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The Call of the Void

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27appel_du_vide

>L'appel du vide, literally "the call of the void", is a French phrase used to refer to intrusive thoughts, or the urge to engage in destructive behaviors during everyday life.[1] Examples include thinking about swerving in to the opposite lane while driving, or feeling the urge to jump off a cliff edge while standing on it.

Curious about works and philosophers dealing with this idea. Is this kind of concept unique to Western thought or is this dealt with in other cultures as well?
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This interests me as well because I have these thoughts all the time.
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> https://cpnp.org/resource/reference/88955


BACKGROUND: The experience of a sudden urge to jump when in a high place has been speculated to be associated with suicidal ideation; however, scant data has informed this speculation. We termed this experience the high place phenomenon (HPP) and proposed that it stems from a misinterpreted safety signal (i.e., survival instinct). The present study aimed to assess the prevalence of the HPP, to provide evidence that the phenomenon is not exclusive to suicide ideators, and to explore the role of anxiety sensitivity in the phenomenon.

METHODS: 431 undergraduate college students completed online measures of lifetime frequency of experiencing the HPP, suicidal ideation, anxiety sensitivity, depressive symptoms, and history of mood episodes.

RESULTS: The HPP was commonly reported in the general population, even among participants with no history of suicidal ideation. There was a significant correlation between anxiety sensitivity and the HPP, and this relationship was moderated by level of current suicidal ideation. Particularly, the relationship between anxiety sensitivity and the HPP was potentiated among participants with low levels of suicidal ideation.

LIMITATIONS: The cross-sectional design of the study limits the strength of the conclusions that can be drawn.

CONCLUSIONS: The HPP is commonly experienced among suicide ideators and non-ideators alike. Thus, individuals who report experiencing the phenomenon are not necessarily suicidal; rather, the experience of HPP may reflect their sensitivity to internal cues and actually affirm their will to live.
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He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.
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>>2781760
How does one accomplish this?
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Okay, so I was thinking about this, and I came up with a theory that comes from the mind of possibly the least capable person alive.

What I'm thinking, is this is a survival instinct. Basically, it brings the possibility of something going horribly wrong to the forefront of our minds so we avoid doing it. If you're near a cliff, and never seriously consider the possibility of falling down, you're likely in a bad spot. If, on the other hand, you are so preoccupied with the possibility that you feel a slight URGE to jump, you will focus quite heavily on avoiding this unfortunate circumstance. You can apply this to basically any instance of this.

Again, this is just something I came up with while thinking about, so it's probably bullshit. Has anyone come with an idea similar to this, while I'm not totally confidant in it, I think it's a bit of an elegant solution.
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>>2781784
get drunk and do whatever you feel like doing, normies do it all the time

the problem is when you are not a normy and what you feel like doing is not catered to by society
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people like adrenaline rushes, the thought gives them a little thrill
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>>2781784
Travel to Las Vegas and overdose on LSD.
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>>2781374
literally the devil
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>>2781835
Humans created devil to justify their own evil
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>>2781374
> Is this kind of concept unique to Western thought or is this dealt with in other cultures as well?

You have Buddhism, for one.

The Call of the void is basically the contact between a limited, fragile-state consciousness and the sublime emanation of something unfathomable. The more deep, dark, and unknown the object of "voidness" presents itself (either being a cliff, a state of mind, or a philosophical concept), the more it is primal, untouchable, venerable and - paradoxically - certain for the feeble / limited being. It becomes an altar of annulation; one that brings about a promise of escape; a potential resolve to the crisis of not knowing.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thought
It is just one of many common intrusive thoughts. For example, I like to imagine random folks to be cut into a thousand pieces.
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>>2781842
>humans created morals and the concept of evil therefore they are evil
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>>2781374
Sheeit I didn't know there was a term for this, I thought they were just called intrusive thoughts
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