Why did early Muslim philosophers love Aristotle so much?

>>2819820
christians did too

It amuses me when any religious person is interested in logic and reason.

>>2819820
Do you just mean Iranian philosophers?

>>2819930
Averroes was Arab

>>2819947
Why are there so few Arab philosophers, polymaths, and intellectuals even during the "Islamic" Golden Age?

>>2819844

here's your (you)

>>2819833
Early Christianity was all about Platonism

>>2819820
Muslims back then were far less retarded than today because they didn't have 14 centuries of literal cousin-fucking.

>>2819844
I wish to cause much alarm by informing you that Quantumn Analysis can actually be combined with probability to find God.

>>2819956
Because the early Muslim states basically swallowed the sassanids whole and decided to use what they had already developed instead of starting from scratch. It's why Persian statecraft traditions also survived through the conquests; everything the Arabs wanted to do the Persians already knew how to do

>>2819973
I don't think sciences, mathematics, languages, philosophy works the way you think it does just because the Sassanid Empire's structure was copied by the Arab Caliphates. And to add, Arab intellectuals generally focused more on Islamic laws and religious discourse and thinks like the Hadiths and Islamic law.

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>>2819973

>>2819993
I may be simplifying it but I do think that the fact that Persians had been sedentary for over a millennium and had a rich intellectual tradition can help explain their overrepresentation in the intellectual circles of the califate

>>2819956
Most of the literary figures and poets were Arab tho.
It's cultural as Arabs consider work and art a disgrace. (Most of the sciences were considered arts)

In fact the word work in Arabic "Mihna" stems directly from "Mahana" meaning disgrace.

Plus biological inferiority.

>>2819947
He was not an Arab.

>>2819956
There are many of them, mainly in astronomy and medicine. Averroes in the picture is an Arab for example.

Iranians overshadowed Arabs during Abbasid era and onwards because Iranians always had a culture of scholarship and literature, it's even mentioned in one of the hadiths that if knowledge was suspended in heavens, Iranians would still reach it.

>>2820210
Mihna does not stem from Mahana, they both stem from root MHN which is about overflowing.

>>2819930
Not a single Muslim Iranian philosopher was interested in Aristotle, all Muslim philosophers who were interested in Aristotelian metaphysics were Arabs

>>2819963
ISIS and al-Qaeda are pretty well versed in Aristotelianism

>>2819956
>this meme again

>>2820266
It's true

>>2820226
MHN is actually a verb meaning "is weakened"

Imam Al Shafi'i even discouraged jobs at one point.

>>2819844
>>2819969
You're both dumb

>>2820274
Then prove it

>>2820306
Burden of proof is on you, Hakim.

>>2819820
Early "muslims" were Persians appreciated high culture like Greeks, Egyptians, and Indians.

Since Islamic invasion happened from inward, they were able to keep the Persian scholars for few generations.

>>2820543
Except much of those Persians scholars are in 900s up until 1200s, roughly 500 years after conquest.

It's like talking today about philosophy of 1500s and today then pretending it's few years apart.

>>2820566
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-Hamid_al-Katib
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Dawood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hanifa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Baladhuri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ma%CA%BFshar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Zayd_al-Balkhi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban%C5%AB_M%C5%ABs%C4%81
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_ibn_Barmak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Bukhari
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahl_ibn_Bishr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukhtishu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borzuya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Bal%27ami
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu%27l-Fadl_al-Bal%27ami
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hanifa_Dinawari
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Qutaybah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Muhammad_ibn_Kathir_al-Farghani
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Farabi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibr%C4%81h%C4%ABm_al-Faz%C4%81r%C4%AB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu%E1%B8%A5ammad_ibn_Ibr%C4%81h%C4%ABm_al-Faz%C4%81r%C4%AB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Sahl_%27Isa_ibn_Yahya_al-Masihi

A lot of them pre-date the 900s, maybe not a majority but a sizable amount of them regardless pre-date that claim of solely after the 900s.

>>2819820
Because they weren't enlightened enough for Plato.

>>2819820
ayn rand loved aristotle too

so the answer is probably autism

>>2819963
Its funny you say that because Muslim astronomy was held back because they were so obsessed with keeping with Aristotles opinions on Astronomy

>>2819930
>>2819956
>>2820543

Most mutakallim were Arabs, not Persians, retards.

>>2820600
>much of the
>claim of solely

>>2820654
I never said anything about "solely" or "majority" though.

Because Aristotle's philosophies are quite compatible with Islam. Aristotle said that everyone is created with a meaning of life that they must fulfill whether they want to or not. This is very compatible with Islam which states that you must give your undying submission to God

>>2820477
>state claim
>refuse to back it up
Not really

Ignore the every philosopher/scientist was a persian crowd, all of them are brainwashed iran diaspora fags who disort history to hide their inferiority complexes about arab conquest.

Ali reza losangeleszahdes ruining threads again

>>2822374
No, someone stated a claim that Arabs lack the same amount of intellectuals as non-Arabs do when it came to the Islamic Golden Age. Someone else interjected into this multi-poster reply chain adding that they believed most Iranian intellectuals contributed to it after the 10th century, you still have the burden of proof to prove your claim, retard.

>>2819960
Neoplatonism, which has Aristotelian elements in it.

>>2819820

The Early muslim empire(s) had a long time of peaceful living and a great deal of wealth flowing in due to silk road

Good times always make place for philosophy and science.

I bet you Mansa Musa read Aristotle as well

>>2819844
>m'lady

>>2822468
Dude re-read the reply chain and look at who I am replying to.

>>2819820
>Why did early Muslim philosophers love Aristotle so much?

Same reason Christians did: It was far, far, far superior to anything they could come up with by themselves, so they stole it and pretended it was their all along.

test

>I'm a logic guy!
>until skydaddy says otherwise

>>2819820
Because greeks were christians.

>>2819820
Because in reading and translating Aristotle, they learned a million times more than they already knew, which was precious little.

>>2824350
>dude


no

>>2824489
Don't be childish.

>>2822440

>t. butthurt arab diaspora living on welfare in europe

>>2824533
t. butthurt Iranian diaspora doing the same

>>2824533
not arab, not even muslim but We can't have a thread without you fags runining it

not saying arab posters are pefect but a) you outnumber them b) you are far more annoying, as you derail almost every fucking thread

I'm sure there are obnoxious arab posters but I have never seen one derailing a thread about sassanids or achamenids.

>>2825218
>not even arab
Yeah right
>you outnumber them
There are almost 13 million Arabs in Europe and over 4.4 million in North America. There is at most 2 million Iranians in the US, I don't think you are in any position to talk about the Iranian diaspora outnumbering Arab diaspora.

>I have never seen one derailing a thread abut sassanids or achamenids
Then you are lying.

>>2825244
Why are you so autistic? I'm not even that guy and I just browse /his/ from time to time but his observations are correct from what I've seen. What does the amount of Arabs matter? He was obviously talking about the ones that browse 4chan.

>>2825261
Why are you so autistic? I'm not even that guy and I just browse /his/ to bust liars when I encounter them.

>his
You mean (You)rs.

>2825270
>bust liars
Ok dude
>(You)s
Yeah I realize that's obviously the only reason you're here.

>>2825286
Its not working. But I like how I was the newest IP/unique poster in the thread after >>2825218 (You)r post. Try harder, retard.

>2825293
Fucking kek

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>>2825303
>>2825286

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>>2825321
Thanks for proving my point further, Azim.

>2825330
>If you call out my shitposting and don't give me (You)s you're butthurt
ok lad

>>2825951
>So ass-pained you wait almost three hours later to reply again
Okay buddy.

>2826037
>being glued to the screen
If anything that's what is laughable here.

>>2826047
>>2825951
>>2825321
>>2825303
>>2825286
Why are you so mad?

>2826056
Why do you assume I am?

>>2826067
Because you are, Ackmed.

>2826083
But I'm not Ali reza

>>2826084
Sure thing dude. I'm done here since you've repeatedly ad naseum proven you are retarded over and over, Hussein.

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>2826096
Ok my dude, whatever you say :^)