>yfw rome finally fell

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>>2865123

>>2865123
>Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi

Holy fuck this guy's name is retarded

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>>2865123

>>2865123
Thank goodness you're here Doctor, Kira's in the Infirmary with a weird Bajoran disease.

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>>2865123

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>>2865123

>>2865174
>>2865217

>you realize the majority of dumb whiteys idolizing the Romans had their ancestors raped, enslaved and tortured by the Romans for centuries

What a load of dumb cucks Europeans are.

>>2866813
>>you realize the majority of dumb whiteys idolizing the Romans had their ancestors raped, enslaved and tortured by the Romans for centuries
maybe if you were western European.

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>>2866813
>tfw Italian

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>>2865174

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>>2866990
>Romans didn't rape, enslave and torture other people in the Italic peninsula

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>>2865123
>watch one of the 60s epic movies set in Rome
>centurion becomes disillusioned with Rome
>walks away stating "no Rome is finished"
>his companions mock him "we control all of north Africa and Gaul and dont forget Britannia..."
>narrator in heavy American accent "he was right in 400 years Rome would Fall"
WOW HE SURE SHOWED THEM

>>2867128
>Rome would fall
never understood why they always ignored the ERE. It went on for 1000 years more

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>>2867138
Edward Gibbon is the father of western historiographical tradition so his weird hang-ups about the eastern Empire sort of infected everyone who came after him.

Nowadays people are kind of growing out of it though. Most journals I edit use "medieval Roman Empire" instead of "Byzantine Empire" now.

>>2867143
Byzantine armor is heavily underrated
It's a good mixture of style and substance

>>2867143
That's pretty cool looking. I wish byzantine aesthethics were more proudly displayed. I haven't seen much of it but I can't help but think it inspired in great many ways later Ottoman arab aesthethics.

>>2867138
>Didn't control Rome
>Roman

>>2867201
you should be banned for this post

>>2867201
so did the Romans stop being Roman when Emperor Constantine switched the capital to Constantinople?

>>2867201
What about the 200 years they did control Rome for?

>>2867138
>Eastern """Roman""" Empire
>literally LARPing Greeks
I guess the Ottomans were Romans too, since the Sultan called himself Kayser in Rum?

>>2867063
doesn't matter. Italians will always be proud of Roman blood flowing through their veins. Raping, enslaving, and torturing didn't come out just with the Romans, so better to have a great great grand mother raped by a legionary than by a filthy barbarian

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>>2867234
The Roman Empire in the medieval period was the exact same state that had been founded in ancient times. The Ottoman Empire was a completely different political entity hundreds of miles away that had been founded under completely different circumstances and had a completely different culture.

>>2867209
agree.

this >>2867201 behaviour shouldn't be allowed on a serious board

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>>2867234
*sigh*

twats like you kill /his/

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>>2865123

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>>2866813
>we wuz africans n shiiet das rite

>>2865123
Based Siddig. Best Hannibal

>>2867254
>conveniently forgetting the complete annihilation of the western roman empire and the massive migration of northern and eastern barbarians into the italian peninsula

>>2867652
There were around over ten million people in Italy in the 5th century. A few tribal immigrations isn't going to change their genetics significantly.

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>>2865123

>>2867661
This. People seriously underestimate that amount of time and effort it takes to completely breed out a local population.

Egyptians have been dealing with arabs for almost a thousand years and they are still genetically very closely related to ancient Egyptians.

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>>2865123

>>2867652
I used to think this but then I did some actual research and found out the barbarians didn't even made a dent on most of Italy's genetic makeup.

>>2866813
The Romans imposed civilisation on a wild and barbarous Europe and we were better off for it.