How did the concept of an empire die out in today's world?

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>>2831854
Ahem...

ww1

and it didn't go down without the bloodiest fight in history

>>2831854
public schooling

>>2831858
Not an empire

When people started to associate the word imperialism with genocide

>>2831854
People found out you could exploit the countries economically without the costly business of running them

>>2831854
empires died because they weren't profitable anymore

>>2831858
It just has a bunch of vassals

>>2831854
Russia still exists.

>>2831858
>Spends millions on a military that supports half the world
>gets nothing in return
yeah what an empire

>>2831854

WW1 and II blew up the empires, and because of Hitler everybody went >muh racism

, so the notion of one people ruling other people's became taboo.

>>2831906
Trade + invading other countries for fun

>>2831865
>has territories and bases in the various oceans of the world (like the UK in the 19th century)
>is respected as a powerful force around the globe (like the UK in the 19th century)
>can easily project naval power in large amounts (like the UK in the 19th century)
>one of the largest manufactures in the world (like the UK in the 19th century)
the only way that U.S is not an empire is that it doesn't control large tracts of colonial land to exploit.

>>2831892
This.

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>>2831854

I wouldn't say it literally died out but relative to the volume and weight of ideas if you considered all beings equal it has sort of just been buried and in that is a sort of new style of warfare/defence.

>>2831920
empire
ˈɛmpʌJə/Submit
noun
1.
an extensive group of states or countries ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state.
"the Roman Empire"
synonyms: kingdom, realm, domain, territory, province;
Yep definitely not an empire then.

>>2831854
globalism == imperialism

both cases are some bunch getting uppity and thinking themselves better than everyone else so subsuming everyone under the authority of a government the globalists/imperialists control instead of the people themselves, and subsuming any idea of a common good in favor of the interests of their clique

>>2831854

It didnt. Its even worse. We are all part of an upcoming super empire. A one world government ruled over by a cabal of hidden elites. We are nothing more than cattle for them. Feudalism in its most radicle form. Propaganda so powerful that even the people who are skeptics will fight against any dissenters.

>>2831920
Brainlet detected (Thats the most important part)

on the right corner there was a former colony
on the left there was a communist power

naturally neither liked the whole "imperialism" biz

>>2831920
>the only way that U.S is not an empire is that it doesn't control large tracts of colonial land to exploit.
So in other words it's not an empire.

>>2831854
America and the world wars killed it

>>2831854
Globalisation happened. Now soft power matters more.

>>2831854
They don't use direct rule anymore

>>2831854
Because Imeprialism is done under the surface these days.

>>2831854
Nationalism became stronger, wars became more expensive and less popular

>>2831880
Why did they suddenly stop being profitable

>>2831874
Pretty much this. War can very easily become an all-in affair, especially today when illegitimate aggression usually means everyone else will gang up on you. Now the meat of a nation is its industry and development more than simple subjugation of a land and its people. That along with most developed nations either having nukes or having friends with nukes means establishing a new empire is all, but impossible.

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>>2834124
Absolute balderdash

Imperialism is absolutely not done "under the surface", especially if you're a kid in Yemen or all the other places the US drone bombs.

And it's not an "all in affair" when you consider that the US can drop bombs from a distance and without any effect on their own country's people.

If you notice, military imperial action by the US was the ONLY thing that got the democrat side in the US to let up on Trump. The pseudo libs started throwing parties when Trump started bombing, because they are as behoven to the myth of the US being the BEST EVER COUNTRY as the other "side" are.

>>2831906

>implying subjucating other countries is not a benefit

>what was the drug war
>what is the arms war
>what is making everyone else a credit economy

>>2831854
Europeans being dumb moralfags.

nationalism
It was a lit match that ignited WW1 ended the idea of empires

>>2831920
>america is an empire other than [the thing that defines somewhere as an empire]
Good jaaab. *claps*

>>2831854
Cold War.

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>>2831854
It didn't, its just by NGO's not states. Unironically the plot of call of duty advanced warfare will probably happen. The age of Nation States is over anons, Companies are the new great powers (Inb4 but USA is more powerful, Its also more constrained by public morality whilst a business is not). After the US dies down we will see companies operating in an increased role. The scramble for Africa 2.0 is happening with Chinese partially state owned joint stock companies buying huge portions of Africa for resources, the AU building was literally built by chinks. Why do you think that Chinks are deployed in Africa as part of UN missions there, the same reason the western powers are conducting anti piracy operations on the horn of Africa, because they have something to gain. (Chinks defending recent resource investments, US and co defending vital oil transport route)
As the world becomes more free market with liberal economics, companies will battle it out for markets and probably get more violent, soon (if not already) PMC's will literally fight each other for resources in 3rd world shit holes with unofficial support from great powers.Even for shit like water which they can make a profit from.
Concepts of the past are even more alive and well today, we're just too blind to see it with all the technology we have.
Propaganda still exists today even more effectively than in 1930/40's Germany and Japan, we just call it public relations.
Resource acquisition seen back in the day fighting for a watering hole or farm land happens today with the Arab-Israeli conflict literally being over underground water aquifers and clean water supplies.

I often look back in the past and wish I lived in those epic moments of history but tbqh the 21st century is probably the most interesting century of them all.

ppl dont want their sons to be killed in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in the name of some stupid empire that does nothing for them

it did its job, established the wellbeing of the country, now it would cost more than its worth

plus there are less direct (and cheaper) ways to assume control of a targeted place

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It's not dead, it's just sleeping.
We will be kings like our ancestors

>>2831874
They sorta did.
But that also came at the cost of making it harder to run the same enterprises, in the long term.


It also means you can't invest into infrastructure any longer, or lobby complete system changes.
So its basically a net loss, once a 10 year period has passed.

>>2835210
you'll be ruling over the scraps

>>2831938
>an oligarchy
Actually this

The 50's and the Cold War happened. The idea of a "Third World" that wasn't team USA or USSR led to peoples wanting to do their own thing. Plus the Holocaust made it so you couldn't just gatling gun Zulus down anymore.

>>2831906
you know, aside from running the EU as a puppet state?