How can anyone who's not in power himself support and defend

>>2870132
>who's not in power himself
It doesn't make sense to support it even IF you're the one in power. The cycle of failed states won't end with the slaves rebelling against the masters, it will end with the masters rebelling against the slaves.

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>>2870132
How can anyone who's not in power himself support and defend governments? Don't their realize it's the ultimate cuckery, depriving themselves voluntary of liberty and rights?

>>2870145
That's why night-watchman states are the best solution

>>2870132
>>2870140
>>2870145
word salad thread? word salad thread.

wherever there is authority, liberty cannot thrive. Only a true son of uncucked freedom can support themselves to power.

So long as I can live my life in a way favorable to me, my family and friends I don't care about petty bread and circuses like voting and supposed representative officials (who in truth represent their lobbyists).

>>2870132
The stupid mass. Yes. I called it. The mass are fucking stupid. They don't want to hear it, but they need to hear it.


Of the non-mass, they're blinded by ideology, greed, power, etc.

>>2870132
>cuckery
teenposting at its best, /b/ calls lad, go join your friends.

>>2870163
>I don't care about petty bread and circuses like voting
That's exactly the kind of attitude that helps autocracies arise

>>2870183
Universal sufferage has destroyed all value of the vote.

>>2870187
No it didn't, you're just making excuses

>>2870192
Still. I would prefer a long line of enlightened despots who maximize the quality of life for me and my family over liberal republicanism. And I would sacrifice civil liberties I never use anyway for it.

>>2870132
Because the masses are ignorant fools and shouldn't have a role in government.

Because democracy and liberty aren't the same thing and in fact have nothing to do with each other.

Because universal suffrage is a cancer that all but guarantees the rapid demise of the society stupid enough to adopt it.

Because in a democracy he who controls the demography of the voting base, through immigration, emigration, and propaganda controls the society. Its no more free then a dictatorship. If anything it is more deadly, because it is more subtle.

>>2870132
Self-interest is literally a Marxist meme. It doesn't exist in reality, only collective interest.

>>2870222
>Promoting collectivism in the same breath as condemning Marxism

No.

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>>2870227
>Marxism
>collectivist
"Kill your masters so you can have more stuff" is the main tenet of Marxism and the pinnacle of selfishness.

>>2870210
too bad "a long line of enlightened despots who maximize the quality of life for me and my family" is impossible.

Still I'm almost inclined to agree with you when I get a jury summons, all that waiting around just to mention jury nullification and get dismissed. 4 days before I was questioned one time.

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>>2870231
Individual/Collectivism is a different metric then selfishness/selflessness.

>>2870239
It boils down to people who view society as a living organism, and those whose ideology is a virus wanting to destroy said organism and think heart can function without living brain or vice versa.

>>2870246
No, it boils down to those who recognize that self-interest and group-interest can and must coincide, that law and liberty are both necessary, and that socialists are swine that should be thrown into the ocean.

Saying "Fuck those Marxist Individualists" is like saying "Fuck those Muslim Atheists."

Its a contradiction in terms.

>>2870231
>>2870246
imagine being this much of a mystic bootlicker kek

>>2870285
Nietzschean faggots out