Was Christianity responsible for the fall of Rome?

>>2798345
Yes, we are the muslism of the past

I wonder what will kill the muslim european culture

No. It is a common misconception invented by 18th century Enlightenment Protestants that the Roman Empire was destroyed due to spirituality and loyalty to Christian teachings instead of the state, befitting their own prejudices and belief that loyalty to both the Pope and to their own nations were impossible. It is perfectly feasible to argue that in actual fact Christianity more solidly bound the people of the Roman Empire together and made them more loyal to the emperor, who was quite literally God's deputy on Earth in some ways.

Superficially it might be possible to argue that vasts amount of money being spent on private chapels and spiritual pursuits instead of being lavished on the people of their native city in the form of baths and amphitheatres in some way undermined Roman urban civilization but it isn't that straightforward.

>>2798345

No, [insert present day bogeyman] was, obviously!

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It doesn't make sense with even a cursory knowledge of history.

The Eastern Empire lasted for 1000 years after the Western Empire had broken apart but it was also Christian.

Also it probably goes without saying at this point but that picture on the bottom right is a painting of a fictional civilisation by Thomas Cole, not Rome

Probably the biggest reason to aid their decline, anyone being apologetic against it is a salty revisionist. Just read up on emperors like Julian the Apostate.

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>>2798345
No, but it would have been awesome if a large coalition of Christian churches destroyed that disgusting imperial behemoth. Fuck Rome and fuck "Evropa"

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>>2798345
The Barbarians who attacked Rome were Christian

>>2798345
>Jews cannot shut the fuck up about how much they hate Christ and Christians
>Entire tracts of their religious books dedicated to how much Jesus is burning in hell and eating shit
>There are people who seriously believe that Christianity was a 2,000-year-long plot designed to enslave Europe to Jewry

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No, it is the inevitable outcome of all culture. The specific form of the magico-religious feeling of a culture is of little to no consequence.

No, Christianity didn't cause the decline of Rome, it was a symptom of the decline of Rome

>>2798345
>Was Christianity responsible for the fall of Rome?
Most likely yes. An interesting aspect of history is that Europe, as soon as it btfo this horrible middle eastern jew on a stick myth with the age of enlightenment, became once again the absolute dominator of world politics.

>>2798715
>germanic tribes and huns where all christian
Shouldn't you be praying to a dead jew right now?

>>2798345

Yes.
Just like how Islam will be responsible for the fall of the current EU.

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

>>2798660
>Christianity had nothing to do with Rome's decline
>But I really, really wish it did
You're like Rodney Stark. Or like /pol/ when it denies the Holocaust, but still takes pride in it and wish it'd happen again.

Why is your priest fat btw?

>>2798364
Is this bait or is someone actually this ignorant?

how did this meme start, there's 0 reason to think it did.

>>2798802
Is this bait or is someone actually this ignorant?

No barbarians were
Turns out, composing your entire army of foreign mercenaries who couldn't give a fuck about Rome is a bad idea

>>2799667
>Turns out, composing your entire army of foreign mercenaries who couldn't give a fuck about Rome
Please stop this centuries old bait. Rome's army was the one mechanism of state that never faltered until the very end. The Late Roman comitatenses were no more "mercenaries" than the legions of Trajan or Augustus were.

>>2798660
t.luther

>>2799726
'sup luther

>>2799681
>never faltered until the very end
Aight I guess the 3rd century wasn't a thing

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>>2798345

No.

>>2798345
No.

Every Roman wanted to be emperor and because of this,the enslavement of people started to get out of control, the competition for political leverage started to reach past physical limits, which caused Roman citizens to turn on each other by way of creating political enemies from within, you had little favor from common folk as exploitation was reaching critical mass since everyone needed finances to push political agendas, had enemies outside of Rome that were tired of the oppression and enslavement/killing from wars, and again internally you had the combat within the empire between factions and groups in their attempt to rise to power, everyone competing for their piece of the "Roman dream" caused the internal organs of the empire to deteriorate and tear apart, which caused the external to become just as weak. Before you know it, the whole thing fell apart. Fractured territories started had to be formed as the over all territory fell apart.

Greed and lust and pride. It brought the whole thing down.

But the FASCINATING thing about all this? That is exactly what that empire was built on...little did anyone know though, where these types of motives lead to, because it takes hundreds of years for it to reach full effect.

Vanity, which means "meaningless" is considered one of the key immoralities for a reason. Pointlessness. Everything Rome attempted was all in vain, futile. It took time, but ultimately they will go down as just a another failure.

Plenty to learn from the past, but it depends on which direction you go with the knowledge of the past.

No the adoption of Christianity was in large part due to the decline, rather than the cause of it. Who needs a new salvation religion when everything is going good in life?

>>2798780
Yeah, okay but what has Hans Moleman to do with that?