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A cultural streak I noticed with most jews I've encountered is that they're the most compassionate and self aware people I've encountered.
Compared to other people I've met, especially northern Europeans, who seem to take life for granted, act cold, and seem to be the type who will put blame on others in order to make themselves feel better.
Why is the cultural streak like this, /his/?
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>>2789586
In fact, in general, southern Europeans/mena seem to be more vibrant and more interested in life than northern Europeans
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>>2789586
>Jews are compassionate
>not trying to manipulate you for schekels or sell you a subversive radical ideology
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>>2789586
>jews I've encountered is that they're the most compassionate and self aware people I've encountered.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>2789628
>Fake quote
http://www.come-and-hear.com/babamezia/babamezia_114.html
>Another fake quote
http://www.come-and-hear.com/yebamoth/yebamoth_98.html
>This time I'll just make up an entire book to put my fake quote in.
http://www.come-and-hear.com/tcontents.html
Why are stormfags so retarded and dishonest?
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>>2789643
If they weren't retarded, they wouldn't be stormfags.
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>>2789586
Compassion tends to depend on whether or not you're in a large city.
Big city people have like zero compassion.
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>>2789650
And for dishonesty?
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>>2789586
There were a dozen or so jews in my high school class, and all of them but one were the biggest, most stuck-up, self-absorbed, and snobby people I've ever met.
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>>2789664
And the only jew that wasn't like that was the one who was only half-jewish
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>>2789643
That's literally what it says you dumb motherfucker.
>The graves of Gentiles do not defile, for it is written, And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men;5 only ye are designated 'men'.6
Only ye are men, meaning: non Jews are not men.
>All Merciful declared their [the gentiles'] children to be legally fatherless,7 for [so indeed it is also] written, Whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.8
Asses and horses = animals. And it actually says their penises are like that of donkeys, and emissions like that of horses, so I'll take that as a compliment.
As to the third quote, you didn't link it properly to the relevant document.
Who is dishonest now?
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Jews just lie their teeth out. Its second nature to them. They don't even notice that they're doing it because they never tell the truth to compare with and know the difference.
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>>2789695
>That's literally what it says you dumb motherfucker.
No it isn't you retard.
>Only ye are men, meaning: non Jews are not men.
No, meaning Jews are bound by purity laws, which is what the immediately preceding sentence is about, and you can't go around touching non-Jewish corpses.
>Asses and horses = animals. And it actually says their penises are like that of donkeys, and emissions like that of horses, so I'll take that as a compliment.
>Literally ignoring the preceding sentences again about how A) It's only talking about Egyptians, B) it's saying how Egyptinas are so sexually immoral that you can't tell who the father is becuase everyone fucks everyone else
>As to the third quote, you didn't link it properly to the relevant document.
I linked to a table of contents. Do you see "Midrash Talpioth" or any other anglicization there?
>Who is dishonest now?
You.
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>>2789654
there's no difference in compasion, just a difference in community. if you live in a city the group of people that you know on even a basic level is going to be much smaller than if you're in small town. drop anyone into New York and they're going to be more worried about someone stealing their wallet than helping out some meth head bum on the street
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>>2789643
>Fake quote
>שנאמר (יחזקאל לד, לא) ואתן צאני צאן מרעיתי אדם אתם אתם קרויין אדם ואין עובדי כוכבים קרויין אדם
Translation: As it is said “And you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are man” (Ezekiel 34:31), which teaches that you, i.e., the Jewish people, are called “man,” but gentiles are not called “man.”
>ואין עובדי כוכבים קרויין אדם
>gentiles are not called “man.”
http://www.sefaria.org/Bava_Metzia.114b?lang=bi
Now who is being dishonest?
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>>2789618
What did the jews mean by this?
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>>2789618
>>2789774
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>>2789718
>It's about purity laws
>only ye are men
You don't even notice how full of shit you sounds so you?
>it's saying how Egyptinas are so sexually immoral that you can't tell who the father is becuase everyone fucks everyone else
It actually says the opposite of that you dumb schlomo. Holy shit I thought you were supposed to be smart! Step up your swindling game or else how will you be able to inherit your dad's business?
>With reference to the Rabbinical statement that [legally] an Egyptian has no father,2 it must not be imagined that this is due to [the Egyptians'] excessive indulgence in carnal gratification, owing to which it is not known [who the father was], but that if this were known3 it is to be taken into consideration;4 but [the fact is] that even if this is known it is not taken into consideration.
>it must NOT be imagined that this is due to [the Egyptians'] excessive indulgence in carnal gratification
Their "fatherless" because they aren't Jews.
>Midrash Talpioth
No matches found.
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You sound do you*
Fucking phone.
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>>2789618
I dunno.
When I was growing up a few jews really helped my family when we struggled.
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>>2789799
>When I was growing up a few jews really helped my family when we struggled.
For a very reasonable interest rate of 10%/year, of courshe!
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>>2789730
Hence less compassion in the big city.....
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Jews don't have unified behavior as the Chinese do.
some reform Jews in the west mimic the behavior of the protestant Anglos. what you see is Anglo compassion being a part of the general culture.
if you rub elbows with other Jewish groups (eastern European Jews, Syrian Jews, Uzbeki Jews, North African Jews, Israelis) there will be no evidence of compassion, but rather hostility and coldness even when they are with other Jews.
the only naturally compassionate Jewish group are Ethiopian Jews.
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Obvious bait thread
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>>2789586
Jesus was a liar and scammer though. Are you sure that's compassion or not just manipulation of emotions for a payout.
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>>2791418
>Sephardim
>not compassionate
t. Ashkenazi prick
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>>2791443
name 1
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>>2789654
>large city
>zero compassion
I read an article several years ago that interpreted the story of Cain and Abel as God favoring pastoral society (Abel) over the agricultural one (Cain) arguing that agricultural based societies grow fast introduce a lot of problems, ie. lack of compassion among others. Perhaps that is why.
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>>2791443
if you define compassionate as rude, aggressive, hateful, then yeah, you right
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>>2791467
>>2791443
the deliberate and unadorned frankness of Israelis, Sefardis, Mizrahis, Ashkenazis," notes Zionist historian Melvin Urofsky, "so highly prized by Israelis, scornful of Westernized and 'assimilated' manners, struck [Jewish] Americans [who sought to live in Israel], accustomed to some courtesies in life, as downright rude. (As late as 1965, a study of bureaucratic behavior in one large Israeli enterprise disclosed that 60 per cent of officials in contact with the public did not believe in greeting a visitor, nor would they reply to his greeting; an even higher percentage would not offer him a chair, simply letting him stand during the interview
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>>2791443
you proved his point
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>>2789643
Because they're actually self-loathing jews.
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>>2791473
his research into reasons why so many Israelis emigrate from Israel to other lands. Among the motivations for leaving, he noted that "there is indeed an edginess [in Israeli society]; tempers flare, and verbal violence is rampant ... A large proportion of those [Israelis] interviewed for my study ... have been abroad [overseas] or were born or raised abroad, and in almost all cases reference is made to the fact that 'people are nice in chutz la'aretz.' Strangers wish you a good day as they make change or pass you in the street, whereas at home [Israel] you can consider yourself fortunate to receive minimally civil treatment."
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One of my good friends is Jewish. This being said, Jews act like Jews. My Grandpa was almost scammed by a Jew, my father was almost scammed by a Jew, Jews have consistent acted Jewy around us. Out of all the adjectives i'd use to describe Jews, "compassionate" isn't one of them.
As for Northern Europeans, You're right in that Nordics and anglos have an odd sort of stoicism and reserve which is off putting.
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>>2792900
You'd be surprised how warm Finngols can be if you can get to know them slightly better. Same goes for Norwegians too, who are also more upbeat generally. Swedes are just stupid, condescending, pompous faggots. However it was kind of off-putting to land in Finland and see only stoic, silent, depressive people who hate coming within 1 metre from another human being.
t. Someone who has worked in all three countries for extensive periods of tume.
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compassion doesn't exist in modern society, since society is now the anti-thesis of compassion
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>>2789586
Sounds like you mistake theatrics for compassion.
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>>2792900
Every German i've met is a dick. Therefor all Germans are douchebags. This is your logic.
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You guys really don't understand Northern Europeans though.
Being isolated + being cold and dark for a large part of the year doesn't lend itself to a flamboyant people.
It's not that Norwegians or Swedes, or Finns aren't compassionate or friendly, they just have an old-school surface level conservatism that mostly applies to strangers.
It doesn't apply to friends and family though.
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>>2793222
>taking the condom off for friends and senpai
how nice of them
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My Dentist is Jewish.
A truly fucking great guy.
Would give you the shirt off his back.
He told me that because he's a doctor and helps people, the Illuminati Jews don't let him into the secret circle of alien lizard Hebrews that rule the world.
He's cool with it because they're all evil.
He just wants people to have healthy teeth and shit.
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>>2791434
>payout
what payout? he was a homeless preacher who was executed as a criminal. . .
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The question comes down to:
Is the Jewish person in question a mensch or an unmensch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensch
>Mensch (Yiddish: מענטש mentsh, cognate with the German word Mensch meaning a "human being") means "a person of integrity and honor".[1] The opposite of a "mensch" is an "unmensch", meaning an utterly unlikeable or unfriendly person.
>According to Leo Rosten, the Yiddish maven and author of The Joys of Yiddish, a "mensch" is "someone to admire and emulate, someone of noble character. The key to being 'a real mensch' is nothing less than character, rectitude, dignity, a sense of what is right, responsible, decorous."[2] The term is used as a high compliment, implying the rarity and value of that individual's qualities.
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theres a gigantic difference in cultural norms between orthodox jews and cultural jews you can really lob them into the same group.
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>>2793261
>to an almost masochistic degree
The political parties of Sweden don't represent the entirety of Northern Europe thank you very much.
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Let me break it down for you goys.
Western Ashkenazim (French, English, German Jews)
>Compassionate
>Leftists, Secular
>More likely to be an Anti-Zionist
Eastern Ashkenazim (Russian, Ukrainian, Polish Jews)
>Either Socialist or very right-wing
>Tough
>Indifferent
Sephardic
>Very religious, "Gentiles are here to serve the Jews" type shit
>Right-wing
>Profited a lot off of colonization and slavery
Mizrahim
>Poor, very religious, "Arabs should be cleaning our shoes" type shit
>Hates arabs a lot even though most people treat them like Arabs
>Very right-wing, reason the Likud party wins every time and unapologetic about wanting Judea and Samaria
Beta Israel
>Very poor, religious and faces a lot of discrimination
>Leftists, tend to be Compassionate
>LARPs as African-Americans
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>>2793342
Western Ashkenazim (French, English, German Jews)
>Compassionate
>Leftists, Secular
>More likely to be an Anti-Zionist
Eastern Ashkenazim (Russian, Ukrainian, Polish Jews)
>Either Socialist or very right-wing
>Tough
>Indifferent
Sephardic
>Very religious, "Gentiles are here to serve the Jews" type shit
>Right-wing
>Profited a lot off of colonization and slavery
Mizrahim
>Poor, very religious, "Arabs should be cleaning our shoes" type shit
>Hates arabs a lot even though most people treat them like Arabs
>Very right-wing, reason the Likud party wins every time and unapologetic about wanting Judea and Samaria
Beta Israel
>Very poor, religious and faces a lot of discrimination
>Leftists, tend to be Compassionate
>LARPs as African-Americans
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>>2793342
Are you Ashkenazi or Beta Israel? You're right about some things, but it's clear you're favourable to those two groups by your very biased impression of the Jewish ethnic divisions.
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>>2793390
Nope. I'm not even Jewish just pointing out what i've noticed
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>>2793237
Fucking lizard Jews are the worse I swear to God...
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>>2789586
In reality Germanic and Nordcuck are people are very polite and introverted. But when you get to meet them (or have a few drinks) they can real sweethearts. So these negative traits you see are only just introversion. Introversion is a personality type, it's neither absolutely good nor bad.
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>>2793466
Now with regard to compassion, people ITT are only citing anecdotal evidence. "I know a guy..." that doesn't count for anything. What really matters is population, and in this article respect, it's abundantly clear that Nordic countries are more compassionate than Israel, to their detriment, and Arabs and Jews take advantage of Nordic and general European compassion to parasite their societies.
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>>2789586
>seem to be the type who will put blame on others in order to make themselves feel better
Well it might be because in Judaism they believe there is no coincidences. They think literally everything happens for a reason. That's why you had the Chief Sephardi Rabbi in Israel say that the "6 million Jews who reincarnations of sinners who had to atone for there transgressions." That's a very Jewish belief, that everything that happens is a wrath of God. That leads to Jews sort of owning up to what they did, because they truly believe if it happened it's because God meant it to happen and you probably did something wrong.
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>>2793506
>are more compassionate than Israel
Israel is 60% Mizrahi, Only the western european Ashkenazi are overtly compassionate and they are probably 10-15% of Israel considering most of the Ashkenazi there are Russian Jews.
see >>2793352
>Poor, very religious, "Arabs should be cleaning our shoes" type shit
>Hates arabs a lot even though most people treat them like Arabs
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>>2789586
Really because my interaction with jews has been that they are faggy little pieces of shit who use every ounce of whatever authority they have to fuck over other people and steal shit.
Not a mystery why they have been kicked out of every country they ever set foot in and when they were given their own dirtpile they set to fucking their neighbors and genociding the natives.
jews, not even once.
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>>2789628
>some things a few jews said justifies my hatred of their entire race!!!!
Degenerates exist in every ethnic group. The Jew-Klux-Klan doesn't represent millions of people around the world
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>>2795163
Except that's from the Talmud, the book that all believing Jews must adhere to, you dumb motherfucker.
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>>2794809
>and then all the arabs will be our slaves
>is indistinguishable from an Arab
Lmao!
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>>2789586
>jews
>most compassionate
>http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-28333901/four-boys-killed-on-beach-in-gaza
Sure...
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>>2795337
>the Talmud, the book that all believing Jews must adhere to
you don't really think this, do you? no Jew considers the Talmud a holy book, literally not one. it's made up of 500 authors, all saying contradictory shit. most of it is "if a tree falls and no one is around, did it happen" type things. not to mention that most Jews haven't read it, and the ones that did spent years reading it because it's extremely long.
It's actually funny, Islam is the only religion that ever tried to say the Talmud is the word of God. one of the most quotes Quran verses, the whole "if you save a man it's like you saved the world and if you kill a man it's like you killed the world" is straight out of the Talmud. if you read it in it's context, it says "The Children of Israel have the Word of Allah," basically saying that parts of the Talmud are divine, even though Jews don't think that
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middle easterners and southern Europeans have a soul
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>>2795485
Damn, /pol/ lied to me. I could have sworn the Talmud was considered the word of God to jews or something.
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>>2793201
>Every German i've met is a dick. Therefor all Germans are douchebags. This is your logic.
That's OP's logic. I'm pointing out that Jews I've known both anecdotally as well as general consensus on Jews doesn't make them a people known for their compassion. This doesn't mean Jews are never compassionate as they have been to very kind to me and others.
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Every Israeli I've ever met has been a massive cock.
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>>2795485
>>2795748
>When confronted with thought-provoking or controversial quotes from the Talmud, some people respond as follows:
"Jews don't pay attention to the Talmud. It's only for the ultra-Orthodox. It has no relevance to the lives of most Jews, and can hold no legitimate interest for Gentiles."
According to the experts, however, the Talmud is more central to Jewish life and to Israel than the Bible is to most Americans.
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>>2795855
>ACCORDING TO EXPERTS, HOWEVER
>Secular Jews Turn To Talmud
The reputation of the Talmud among liberal and secular Jews, especially in the United States, has undergone a big change in the direction of a highly favorable attitude in the past quarter-century …
The Talmud has become a coffee-table book for suburban Jewish America! And perhaps a few hundred of such bourgeois purchasers may have perused a few of its difficult talismanic pages. Meanwhile, the proliferation of Judaic studies programs on American campuses disseminated well-informed overviews of the Talmud among thousands of American Jews of the younger generation.
— Norman F. Cantor (1)
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>>2795867
>The colleges for the study of the Talmud are increasing almost in every place where Israel dwells, especially in this country where millions are gathered for the funds of the two great colleges, the Hebrew Union College of Cincinnati and the Jewish Theological Seminary of America in New York, in which the chief study is the Talmud and its post-talmudical literature.
— Rabbi Michael Rodkinson (2)
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>>2795872
>The growing movement towards Talmudism is reflected by the publication of new English translations of the Talmud. Read news of the Schottenstein English translation.
These new volumes have been prepared by a team of accomplished scholars who distill the essence of the classic sources and commentators. Acclaimed by a broad spectrum of scholars and laymen, this series fills the need of those who wish to study the Talmud in the classic manner — without over simplification, extraneous material, or unnecessary turgidity.
— Mesorah Publications, Ltd (6)
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>>2795876
>Reform Jews Draw Closer To Talmud
In describing the difference between Reformed and Orthodox Jews, Reform Rabbi Amy Scheinerman states:
For Orthodox Jews, the Hebrew Scriptures are divinely authored and therefore every commandment contained therein must be obeyed. The Mishnah and Talmud are considered to have virtually the same status and are called Oral Torah.
— Rabbi Amy Scheinerman (3)
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>>2795878
>Reform Judaism's Conservative Shift
Leaders of Most Liberal Branch To Toughen Conversion Rules
Leaders of Reform Judaism will adopt stricter guidelines for religious conversion today, embracing more traditional rites that American Judaism's mot progressive and popular branch has historically rejected.
Reform Jewish rabbis said they expect to adopt standards at their annual meeting in Monterey, Calif., that suggest converts commit to keeping a Jewish home, an effort that includes following Jewish dietary laws. Women will be asked to immerse themselves in a ritual bath — known as a mikveh — and men will be asked to undergo circumcisions.
The change is, in one respect, an extraordinary reversal for a movement that was founded in 1885 to allow Jews to blend into American life by explicitly rejecting many distinctly Jewish practices as 'entirely foreign' …
The new conversion guidelines are part of a shift in direction unveiled two years ago, when Reform rabbis revised their 'Statement of Principles' to place greater emphasis on mitzvot, the religious laws that govern Jews' daily lives.
— The Washington Post (4)
Orthodox Jews Have Triumphed
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>>2795892
>In his recent book, Jew vs. Jew — The Struggle For The Soul Of American Jewry, Columbia University Journalism Professor Samuel G. Freedman wrote about the power struggle between Orthodox and liberal Jews between 1960 to 1999. Freedman put it this way:
In the struggle for the soul of American Jewry, the Orthodox model has triumphed.
— Samuel G. Freedman (5)
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>>2795892
>In Orthodox Judaism, therefore, both the Written Law (Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament) and the Oral Law (codified in the Mishna and interpreted in the Talmud) are immutably fixed and remain the sole norm of religious observance.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Orthodox-Judaism
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>>2795909
>Orthodox Judaism is the Jewish tradition that adheres to a relatively strict interpretation and application of the laws and ethics promulgated in the Talmud and later rabbinical tradition.
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>>2795918
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Orthodox_Judaism
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>>2795924
>Orthodox Judaism is the approach to religious Judaism which subscribes to a tradition of mass revelation and adheres to the interpretation and application of the laws and ethics of the Torah as legislated in the Talmudic texts
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Judaism
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>>2795928
>The Talmud is the basis for all codes of Jewish law, and is widely quoted in rabbinic literature.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
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>>2795337
Religion isn't genetic, fucker. It's taught as part of a culture. As is compassion or the lack of it. Nobody can really say any ethnic group is inherently anything, then, without seeing what they'd do were they raised in a different culture.
>Racists BTFO forever
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>>2795938
>Beth Din of America
The Beth Din of America has been recognized as one of the nation's pre-eminent rabbinic courts for nearly four decades. It serves the Jewish community in the United States as a forum for obtaining Jewish divorces, confirming personal status, and adjudicating commercial disputes stemming from divorce, business and community issues.
Firmly anchored in the principles of halakha (Jewish law), the Beth Din has earned a reputation for conducting its affairs with competence, integrity and fairness.
— The Beth Din of America (8)
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>Jews Must Use Jewish Courts
The London Beth Din affirms that Jews must use Jewish Courts:
In Jewish Law, Jewish parties are forbidden to take their civil disputes to a secular court and are required to have those disputes adjudicated by a Beth Din. The LBD [London Beth Din] sits as an arbitral tribunal in respect of civil disputes and the parties to any such dispute are required to sign an Arbitration Agreement prior to a Hearing taking place. The effect of this is that the award given by the Beth Din has the full force of an Arbitration Award and may be enforced (with prior permission of the Beth Din) by the civil courts.
— JewishPeople.Net (14)
According to the Alliance for Authentic Judaism, Jews may not sue fellow Jews in Gentile courts, or even call the police on another Jew. The Alliance cites a number of authoritative sources, including the Shulchan Aruch, the compilation of Jewish law written by sixteenth century rabbinic scholar Joseph Caro. See "A Stern Warning." (
No Jew or Jewess, wherever he may be, is allowed to go to a non-Jewish court, or to their offices or officers, without exception. sh law …
It is not permissible under any circumstances, to summon a fellow Jew to a non-Jewish court prior to summoning him to a Jewish Beis Din …
No Jew, even if he is a rabbi or leader, is allowed to permit other Jews to go to non-Jewish court before summoning the other party to Beis Din …
A Jew or Jewess who says that they will take a fellow Jew to the non-Jewish courts, and they were warned of their sin and didn't listen, mitzva laha'rog otam, and whoever acts first is worthy, as is the case of a rodeif (one who chasing a person to kill him). (Shulchan Aruch, Choshen Mishpat ibid.) …
A Jewish man or woman who calls the police on the other, is included in the classification of moser …
— Alliance for Authentic Judaism (10) (emphasis added)
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>>2795855
It's a simple fact though. Most Jews are atheists, over half of American Jews atleast. The Talmud has never been claimed to be the word of God, only conspiracyfags like you pretend it is.
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>>2795962
Informers May Be Murdered
A moser is a Jew who brings the unlawful activities of another Jew to the attention of Gentile authorities. According to the Talmud, such "informers" can be thrown into a pit and not brought out, i.e., murdered. (11)
Rabbis Jonathan Rosenblatt and Gidon Rothstein of the Riverdale Jewish Center in New York explain the Jewish law pertaining to mosers (pl. mosrim):
Mosrim, to digress for a moment, were people who betrayed Jews to governments that would take their money and/or lives for no good reason. In such circumstances — a corrupt government that judged Jews differently from others and capriciously — such informants were seen as a grave danger to the community, and could be killed if necessary. Even when the rabbinic authorities in a town decided not to kill a moser, or any other kind of evildoer, — u-viarta was seen as providing warrant to expel such a person from the community. This example, while not directly applicable to the US or Israel, nonetheless shows that u-viarta as a halakhic concept is still seen as being in full force.
— Rabbis Rosenblatt and Rothstein (12) (emphasis added)
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>>2795970
>Non-Jews under Beth Din Jurisdiction
According to the Los Angeles Business Journal, another rabbinical court — the Rabbinical Council of California, which, despite Israel's designation, seems to operate in the same jurisdiction as the Rabbinical Court of California — is being used by Jews and non-Jews alike.
But the Beit Din isn't just for Orthodox Jews. Driven largely by the increased appeal of arbitration, it has become a popular option for both non-Orthodox Jews and non-Jews attracted to its practical benefits.
"It's a huge time difference and much more economical," Isaacs said. "But perhaps the most unique feature is that most of the time, litigants come out feeling they were dealt with fairly." …
In secular court, hearsay or evidence admitted out of court is not admitted into testimonies, but under Jewish law, oral transactions or agreements carry as much weight in court as do those that are written, he said.
Further, Jewish law does not recognize the statute of limitations, and adjudications are kept private.
— Los Angeles Business Journal (26)
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>>2789789
>when the rabbi said gentiles are not called human, his views clearly represent 100% of the joos
GeneralIization is a lazy tactic
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>>2795975
>Attitude to Gentiles
We wonder if the Rabbinical Council of California tells its non-Jewish clients that under Jewish law, Jews are favored over Gentiles.
MISHNAH. … WHERE AN OX BELONGING TO AN ISRAELITE HAS GORED AN OX BELONGING TO A CANAANITE, THERE IS NO LIABILITY, (6) WHEREAS WHERE AN OX BELONGING TO A CANAANITE GORES AN OX BELONGING TO AN ISRAELITE, WHETHER WHILE TAM OR MU'AD, THE COMPENSATION IS TO BE MADE IN FULL.
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Baba Kamma 37b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 211
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>>2795979
>Citing the above Mishnah (Baba Kamma, Chapter IV, Mishnah 3), the Jewish Encyclopedia states:
The Mishnah, bearing such facts in mind, therefore declares that if a Gentile sue an Israelite, the verdict is for the defendant; if the Israelite is the plaintiff, he obtains full damages (B.K. iv. 3).
— Jewish Encyclopedia (25)
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>>2789586
Jews are just as batshit crazy as muslims, they just own the entire media so they can control the narrative
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>>2795982
>The following passage from the Gemara is often cited as an example of unequal treatment accorded Jew and Gentile by Jewish judges in civil court cases, and more generally, as an example of anti-Gentile doctrines among Jews.
GEMARA. … To [escape] murderers or robbers or customs-collectors one may confirm by a vow a statement that [e.g.] the grain is terumah or belongs to the Royal Court, though it was not terumah and though it did not belong to the Royal Court. But [why should] to customs-collectors [not] apply the statement made by Samuel that the law of the State has the force of law? R. Hanina b. Kahana said that a customs-collector who is bound by no limit [is surely not acting lawfully]. At the school of R. Jannai it was stated that we were dealing here with a customs-collector who acted on his own authority. But R. Ashi said: We suppose the customs-collector here to be a heathen publican as it was taught: 'Where a suit arises between an Israelite and a heathen, if you can justify the former according to the laws of Israel, justify him and say: 'This is our law'; so also if you can justify him by the laws of the heathens justify him and say [to the other party:] 'This is your law'; but if this can not be done, we use subterfuges to circumvent him. This is the view of R. Ishmael, but R. Akiba said that we should not attempt to circumvent him on account of the sanctification of the Name. Now according to R. Akiba the whole reason [appears to be,] because of the sanctification of the Name, but were there no infringement of the sanctification of the Name, we could circumvent him!
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Baba Kamma 113a
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 664
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>>2795909
You're missing the point. The Talmud is popular in South Korea and other Asian countries. Most of it isn't even religious shit, it's just thought provoking questions and jewish folklore that is not masquerading itself as the truth. If you think the Talmud is just "goyim are inferior Jews should rule over them" you're an idiot.
It's nothing like the Torah, it's not making itself out to be divine. It's the work of hundreds of different Rabbis, find me one time in the bible it claims to be speaking with YHWH.
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>>2795993
>Gentile Property Belongs to Jews
The Jewish Encyclopedia brings up another important issue: LORD God transferred the property rights of Gentiles to Jews.
The barbarian Gentiles who could not be prevailed upon to observe law and order were not to be benefited by the Jewish civil laws, framed to regulate a stable and orderly society, and based on reciprocity. The passage in Moses’ farewell address: “The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from Mount Paran” (Deut. xxxiii. 2), indicates that the Almighty offered the Torah to the Gentile nations also, but, since they refused to accept it, He withdrew His “shining” legal protection from them, and transferred their property rights to Israel, who observed His Law. A passage of Habakkuk is quoted as confirming this claim: “God came from Teman, and the Holy One from Mount Paran … He stood, and measured the earth; he beheld, and drove asunder the nations” (Hab. iii. 3-6); the Talmud adds that He had observed how the Gentile nations steadfastly refused to obey the seven moral Noachian precepts, and hence had decided to outlaw them (B. K. 38a).
— Jewish Encyclopedia (25) (emphasis added)
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>>2795982
Quit spamming. You stormfags ruin every single thread.
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>>2795998
>the truth ruins everything
Anyway, I'm done here you dumb mutherfuckers can continue to debate opinions and anecdotes.
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>>2795485
>you don't really think this, do you? no Jew considers the Talmud a holy book, literally not one. it's made up of 500 authors, all saying contradictory shit. most of it is "if a tree falls and no one is around, did it happen" type things
Thank you for this. I'm Jewish and I don't have a single family member that's read it. I've only heard about some of the stories in it and it is used as a source for history at some points.
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>>2796004
>anecdotes
You're not debating. You're spamming quotes that are quite literally anecdotes. Not to mention that some of your quotes were from non-existent authors that don't exist in the Talmud. If the Talmud was filled with "AYO FUCK GOYIM" then why would it be a best seller in so many Asian countries? Because it simply isn't full of religious shit and you have to cherry pick to say it is. It's over 2 million words and most of it is boring bullshit.
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all very good points, my fine le redpilled gentlemen
But the question must be asked...
Is this accurate?
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>>2793237
>that'll be $300 for a half hour of work, plus tip
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>>2796170
>Talk about the glories of capitalism
>Gets mad when someone demands services for their work
What do "conservatives" mean by this?
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>>2796018
>quite literally anecdotes
Are you fucking kidding me you dumb son of a bitch. STFU you failed abortion, you literal diarrhea. You make a Zika baby look like a genius.
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>>2796252
This is embarrassing
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>>2796026
I'd say Europeans grievances with Jews is more legitimate than Black grievances against Whites. For instances Whites are so diverse as a group to say some peasant from Moldova who's been a farmer for 50 generations is somehow complicate in supposed crimes against Blacks by British Protestants is laughable. Meanwhile Jews act pretty cohesively as a group and seem to support leftism or neoconservative in any country they live in besides Israel.
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>>2796316
>whites invade Africa
>Enslave and pillage
>Kill literally 20 million in the Congo
>Occupy your lands for a century
>Ancestors of Slave are relegated to second class citizens in ghettos
>YOU'RE OVERREACTING WE DINDUNUFFIN LOOK AT THIS HOSPITAL WE MADE
>Jews live in Europe
>Forced into professions like banking because of discriminatory law
>Support political movements that want to end all the legal discrimination directed against them for religious reasons
>WOW THESE GUYS ARE EVIL
lmao
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>>2796316
>I'd say Europeans grievances with Jews is more legitimate than Black grievances against Whites
This is maybe one of the dumbest things i've ever read in my life. You realize most of the Jews in medieval times were impoverished scribes and tailors, right? Only in places like Germany and where they had "Court Jews" were Rothschild type families coming out of. So no, you're whole "monolithic group" bullshit is wrong.
The reason no one takes you seriously is because of how absurd the history of Jews is in Europe. Everything i've read about Jewish persecution in Medieval times has been retarded. Catholics screaming "MUHH HOST DESECRATION" because they are accusing Jews of stabbing the holy bread in order to "torture Jesus" so they run into Jewish villages and slaughter hundreds of families. Or maybe when they said "MUHH PLAGUE" and literally blamed Jews for the fucking plague. Then they decided to avenge it by running into Jewish villages and burning every single Jew at the stake, whether women or children.
How stupid do you have to be?
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>>2796324
Fuck off. European were spreading democracy. Quit acting like Jews were innocent. They've deserved everything they've had coming to them and more. Look at how many times they've been expelled, are you implying it's all a coincidence?
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>>2796380
>European were spreading democracy.
Slow down with the shitposting.
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>>2796324
>Forced into professions like banking because of discriminatory law
Bullshit. Jews had plenty of opportunities to go into professions such as farming.
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>>2796324
>whites invade Africa
Did Polish invade Africa?
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>>2796324
This. If Russians had given Jews equal rights, they might have a point when talking about how Jews were apart of revolutionary movements. Every single pogrom led to more revolutionary Jews.
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>>2796324
>Bantu invade Africa
>Enslave and pillage
I guess all bantu should burn?
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>>2796398
This. They just couldn't hold aristocratic titles or join guilds, but they could still be farmers.
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>>2796428
Why are you guys so edgy?
You literally cry when it comes to "Jewish crimes against humanity" but have no sympathy for pregnant Jewish women having their stomachs ripped open with knives and babies being ripped to shreds by Russian peasants.
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>>2796398
>Bullshit
Not bullshit. It varied place to place. The vast majority of Jews weren't bankers, to think they were you have to be actually autistic. The only reason all the bankers were Jewish is because Christians were banned from it. Who else were gonna be them? Not to mention "The Court Jew." You cry about the Rothschild but not the Europeans who gave him a specific position and power.
Most Jews were tailors and did normal jobs, it's in most Jews names. Their surnames usually indicate their jobs, and most definitely weren't bankers. This whole "they wouldn't assimilate" meme is getting old.
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>>2796427
>they could still be farmers.
And they were. Trotsky came from Russian farmers. 100,000 Jews died in the Holodomor and most were farmers.
I'd love to see your source for how most Jews were moneylenders
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>>2796436
I'm not being edgy at all. It would be beneficial to everyone besides the Jews themselves.
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>>2796450
If you admit that yourself then stop crying about how they were "forced" to be moneylenders. Nobody forced them to do it.
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>>2796443
>his whole "they wouldn't assimilate" meme is getting old.
Except they really wouldn't assimilate. Their religion forced them to live in close proximity to a rabbi. That's why the first Jewish ghetto's sprung up Rome and how the majority of Jews lived throughout history.
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>>2796443
>The only reason all the bankers were Jewish is because Christians were banned from it.
Christians weren't banned from banking. They were banned from usury. Even at that, by the 1500s it was no longer the case.
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>>2796494
That wasn't me who said that. But they did ban Jews from common occupations while simultaneously banning Christians from moneylending. The question is what did they expect?
>>2796549
I know, but a lot of types of people who did usury historically would do banking. Jews tend to do one occupation, like Goldstein would have been a goldsmith and vice versa. So if a Jewish family did usury for 20 generations, they would probably have been a banker. Most Jews didn't though, so pointing out the families who resulted from being selected as a "Court Jew" proves nothing.
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>>2796538
They didn't let them assimilate. You simply can't pretend like Jews were accepted into European society and they just refused to
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>>2796538
I always find it funny how stormfags pretend this is true. Jews in Azerbaijan, Georgia, India, Greece and Sicily never had problems. Wanna know why? They weren't treated like second class citizens. They had the same rights as everyone else. There's a reason you never hear bad things about the Romaniate Jews. It's simply because they were treated with respect, and therefore never acted out.
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>>2796588
>have weird religion which forbids you from common actions with every other member of the community
>b-b-but dey wasnt loud to assimilate
Jews THEMSELVES chose not to assimilate.
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What the fuck kind of Jews have you been meeting? Even the Jews I'm friendly with all have the conniving arrogance. Like a sense that they are better than you. They also can't be trusted to keep deals. It's not enough to bar me from being friends with them but it certainly is enough for me to see it as a distinct cultural trait.
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>>2796596
Then why did the Jews who were given equal rights never have issues? Why can't you explain that?
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>>2796591
>in Greece
>never had problems
Is this bait? Or are you talking exclusively about modern Greece? Greeks and Jews have been mortal enemies since forever, until the high middle ages at least. The entire fucking Judean war in 1st century started because some Jews got assblasted that Greeks were sacrificing something and chimped out.
>>2796609
Enjoy your ban for false reporting, faggot.
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>>2796615
It's not false reporting to report you for saying "I wish they raped and killed every single Jew" that's simply /pol/posting and should be left on /b/
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>>2796622
>raped
Didn't say anything about raping you trash. Keep your degenerate sexual fantasies to yourself.
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>>2796612
It's not a matter of equal rights. Southern Italians, Greeks, Armenians and Georgians are not very different from Jews in a cultural sense.
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>>2796624
You said you wished they finished them off, they didn't just kill them.
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>>2796615
>Or are you talking exclusively about modern Greece?
Why would I be talking about Ancient Greece?
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it's done. /his/ has been colonized. you fucking win /pol/
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>>2796635
Considering modern Greece only exists for 200 something years it's not a decent enough sample size. Plus I don't really know that much about Jews in modern Greek history, so there still could be something.
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>>2796636
>WHITEY SHOULDA BEEN KILLED TO STOP SLAVERY YO
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>>2796591
I'd say this. Southeastern Europe and the Italian peninsula have a much better relationship with Jews because we are better people who don't chimp out constantly. I have no sympathy for either side and can get along with both.
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>>2796645
This is why the stormfags arguments will forever remain dull. If there family was killed by a black man who said it was payback for slavery (which was happened) they would be lose their shit. Yet on a moral level they think it's okay to kill Jews because of Rosa Luxemberg. Being a stormfag is a mental illness.
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>>2796645
No, the Jews should've been, considering a significant portion of slave traders and colonial exploiters were Jews.
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>>2796591
>Jews in Azerbaijan, Georgia, India, Greece and Sicily never had problems. Wanna know why? They weren't treated like second class citizens.
This. Non-Southern Europeans are barbarians who were just too stupid. I feel bad for Jews. Imagine being killed after being blamed for the plague. The fucking plague. It's kind of funny almost.
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>>2796636
Posts like this are why I am so happy the white race is going extinct. The world will be much better off.
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>>2796663
What did you expect with a post as baity as
>A cultural streak I noticed with most jews I've encountered is that they're the most compassionate and self aware people I've encountered.
>Compared to other people I've met, especially northern Europeans, who seem to take life for granted, act cold, and seem to be the type who will put blame on others in order to make themselves feel better.
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>>2796671
idk I didn't post it. I just don't get why people either think all Jews deserve to be killed or they think Jews are amazing. why can't you just realize some are alright some are pieces of shit like every other humans
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>>2796684
>why can't you just realize some are alright some are pieces of shit like every other humans
People prefer black and white answers instead of thinking critically.
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>>2789586
Very true. They are an outstanding group for that reason. First you must understand who or what jews are and what they rebelled against. Some say they were an isolated community. They were never isolated. The were the inbetweeners between christian and muslim states therefore they lack the superiority or ignorance one tried to induce over the other. The whole ashkenazi thing is a myth just like the basque. However similar theory of immigration for these two may apply. Ashkenazi are partially descended from jews that settled in an isolated region for commerce. Basques are descended from southern spaniards Whom were forced to move north to mock the franks. Youll realize in history that minorities surrounded by a majority tend to be the most compassionate of groups example christian arabs, a very successful diaspora. The Nordics were racist and if you lacked straight blonde hair, narrow nose bridge and light eyes you were not liked. One of my ancestors was a germanic spaniard (nordic) and they hated peninsular spaniards and vice versa. Yet both were considered spaniards by law. The nordic spaniards were seen as cold, non-compliant, isolated, stern, arrogant and prone to violence. They never chilled down. You could tell both groups apart easily. One has very closed set eyes and the others are far set. Now everyone is mixed.
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>>2796726
You had freckles it was considered a mark of sin. Red crazy curly hair same. I guess the nordics grew up with much more racial biases than jews did. This inner unnacceptance have made them unnaproachable. Whereas jews were the self accepting marginalized heathens and traitors.
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>>2796026
No because getting laid has nothing to do with this debate.
The fact of the matter is that Judaism is fundamentally and ethno-supremacist reigion/ideology whose core tenet is that ethnic Jews are chosen by Almighty God to rule the world. As a Christian, I have studied the Tanakh extensively and I can confidently say that the Israelites understood prophecies such as Isaiah 2:2 as meaning Jerusalem is going to be the capital of a global government that "all nations will stream" to. The Orthodox Jewish understanding of the prophets is that the nation of Israel will literally rule the world. . . Praise Jesus the Jews are wrong!
The Body of Christ is the fulfillment of the this prophecy because it is a heavenly kingdom comprised of all nations. The Jews lack the unifying Love of Jesus which is why they believe that they are entitled to rule the goyim. This entitlement is so embedded in the Jewish consciousness because it has been drilled into their brains by having to repeat it over and over in Yeshiva.
Some of you will say "but that's just the crazy Orthodox! Not all j00s are like that!" That is true, but the thing is that Orthodox Jews represent Judaism in its purest form so they are diagnostic for the general attitude of the religion. What this means is that while a Reformed Jew might not see the goyim as dumb cattle like the Orthodox do, they are predisposed to think of us as outsiders and "icky" in a way. Even secular Jews will have this attitude because although they are not religious they are still part of Jewish culture which built upon this idea.
Jesus Christ is the perfect Jew because He came to serve the goyim and this is why the synagogue of Satan HATES Him so much!
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>>2797330
Do you really think ranting about religion is going to "Redpill" edgy kids into crying about Jews?
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>>2796380
A list of countries Protestants have been expelled from would be extensive as well
Did they deserve it?
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>>2797365
I just want people to know that Jesus Christ is LORD.
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