Who was the most effective commie killer in world history?

>>2859432
Ironically enough Stalin and Mao.

True communists have never been killed.

>Porky's shoe shiner tries to act tough

>>2859487
But anon, commies are also porkies.

>>2859432
Based.

>>2859443
This is the true answer.

>>2859443
/thread/

>>2859443
fpbp

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>>2859487
>t.

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>>2859443

Why are /pol/yps and "libertarians" obsessed with LARPing about "killing commies"? Communism is completely fucking irrelevant and has been for almost 30 years.

>>2860024
>Communism is irrelevant
>College campuses are filled with communists
>Tens of thousands communists riot in Paris Athens and other european cities

Yeah no. Nice try rabbi

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>>2860024
>Communism is completely fucking irrel-

>>2859443
Why is that ironic? They weren't true communists.

>>2859547
He actually said "killing enemies" but that's more or less what he meant anyway.
Other cool facts about him: when he was fighting in Yemen his unit encountered the base of Soviet "advisors" and emptied his gun on them out of revenge.
In Kongo he (and other anti-communist mercenaries) fought and successfully defeated Che Guevara who had to escape to Bolivia when he was killed (and one of the guys who caught him was one of the survivors from the Bay of Pigs).

People focus on the famous "rebel" photo and his last words and don't even notice that the karma got him hard.

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>>2859699
>t.

>>2860304
>If you aren't a commie, you're a nazi!
Classic /leftypol

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>>2859432
This based man.

>>2859443
>>2860324
this

>>2860134

>social democrat proposing a modest welfare state within a market economy
>communist

I'll finish that -evant.

>>2860410
Not communist but definitely socialist. So not murderous but still retarded economic policy. Starvation-tier.

>>2860410
>social democrats
>not all fabians or gradualists in disguise

nice try /leftypol/

>>2860410
>>social democrat proposing a modest welfare state within a market economy
I posted bernie not hillary

>>2860024
I'm an adult who's gone back into academia and Communism is literally everywhere, it's extremely popular and on the rise, it will return if we don't do something.

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DEEDS THAT ECHO FROM THE PAST
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>>2860418
as retarded as this?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40023720
>White House denies 'egregious' budget accounting error

>Former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers pointed out the spending plan double-counts $2tr
>The budget forecasts about $2tr in extra federal revenue growth over the next 10 years, which it uses to pay for Mr Trump's "biggest tax cut in history".
>But that very same $2tr is then used to reduce the budget deficit.
>"My observation is that there appears to be a logical error of the kind that would justify failing a student in an introductory economics course," Mr Summers wrote.

>>2860437
Communism won't overtake the world. They had a chance in 1920 which they lost in Warsaw then after WWII around 60s when it was big among western intelectuals who didn't know any better.

>>2860476
Natural progression from Bush and Obama's years. You won't have another president like Coolidge. And to think that American constitution implies that the Congress has the superior position over the president.

>>2860036
>>2860134
>>2860437
>retards can't tell the difference between communism and socialism episode
jeesh
relatively tame socialism at that

>>2860145
Even your gay ad hom memes need to photoshop nazi shit onto people who aren't even Nazis to make us look bad lol

>>2860500
durrrrrrrr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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>>2860509
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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>>2859432
>furiously masturbating over the thought of killing people
>on a Kowloon illegal noodle smuggling forum, no less
How sad is your life?
>inb4 communists aren't people XDDD

>>2860437
I go to a liberal arts school and haven't heard anything praising the USSR or Mao. I've heard Marx mentioned twice but not in praise of communism.

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>>2860539

>>2860554
Original.

>>2860554
snek

>>2860437
Thats because if you go for PHD, you are already a commie.
Unless you make money of patents, which in case its a place where you have a small army of grunts if you want to.

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I'm only pro identity politics when it comes to excluding socialists and commies from society.

simo hayha, a finlandian nixknamed white death by red army, served in wwii as a snip-...

>>2860500
My classmates are quite literally labelling themselves as marxists and communists.
>>2860545
They don't praise those, they won't, they just keep saying we need to do communist again, it hasn't been tried, it will work next time blah blah

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>When you got 168 confirmed tanks kills and possible 195 kills, gave credit to others when the kill was disputed, but you never get your knight's cross or get promoted past Feldwebel because you disrespect your superiors or in some cases straight up attack officers mistreating Soviet POWs

"Always with those negative waves, Hans!"

>>2860222
Commies just focus on his death and don't even notice that karma got the commies hard. All of their countries turned out to be shit.

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>"The Boss gives me a medal for every one hundred thousand comrades I put under the soil."

>>2860036
>>2860134
>>2860437
>>2860656
The presence of communism in academia is your own goddamned fault for accusing every policy and everybody you didn't like of communism for over half a century. It is a classic cry wolf scenario people think "Well the republicans said that preventing companies from dumping radioactive Ebola into the river was communism, so I guess communism must be all right!" or "Hey, conservatives said that anti-racism was communism and I believe in equal rights. So I must be a communist!". Its the same thing that's happening today with accusing people of being racist or fascist, it looses its sting and people begin adopting the labels thrown at them.

You made your bed, now you get to sleep in it.

>>2859432
I don't know, but whoever he was, he was certainly a commie.

>>2860437
Are they tankies? If they aren't, I'm down for it.

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>>2859432
Probably Hitler

Didn't work out too good for him tho

>>2860463
I like how they don't make any mention of his SS service in that song because it would trigger people

>>2859443
>Ironically enough Stalin

One and done.

Nice.

>>2859432
based

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>>2860500
T-t-t-they are just socialists!

>>2860723
Is this a /pol/ false flag?

>>2860554

Fuck off back to fashbook

Why is Poland so based?

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>>2860304

>>2860938
>unironic use of the word 'fast'

reddit colonisation is real

>>2861237
fash* fucking autocorrect

>>2860946
>triggers both wehraboos and vatniks
>no muslims
hard to not like desu

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Israel

>>2860748
>into Germany and USA
They kinda do, but don't explicitly mention Nazis. And that's not why dumbass, they have plenty of songs from the g*rman perspective (ghost division/hearts of iron comes to mind)

>>2860685
*sips coke"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965–1966

Killing communists is justified because as an ideology that stands upon the concept of revolutionary war, it declares war to society by its mere existence, and in a war you kill your enemies. The communist is an enemy of any anti-communist or non-communist, therefore he deserves to be killed.

Also, a communist is not only those who join communist parties and use the hammer and sickle symbology. Communism, as defined by Gramsci, the most influential communist philosopher since Marx, is the collective of the activist intelligentsia. Every left-wing activist intellectual is a communist, and therefore should me killed.

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>>2861614
A Jewish filmmaker made a movie about these Indonesian killings of communists. It was supposed to make me feel bad, to make me feel sad that all those communist died.

It only managed to make me glad that at least a country in the world manage to cleanse itself from the plague.

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>>2859432
I was about to complain how there's no t-shirt with Gan-Ganowicz (similar to Che Guevara t-shirt which is appropriate because they fought against each other) but there is. He really deserves to be an anti-communist symbol especially if you know what he said about it in his book.

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>>2861855
So you know that's based on a real photo.

>>2859432
Rockers killed the USSR.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4

>>2861614
I'd kill a lot of innocent people for a job that involved wearing that hat.

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>>2859443

>>2860922
>CPGB-ML
lel. Bad example, t---b---h
Those loons won't get anywhere. They are infamous for being sectarian.

>>2861858
You're talking about rock'n'roll revolution in the 80s USSR?

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>>2861858
>>2861873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=551_hC414UY

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>>2860539
Communists aren't people, though.

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>>2860145
Ok, line up for your mass graving faggot.

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>>2861972

>>2861855
Mike Hoare would also work anyone know about him?

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>>2861978
I legit hope every poor socialist dies of starvation.
I know a revolution will never happen in America. Because pinko faggots are vegans who never work out or own guns.

I kinda hope they start an armed revolution, killing them and throwing their lifeless bodies into mass graves would be pure justice.

slavers and thieves are a clear and present danger who deserve death.

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This guy.

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History that every European should know. Bros from Poland and Baltic countries know about it.
WWII didn't just stop in 1945 in those parts. There was an actual anti-communist uprising that involved thousands of people. In Poland there were cursed soldiers and in Baltic countries there were forrest brothers. Lots of cool characters and stories. Basically wild west (or east). In the early stages of the uprising they were preparing the ground for WWIII, defending villagers, freeing political prisoners etc. Later they fought for a soldier's death. The last cursed soldier was killed in 1963 and forrest brother in 1978.

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Was she effective in commie-destroying?

>>2859547
>t*rkroach
>based

>>2860430
every political commentary in europe talked about how bernie was considered a hardcore socialist in US, while he would fit into most centre parties here.

>>2862044
>Ogień
Wew lad. Time to translate.

In the autumn 1944, with the support of Popular Alliance's local command [that was a peasant party, socially conservative for the most part], he began cooperation with People's Army [Soviet-Polish resistance movement created through a bunch of commisars paradropped to Poland from USSR] and Soviet partisans. (Including propaganda actions against his former comrades from Home Army [London-supported faction], accusing them of working with Gestapo against Soviets) and acknowleged KRN [puppet parliment created by Soviets]. 1 December 1944, he delivered unto hands of Isaac Gutman [literally fucking Shlomo Sheckelstein] a declaration of support for People's Army and PKWN [also soviet organ] and subordianted his military unit to him.

In January 1945, he was a guide for Soviet Army, capturing Nowy Targ. Shortly after, he was assigned to create local structures of police and joined the UB [communist political police]. Only after he was fired from the post of local leader of said UB, he deserted, took on a title of major (he was never given it, neither in AK, nor in UB) and declared himself to be an anti-communist.

In December 1945, his men hanged pregnant Katarzyna Kościeliska for calling Kuraś "a bandit" in a conversation with her neighbour.

In Gorce, he was supposed to call women from a list and raped them.

He exhibited "an unordinary sexual drive"

Director of Slovak Historical Institute, Ľubomír Ďurina said "We have numerous testimonies of people fleeing from Spisz and Orawa to Czechoslovakia, escaping Kuraś' men. They told the Czechsolovak security services about the motives of their escape. These testimonies are ones of rape, pillage and murder."

In 1990, a union of AK veterans issued a statement saying: "We have nothing in common with "Ogień", nor his posthumuses. We believe, that instead of celebrating Kuraś, there should be a mass in the name of his vitcims, numbering 430."

True hero, la'

>>2862804
It's an awesome pic and an awesome origin story for his nickname. Besides the documentary from the 90s featuring people still remembering these events (including one communist officer) convinced me that he can acquited from at least some of these supposed crimes. Like the hanging. He killed those who did this. Something communists chasing him wouldn't tell. Perhaps there are "cursed" who were absolutely perfect and there's no controversy surrounding them but I liked the picture.

>>2861913
Peak of comedy. Original, too.

>>2862827
I purposefully did not include his anti-semitism, which could have been both:
>exaggerated by communists to make him look even worse than he was IRL.
>just considered as him killing communists, which is "understandable"

What doesn't change is that there is just a short step from being a partisan, to being a bandit. Ogień was an opportunitist, who knowingly joined an enforcement organ of communist regime. He did not resign from his post, he was removed. I hate current political revisionism, where everyone who opposed communists is hailed as a hero, while in the meantime, memorials of Red Army Soldiers are being removed.

The role of these "cursed" was insignificant. Their sacrifice, volountary. Have they done anything that actually helped Poland? No, they did not. These who have been in NSZ all along haven't joined the united front against Nazism back in 1940 and 1942. Those who were in AK beforehand did not subordiante to the order of Supreme Leader, who prohibited undertaking any actions against Red Army.

There surely have been ones that deserve some commemoration. Just like soviet soldiers, just like nazi soldiers, who died an awful death during the meatgrinder, that was WW2. Pilecki surely does, even though he plead guilty to the charges he was executed for later. But there also have been people like Ogień, people like Bury, people like Szary, who murdered civillians, who shot people that took part in the agrarian reform. I can't accept these people being commemorated, especially at the expense of
common men who died expelling Nazi occupiers from my country.

People who support that try to erase parts of history from common memory, just like communists tried to do with AK and post-war partisans. Fact is, communists who fought in Spain, AL partisans, socialist revolutionaries of 1800s were just as much Polish as the ones who fought against communists in 1945. Difference is just what Poland they believed in.

They're all diamonds.

>>2862901
>while in the meantime, memorials of Red Army Soldiers are being removed.
rightfully so

>>2862901
All debatable. Anti-communist uprising did a lot of good and still to this day causes major butthurt which is all good.

There is NO place for relativism. We can't say that "ok let's agree that there were crimes commited by both sides." No, there were people who either supported or opposed foreign tyranny. The rest is all personal history of each person but of course you'd have to investiage each case of thousands of people living in the woods and fighting for more than a decade. I understand why people who are rather lenient towards communism would rather focus on singular cases of war criminals which is what no one ever does about any other campaign by against the aggressor. Not that western allies didn't commit any. But no one ever requires you to mention them every time you talk about D-Day or Anzio. Or in case for Poland - September/October 1939. Whenever there's a discussion about I don't see the obligatory discussion about general Rómmel who left his soldiers to die alone.
This is something that Zychowicz laughed about. That you need to mention Bury the one partisan who we know was responsible for crimes against civilians (I'm talking about the major units I know he wasn't the only one). And he wrote about him as well. A lot of harsh truths.
Ogień and Łupaszko are ambiguous cases no matter how hard they try.

communism, what else?

>>2862946
All major ones have been removed. Soon there will be only cemetaries left. Which is fine I guess there are some cemetaries for all nationalities in Poland including Germans.

Anti-communist insurgents were doing good work. Communist sympathizers can't stand it. Trying to make it seem like a morally gray destructive conflict is their last line of defense.

>>2862965
im fine with cemeteries, any and every soldier killed in action deserves some peace. just don't put up statues and monuments representing them as "liberators", when they were just another foreign oppressor who killed your countrymen, raped and pillaged your people on their journey to Berlin. Why honor someone who invaded your country and occupied it for 40 years? Because they kicked out an oppresive regime and installed their own?

>>2862015
based

>>2862946
>>2862987
Why would you remove memorials of common soldiers who died in fight against Nazism? It's not thanksgiving for communism, it's commemoration of those fallen under orders of their superiors.

>>2862952
What good came from said uprising? Death of civillians?

>We can't say that "ok let's agree that there were crimes commited by both sides."

Why? It happened both ways. Łupaszko was as bad as Cień. Does it bother you, that people on your side of the political spectrum were criminals as well? What you argue for is collective responsibility for the actions of an entire movement, including:

In case of AL
>Stupid boys, who joined them because they just wanted to shoot some Germans and drop leaflets, instead of patiently waiting in the ranks of AK.

In the case of the collective anti-communist movement
>Murderers, who killed 200 Ukrainians for some vague revenge in Wierzchowiny.

>No, there were people who either supported or opposed foreign tyranny.
UPA also opposed foreign tyranny, but no one here considers them heroes. There were good and bad people on both sides and not everyone's moral obligation is to be fighting for your exact ideology. You can hate the Soviets for whatever exactly crimes they did, but you cannot condemn every single man who decided that Soviet Union was a lesser evil than Nazi Germany. Even the NSZ at one point considered Germans as a lesser evil and ceased fighting against them (Brygada Świętokrzyska). It's all fun and easy discussing the moral perspective from an armchair in a democratic Poland, but hindsight is always 20/20. For most common folk, Germans were the opressor, while you are talking about all of this, knowing about Katyń, GULag, UB, etc. These men, who joined Berling Army or AL back then, only to fight against the evil they knew might have been useful idiots, but you have no right to condemn them.

>>2863111
cont.

However, you can still (perhaps even should, but that is a matter of perspective), those who installed totalitarian system, who were in UB, the high ranks of PPR, the executioners. What you do now, is exactly what communist did. Bend the pubic perception of history to your own liking. Switch the NSZ and AL around. The national movement needs their heroes, and they do it on expense of everyone else.

Either way, at least here you can actually discuss history in a decent manner, instead of usual /his/ memespouting.

Also, a question. Do you consider the decision to start a Warsaw Uprising justified? Do you think it did as much good as the NSZ fight after 1944?

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>>2859443
10/10

>>2860418
>retarded economic policy
Works fine in Yurops

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>>2860410
>>2860500
>>2860723

>>2863371
>Works fine in Yurops
look at the growth rates and if you want a comparison between big government and small government and its infuence on two comparable countries, take France and Germany.
>muh Scandinavia
more like Sweden, a country that profited from WWII almost as much as Switzerland.

>>2863111
>What good came from said uprising? Death of civillians?
it was a message to the west that a fight for democracy was occuring in occupied Poland, they also knew that they would be painted as collaborators by the communists if they allowed the communists to take Warsaw

also
>On July 27, 1944, Adolf Hitler ordered the Festung Warschau to be created and defended at all cost. The same day the governor of the General Government, Hans Frank, called for 100,000 Polish men between the ages of 17–65 to arrive at several gathering places in Warsaw the following day.
>Fearing that the city would be turned into ruins and share the fate of Stalingrad and Kiev, General Tadeusz Bór-Komorowski ordered Operation Tempest to be started in Warsaw

as soldiers fighting for a free Poland they had no other option, they couldnt sit anymore they were at a crossroads

>>2863133
>>2863772
>Also, a question. Do you consider the decision to start a Warsaw Uprising justified?
Yes, it was either fight the Germans (who wanted to exterminate your people/culture/country) or be conscripted by the Germans and fight the Soviets (who wanted to make you their commie puppet)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festung_Warschau

>>2859432
It would make sense if those he "killed" were actualy communists and not Baathists fighting against Saudi king that payed him.

>>2860410
>Couldn't stop gushing over how great various communist groups were until he had to run for an office higher than mayor of Burlington (shithole)
>Flew a communist flag in his office
>Lost his first wife in a matter of weeks by being obnoxious about communism and refusing to get a job (jej)
>Did the same with all his friends
>Goes into a mouth frothing rage when he has to deal with conservatives
>Not a communist

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>>2861310

>>2860145
Get out.

You can literally make this quote for any ideology ever

>I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed nazis
>I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed jews
>I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed germans
>I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed poles

etc. etc.

>>2864701
except his quote is real and you're just assmad

>>2864701
Except communists aren't people.

>>2859432
Hunger :^)

>>2864706
don't care about communists it's just basic dehumanisation against enemies, it exists in every ideology

>>2864763
>communists
>people
pick one

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Blokhin
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria

>>2864763

>Communists
>"""dehumanisation"""

Gommies deserve nothing but death 2bh.

>>2859432
Close call between Stalin and Mao.

>>2859432
That guy worked for Saudi Muslim fundamentalists btw

>>2860554
https://youtu.be/KpJCWlvvaEs

>being a pawn for billionaires

Fucking idiot

>>2867343
wake up sheeple

>>2863772
>it was a message to the west that a fight for democracy was occuring in occupied Poland, they also knew that they would be painted as collaborators by the communists if they allowed the communists to take Warsaw
The quote you are refering to was not about Warsaw Uprising, but about the fighting after AK was dissolved and the "cursed" were only running around, making themselves a nuisance to the communists. They opposed the orders of the London government and AK not to fight Soviets. There was no chance of them actually expelling Red Army, unless they just wanted to linger in forests until WW3 comes.

As for Warsaw
>The same day the governor of the General Government, Hans Frank, called for 100,000 Polish men between the ages of 17–65 to arrive at several gathering places in Warsaw the following day.
Not Hans Frank, but Ludwig Fischer. To quote wiki "the call was universally boycotted, which did not effect in any repressions". Even after the uprising started, Germans intially tried to negotiate with Poles. On 8 September some civillians were allowed to evacuate from Warsaw. Also, the effectiveness of German resistance to the Red Army can be called into question, when they got pushed back during the first four days of September, by severely underequipped AK.

Not to mention, so far, "Burza" was a failure. Soviets arrested Polish fighters and incorporated them into AL and Berling's Army. Why would anyone think that after 8 months of doing exactly that, Soviets would make an exception for the biggest stronghold of AK and the political structures they wished to eliminate? Stalin could've eaisly taken Warsaw by storm, yet he chose not to, because it eliminated the biggest problem he was facing in Poland - organized structures of a well-working resistance movement, which almost everyone was a part of. Even if the leaders believed Stalin would show human compassion (lol) and help them, the uprising began too early, Praga was not liberated yet.

>>2864701
Jews, Germans and Poles aren't ideologies.

>>2861626
Wow, you are a moron. The Indonesian thugs didn't kill "communists," they killed the economically successful chinese majority and intelligentsia who criticized the fascist dictatorship. Now Suharto's children are billionaires and Indonesia is an oligarchy and the country is in massive amounts of debt... but at least dey killed dem commies. Fuck off.

>>2867365
Judaism is a religion/ ideology.

>>2860304
>you have to be a Nazi to dislike communism
el em eff ay oh

>>2867374
And Jews are an ethnic group many of whom are irreligious.

>>2867343
>implying billionaires are in any way scared of communism
>implying modern commies aren't controlled opposition funded by the same billionaires
>implying communist countries didn't have the same greedy and corrupt oligarchy in the upper Party, essentially being the capitalist equivalent of "porkies"

>>2867363
Essentialy, it was simply pointless. The entire plan relied on Soviet cooperation, which they hadn't shown for the previous 8 months, only to "show" them that Polish people oppose communism. Stalin knew that already, and did not give a fuck.

If Komorowski feared, that Festung Warschau was good enough to stop Red Army and destroy the city, why did he make a haste decision, based on Soviet speedy advance? What was he planning to do then? Liberate Warsaw and hold off Germans indefinetly? He knew that was impossible, he was informed by Jeziorański, that RAF was unable to drop much more supplies and arms, due to German air defences. Only 5000 of 50k AK members in Warsaw had any firearms. It was only feasible with Soviet support.

Moreover, before the Uprising, Stalin was in a pickle. He knew, that after Katyń graves was discovered, everyone looked at him. Taking over Poland had to be done in a civillized manner, like Hungary and Czechoslovakia later was. Even then, he would have numerous AK veterans, some of them having weaponary, which could cause him problems, much more significant than isolated fighting in the forests by NSZ. Any major, violent purges would be playing with fire. He wanted to legitimize his rule (which the AK tried to prevent via Uprising), but contrary to what happened, around 200 000 people sympathizing with London, would not be dead in the ruins of capital city. In the case of major conflict between him and the West, that would be very, very dangerous internal enemy, ready to fight and angry. Destruction of AK, destruction of Warsaw broke the back of an entire nation, allowing him to eaisly consolidate communist power in Poland (according to 1946 referendum, which I guess is the only way to measure political opinions during that period, communists had support of around 28-40% voters). Nothing better could have happened to Stalin regarding Poland, than the Warsaw Uprising.

>>2860622
This. Killed over half a thousand soviets in less than 100 days.

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>>2861237
>>2861241
>complains about reddit
>is a phoneposter himself
The absolute state of this site.