Haratins

>>2869397
>are black Americans and Blatinos their western analogs?

Not even just analogs, they are racially closely related as well as sharing a history of enslavement. As to their contributions to history, they have been slight to say the least. They're not even the dominant group in Mauretania despite being the majority there.

>>2869419
Mauritanians president doesn't look 100% Arab.

>>2869433

You can be black and Mauritanian without being a haratin, there are plenty of free blacks living there.

>>2869444
I thought haratin was more an ethnic descriptor at this point.

>>2869419
Not really

African Americans are mostly Congolese and Nigerian

>>2869470

Are you claiming Nigerians aren't related to other Bantu West Africans?

>>2869449

Sure but not all blacks are haratins. You're only haratin if you're descended from slaves.

>>2869470
Black Americans are an ethnic mix of Africans and Anglos, where as haratins are an ethnic mix of black Africans and Arabs, so they are similar especially considering they come from essentially the same African stock.

>>2869444
Bidan are White Moors, your claim to Bidan as a title comes from your father so you can be black as Wesley Snipes and be Bidan
>>2869397
She is not a serf, she is a "Noble" caste Tuareg. Not "Bella".

Haratin are not homogenous. Many are indigenous to their area (like Inaden) some descend from Slaves. A Haratin first and foremost are vassals, Agricultural people who aligned with Noble castes by will or force in exchange for protection and trade.

They are Arabized black Berbers and/or Soninke/Mande/Wolof/Peul/etc... peoples with long or short assimilative histories with nobles.

>>2869512
There's no Bantu people in West Africa
>>2869527
Eh, not quite

The presence of senegambian speaking peoples was grossly overestimated in previous decades

>>2869881
The same areas that sourced the Americas with slaves also sourced/sources the Sahel with slaves.

>>2869895
Nope

The great majority of American slaves were from the forests of Guinea and Congo

North African slaves were mostly pagan savanna/steppe tribes

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>>2869921
The majority of North American slaves came from a conglomeration of coastal west African nations from Senegal down to Cameroon. Brazil, whom imported far more slaves got theirs principally from coastal Angola and Congo. Far inland jungle people were principally claimed by Chadic and other adjacent people's out of convenience. What's your agenda? This info is widely available and easy to look up.

>>2869921
Please name these savahnna steppe tribes that exist in a vacuum in such a ethnically complex region.

>>2870159
You realize everything from Guinea to Angola is jungle, right?
>>2870199
Ahem

>Soninke
>Hausa
>Mossi
>Dogon
>Zarma
>Bozo
>Senufo
>Gurunsi
>Gurma
>Wolof
>Lebu
>Serer
>Bambara

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>>2870261
Is something wrong?

>>2870270

Your claim
>everything from Guinea to Angola is jungle

Is proven false by your own image. Good work, moron.

>>2870278
Retard alert

Many tracts were deforested in the 20th century

>>2870303
>Retard alert

It's okay, we already know you're ITT.

>>2870256
Like I said both ethnic groups come from the same source as far as their black genetics are concerned. West Africa. If anything black Americans roots are more coastal in nature, but generally speaking they come from the same general goup(s) of people. Trying to put up arbitrary divides in this circumstance is the epitome of splitting hairs. Again, what is your agenda?

Angola and south central Africa mostly supplied South America, if that is what you are trying to argue, but even then the ethnic correlations are close.

I can understand when people say black Americans and Semites/East Africans aren't closely related, but suggesting they are not literal ethnic cousins to haratins is disingenuous.

>>2869397
They are the descendants of slaves who were kept in Africa rather than being sold off to help develop the new world.

>>2870322
Because by and large they aren't. Guineans are genetically distinct from Western Sudanese. That's like saying Finns and the Irish are the same because they're both in Northern Europe.

>>2870580
But Guinea is a Sahel border region, and is only one of many west African nations that is the source of black genetics for both haratins and their American counterparts. Western Sudanese are fairly removed from the equation and blend more with nilo-Saharan and Chadic people.

>>2870763
>Sahel border
No, the west sudanian savanna is between the sahel and guinea

>>2870580
There black genetics come from nearly identical sources. That is a fairly basic fact.

>>2870765
Why are you bringing Sudan into the convo?

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>>2870765
What is your agenda? This stuff is easy to look up.

>>2870767
>there
Fuck off ESL. There's greater genetic diversity south of the Sahara than outside it.
>>2870769
>I don't know geographical terms
>>2870777
You can't be serious

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>>2870785
Haratins like their girls THICC and wear gaudy jewelry, are these just circumstantial similarities to Americans or is there an underlying genetic/cultural basis to it.

>>2870316
Bump

>>2870857
I guess Chavs and Cholos are North African now