Mfw when i go to war

>>2798480
The French were the first to use them senpai

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>uses gas and flamethrowers
>protests against shotguns because they are "inhuman"

>>2798775
This is a really good one.

>>2798480
>when you start using gas but shotguns are inhumane

>>2798775
I am literally seeing a person berate Germany for trying to draw a line on brutality.

>>2798480

Is it accurate to say that the Central Powers had a good chance of a winning WW1? Assume that the "starting point" is 1915 and everything before that happened exactly as it did historically. Is there any way that Germany could have won? Or is it like WW2 where they never had a chance and only thought they had a chance because they thought they were super-human?

>>2798799
Yeah if the United States had fucked off and not stuck its nose in other peoples business Europe would have blown itself to pieces and learned its lesson.

But nooooo. They stepped in like a ref calling the super bowl on a technicality, declared one side of petulant children the winners, and the other petulant child the loser, and did nothing to make sure they didn't do dumb things after.

It's almost like destroying civilization and wrecking functioning governments breeds chaos and discord.

>>2798799
No chance, the Schlieffen Plan was too inflexible, brought Belgium and Britain into the war, the incompetent Conrad Von Hotzendorf was in a position of power and attacking neutral Belgium had turned international opinion against the Central Powers, WW1 was decided from the beginning.

>>2798799
They didn't have enough guns, people or factories.

>>2798862
Funnily enough, it was Russia that rage-quitted.

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>>2798889
Rush Berlin Cyka!

>>2798827
We juat wanted to trade but the Germans decided to start blowing up ships with Americans. What were we supposed to do?

>>2798827

I love how people try to say that the US had no economic interest in Europe. The Germans were sinking American ships. They were interfering with American trade with the UK.

Legitimately laughed

>>2798827
Wilson was the only one who cared about peace in Europe and it was actually genuine. too bad he was such a jackass.

if the us stayed out it would have been a real possibility

>>2798799
if austria hadnt been an incompetent sack of shit

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>>2799327

The US was never really "out" of it. Long before the US actually declared war, the US was helping the Allied Powers a great deal simply by continuing to trade with Britain throughout the war. The British economy was dependent on transatlantic trade. Without that, their economy would have imploded and they probably would have suffered a communist uprising or something like that. Simply by continuing to trade with Britain, the US had a huge impact on the war. This, by the way, is exactly why Germany turned to unrestricted u-boat warfare. German economists predicted that a successful u-boat campaign would trigger economic collapse in Great Britain.

>They [Americans] will not even come, because our submarines will sink them. Thus America from a military point of view means nothing, and again nothing, and for a third time nothing.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/the-u-boat-campaign-that-almost-broke-britain

>>2798530
>French used non lethal teargas to try to capture prisoners and flush machine gun nests

>Develops gaseous poisons, "they started it"

yeah no

>>2798480
Do you need a hype man?

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>>2798794
Flamethrower > Shotgun
Fucking get perspective man. Burning alive might be the single worst way to go after being flayed alive and getting hypothermia from your truly naked body. And remember, the Germans used this argument when the US finally arrived in 1917, years after the Hague convention and Human rights had been thrown down the shitter with Gas, Bombing cities with Zeppelins, and unrestricted sub warfare.

>>2798799
Honestly, if Zimmerman hadn't been stupid enough to own up to the Zimmerman telegraph, there probably wouldn't be popular support for the War in the US. Wilson probably would have joined anyway, but even a delay of a few months has a huge detrimental effect on the Entente, particularly France. Petain managed to restore order during the mutinies in part by promising no new offensives until the tanks and the Americans showed up. How much of a morale boost does he get without the Americans?

Hell, mutinies aside, the entrance of the Americans did offset the fact Russia was descending into a civil war, and probably couldn't fight all that well even if they didn't surrender entirely. Obviously it's all unpredictable butterfly effects, but the longer it takes for the Americans to join, the greater the likelyhood of at least a negotiated peace in the West.