Is this war the most complicated of them all?
Who is the most major player:
Sweden, Brandenburg, the Dutch, Hapsburgs, Russia, Poles, Danes, French, Von Wallensteins enormous cock etc.
What is the official start date?
>>2837976
>Who is the most major player:
Habsburgs and French.The rest were just puppets
>>2838003
This. The Eternal Baguette is to blame.
>>2838003
Even Sweden?
>>2838003
What about Frederick V?
Surely the Spanish-Dutch war had a big impact.
>>2837976
>Who is the most major player
The jews
>>2838023
this board is going to shit :(
lost /pol/ and /int/ posters trying to be 'edgy' for (you)'s all the time now
>>2837976
>Who is the most major player:
Catholic League - Habsbourgs
Protestant Union - Denmark, Sweden, France
>What is the official start date?
1618, when angry mob threw the Habsbourgian Catholic city administrators out of the windows of Prague castle
>simplified history:
1618 - 1630 Habsbourgs fought the Danes
1630 - 1635 Habsbourgs fought the Swedish
1635 - 1648 Habsbourgs fought the Swedish and French
I don't really see whats so complicated there
>>2838008
yes.
>>2838008
King Gustavus Adolphus was a Richelieu agent just like Tamarit and the Bragaças.It is funny how the Baguettes called the anglos perfidous when they performed the scumiest tactics to bring down the Habsburg hegemonye
>>2838035
>Protestant Union - Denmark, Sweden, France
KEK.Just put France.Denmark and Sweden were just Richelieu's dogs
>>2838035
Because you're forgetting most other conflicts between the Poles and the swedes and the Russians, the Bohemian revolt, the Dutch revolt, Von Wallensteins private army and concession to be an elector etc.
>You can simplify any war the way you do:
Germans fought the Poles
Germans fought the French
Germans fought the Russians
Germans and Japanese fought the Americans
>>2838043
Well the French were surrounded by Habsburg Germans to the East and Spanish to the Southwest. There's also England itself which is to the north and constantly poses a threat so the Grench have at least some justification for doing what they did.
>>2838051
England was an ally to France back then and the HAbsburgs never started an offensive war against the French unlike the French.The frogs are just perfidious