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Can someone explain runes to me?

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Can someone explain runes to me?
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An invention by the Etruscans. As always Northern Europeans copied Southern European innovation and later said "we wuz writers n sheeit" despite being nothing of the sort.
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>>2797092

Actually, it's more likely to be northern italic characters adopted, with some others taken or modified from etruscan, or latin, apart from a scant amount of original characters
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>>2797092
>>2797106
Well, weren't the Etruscan runes inspired by the Greek Alphabet?
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>>2798576
Etruscans had an alphabet, which derived from the Greek one
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>>2798597
And the Greeks took their alphabet from.the Phoenicians
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>>2798629
Not originally. Greeks had an alphabet, lost it, than modified the phonocan alphabet.
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>>2798635
Learn what an alphabet is, Greeks had a poly-phonemic writing system, not an alphabet
>>2798629
I know
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https://youtu.be/oVJgq_4kF7c
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>>2798670
You mean Linear B? That was a syllabary with ideograms. As far as we know, the later Greek alphabet was the first alphabet in the world.
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>>2798739
Yes, I meant Linear B, Linear B was not an alphabet, I thought you were talking about it, since you said Greeks had an alphabet and then lost it, I thought you believed Linear B was an alphabet, since that is the script that Bronze age Greeks used and then lost.

As far as we know, the first alphabets were developed in the Levant and Egypt: Proto Sinaitic alphabet (1500 bc), the Ugaritic (1400 bc) alphabet, then Phoenician (1100 bc), Phoenicians then settled in Uboea around 850 bc and by 800-750 bc Greeks developed their own in Euboea from the Phoenician one.
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>>2798795
Uh, I'm not the guy you were replying to in your other post.
Proto-Sinaitic, Ugaritic and Phoenician are all abjads, meaning that they only have consonant letters. Vowels are implied by phonology or with indicated with diacritic-like vowel markers, just like in modern-day Arabic.
The Greek alphabet was the first alphabet in the sense of having both independent consonant and vowel letters.
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>>2798856
Uh, an alphabet doesn't have to have vowels, sorry but you guys can't just make up your own definition of things, Greek was the first alphabet with vowels, but not the first alphabet.
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>>2798876
There are at least two different definitions that I am aware of. Using the first one, you're right, using the second one, you're wrong.
>1. An alphabet is a standard set of letters (basic written symbols or graphemes) that is used to write one or more languages based upon the general principle that the letters represent phonemes (basic significant sounds) of the spoken language.
>2. Under a terminological distinction promoted by Peter T. Daniels, an "alphabet" is a script that represents both vowels and consonants as letters equally. In this narrow sense of the word the first "true" alphabet was the Greek alphabet, which was developed on the basis of the earlier Phoenician alphabet.
So just for the record: Phoenician was the first known alphabet in the broadest sense, while Greek was the first alphabet featuring independent vowel letters.
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>>2798893
Ok, either way, what he said, that the Greeks had an alphabet and then lost it is wrong, that never happened, and I have no idea what he was referring too since he said himself he wasn't wrongly thinking of Linear B
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>>2798893

>Under a terminological distinction promoted by Peter T. Daniels, an "alphabet" is a script that represents both vowels and consonants as letters equally. In this narrow sense of the word the first "true" alphabet was the Greek alphabet, which was developed on the basis of the earlier Phoenician alphabet.

I wouldn't say Peter Daniels purposefully trying to make a distinction should suffice as a definition. If anything the use of vowels should be a sub-type of alphabet, rather than removing the title of alphabet from Phoenician.
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>>2799523
Ok
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old germanic way of writing, used mostly on stones and wood which is why there are just really straight lines. some of them look a lot like the etruscan letters, so it probably got a lot of influence from it, which in turn got it from the greeks, which in turn got it from the phoenicans, which in turn got it from the egyptians.
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>>2798635
Linear B was derived from Linear A which was derived from Egyptian Hieroglyphs, like the Phoenician abjad

It all boils down to KANGS
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>>2800591
>Linear A which was derived from Egyptian Hieroglyphs

No evidence for this at all. More likely Linear A was related to the Vinca syllabary.
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>>2800650
this. kangz btfo
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