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Swedish scientists confirm that first Swedes were black

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https://www.svt.se/nyheter/vetenskap/de-var-de-forsta-svenskarna

Were the first Swedish people really black?

It blows my mind, but it must be true.

Thoughts?
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>>2814678
So it has gone full circle
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>>2814678
>Swedes

Hahahahahahaha
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>>2814678
>dark skinned

As in swarthy, like a Greek, not tanned like a nigger.
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>>2814678
Sensationalism has officially taken science
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>>2814678
Time to kick the snowniggers out, they are not true Swedes
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Wtf that is retarded lol
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>>2814678
So even the swedes scientists are cucked were they getting plastered by Jamal while studying this?
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>>2814678
This is some CK2 level portraiture.
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>>2814678
It's retarded to think they weren't black or at least darker than native swedes currently are. Swedes would have migrated from hotter, sunnier areas where the melanin would have protected their skin from the sun's rays. Only after living in the dark cold shithole of Sweden for generations would the lack of melanin have been realized in their phenotype.
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>>2814678
>dark skin
>blue eyed
did they have straight hair? if so these proto- europeans would look very bizarre almost like fantasy drow
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>>2815182

They were swarthy, not black. Libshits love to interpret "dark" as meaning "they wuz niggers", but in fact they would have looked like any modern blue-eyed Italian or Greek.
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Sounds like wishful thinking.
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>>2815236
well that was my point even if they where pitch black they wouldn't be modern west African.
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White genocide is real
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>All this Swede hate

Go back to pol, unironically. This entire thing is a pol thread from the start. If you believe the out of africa theory, most migrants are going to be genetically fit for the african climate.

The article itself says that the first humans came from what is now Spain, Luxembourg and Germany (not France)
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Yes, with the reasoning that they ought to have the same skin colours as people living in Luxemburg, Germany and Spain at the time. And those people are considered to be black since they're basically straight out of Africa.
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>>2815282
>If you believe the out of africa theory
Uh, this has been refuted since forever.
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>>2814720
>As in swarthy, like a Greek, not tanned like a nigger.

Keep telling yourself that, albino
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>>2815307
I love how you spam "Everyone knows Out Of Africa has been refuted" in every single thread, and then disappear.

Even though if you Google out of africa, there's no evidence that it's been refuted everywhere, and even though you can never offer any evidence whatsoever to support your claim other than mumbling about Neanderthals (who don't make up more than 5% of the DNA of any population on this planet)

You just keep repeating and hoping that it will memetically become accepted as truth without any facts supporting it.
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>they had dark skin therefore they were black African
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>>2815333
Welcome to /pol/.
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>>2815381
It wasn't black African it was merely Equatorial people migrating north. Light skin only derives with Neolithic expansion, not adaption to northern clines atleast in Europe.
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>>2814793
Finally someone not retarded.

People emigrating from southern incredibly sunny areas intodarker and less sunny northern areas won't turn white over a generation, the descendants become paler and paler.
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>>2814678
I wouldnt trust anything coming out of svt
More than 80% working there votes left
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Hey guys, I'm so excited because Kareem just gave me internet privileges in the shed when he and Lisa have their private time. Anyways, was wondering if you know of any good Lego sets coming out? I'll have to ask Kareem for some extra allowance before I buy but it's fun to think about in the meantime!
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>>2815672
>Sven Bjornsön
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>>2815384
/pol/ promotes it. It helps the "more evolved" idea of everyone vs blacks
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>>2815672
This has nothing to do with the thread.
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>>2814678
Well I mean it makes sense.

All humans migrated out from Africa and any peoples that migrated to colder climates would've retained their darker skin for some time.
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>>2815771
Sorry. I'm kind of new to the internet since I'm not allowed to use it most of the time but hopefully Kareem will move in with us which means I'll get to have more time in the shed.
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>>2814793
This. Lower melanin levels were an adaptation to the lower amounts of vitamin D the body can absorb from the sun in Scandinavian countries with less average yearly sunlight.
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>>2815319
t.lefty white kid
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>>2815655
Translate that? also isn't the white population in Sweden now at 75%??
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>>2815709
Nupol is pro Arab pro Jewish just anti leftie and sometime anti black pol is trash now
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>>2814793
why the fuck would they move to a place with no sun in the first place and then stay there for generations?
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>>2816002
No, a little less then 25% of Sweden's population is made up of immigrant families, and a lot of those countries that they derive from are other European nations, Finland making up the highest immigrant base.
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>>2815282
>implying swede hate isn't an /int/ thing
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>>2814678
The first everybody were black

But calling them Swedes is inappropriate because that identity was so completely foreign to this time period
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>>2816050
This, it's like calling ancient inhabitants of Britain the first English or Iberians the first Spanish.

It's safe to assume the first inhabitants of what is now Sweden didn't even speak a Germanic language.
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So Ben Franklin was right?

>Why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

>Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased
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>>2814678
The first swedes were neanderthals.
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>>2814793
All Europeans originated from a pale skin group of humans in the Caucacus region so there has never ever been a brown Swedish human ever.
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>>2816050
Blacks are a Sub Saharan type of human that never stepped foot beyond Africa, there was no black ancestor of any of us, we just have a common ancestor with THEIR COMMON ANCESTOR.
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>>2816145
Source?
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>>2815319
Wow, you sure showed us.
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>>2816029
If you were to guess it'll still be 82% white
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>>2815282
I'm not even swede but all this anti swede nonsense is retarded. Most of it is just americans who are jealous they dont have the same services as them. US really is a third world country on the inside.
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>>2816529
Sweden also considers sex without a condom rape.
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>>2816029
If by swedes you mean ethnic swedes then it's more like 50%. As for the rest, something like 15% "white" europeans and asians, with the remaining 35% being a clusterfuck of brown skin, dark eyes and dark hair. In the larger cities it's even less white. Something around 60% of stockholms suburbs are 99% brown because no whites want to stay there after a certain point. If sweden were ever to run out of money to keep these areas stable there would be absolute chaos. It's already chaos but i'm talking the sub-saharan kind of chaos.
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Daily reminder that the first humans were white, like how chimps have pale skin that is how the first humans would've looked.

Negroes came after us.
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>>2815236
>but in fact they would have looked like any modern blue-eyed Italian or Greek.
:^)
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>>2816536
Yea maybe for whites lmao
Nice try sven
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>>2816641
Are you trying to tell me that there is technically less whites in Sweden then America ?lmao 50%
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>>2816647
what.....
Do you have any proof?
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>>2814678
>swedish scientists
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>>2816647
we diverged from chimps millions of years ago, pretty sure we darkened shortly after losing our hair
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>>2814678
THEY WUZ VIKANGZ
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how can Sweden be this fucked, i mean like wtf.
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>>2816918
Don't they just give community service to rapes for undocumented Arabs? In a year rape will b legal
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>>2814687
>Sweden then
But that's a Ukrainian woman at the front and an Australian male behind her.
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>>2814732
A "genuine" Swedish mudslimer we've got there.
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I hope defeating the east danes was worth it :D
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>>2814793
They aren't Swedes though. The Swedes are a distinct ethnicity.
That's like calling Cro-Magnon men French.
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>>2816641
Ah yes, only 50% of Sweden is white, no matter where you go in Sweden, half the people is not white! I'm sure you've been there yourself and not making shit up
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>>2816007
/pol/ was always trash.
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>>2818386
Sort of a given that Swedes in this context simply means someone living in the area occupying current day Sweden and not the ethnicity nor a Swedish citizen.
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>>2816641
Oh please, it's more like 25% white. Probably 15% in a few months.
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>>2818419
It's actually 5% white
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>>2814678

Nothing surprises me anymore
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>>2818402
At least it had funny banter it doesn't even have that anymore
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>>2814678
No you fucking pleb. How dumb do you need to blindly trust this shit?
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>>2819316
>scientific community has a discovery that is backed by facts, logic and experience

>I'm not supposed to trust them
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Why do niggers go to such great lenghts to latch onto white culture and whiteness itself?
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>>2819355
>Sweden
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>>2814678
WHAT THE FUCK
I'm swedish and wtf is this marxist jewish bs?

SvT is state media btw.
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>>2818428
Sure but that's included Finnish immigrants, making up roughly 5% of Sweden. Without them, Sweden is 0% white.
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>>2819736
It's literally based on data from central Europe.
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Well. Darkish tribes certainly travelled into northern Europe after the last Ice Age 10k years ago. They originated Iberian peninsula and they are thought to be ancestors of Sami people. Samis haven't "evolved" whiter no matter how long they have inhabitated North Europe.

These folks and maybe others were finally surpassed by Caucasians with their tech and language. They were generically whiter.
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>>2816008
It has farmland.
Same reason that once you reach 69 degrees or so, there is no more real population centers north of it, before modern times.
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>>2816999
...not him but both are quite clearly of scandi descent.
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>>2814678

So what if the first Swedes were black? That just means modern Swedes evolved into something better.

>he doesn't have 1-4% Neanderthal DNA
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They may have been darker skinned but not African if they arrived from warmer areas of the world

The question is how will this be weaponized to appease the African and Arab invaders in Sweden currently? How much truth is there to the article? I can't read Swede
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>>2814678
>Were the first Swedish people really black?

Swedes never heard of Basques?
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>>2818395
Korrekt, har aldrig varit i sverige. Lärde mig svenska enbart för att kunna driva med folk på internet.
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>>2822391
What makes you say that?
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>>2819736
>Yes.
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>>2814678
lol taking anything svt says serisly, they are controlled by pc leftist
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>>2822516
Basques got cucked into oblivion by the Indo Europeans.
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This thread is missing some key information.
These darkies from SW Europe indeed were the first people in Scandinavia after the ice age age BUT they got BLEACHED by some incoming Russian aboriginals who arrived via Finland.
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>>2814678
'Swede' is a social construct. Borders aren't real.
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>>2820912
>Samis haven't "evolved" whiter no matter how long they have inhabitated North Europe.

Sami were forcefully whitened by Norwegian, Swedish and Finnish governments. They're mixed with them to the point there is no discernible difference.
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>>2824794

Nah, this isn't true. There's multiple Sami DNA samples on GEDmatch and they are all morbidly inbred. They haven't mixed much with outsiders in thousands of years. Mixed people became absorbed into the more prestigious mainstream ethnicites.
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>>2814678
>even in their computer mock up they make the man significantly darker than the woman

the ride truly never ends
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>>2814678
When will they learn.
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WTF I hate Swedish identity now
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>>2824472
Wrong, everyone else did but the basque.
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>>2824891
You're completely wrong. Basque peoples have one of the highest proportions of the R1b haplotype in the world.

It's actually uncanny.
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>>2824891
>"I'm retarded"
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>>2814678
>Were the first Swedish people really black?

Everywhere there are people, black people were first. We are the original man. Whites have only been around for 6,000 years MAX. We've literally been around 150,000 years atleast. There's not one inch of this earth white people were at before black people. It's a scientific fact.
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>>2826165
Shut the fuck up, nigger
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>>2814678
No, it's not true; it's just more Jewish propaganda
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>>2826165
Whites will be triggered but it's true. The oldest humans in found in EVERY single place in the world have been African shaped. America, Europe, Asia, literally everywhere. Black people have been all over the world
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>>2826165
>Whites have only been around for 6,000 years MAX.
Please kys.
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>>2826244
>The oldest humans in found in EVERY single place in the world have been African shaped.
Proofs with Citations?
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>>2826265
It's true. Blue eyes haven't been around for that long. It was a MUTATION.
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>>2826277
Blue eyes are not needed to have White skin.
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>>2826277
>It was a MUTATION.
Every single change in nature is a mutation, idiot.
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>>2826280
Asians have white skin, they are still asian. It's a fact the black man has been in Europe hundreds of thousands of years before whites even existed. We taught you everything you know.
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>>2824886
>blood splatters don't match up

but y?
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>>2826291
>blacks been around for 150000 years
>whites around for only 10000 years
>blacks still only live and huts and haven't advanced technology beyond peanuts, the blood transfusion, seat belts, and spears
Really makes one use their cognitive ability, does it not?
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>>2826496>>2822432
>blacks been around for 150000 years
No they haven't, that >>2826291
anon is wrong and the article makes no claim they were black as we know today>>2814678
>The first Swedes were dark-skinned and blue-eyed hunters and gatherers who wandered into Scandinavia from the south after the Ice Age ended about ten thousand years ago.
They were cro-magnons, it's not some big secret. Neither whites or blacks really existed at the time so it's fruitless for >>2826165 or >>2819380
to project modern politics or identity all over it because they always put their cart before the horse. OP was more click baitey than the actual link.
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>>2826608
I was using what he said against him anon
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>>2826165
There isn't a single place on this earth that HASN'T at one point been black. As much as whites hate to admit it, we are the original man. You can't get black from white, but you can get white from black. It's not afro-centrism to admit this. They've found African skulls in America, Israel, Egypt, everywhere they look.
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>>2814720
prove it
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>>2826277
>Blue eyes <==> White
I want /pol/ to leave
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>>2826244
So this means that african humans are the most primitive on earth making any racist bias against them valid, you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>2826608
According to Petralona man, the Europid human physiology has existed since 200,000 B.C making the origin of humans far older in the past like say 900,000 B.C.

This also means that races are even more genetically locked than we think if racial groups had the same traits 200,000 years B.C, and may also indicate that blacks are essentially another hominids species depending on how ancient their origin is at my best guess its around 700,000 B.C.
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>>2814678

This is so fucking retarded.

Even the hunter gatherers in spain didn't look nearly that dark.

This is obvious propaganda.
The hunter gatherers in all of europe had lighter skin than a fucking negro, even if they had "darker" skin than the farmers from the east.
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>>2824927

>haplogroups

Huh, basque are clearly not indo european in admixture, the most indo european are the peoples around the baltic and north seas
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>>2829027
It's from svet news website the same website that advocates to have sex with refugees for sympathy and that the native men of Sweden are not healthy enough to procreate.When they say swedens cucked its an understatement those "scientists" were probably raped by Somalis
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>>2816647
correct however it was not modern nor archaic homo sapiens but some type WAY before we ever came around. i apologize for not knowing the names of that hominid.

>>2816901
this is correct too. but again, it was our predecessors, not homo sapiens that experienced this change. when we came along, we were dark skinned and hairless (for the most part). as homo sapiens spread out across the globe, our different phenotypes began to take shape. thus, ancient humans headed towards the north were darker skinned but after centuries and centuries and centuries of staying in that particular geography we became adapted. in this case, lighter skinned according to the sunlight.
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>>2829216
>tfw your mainstream news is thinly veiled femdom cuckold fetish fuel
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>>2830506
You better get out now Sven (((they)))re))) going to make rape legal
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>>2829027
The article doesn't appear to claim that they were "black". Is the only propaganda is how light or dark the image is? How does OP's tone compare to Africans and how do we know what the exact tone was?
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my sami ass. fucking scandinavians liberal cuckolds.
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>>2824747
Actually, if you want to go that route, samples taken from an ANE (Ancient North Eurasian) from 14,000BC, found in Mongolia, had the gene for Blond hair.

Myself? I don't believe all mutations spread like a disease.
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>>2818395
Not that anon, but at least the Stockholm metropolitan region is completely dark. I travelled to Sweden by ferry from Poland and took a regional train from the port Nynäshamn to Stockholm that drives through several bleak and decaying suburbs. I swear I only saw one white person on that train and even that one guy looked gay. Otherwise it was full of gypsies listening to loud music and women gypsies plucking their mustache, central asian looking dwarves in tight pants and doused in cheap cologne, and many hijab wearing Somalis. It was a dreadful experience.
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>>2814678
Haven't you read Nietzsche? Only /pol/ will be angered by this
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>>2830826
Anon, it was over 10,000 years ago and skull structure still looks Caucasoid in the image.
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>>2815319
This looks like a brown german with a big nose
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>>2815319

> The latest results of anthropological studies of bone remains from the earliest Upper Paleolithic burial discovered on Russian territory, the Markina Gora site (Kostenki 14), are described. Multivariate statistical methods and parallel studies of the buried skull structure and dentition established that their morphological characteristics undoubtedly belonged to the Caucasian complex.

> http://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S1019331617010099

So not a Negro at all.
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Black != African Americans

Of course the early Europeans were "black", it took like 20,000 years to become white.
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>>2830995

See this, from 34,000BC
>>2830986


They are Caucasoid.
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>>2830984
Yeah I kinda see it. I can see how at first glance it looks a bit black like in the mouth, but I guess most of the other features line up with Caucasoids
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>>2826165
Real shit
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>>2829216
Why are you making shit up?
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Even modern science acknowledge huge evolution gap between (actually two gaps)
1st) between Homo Erectus and Homo Sapiens (3m BC to 6K BC)
2nd) Genome purge (bottle-neck effect) circa 200K BC

Basically when researchers of Human Genome sit down with Human Evolution experts - they can't find any answers for these two "jumps", neither can anyone explain why we have 2 chromosomes less compared to any of our kin mammals. Neither our genetic flaws (our genome contains over 4K inheritable gen. defects altogether, while any other species have below 200 in average)
The gap in science leaves open doors for crazy theories (UFO, pre-historic civilizations being on higher tech level then we are... etc)
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>>2830819

We don't, but the article implies they looked as dark as fucking niggers clearly, just look at the image in the article which is the same as in the OP.

Also, read the article and it does feel like some /pol/fag wrote it for bait purposes, that's how bad it is.
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>>2832942

They were from Spain and had a marine diet so lots of vitamin D. They had no use for light skin. They could have even been pitch black.

Tasmanian aboriginals also lived at latitudes similar to Spain and had dark skin.

It was the inland aboriginals from Russia who had light skin. When the dark skin and light skin groups merged in Scandinavia the light skin gene became dominant as it was more useful in the Scandinavian climate.
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>>2826291
>Asians have white skin
No such thing as "white" skin.
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>>2814720
Yea Greeks aren't that swarthy
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>>2830826
Samis are even more liberal then native swedes tho
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>>2814678
the first humans were of african phenotype because they came from africa
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>>2833310

Northern Sweden is super leftist in general because everyone is poor and retarded. It's not like Sweden has actual consevatives though, even SD loves gay priders just not the immigrants.
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>>2814678


We wuz cuck n shiett
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Neanderthals are often depicted as white but is there any evidence of this? is this purely because Europe is dark and cold but Eskimos and Inuits are not very pale. They covered an era from Palestine to Spain would their skin colour vary? if skin color lightened very recently in humans with some scientist arguing the start of farming may have started it why would the Neanderthals be necessarily pale?
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>>2832833
I'm not you twat
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>>2833463
Why would they shitskins?
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>>2833335
You realize Africa has many phenotypes, right?
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>>2833560
well why wouldn't they? it just bugs me that reproduction documentary s portray Neanderthals as modern Europeans and homo sapiens as modern west Africans
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>>2828824
If anything, that would be /int/.
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>>2833193

It's white but being so thin it lets the flesh colour show underneath
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>>2814678
We Wuz Swedes an Sheit
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>>2833463
European latitude meaning they would be white skinned, the Neanderthals in the middle east(the ones we mixed with) were probably brown.

Seeing how humans work this also means that neanderthals would also have racial groups.

The neanderthal equivalent of a nigger is horrifying to even imagine.
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>>2833707
the first homo-sapiens were phenotypically similar to what you'd find in SSA though. maybe not exactly like any group today though

>>2833562
SSA
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>>2835844
but im talking about the first out of Africa homo sapiens im talking about Neanderthals and proto Europeans
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>>2829011
That's not how evolution works retard.
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>>2833463
Inuits aren't pale because they almost exclusively eat fish which is high in vitamin D. As such they had no need to develop lighter skin in order to absorb more vitamin D from the sun.

While there are many European societies that eat fish as well, it's not done to the extreme of the Inuit.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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