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Which are -under your vision- wars that legitimately could be considered a war between a good and a bad side? Because for example, 100% of the independence wars in history, were just a dispute between the local elites vs the motherland to control the resources of a colony.
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>>2845515
Zulu Wars
dem good bois dindu nuffin
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>>2845525
kek
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>>2845515
WWII
I'll let you decide which one's which.
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Any class war
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>>2845515
Actually most wars are between one evil and another evil
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>>2845933
t. Marx
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World War 2
World War 1
French Revolution
Most wars involving Israel.
Most communist revolutions.

The common theme is that the good side loses.
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>>2845515
Free Planets Alliance was objectively the good side

OH HAIL! LIBERTY BELL!

TRUE FREEDOM FOR ALL MEN!
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>>2846013
Shut up you plutocratic scum.
Sigs Kaiser Reinhard.
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>>2846013
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>>2846013
HAIL KAISER REINHARD
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>>2846054
damn homeslice. That's deep and applicable to people in Iraq, Libya, Afganistan and other countries "liberated" by the USA.
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>>2846062
LotGH is applicable the everything.
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>>2845900
I'm surprised the stormfags and the tankies haven't started slinging shit at each other over this post yet.
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>>2846024
>>2846055
DIE KAISER REINHARD
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>>2846099
>>2846106

SIGS KAISER REINHARD
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>>2846013
While it was founded on good values, it's a corrupt mess by the point in its history depicted in the show. I wouldn't consider it in any ways a force for good. Even if it's more free than the Empire, paramilitary gangs like the PKC keep dissenters in check with brutal methods, while the authorities do nothing.
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Acting like the Alliance in the state that it was in was any better than the Empire is missing the point of the entire show.
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>>2846106
Reinhard alone made the Empire ten times better than the Alliance.
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lotgh is literally a cartoon for babies
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No one likes pezzan.
>>2846158
Low energy bait.
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>>2846158
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>>2846168
Oh sorry, what I meant to say is:

LotGH is literally a cartoon for BABBIES
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>>2846134
Don't realizing pezzan and the cult of earth is the real evil is losing the point.
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>>2846168
>>2846162
>replying to bait
Bittenfeld, you hothead.
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American Civil War. Do it again, General Sherman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRXmuvLU8LQ
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>>2846221
Implying that the north wasn't fighting for profit and a slave didn't lived better than a union factory work.
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>>2846215
Childhood is thinking Rubinsky was evil

Adulthood is realizing he did nothing wrong
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>>2846232

Yeah that's why so many ex-slaves and their descendants moved north to work in factories
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>Free
>Planets
>Alliance
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>>2846247
Sure, because ex-slaves don't need to eat and the only paying jobs weren't on the Union.
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The magician is too for this world.
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Rhodesian Bush War
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>>2845515
The Polish-Soviet war
The Winter War
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>>2846281
Soviet - ???? war
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>>2845515
Winter War is the purest answer t. spurdo
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Yang is the best of us. /his/ incarnate.
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>>2846090
Oh, they will. But it's night for most of /pol/, and they're slinging shit over there.
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>>2845900
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>Because for example, 100% of the independence wars in history, were just a dispute between the local elites vs the motherland to control the resources of a colony.

Greek War of Independence. Also, most independence wars fought against empires whose cultures conflicted with the rebelling party.
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>>2846148
That's the problem, he's one dude who'll leave behind a shitty empire when he kicks the bucket.
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>>2845515
Any war against the Turks.
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>>2845515
The defensive wars against the Caliphates, the Crusades (with the exception of the Fourth), the wars against the Turks can all be pretty much called good vs evil
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>>2846377
The road to becoming a nat-soc. 88 my germanic brothers
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>>2846054
Why do they still farm the lands by hand with plows when they have space ships and teleportation technology?
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>>2848472
This. See: Alexander the Great
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>>2848533
Nigga they don't even have cellphones
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The Peloponnesian War.
The Great Northern War.
The American Civil War.
World War Two.
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>>2848668
What an awful post
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Sino-Japanese War numero 2

That was just pure autism and the Japanese strategist realized it was stupid from the start, but the generals kept pushing for it.
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>>2848688
Prove me wrong.
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>>2848701
I can.
Who was the "good" side in WW2?
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>>2848646
But they have beam weapons and energy shields though
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>>2848710
The one that despite making morally questionable choices on their part, were fighting a war to protect themselves from the side whose expressed purpose was to take their land for their own benefit.
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>>2848714
Which run on DOS 5.

In addition to the show being old, I think they were going for distribution problems in the Alliance, and corruption in the Empire.
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>>2848770
I mean we had better farming technology 100 years ago than they have now in the show.
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>>2845515

>Rome vs Carthage

The Carthaginians were despicable people, and modern research only confirms this. They were semites that built an entire culture around trade and nothing else, and routinely sacrificed their own generals because they didn't bring back the desired results, as well as hiring mercenaries they knew they couldn't afford. And let's not forget, they were baby-killers. They deserved to lose.

>Sparta vs Athens

While the Athenians were pretty much god tier, I still can't abide by a tyrannical state that tortured their clients so much that they started wishing they never left Persian rule. The pragmatism in the Athenian game theory was simply too much, and after Pericles they kept swinging from one mood and ideologue to the other, killing people loyal to Athens, fucking over long-time allies, and starting battles with other city states miles away.

>Germany vs the world, civilization, Europe, and everything good in humanity

It's not a single war and it's still ongoing. But one day it will hopefully be gone.
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>>2848737
Why exactly is being weak, "good"?
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>>2845515
>beyond Good and Evil.

FFS. man the fuck up
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>>2848784
All this Anglo and German hate seems to be instigated by a certain third party that benefits from these disagreements.
I wonder who that third party could be...
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>>2848796
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>>2848800
>EU flag

Correct
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>>2848784
>he fell for Roman propaganda

Pathetic. Carthaginians were the good guys
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>>2848789
If they were "weak" they wouldn't have won in the end.
Also right makes might, that was spelt out in the first war I posted.

>>2848784
Carthage was the bad guy in the 1st war, Sicily was rightful Greco-Roman territory.
The 2nd and 3rd Punic Wars? I can't really condone kicking someone in the balls while they're down.
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>>2846377
Weird OC coming through.
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>>2848816

>Pathetic. Carthaginians were the good guys

Because?

>>2848840

You're talking about strictly who was in the right on a political level. I am saying that overall, the Romans were a superior people and civilization that deserved to win.
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>>2848472
His wife made it into a Constitutional Monarchy when he died. Probably.
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>>2848886
Just because the Greeks and Romans were the pinnacles of civilisation doesn't make them the "good guys" in every single confrontation.
They should've defeated the Carthaginians justly, just like Aeneas did with Turnus.
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>>2848902
It's always the women ruining everything good. Hopefully his son won't be cucked from his birthright as an autocrat.
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>>2845515

wars of aggression tend to have the good and bad side more clean cut than other kinds of war
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>>2848912
At least that'll prevent it from turning into Goldenbaum 2.0.
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>>2845515
Invasions of Iraq
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>>2848940
I think when your teacher says she loves Saddam, she means that she finds him interesting.
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>>2845975
>world war 1
Wrong
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>>2848919
Not as often as you'd think, and certainly not as often as you're told.
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>>2845515
The Great Patriotic War
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>>2848770
It alsways seemed to me that the epire was basically just a feudal society that could sustain it's gigantic arsenal just because of it's sheer size.I think it's even mentioned that the equilibrium between Empire and Alliance is only maintaned because the Alliance uses it's few planets way more efficiantly.
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>>2848949

We didn't overthrow Saddam for "democracy" or for fear of biological weapons.

We did it because he was planning to withdraw from the oil cartel and planning to sell oil in multiple currencies as opposed to merely the dollar.

We also did it because the House of Saud does not want any significant unified competition in the region. They don't really give a shit about Islam, they give a shit that they can fuck instagram models and import luxury cars.
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>>2848533
Because that shit is restricted to the aristocracy, peasants were treated as bad as the stereotypical Russian serf.
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>>2846013
>objectively the good side
They definitely weren't, and the whole point of the show was that. FPA dying was absolutely necessary for democracy to survive through the Iserlohn Republic.
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>>2848472
Yeah and he/his wife set it up so that in the eventuality that one of his descendants becomes a shitty ruler then they'll be rightfully overthrown instead of it degenerating into the shitty previous system.
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>>2845515
Any war against the mongols was a war between good and bad
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>>2851367
Yes, and the Mongols were the good guys. Even Tolkien said he regretted portraying the bad guys in his books as Mongols because he knew what's up (Genghis's soul). You're probably some mad Persian even though Mongols saved the country.

Another good example is the current war against the "I S". Just as our President said to the Muslims the other day, it's a battle of good and evil right now. Assyria is the cradle of civilization so a Christian empire needs to be set up in Mosul (renamed Nineveh) as soon as possible.

The monuments there are called 'world' heritage sites for a reason. If you truly believe all men are created equal you have to fight for the world's heritage bequeathed unto all of us and stop the Shaytan.
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>>2851474
t. John Green
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The Hunnic War (Chalons)
>a horde of barbarians wants to invade your land for the sole purpose of enslaving and plundering it

The Germania campaign (Teutoburg Forest)
>a legion of civilized men want to invade your lands for the sole purpose of plundering and enslaving it

Any war against Britain or the Turks.
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>>2850687
>they don't really give a shit about islam

Top zozzle. Surely the single biggest funder of your precious religion of """"peace"""" doesn't really care about it
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>>2851474
You sound very mad.
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>>2851525

I have no love for Islam. But I honestly think most of the House of Saud likes social pretense while they practice plain debauchery in their strongholds.

Their allegiance to Islam is funding an inherently unstable system of thought which destabilizes muslim majority countries. As long as muslim is choking muslim, the Saudis are happy.

They are mere humans though but with a rich horde to satisfy almost any desire...well they are mere humans, not complicated practitioners of a school of Islam. They care less for Allah than they do shitting on exotic women,
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All wars are good vs bad you postmodernist cuck
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Soviet-Afghan War
Fucking Wahhabist scum
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>>2851713

CONT.

If a billion muslims died around them (genomic weapon sort of deal), they would have a religious vision where Christ chastised their way but would forgive their sins upon voluntary conversions to the throne of Peter.

And then they'd make up with the Catholic Church and start giving tithe while keeping their debauched antics.
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>>2846354
Yang was better than Reinhard 2bh
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>>2845515
French Revolutionary Wars (Republicans are bad guys)

Spanish Civil War (Republicans are bad guys)

American War of Independence (Republicans are bad guys)

Russian Civil War (Reds are bad guys)

Cristero War (Freemasons and liberals are bad guys)

Ottoman-Habsburg wars (Ottomans are bad guys)

WW2 (fascists and communists are bad guys)

English Civil War (parliamentarians are bad guys)
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>>2851725
>soviet-afghan war
>wars involving wahhabists

Pick one
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war in the vendee
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>>2853567
Never 4get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JK_47TbZA
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>>2853518
At what? Being Chinese?
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All wars are between two good sides, because they both contribute to the bloodshed. A bad war is a war that is never fought.
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>>2845515
Any war between the settled Civilizations of Asia and the Central Asian Nomad Hordes.

Seriously, it's between
>Civilizations that couldn't give a shit about expanding to the steppes.
And
>Nomads who think there's absolutely nothing wrong in demanding ransoms and tributes from the settled peoples, or raiding them for various resources when you feel it/need it.

Steppenigs are the only real bad guys of history. Anyone they raided absolutely, without meming, dindu nuffin wrong to them.
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>>2853614
This.
>Mongols: HEY GUIZE, SUBMIT OR DIE.
>Civilized people: Uh, no?
>Mongols: OMG I AM OFFENDED, I WILL KILL EVERYONE TALLER THAN A CART WHEEL, ROB YOUR CITIES, AND RAPE YOUR DAUGHTERS

Fuck Mongols. I love how they're a peripheral country buttfucked by Russia and China.
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>>2846377
>>2848510
Funny, I always understood it as going
>"Nazis were bad"
>"AKSHULLY"
>"Wait, Nazis really were bad"

Aka outgrowing edgy teenage stormfag years.
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>>2845515
War of Haitian independence, at least initially, was fought between Big and Small Whites, advocating for home rule and a system of colonial apartheid in conflict with loyalists, many of whom were free coloreds. I do not see that the Big Whites, who fought for home rule as a result of the increasing colored equality promoted by France, as much as for any degree of home rule, all while owning thousands upon thousands of slaves, could be considered the good party, in a conflict against France, a state which was attempting to rewind on their previous racial apartheid policies. War is never that simple. Not independence war, not any war.
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Any war fought against the G*rms.
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>>2848784
>And let's not forget, they were baby-killers.

Romans killed unwanted babies by bashing their heads on rocks or tossing them into river or ditch. They also drove the contraceptive plant silphium into extinction for their hatred of babies.
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>>2855082
This, krauts are beyond useless.
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