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Worst /his/torical myths of all time

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I'll start...
>both sides of WWI were equally bad
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>Hirohito did nuffin wrong
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>america were the good guys
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I'm going to be honest, all of Europe is equally damned for the start of that war

France could just as equally been put under sequestration instead of Germany, (they were the other side of the coin after all)
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>>2816810

there is nothing at all wrong here, we are in fact the good guys, we want to ensure a verdant and peaceful world for all, as well as the free access to trade for our citizens and others.
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>>2816824

>one country invades another, neutral country and rapes the shit out of it, while launching a surprise attack on a third country, while knowing that a fourth country would definitely come to the aid of the other two attacked countrie
>everyone's was equally damned

No, it was just the Eternal Teuton chimping out.
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>>2816842

if you all want to enthusiastically march into oblivion you should not complain to the undertaker
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>>2816427

>*gases your trenches*
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>>2816843
If someone drags you into oblivion you have the right
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>>2816810
The Americans didn't really do anything wrong in the two world wars. Hell, in the second one they weren't even the first to declare war.
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>>2816427
"Stab in the back"
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>>2816917

Neither were we the first to declare war in the first, the German knew full well that he sought war with us with the actions taken, he planned for our involvement in the greater sin of that infernal continent as he doubled his efforts to break his opponents.
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>>2816830
>Actually causing most of the deaths directly or indirectly that supposedly happened during the holocaust
>NO! We're the good gaiz cos we punch nazis!
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>>2816942
I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>2816842
If you beat a country fairly in a war then spend the next 20 years doing everything in your power to destroy that nation and cause immense suffering among the people then don't be surprised when they fight back. If France had actually followed America's advice and been nice to Germany after the great war then world war 2 probably would have been far less devastating and long as it was.

France was one of the few countries that actually deserved everything it got from Germany in ww2, countries like Poland and Britain actually didn't constantly shit on Germany in the lead up to the war.
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>>2816942

what a lot of ridiculous nonsense

I wish I could meet you
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>>2816843

>it's enthusiastically marching into oblivion to help your allies when a bunch of blonde niggers swarm in and start raping everything
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>>2816960

No one said anything about the 2nd war
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Germany must be destroyed. The German populace must be exterminated, and former German land divided between its neighbors. The last vestiges of German bloodlines, hiding in the Americas, in the Baltic, even in Africa, must be extinguished by a global initiative.
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>>2816953
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>>2816973
Nice try Hans
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>>2816963

>believing sensationalist propaganda newspapers and the french
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>>2816960
>If France had actually followed America's advice and been nice to Germany after the great war then world war 2 probably would have been far less devastating and long as it was.
If America actually followed France advice there wouldn't be a world war 2.

Versailles wasn't harsh enough.
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>>2817005

The French helped America gain independence. It would have been traitorous to side with the Germans.
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>>2817005
>I can't believe they would go to war over a scrap of paper
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>>2816972

I feel this way about continentals in general, they're ever a great source of agitation.

As for people that moved to America over a hundred years ago, they're American.
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>>2817011
Versailles was an unhappy medium between status quo antebellum and occupation and partition.
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The South seceded because Lincoln wanted to end slavery; the Italian Army was filled with weak cowards in ww2; Hitler would have lasted longer or possibly won ww2 & conquered Europe if he didn't constantly have to bailout the Italians & send them aid, men & arms; Julius Caesar was a hated tyrant that everyone in Rome wanted dead.
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>>2817011

if France had ceased to exist there wouldn't have been a second world war either
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>>2817030
Yes, but they weren't the losers of WW1.
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>>2817020
>As for people that moved to America over a hundred years ago, they're American.

Of course. They're second on the chopping block. We must mobilize the world nations' military and civilian fleets to ship roughly 200 million American citizens to the European mainland, where they will be led into the German furnaces, kept running after the last Kraut parasites were rooted out of their hiding places.
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>>2817039

who are you, kim jon un?
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>>2817037

they were the militaristic co-belligerent, they hold equal blame, but for a turn of history we are made to see Germany as the faulting party
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>>2817044
Only a concerned citizen, anxious to see the peoples of the world live in harmonious peace. Once Germans, Americans and Pakistanis, Earth will know peace.
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>>2817051

Well, Germany did invade Belgium without cause and execute thousands of Belgian civilians while passing through. That is kinda bad......
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>>2817057

peace won't reign on earth till mankind is ended
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Overall, the Great Satan of the world has been Britain. The perfidious little bastards ruined the entire world with their made up borders and manufactured flags, and hostility over what they did continues to this day. They were always evil, since the treachery of the long knives.
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>>2817051
>Germans decide that Russia needs to be eliminated before it can grow into an industrial rival to Germany
>Germans decide that in order to defeat Russia, they must first put France out of the war
>Germans tell Austro-Hungarians to trigger a war by giving Serbia an unacceptable ultimatum so they can do this
>the plan almost falls apart when the Serbians comply with all of Austria's demands, but the Austro-Hungarians solve the problem by attacking them anyway
>plan falters a bit when French make overtures for peace
>Germans solve this problem by demanding that they evacuate the forts in the east of their country, during the middle of a world war, and then declaring war when they refuse
>any of this is France's fault

In all seriousness, this is why pacifists deserve to be persecuted.

Hippies pushing "it was everyone's fault, maaan" and "what a pointless war" are why there was a second world war.

Gas the hippies now.
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Everything bad for the past 217 years has been the fault of the Germans. Prove me wrong.
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>>2817074

Don't get me wrong, I am pleased with the outcome, it led to punishment for France.
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>>2816427
>both sides of WWI were equally bad
I'm tired of that meme as well, especially when people try to whitewash the wreckers of nations and tumours on humanity that are America and Britain and have the gall to even imply they were morally on the same standing as say, Austria-Hungary.
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>>2816427
Clean Wehrmacht
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>>2817093

you sound like you need a good glassing m8
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>Castro saved Cuba from the evil Batista
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>>2817121
I genuinely had some Marxist American cunt tell me that Castro saved Cuba from Batista's "white supremacy". Completely ignoring the fact that Castro was a white racist and so were most of his associates, and Batista was half nigger and half Chinese.
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>>2817130
Castro wasn't a racist. Besides, he drove White Cubans towards the USA en masse and the country is likely majority Afro-Carribean now.
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>>2817147
>he drove White Cubans towards the USA
A favor he did not extend to the Afro-Carribeans.
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>>2817158
Black people can't swim.
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>>2816427

When can we fire up the blood centrifuges?
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>>2817147
He was a racist, commonly referred to Batista as "negro de mierda" and made fun of him for being a mongrel. Guevara was also a racist, his writings on the matter are well known.

>the country is likely majority Afro-Carribean now
Source: your anus. Cuba is barely blacker than the US.
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>>2817057

Kill yourself you larper
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>>2817169
The Cuban government is known to obfuscate it's actual demographic statistics. Modern, 21st century show abrupt changes with pre-2000 statistics in terms of percentages. Internal memos from USA intelligence services also show they assume the population is (likely) of majority African descent.

There's no way to be sure obviously, but there certainly is some evidence that it's not 80% White.
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Christians burnt down the library at Alexandria...

... Thanks for that one, Gibbon...
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>>2817169
>Castro
>racist
Stale bait. He may have used some slurs but he wasn't racist. He banned Christianity because he said it had a history of oppressing Africans.
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>France is powerful
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>>2816427
Honestly Germany was extremely reckless in ww1, they didn't give a fuck, they were gonna fight the entire world

france and russia wanna fight? good
we ran over neutral belgium now the brits have an excuse to fight us too? good
we sank dozens of ships of neutral countries and now half the world declares war on us? good fuck you ill fight everybody
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>>2819163
It's not census records, faggot. It's genetic research.
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>>2819250
It's a centralized government with heavy say in social polcies, dummy, all research can be altered. Again, it should be telling that the USA government agrees the exact opposite is most likely.
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>>2816960
>Treaty of Versailles
>harsh
Germany got off easy, too easy, and then the Allies bent over backwards ignoring Nazi Germany's breaches of it in the hopes that they'd see reason and stop before going too far yet again.
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>>2817085
France didn't really get much of a beatdown, they folded quickly and then didn't fight back much during the occupation. They sure talked a good game when the Nazis were driven out by the Americans, though.
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>>2817093
America's imperialist tendencies bloomed after WW2.
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>>2816960
But the destruction of Germany (as a political entity, not physical) WAS JUSTIFIED.
Ever since Germany was unified under Prussian autism it only brought misery on the continent.

Also stop with this meme of "le ebil Versailles Treaty", when the krauts invented the reparation meme the french finished to pay it in advance.

>If France had actually followed America's advice and been nice to Germany after the great war then world war 2 probably would have been far less devastating and long as it was.

Yeah, I would like to see how "nice" would amerifarts be after a country invaded you, destroyed materially your entire north-west territory, used the most horrifying method of warfare ever seen (like bombing civilians behind the lines or using nerve and flamethrowers), killed half of a generation of men and crippled the rest.
Americans and their advices can go fuck themselves, Germany needed to be permanently neutered after WW1, also if the brits did not pussy out in 36 nothing would have happened.

Wilson was either a naive idiot or a cynical piece of shit.
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>>2819592
>War is just confined to the Northwest of France.
>Oooh woe is me!
>t. country that was the focal point of many Eurofaggot wars.
Not to mention nobody could enforce it anyway. You niggers could barely enforce Lausanne and look at what the fucking Turks did.
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>>2819619
>War is just confined to the Northwest of France.

And ? Did you never hear about population and economic density ?
Pro-tip: there is and was fuck all people in the west and center of France.

>Not to mention nobody could enforce it anyway. You niggers could barely enforce Lausanne and look at what the fucking Turks did.

Preventing Hitler to take back the Rhineland was totally enforceable, all the heavy industry was there, but the british PM was gigantic cum swallower gaylord and France was few months away from elections.
Only the french far right was willing to do what was necessary but the socialist as always were pacifist pussies.
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>it was wrong to drop the atom bombs on japan
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>>2816427
Can someone explain this spongebob meme to me? I've seen it a few times and I don't get it.
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>>2819920
>only Japan is left to the Japanese
>a naval blockade stops them from doing anything
>they have a limited supply of fuel
>the cost of this would be less than the Berlin occupation force
>this somehow threatens burgers
>>2819650
Yes peace in our times fag was bad but we were both in economic depression and the British empire was hurt worse
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>>2819938
I'm mocking you and saying your point is a sacred cow nothing more
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>>2819942
desu i think we wanted to find out what would happen
>>2819920
2 wasn't enough
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>>2817057

t. Rajj Petrov
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>>2816960
>If France had actually followed America's advice and been nice to Germany after the great war then world war 2 probably would have been far less devastating and long as it was.
>France was one of the few countries that actually deserved everything it got from Germany in ww2, countries like Poland and Britain actually didn't constantly shit on Germany in the lead up to the war.
t. Wilhelm
also incredibly stupid. Full on retarded, even.
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I'm not sure if this counts as a myth, rather it's the source of a few cancerous myths.

The general lack of awareness in "pop history" of the Barbary pirates and Arab slave trade.

>endless source of we wuzzing
>endless source of "only whites took slaves"
>endless source of all sorts of stupidity

You can't discuss slavery in a historical context when all most people know was the Atlantic trade.
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>>2819203
They did though retard.
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>>2816972
>forgetting about the country where most of us have 90-110% north german ancestry, Brazil
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>Versailles was too harsh!
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>>2819581

true, only one village of theirs was removed utterly

however, the eternal blow to their prestige is acceptable
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>>2816427
But they were, you historically illiterate mong.
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>>2817083
WW1 was Britain's fault, the Great Depression was America's fault, WW2 was Britain and France's fault and the Cold War was both America's and the USSR's fault.
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>>2816793
>America deserved Pearl Harbor because they stopped selling oil to a regime they found morally and strategically distasteful
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>>2817073
>>2822091
Finally some people who recognize the eternal evil of perfidious Albion.
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>>2816427
>Germany started WW1
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>>2820525

there is not a lack of awareness in the US to existence of the Barbary pirates, our first conflict as a nation was action against them, our first commissioned super frigates took part in that scrap
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>>2819592

>he doesn't understand that living by the sword means death by the sword
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>>2816427
lol didn't stop them from bitching about this beautiful thing
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>>2816960
What the fuck does this have to do with the US? It was dragged, yet again, into another European war when it should have been only fighting a Pacific one

Also can someone explain to me what would've happened if Patton didn't bite it after WWII? Something tells me he would've pushed for a war against the Russians successfully
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>>2817083
Everything bad in the past 2008 years has been the fault of Germans. They will always work tirelessly to destroy Europe.
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>>2822144
Yes there is. I don't think you realize quite how oblivious the average person is to history.
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>>2819592
>that guy on the bottom left
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>>2822203

there were too many of them on that continent to pursue war, even with nuclear weapons, and of course they would have gotten nuclear weapons knowledge from their spies before we managed to defeat them.

I for one am fine with the way things turned out, overall, apart from what the easterner had to suffer at the mongol hands
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>>2822203

A 4 star who is not in the JCS has zero influence on geopolitical decisions.
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>>2822214

shrapnel and over pressure is a hell of a thing
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>>2822215
I know I'm drifting into the World of "What If?" bought the US could've opened a two front war with the Russians, US Army units in the Western Front and the Marine and Army units already in the Pacific on the Eastern Front

Just speculations but I think the US could've beaten Russia
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Battle of KarƔnsebes

Famous from a fucking Cracked article, this made up battle never fails to grind my fucking gears.
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>>2822286

never have I heard of it

and I read at least 1 out of 5 daily cracked articles
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>>2822314
It's from 08 or 09
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>>2817070
>Trillions of non human deaths on earth daily.
>SJW lush green earth,no extremophile bacteria exsist.

One is reality the other isnt only kek can show the way.

Has the chaos god taught you nothing?
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>>2822326

oh, hold a tick, that's the battle wherein the austrian army battled itself over gypsy liquor

feckin lel
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>>2819920
Fucking this.
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>>2816427
I know, right? If the Entente had even a scrap of honor, the world would be a much better place today.
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>>2817011
How's the eighth grade going there, edgelord?
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>>2819920

I suppose they would have had us surrender to the wicked machinations of that militant nation's government
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>>2822406
>wanting to prevent WW2 is edgy
It was the only viable solution.
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>>2822421

frog enabling is
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>>2816961
why, anon? are you threatening the safety of another member of this webbed site?
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>>2819249
Wir du sprechen, Mutterficker? Kampf mich in rl
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The Huns were simply darker looking caucasians, rather than people who looked similar to the Chinese.
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>>2816931
well the stab in the back literally did have some truth to it
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>>2819920
As an American kid I was always taught how reprehensible it was to drop those bombs on Japan only to grow up and realize Japan's horrific actions were absolutely incomparable to anything we did.
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>>2822523

I was not taught anything that declared a viewpoint on the morality of nuclear bombardment

it was war, the fire bombing of tokyo and other cities that is covered in classes alongside the nuclear bombs produced far greater yields in human suffering,

that's war though, it is not pretty, it is not a joyful experience, it is a hell
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>>2822523
>realize Japan's horrific actions were absolutely incomparable to anything we did.

You got no idea man, I was very fortunate to speak to many Marine vets in my short lifetime, they leveled with my frankly and honestly about the Japs since I was a Marine too, the things they had to endure is sobering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Qxmhc6j8U
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>>2817073
Success breeds jealousy.
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>>2822523
>me at age 10: dropping bombs on japan was bad!
>me at age 20: the japs practised cannibalism and cut open chinese baby vaginas to rape them better. we should have dropped more bombs.
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>>2822091
>WW2 was Britain and France's fault
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>>2822565

where the hell did you go to school where they told you that it was bad?

fuck's sake, did I grow up in an alternate reality?
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>>2819249
TOTAL WAR!!!
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>>2819249
Do you even realize why the Schlieffen Plan was a thing?
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>>2822565
>Me at age 15: "Dropping the bombs was justified because Japan was preparing for a devastating guerilla war on the home islands. Besides that, they deserve it for Pearl Harbor, and their atrocities against all of Asia and America
>Me at age 18: (The above) + they deserved the humiliation
>Me at age 20: They didn't get nuked nearly enough because they're sick fucks who make awful animation, do it again.
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>>2817083
>Franco Prussian War
France's fault for getting rused by Bismarck
>WWI
Russia's fault for aggressive posturing and intervening in a justified war
>WWII
The Triple Entente's fault for betraying German trust, ruining the German economy, and promoting an overall sense of irredentism within Germany by stripping her of historically German territories
>Cold War
Soviets' fault for the occupation of the Eastern Bloc
>Wars in the Middle East (and by extension, the refugee crisis)
Britain and France's fault for creating arbitrary and intentionally unstable states from their former colonies

Please grow up now
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>>2822577
Not those anons but I remember reading Sadako and folding paper cranes as a child so they were trying to make us feel sympathy for the Japanese from a young age. Not surprising since the U.S. is on good terms with Japan.
It was only in some high school elective years later did I learn about what Japan was actually doing.
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>>2822775
>reading Sadako and folding paper cranes as a child
They made us do this too.
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>>2819920
>the atomic bombs were worse than Allied firebombing raids
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>>2822569

>Turned a local war between Poland and Germany, whose explicit intentions were to go to war against the Soviets and only signed a non aggression pact with the USSR because France and UK was threatening war, and then proceeded to turn said local war into a continental wide war that didn't invade Germany when its back was turn whole in earnest, leaving the Poles to suffer at the hands of the Germans and Soviets, and then proceeded to sit around for literally half a year while Germany rested, raped Poland dry, rearmed and transferred troops west and took Europe in two months and stayed in control for 4 years, raping the fuck out of the rest of Western Europe and at the end of the war it in turn ended UK and France as major powers and saw a neutered Germany still assume the seat as the dominant European state within two decades of reunification.

Oh yeah, UK and France really thought that one out, didn't they? They were good boys who dindu nuffin. Bloody good show chaps
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>>2819920
I think dropping the atom bombs on Japan was understandable but I don't like how the Japanese ignore that many lot of the victims were Koreans they had forcibly brought over.
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>>2816941
Actually America stuck it's dick into Europe by it's own stupidity. Germany could never conquer the world, America would not even be affected if somehow Germany conquered the British Isles even though it's impossible. So who cares if France and Britain lose?
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>>2822798
LIES OF GOOK
YOU BEEN DECEIVED
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>>2822797
A justified local war, at that.
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>>2822798
That's true, the Japanese flat out refused to treat most of the Korean victims.
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>>2817016
You stupid American you don't have to side with Germany, simply don't join the war at all. You did not join France during the Napoleonic wars or the Franco Prussian war, so why ww1?
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>>2822801

I love how storm-fags constantly try to make America defending its long-established allies seem to be some diabolical plot. Britain is literally America's dad and France is like America's mom. The idea that they wouldn't support them is silly.
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>>2822813

Because Germany was sinking American ships with U-boats. You can't just attack American commerce without consequences.
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>>2822812
Why the fuck are nip so evil?
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>>2822826
The Koreans were like their slaves. They couldn't give a shit whether they lived or died.
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>>2822824
>Wilson declares that Germany cannot sink any ship, neutral or hostile, carrying weapons or not, if an American is on it
>Expecting Germany to comply
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>>2822836

>Expecting America to not respond to blatant attacks on American ships
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
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>>2822824

>Loading Ocean liners with ammunition after Imperial German Naval Attache's to Washington time and time again warn that actions have consequences.
>Become indignant when the Germans start sinking the ships.
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>>2822851
>forcing Germany to use unrestricted submarine warfare by rejecting their 1917 peace proposal
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>>2822864

if they want war then they damn well are going to get war rammed up their arse

cry your Teutonic tears elsewhere edgelord
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>>2822864
>Germany promises itself that it won't act underhanded and kill innocents this time
>They see innocents
>Give into temptations and act like savages
>The world gets together to stop them
>WOW WE DINDU NUFFIN
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>>2822871
>getting mad when Germans sink your precious ammunition ships

go cry your Anglo tears elsewhere, edgelord
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>>2822868
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>>2822824
Or trying to get Mexico to declare war on the United States.
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>>2822785
So should we infect Belgians with radiation for what they did in the Congo.
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>>2822881
>not even the correct war

Do it again, Bomber Gƶring
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>>2822887
We should inject Belgians with radiation for being Belgians above anything else.
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>>2822871
>>2822872

>Germans make a promise to not attack passenger ships
>Anglos literally using civilians as human shields to protect munitions
>Get butt blasted when when the Germans finally catch on

Oh Lord, I always wanted the eternal anglo meme to stay a meme.
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>>2822886
The Zimmermann Telegraph literally stipulated that only if the US declared war on Germany.

Also, the US had been violating Mexican sovereignty for years at that point.
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>>2822814
America's dad? You fought against them motherfucker. Also how am I a stormfag? This is ww1 not two you inbred. Also you never helped France in the Franco Prussian war. Only retards join war for sentimentality instead of real politic goals.
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>>2822864
>>2822868

The reasoning for attacking American vessels is irrelevant. You can't sink vessels belonging to a foreign country and expect that they'll just be okay with this.
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>>2822893
>Germans make a promise
>Break it
HOW UNEXPECTED
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>>2822906
>one country is an authoritarian, expansionist dictatorship
>other countries are democracies, historic US allies, and American trading partners
>why would you go to war to defend group B against group A
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>>2822871
Germany did not want war America did you cockgobler.
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>>2822814

relations surely are cordial at this point between the US and the UK, however shared history does not mean that there was any beholden consideration to act on their behalf you twit
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>>2822913
>Kaiserreich
>expansionist
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>>2822906

>Also you never helped France in the Franco Prussian war

Was Prussia sinking American ships with submarines? No? Okay then.
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>>2822891
So why get pissed when Germans invade Belgium?
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>>2822920
>declared war on Russia
>declared war on Belgium (after signing a treaty explicitly promising not to)
>declared war on France

I was actually talking about WW2 though.
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>>2822911

>Claim neutrality
>Arm one side only

You forfit the right to protection doing that
>>2822912

>Germans make a promise
>Anglos exploit it
>Morally outraged when they get caught red handed

REAL SHOCKING TURN OF EVENTS
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>>2822925
Because once Germany starts committing atrocities, they never stop until they get pulverized by other countries.
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> Before we implemented Socialist policies everyone was dying in the gutter, starved & without medical care or roads.

Pure distortion of history.
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>>2822913
The English were a fucking monarchy with colonies all over the world shit for brains. It was the Brits who were expansionist.
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>>2822926
Declaring war on them wasn't expansionism, though, it was in defense of Austria.
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>>2822930
>Germans make a promise
>Spend 100 years justifying why it was okay to break it and murder innocents
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>>2822930

>Unless you sell weapons to everybody on the planet, you're not "neutral" and it is okay for people to sink your ships
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MEIN GOTT
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>>2822934
Brown people don't count towards this.

Even the US was annexing brown people land at that point, it's just the white man's burden.
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>>2822911
German ambassadors gave American merchant companies fair warning that sailing near the continent could get them sunk
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>>2822934

British expansionism resulted in the creation of the US. It would be silly to hold that against them.
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>>2822931
They are punishing the Belgians for the congo.
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>>2822913

>UK, the country who forced their entire empire into a war that had no benefit to them, and in the case of the browner countries, were still virtual slaves by any other name were the good guys.
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>>2822947

So? Giving somebody a warning doesn't make it okay to murder them.
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>>2822939
>actively support the war effort of one country
>expect their enemies to sit back and take it
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>>2822934
>Germany under Wilhelm II
>not expansionist
wew
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>>2822949
They saw something shiny and their barbaric brains went "GIBES ME DAT" and plunged the world into war.
>>
>>2822954
What could israel possibly gain from saying that nuking Japan was unjustified?
>>
>>2822954

get fucked, the US is still the best hope for mankind

you scum
>>
>>2822950

>Good and evil
>Not spooks

>>2822955

>Geopolitics is about being fair
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>>2822958
Jews fear the Samurai as they are a model homogenous prosperous nigh crime free nation, Anon.
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>>2822939

The Swiss maintained their neutrality as did Sweden who sold material to both sides.

Arm one side in that bitter a conflict, and you better expect the blow back.
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>>2822952
Being stupid enough to sail into a warzone does
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>>2822959
t. 53% white with a fucking cheeto and his kike daughter currently ruling over him
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>>2822956
No, not anymore than the UK the Germans wanted colonies, but if the Brits can have them why can't Germany?
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>>2822961
The samurai's weaknesses have proven to be air power and nuclear weapons, both of which Israel has. I wouldn't be fearing the samurai if I were israel.
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ITT:
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>>2822970
*collapses behind u*
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>>2822960
>says geopolitics isn't fair
>believes that Germany fighting this inequality is evil

Why are Ententefags immune to reason?
>>
Just to say this out loud, I am having the most fun on this thread then I have ever had since /his/ started. I think it's because ww1 is pretty open ended compared to the sequel.
>>
>>2822965

I'd actually love to take my boot sheathed anglophone foot and shove it up your ass
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>>2822964

Attempting to restrict American trade in an way, shape, or form is plenty of cause for war. And Germany would have lost regardless. America just entered the war to speed up the process so that the u-boats would finally go away.
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>>2822978
Agree. It's fun to see both sides explode with autism.
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>Reminder that Canada left German/Hungarian/Ukrainian/Austrians Canadians in internment camps until the early 1920's

Truly the good guys.
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>>2822977

>It's okay for Germany to go to war to protect its interests
>America is evil for doing the exact same thing
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>>2822981
America entered the war only slightly before Russia collapsed, so no, the Entente would not have won.
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>>2822983

as I recall canada waited damn near the 50s to let their own japanese internees out

lord knows all I ever hear about is the horrible crime of detaining some 100k japs in the US till the end of the war, and here canuks get off scott free, life ain't fair
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>>2822981

>America playing any form of role in the victory against the Hun

France and the British would wipe out the Boche without you lot pissing around Paris for 6 months.
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>>2822980
You're not even white enough to be an Anglo, Amerimutt.
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>>2822995

poor role playing

france was nearing collapse, germany would have won a strong peace with your tired old dogs
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>>2822995

That's literally what I said. Germany would have lost with or without American intervention. But American intervention helped bring the war to a swift close whereas it otherwise would have dragged on for years.
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>>2822986
What interests were there in Europe? Seriously America in the new world should not care or get involved in old world struggles.
>>
>>2822743
They've stopped having babies. We don't need any nukes to depopulate them,
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>>2822997

you presume much

I presume you are three chinese men operating a contraption that allows them to function at human height
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>>2822986
Or maybe I just don't think my countrymen should've gotten involved in a foreign war that had nothing to do with them
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>>2816842
>and rapes the shit out of it
Good to see people are still using propaganda talking points 100 years later
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>>2823001

>What interests were there in Europe?

Stopping the U-boats that were sinking American ships. You can't just sink American vessels and get away with it.
>>
>>2823001

markets for exports, don't you know anything?

as well as classical centers for art and sciences, not to mention that many americans had families in that part of the world
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>>2823006

>Just sit back and let your fellow countrymen get drowned by u-boats
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>>2819920
We needed at least 4.
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>>2823001
>trading partners
>collecting that war debt from UK and France
>>
>>2823014
>what is the Quasi-War
>>
>>2823022

>What is freedom of the seas
>>
>>2823018
>lose 279 men a day for over a year because those merchants insist on shipping guns to Britain
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>>2823022

>france backs down on fucking with US shipping
>crisis averted

>britain doesn't pay attention and decides that going full ham isn't ham enough
>>
Was losing all your power through a self inflicted wound worth it to stop Germany from a reasonable expansion in to Africa and a small increase in influence on the world stage?
>>
>>2823028

who are you to tell them what to export

you fucking dictator
>>
>>2823036
t. Rothbard
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>>2823028

>Against selling guns

You're not even American.
>>
>>2823040
t. Jessup Slimms
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>>2822954
>Patriotic Jews dying for my country caused us to lose!
>>
>>2823036
>>2823040

I'd be more sympathetic if they were sinking boats that held raw material and not fucking armaments already made. At least then you could make the argument it wasn't for attacking the Germans.
>>
>>2823045
No, scheming jews in the US forcing them into a war caused Germany to lose, Germany's jews were based which was why Hitler made sure they all safely made it to Palestine
>>
>>2822993
>as I recall canada waited damn near the 50s to let their own japanese internees out
lmao, and even then they basically told them to go back to japan or go to some shithole in the prairies since all their possessions in BC had been auctioned off.
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>>2823048
So that's why Jews in Germany were persecuted.
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>>2823055
They were given a free way out, what are you on about?
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>>2823058
Of course they were, bullets were practically free to produce
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>>2823061
Read about the Haavara agreement you pleb
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>>2823066
Too bad it was thrown out quickly
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>>2819920
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>>2823070
Time to post the whole set.
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>>2823066

>Helping 60,000 Jews leave the country while also stealing most of their stuff totally makes up for killing 6,000,000 Jews later on
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>>2823076
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>>2823070
They aren't denying American war crimes. It's just that Japan was much worse, and American kids being taught to feel guilty over the bombs while skipping over what the Japanese did is retarded.
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>"hmmm the Germans are bombing us what should we do?"
"I know, let's show off our moral high ground by bombing them even harder and make civilians a priority... oh, but don't worry we'll call it 'De-housing'!"
>"Capital idea!"

War ends

>Hmmm, them nazis were bad boys we should put them on trial."
>"What about the Luftwaffe for all the bombing they did and the Kriegsmarine for all the ship sinking they did?"
>"Good idea...oh, wait... we did everything they did and turned it up to 11, didn't we? Would look kind of silly if they pointed that out in open court. Damn, now I'm feeling down about this whole thing"
>"Oh, don't worry sir. We can always trial Rudolf Hess and that Sauckel for war crimes!"
>>
>>2823076
do these kinds of people even exist?
>>
>>2823096
You're right. My bad.
>>
>>2823070
Being a POW of Britain or the USA was unironically the best option if you're going to surrender to an enemy. My stepgrandad was a Panzer IV crewman who served in Africa and he said that he wished a British unit captured him rather than a free France unit.
>>
>>2823115
Yes, Italiboos do exist.
The italians themselves have a few who go full Mussolini dindu nuffin wrong (to the point of making his mistresses hotel getaway a museum and making his grave a small shrine.
>>
>>2823096
Japan literally did nothing wrong, all those war crime accusations are just racist americans making up shit to demonize non whites
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>>2816973
I love this image so much
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>>2823145
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>>2823182
Do Japs call people gooks?
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>>2823070
>>2823076
>>2823080
>>2823182
Anyone got more of these?
>>
>>2823200
The ones that speak English do.
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>>2823200

Pepe is damn versatile.
>>
>>2823103
Don't start shit, won't be shit.
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>>2823203
Romania did nothing wrong.
>>
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>>2817083
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>>2822504
No it didn't. The German Revolution wasn't led by Jews, but sections of the military tired of fighting.

The Sparticist uprising happened when the revolution was well underway and was crushed by other revolutionary factions.
>>
>>2816960
>1871
>France is defeated and given an insanely harsh treaty, forced to give up its most industrialized region and pay 5 billions of franc-or, effectively leading to a massive inflation of Germany because it is just that much money
>France still manages to go over this slight and starts building itself back slowly

>1918
>France, which has a much smaller population than Germany, is now bled dry, ravaged, with many of its citizens having suffered through trenches and forced work after a german agression, asks for reparation and guarantees that Germany doesn't attack again.
>"HOLY SHIT FRANCE HOW CAN YOU BE SO CRUEL YOU CUNT ?! I'LL BUILD BACK AN ARMY, AND YOU BETTER LET ME ANNEX WHATEVER EUROPEAN COUNTRY I WANT OR I'LL DOMINATE YOU !"

Krautlovers are the cancer of /his/.
>>
>>2817083
>>2823366
>destruction of roman empire
>wars of religion
>world wars
>immigrants and liberalism

the eternal teuton never stops with it's destruction does it?
>>
>>2816427
I think Britain starving an entire country is pretty bad
>>
>>2816942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
Actually that was the limeys and their jew blockade tactics
>>
>>2817011
If France didn't mobilize against Germany there wouldn't have been World War I
>>
>>2823480
>At around 6:00 a.m. on 2 August 1914, Leutnant Albert Mayer and his small cavalry patrol illegally crossed the French border. They did not meet resistance, as the French had moved their troops back 10 km (6.2 mi) from the border, to avoid provoking the Germans and to show good faith in their attempts to avoid war. Twice that morning as the German party advanced further into France, they exchanged fire with small groups of French infantry. At 9:50 a.m., Mayer slashed with his sabre at (but did not injure) a French sentry, who was on lookout at the entrance to Joncherey. Jules Andre Peugeot and four other soldiers were at their billet eating breakfast at the time. The daughter of the owner of the house came back inside from fetching water and reportedly said "The Prussians! The Prussians are coming!"[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skirmish_at_Joncherey
>>
>>2822286
The first mention of it is from some stupid book about funny historical anecdotes
>>
>>2823427
>forced to give up its most industrialized region
Do you have a source for Elsass-Lothringen being the most industrialized region in France in 1871?
>>
>>2823693
Not that guy and I don't know how *industrialized* it was, but it certainly was one if not the most important coal/iron deposit of France at the time.
>>
>>2822930
Except America armed both sides
Germans complained because more was sold to the British, not realising Britain is just richer than Germany
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>>2820531
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>>2822947
>and I say to the international banking clans do not attack if you fear the persecution of your people
>*Britain declares war on Germany*
>wtf you can't prosecute me for genocide I warned them
>>
>>2816830
your country is directly responsible for 30 million deaths post-ww2
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>>2817028
You should tell the member States of the CSA this
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>>2817028
>>2823881
Because they are the ones who chipped out after Lincoln's election over "MUH negro slaves!" So it's only a simplification of the casus belli not an oitright fabrication.
>>
>>2816427
>WW1
>"Allies", not "Entente"
>>
>>2823475
>hey, take care of my dog because I don't want to look after it any more
>no man, I don't want to take care of your dog
>*stabs dog* LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO
>>
>>2822797
>>2822804
Could you BE any more of a wehraboo?
>>
But it was the French.
They used Ethyl bromoacetate in Summer 1914
>>
>>2816427
But the first use of chemical weapons in ww1 was the french using teargas.
>>
>>2824252
yes, tear gas is completely equivalent to chlorine gas

that's why you see the police using chlorine against protestors all the time
>>
>>2824012

Allies is the Entente plus the US you tard.
>>
>>2824277
One side takes the first step, then the other takes the next one, that's just how it goes from there.
>>
>>2822906
>Brits are monarchist cucks
>Fight them
>Later they ditch monarchy in all but appearance
>Be buds
>"WTF YOU GUYS FOUGHT WHY ARE YOU FRIENDS?"

And we fought an enormous war with, neutered and humiliated Japan less than a hundred years ago, and yet they have a higher approval rating of the US than any European country.

What's your point?
>>
>>2823070
There's a good two things in there that aren't either justified or wholly true
>>
>>2824103
>reclaiming lands which belonged to the Prussian crown since the 1600s
>not justified
>>
>>2823693
Being that the discovery of coal and iron ore in the Nord-Pas-de-Calais around the 1880s were hailed as a miracle, and that the French enthuthiastically saw from it that it could substitute the loss of Alsace-Lorraine, then yah, I don't think there's any dissent on how economically preponderant the region was.

Also,
>calling it Elsass-Lothringen to sound cool
Shoo shoo American.
>>
>>2822906

>You fought against them motherfucker.

Only a moron would hold permanent grudges.
>>
>>2822406
You tell me
>lel the nazis were right im so woke XDXD

Versialles did jackshit, Germany lost nothing, some territories where Germans were minority and had to pay money.

Look at fucking Austria and Hungary. Hungary was literally economically destroyed, they left them some fucking corn fields and the capital city, Austrians also lost every status quo they had, every territory they had, and both countries had both 3-3 million ethnic minority, most of them right next to the border (south Slovakia, Transylvani, or Tyrol, suteden German).

This, right here is a real punishment. Or just look at Germany after WW2 and today, that IS a punishment. Losing literally useless land and paying money is nothing.
>>
>Hitler did something wrong
>>
>>2824832
You seem rather upset :^)
>>
>>2824832
Money that they barely paid anyway.
>>
>>2823115
They are hardly brought up, so the arguments made in the image are mostly things that were said back then and immediately after the war.

But as >>2823133 said, Italians defending Mussolini to death do exist.
>>
>>2817011o>>2822259
The US absoloutley would have beaten Russia. Russia raped and pillaged its way from Stalingrad to Berlin. They didn't have any sort of supply chains to maintain the army through a retreat if the US came knocking
>>
>>2817083
Great Leap Forward
Cambodia
Spanish Flu
>>
>>2825291
Jesus christ, the Germans did Cambodia?
>>
>>2825295
Obviously they did

They were also behind 9/11
>>
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>Charles did anything wrong
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>>2825295
They did found communism and then arrange for it to takeover Russia.
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That the atomic bombs lead to japanese surrender
everytime i hear some american reddit tier historian sprout shit about ww2 i get triggered
"le we won the european war" meme is the worst tho desu
>>
That the atomic bombs didn't lead to Japanese surrender or that the US didn't win the European theater for the allies.
>>
The only people I've met irl who thought the nukes were bad were literal communists.
>>
>>2823127

Maybe your stupid grandfather shouldn't have surrendered
>>
>>2825843

We could have firebombed the japs into submission too

I think that would have been fun
>>
>>2823864
Source? Sounds pretty commie to me.
>>
>>2822483
Begone, Turkroach
>>
>>2816427
>>
>>2825295
>sabotage Russian war effort by smuggling Lenin into the country
>with German help he takes over the country
>communism spreads from there on
>>
>>2823070
Plenty of atrocities in that gif but less than half of them are war crimes. Japanese Internment was a domestic affair.
>>
>>2824284
>someone breaks my window with a rock
>I proceed to break their window with a grenade
Who's more at fault?
>>
>>2823070
I dont think we deny those things, we just put them under the "war is hell" section.

Also we learn why Japanese internment was bad in school, the whole problem with war trophies and mutilation of corpses is pretty well covered up though.
>>
>>2823076
why does this not mention Ethiopian chemical warfare and gassing of civilians?
>>
>>2826350
He violated the NAP.
Full retaliatory activity is both justified and expected.
>>
>>2826404
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>>2823011
>ZULUS ATTACK!
>>
>>2826404
reminder that lobertarians are subhuman hedonists
>>
>>2826567
>hedonist
I was joking about the ancap thing, but if you say that freedom is hedonistic, then you're really talking about human nature rather than libertarianism.
>>
>>2823421
The communist attempt at seizing power was all jews.
>>
>>2826666
>Satan opposes god's chosen people

Not surprising
>>
>>2822849
>you are ppoor stink turkā€¦
Almost got it.
>>
>>2823427
Have you never heard of Revanchism? France was literally calling for German blood and obsessed with taking back Alsace and Loraine. Their military was purposely rebuilt so as to be superior to Germany's so as to beat them, and why children in France were literally being taught to become soldiers so as to gain revenge for the Franco-Prussian War.
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>>2826666
>>2822504
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>>2826875
Revanchisme is a German myth.
>>
No side was evil in the war. Each side were made of empires with their own self-interest at heart when participating.
>>
>>2819592
Jesus, reconstructive surgery used to be so noble.

Now it's more profitable to pump up some bimbos lips, tits, ass, or whatever flesh-meme is popular.

Where did it go wrong?
>>
>>2826302
>based Pier smashing the Dark Heart of some chocolate babes
>>
>>2816427
>there was no commie genocide of european christian people
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