? It was common knowledge that Stalin was Georgian.
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>>2870817
>Why did no one kill Stalin?

The Jews tried to do this, but failed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot
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>>2875824
literally 3 states out of the 15 constituents are doing well, and the pattern with them is that they were absorbed into the western sphere, russia was too big for that, Ukraine too important for russia for the west to tread on it(at least for a while) and the rest weren't interesting enough.
Your argument holds no water
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>>2876308
3 who are in europe*
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>>2873904
What's the evidence that Khrushchev killed Stalin? That theory seems to be the tankie equivalent to the stab-in-the-back myth
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>>2873969
Stalin wasn't responsible for any genocide. The Holodomor was exacerbated by political factors, but not man-made.
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>>2870817
Everyone loved him because he was a good guy.
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>>2876663
Adding to that, the gulag worked as an exacerbated prison, and only a bit more than a quarter of prisoners were politically motivated (leading to 4 million detained), and aprox. 800K were murdered, while 600K starved to death (most of them in the absolutely terrible years of 37-38).

The number of prisoners in Gulag total was 2 million on a regular basis. These numbers contrarrest in themselves the images of pure profanity that are fed regularly about the places. This is if the NKVD secret archives, analized by V. Kemskov are to be believed, which I personally do, given that the URSS was amongst all a bureocratic hellhole.

The moral conclusions from this data are up to you. I personally find it horrific.
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Russian Wikipedia has a whole page dedicated to Assassination attempts on Stalin ->

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/1707/were-there-any-attempts-to-assassinate-joseph-stalin
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>>2870817
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>2874311
>great power
no you dumb slav, you dominate the airwaves, that doesn't make you a great power.
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>>2872869
He was a fascist promoting a morally collect ideology (communism). Therefore, nothing is wrong with his form of fascism as it isn't based upon false constructs such as racial superiority.
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>>2873969
>le famine is genocide meme
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>>2879818
it's based on the false construct of equality though
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>>2873042
Not knowing if this guy is serious or not is why i love 4chan
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>>2872418
So was Nero.
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>>2872418
This is true, but it leaves out one of the reasons, which is that, whenever the Soviet government under Stalin did unpopular things, people other than Stalin took the fall for it. Kaganovich got the destruction of the Moscow Cathedral, Budyenniy was blamed for Barbarossa, and Voroshilov blamed for how many were lost in the Winter War. Yes, I'm sure everyone knew Stalin ran the government, but a lot of Stalin loyalists were willing to take the fall for him when his plans fell through.
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>>2880093
How did Barbarossa need justification?
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>>2880108
Because it was a major disaster for the Red Army; the Germans nearly took Moscow itself...

I don't mean blamed for it's happening, I mean blamed for the failure of the Soviet state to stop it quickly.
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>>2874141
The collective farms were less efficient you fucking retard. And the reason Homodomor is considered a genocide is because the Russians were exporting grain during a famine and allocating their foodstuffs to deliberately starve the citizens of specific Soviet Republics. Like the Ukraine. Because it was full of anti-russian nationalists. The also restricted movement to keep the starving farmers on their land, and denied aid from entering the affected regions. The famine wouldn't have been half as bad if it wasn't for the Marxists.
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>>2873322
>If they were, or if they achieved wealth or influence, they'd be WACO'd by DEA agents

The Catholic Church attracts converts, is a standing indictment of the prevailing system, and has both wealth and influence.

Why aren't they WACO'd? Because that's bullshit that's why.
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The fact that no regular civilian ever tried to kill Stalin is proof that he wasn't the cartoon villain (((they))) say he is.

Terror is never enough to maintain power in any society. Stalin's most evident personality traits, according to his contemporaries, was his humility.

Here is Stalin's bodyguard talking about Stalin's personality, filmed in the post-Soviet era, when he had no reason to fear Stalin or the Soviet Union.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bcmGnygysU

Legendary sci-fi writer H.G. Wells after interviewing Stalin:

>“I have never met a man more candid, fair and honest, and to these qualities it is, and to nothing occult and sinister, that he owes his tremendous undisputed ascendency in Russia. I had thought before I saw him that he might be where he was because men were afraid of him, but I realize that he owes his position to the fact that no one is afraid of him and everybody trusts him.”

https://mltheory.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/h-g-wells-on-joseph-stalin/

Just not possible to become the leader of hundreds of millions of people just by killing and arresting people. Stalin, Saddam, Assad, even Hitler had wide bases of popular support.
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>>2880963
>Implying that's actually Stalin
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>>2880963
well, that's it lads
seems like anon was right all along, a loyal bodyguard clearly proves all those death and murders fake, stalin was indeed a good guy regardless of the corpses
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>>2870817
Why shoot Stalin? Shooting Gorbachev would've been better.
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>>2880997
>muh 60 gorillion
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>>2880996
It's actually Stalin, just taken at an angle that makes his nose look smaller.
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>>2881039
He never said the hare-brained 60 million figure. Stalin killed people, and was popular at the same time, but that doesn't change that he had many people murdered for political and social reasons.
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>>2880963
There's also no reason to trust bodyguards, as I have seen from Castro's, who's book is so full of shit it's unbelievable. Also, there's no reason to eulogize him.
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>>2881078

I think it was worth it. For the average Soviet citizen, life saw a qualitative change under Stalin. When Stalin assumed control, Russia was very poor, technologically backwards, and internally divided. When Stalin died, Russia had become a modern state and a superpower, despite suffering catastrophic losses in WW2.
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>>2881015
fucking this
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>>2880963
>>2880997
Just because he talks softly doesn't mean he isn't carrying a big stick.
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>>2881161
correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation
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>>2881215
Usually Stalin is blamed for every single woe in the URSS, even drawing an image of the whole thing when he only ruled for the half of its history. Why can't he be responsible for the advancements of Soviet life?
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>>2881078
Also, who was killed? There were many groups:

1. Reactionary aristocrats who wanted to maintain feudalism.

2. Kulaks who wanted to maintain psuedo-feudalism

3. Jewish nationalists and later Zionists who wanted Jewish control of the Soviet Union

4. Spies, saboteurs, wreckers who wanted to retard the Soviet Union's growth

5. Genocidal German supremacists who wanted to eradicate the Soviet people

Of course many innocent people suffered. But those who killed the innocent were themselves later killed by Stalin (Ezhov, Yagoda).
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>>2872418
Yes comrade, our leader is great now Shut up the thread is over
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>>2880108
Because incompetent Soviet leadership, Stalin's reluctance to address the German threat and purges replacing actual commanders with cronies made Barbarossa much worse on the Russians than it had to be.
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>>2881507

Right until June 22, Stalin was convinced that an anti-capitalist alliance could be formed with Hitler, since they had the same enemies in international capital. Such an alliance would have been totally unstoppable.
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Who's your favorite member of Stalin's inner circle?
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>>2879818
>Brutal totalitarianism is justifiable if it's not racist

How the fuck can /leftypol/ even defend this anymore?
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>>2881530
Stalin willfully ignored intelligence from both the allies and his own spies that informed him of the German invasion months in advance. He was more conference about loyality and "bonapartists" in the red army that he executed his generals and forced his commisar lackies to keep tabs on the military. Even as the Germans invaded he forbade his troops from defending themselves because he was convinced it was "a pro war German provocatuer" and not the actual German military. I agree that a Russo-German Alliance would have been unstoppable, but had literally anyone else been the leader of the Soviet union I doubt eleven million Russian troops would have perished in the war.
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>>2881650

Zhdanov was killed by International Jewry in the Doctor's Plot. Soon after they killed Stalin as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot

Vosnesyensky was also the victim of Jewish conspiracy. After his execution, Stalin became much more anti-semitic and suspicious of Jews
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>>2881706
>I doubt eleven million Russian troops would have perished in the war.
They wouldn't have perished if Hitler had treated them Humanely.
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>>2881692
>Brutal totalitarianism

I hope you are not using western liberal regimes as a bar for what you consider to be "totalitarian".
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>>2881692
Every society is brutal and totalitarian for those who aren't wealthy
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>>2881736
Zhdanov was a chronic alcoholic who drank himself to death. He drank so bad even Stalin yelled at him over it.

As for Vosneysensky he was the victim of Beria and Malenkov, neither of whom were Jewish

Course this is a DA J0000Z post so I doubt you care about real history
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>>2870817
>Why did no one kill Stalin?
Because the vast majority of people are too chickenshit to do anything on their own.

The only people who get assassinated are those who are the subject of a coup (Caesar) or some random nutter (Kennedy). Stalin had both those types on lockdown and defanged.
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>>2871089
Franz Ferdinand was visiting a somewhat hostile country.
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>>2873015
no.
Coops exist to this day without any major problems you know.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/magazine/who-needs-a-boss.html
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Salin was assasinated. How new are you?
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>>2874281
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3680491/alexander-litvinenko-ex-kgb-agents-death-by-polonium-210-leaves-long-trail/?cs=5
this guy
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>>2871102
>put a random guy with a sniper on any building near the Kremlin
>wait for Stalin to show up for a few seconds
>kill
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>>2881322
In 1928, the local OGPU arrested a group of engineers (including Peter Palchinsky, Nikolai von Meck and A. F. Velichko)[4] in the North Caucasus town of Shakhty, accusing them of conspiring with former owners of coal mines (living abroad and barred from the Soviet Union since the Revolution) to sabotage the Soviet economy. The architect of these arrests and interrogations was Efim Georgievich Evdokimov. Technically retired from the OGPU in 1931, he would later lead a secret police team within the NKVD itself.

The Shakhty trials marked the beginning of a long series of accusations against class enemies within the Soviet Union, and was to become a hallmark of the Great Purge of the 1930s. On March 10, 1928, in response to the arrests, Pravda announced that the bourgeoisie were using sabotage as a method of class struggle[citation needed]. Joseph Stalin mentioned a month later that the Shakhty arrests proved that class struggle was intensifying as the Soviet Union moved closer to socialism[citation needed].
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>>2882004

>4. Spies, saboteurs, wreckers who wanted to retard the Soviet Union's growth
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>>2876654
That's a picture of Beria not Khrushchev you dumb fucking retarded mongoloid American
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>>2870817
Stalin was quicker
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>>2876663
>>2879900
>>2879625
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>>2881161

fixed your iimage
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>>2881994
He wasn't a political alternative to Putin though.
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>>2881884

Objectively false.
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>>2873448
Lol life expentency dropped significantly in the years after the fall of the USSR. Free markets are a myth buddy. Like they don't exist anywhere, and less regulated markets (e.g. us healthcare) underperform regulated ones (e.g. healthcare in every other industrialized nation's). Read a book.
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>>2873304
You're telling me all those people fleeing North Korea (including the 30,000 that fled in this year alone) are actually spies?

Almost everything we see coming out of that country is state propaganda. There are definitely many who are truly loyal, but we don't know how many are for sure.

When the state TV news lady says cry, you fuckin' cry.
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>>2883110
>Free markets are a myth buddy

dumbest statement ever
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>>2882498
Fucking obviously.

Beria was a Stalin loyalist until the day Khrushchev and Malenkov ordered his execution. The post referenced the closeness of ethnic Georgians like Beria to Stalin while also suggesting Stalin was killed by a non-Georgian.

There's nothing worse than people who know a tiny bit about a subject and think they're experts.
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>>2883099
American society is totalitarian. Your boss has near full control over your life. If you resist, you get fired. If you choose not to work, you starve.
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>>2881884
>>2884114

t. baby who just read Chomsky for the first time
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