I've often heard Japan preserved the ancient chinese culture better than the chinese themselves. I know Japan was heavily influenced by the Tang, but is there some truth in this claim?
How can they preserve the Chinese culture better than the Chinese themselves? They localized everything to fit their tastes. And a lot of the Chinese culture they got was transferred through Korea and was thus already Koreanized.
>>2807719
Because with every successive dynasty in China everything from the previous era gets destroyed and replaced by something else
>>2807728
>everything from the previous era gets destroyed and replaced by something else
That's not how shit works. All things change but there is a cultural continuity. And Japan modified Chinese culture they liked so they weren't "preserving" it all.
>>2807739
Cultural continuity is not same as preservation of ancient Chinese culture
>>2807748
>ancient Chinese culture
What does that even mean. Chinese culture is just any of their ideas, customs, and social behaviors.
>>2807764
The idea that "Chinese culture" is a homogenous and static thing that has remained exactly the same for thousands of years
>>2807728
[Citation needed]
Furthermore, Japan had 4 dynastic/imperial changes and like 72026 civil wars.
>>2807739
Japanese nationalists actually believe themselves to be the "true successors" of Chinese culture after the Qing came to power.
>>2807776
Why is /his/pol/ so ignorant about everything Chinese? If it doesn't fit their black-or-white worldview, they have aneurysms and scream CHINK.
Your average starving Tang Chinaman in Sichuan and your average starving Ming Chinaman weren't all that different.
>>2807787
They also think the ancient Chinese have absolutely no relation to the modern Chinese. Kek.
>>2807797
Yeah, they think the foreign invaders and rulers massacred our outbred the Han. So today's Chinese people are completely culturally and genetically different to ancient Chinese. It's a crackpot theory but it's parroted here all the time.
>>2807669
Japan? How?
Taiwan and some overseas Chinese communities preserved aspects of ancient Chinese culture better into the modern day. They're Chinese but they didn't experience the crazy shit on the mainland and that makes all the difference.
>>2807801
/pol/ + weebs = immense delusion
>>2807809
Well some ancient chinese traditions are sill practiced in Japan (Tea ceremony, sumo)
>>2807975
When did China ever have sumo? And the Japanese tea ceremony is very different from the original Chinese matcha preparation.
>>2807669
Maybe Kanji=Chinese characters are better presereved in Japan than in main land China. Acutually, Japan is now the only country that uses Kanji outside China. In China, Kanji has been simplified and the original form was forgotten.
>>2808195
>Maybe Kanji=Chinese characters are better presereved in Japan than in main land China.
What is shinjitai
>Acutually, Japan is now the only country that uses Kanji outside China.
What is Singapore
>In China, Kanji has been simplified and the original form was forgotten.
What is Taiwan, Hong Kong, or Macau
>>2808195
How? Japan simplified loads of characters and made up completely new ones by mixing radicals together.
>>2808233
簡体字 is far more simplified than 新字体.
Singaporean are Chinese people.
Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau are not main land China.
>>2808236
The greatest authority of Kanji study is by a Japanese scholar.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%96%B0%E8%A8%82-%E5%AD%97%E7%B5%B1-%E7%99%BD%E5%B7%9D-%E9%9D%99/dp/4582128130
>>2808297
>Singaporean are Chinese people.
Not all of them are Chinese, and it's significant that Mandarin is an official language.
>Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau are not main land China.
You never specified the "China" they were referring to was the mainland.
>The greatest authority of Kanji study is by a Japanese scholar.
Well, duh, no shit, Chinese people use hanzi, not kanji.
Traditional characters are still in use by Chinese people and saying the Japanese have better preserved them is erroneous.
>>2807669
China has got to be the least understood culture on 4chan
>>2808297
Singapore is still a separate country, dumbass. Traditional Chinese is the official writing system of three governments not under PRC control (HK, Macau, Taiwan). Japan's writing system is nowhere near as "preserved" and they don't use a lot of characters the Chinese do.
>>2808341
>>The greatest authority of Kanji study is by a Japanese scholar.
>Well, duh, no shit, Chinese people use hanzi, not kanji.
I kek'd at this.
>All these delusional faggots
Reminder that Mao wanted to destroy any Chinese traditionalism.
>>2807787
>Japanese nationalists actually believe themselves to be the "true successors" of Chinese culture after the Qing came to power.
May as well claim themselves to be the true successors since the Yuan.
>>2809028
>Reminder that Mao wanted to destroy any Chinese traditionalism.
And he failed. The fact that the Chinese still use characters rather some alphabetic system is large proof. Even his simplified system still failed to achieve his goal of breaking with the traditional writing. Most readers of Simplified Chinese can quickly transition to Traditional.
>>2809061
Under Mao's rule many places of worship from Taoist to Christianity were destroyed, practicing religion was forbidden for the longest time, any religious texts were forbidden. The communist party wanted nothing to do with tradition. The only thing that had kept tradition alive were people practicing religion in secret and people moving to the west so they wouldn't be persecuted. As much as the west would like to portray, religion isn't as common. Temples that have not been destroyed, rebuilt, and new ones are just tourist destinations, and any religious practice going on are mostly done by people who were practicing religion in secret, and of an older generation. Mao may have not outright completely destroyed it, but his attempts had a big influence on trying to change tradition.