Why is the modern man unhappy?

I'm not. Get fucked faggot

>>2778412
fpbp

>>2778402
Alienation of the worker from the product of his labor.

People lack meaning in their lives because they put off having kids until their mid 30s and by then they're misshapen and autistic and an all around burden.

>>2778402
Because modern life is unnatural and unfulfilling.
We're all debt slaves in this late-capitalist society, the true man inside us wants to return to the earth and find comfort in a family - however today we are told this is absurd, silly, and that consumer goods that we can buy with our invisible money will make us happy.
They don't, they distract us from what is true; faith, family and folk. The food poisons us, the cosmetics ruin us, we degrade into what cannot even be considered a man but a shameful husk filled with arrogance and pride.

>>2778402
Peasants to the corporations that own us, we wake up and don neat clothes that are washed clean often at the expense of the planet
We wash our bodies in chemicals, even the water we wash ourselves with is tampered with
We study to become indebted to universities, or we go to work in transportation that harms this earth
Coffee, coke, the like, it rots away at us during our breaks
We waste our lives away working for money we never touch to live in societies we don't want to live in
Men are no longer men, and women are no longer women. We are taught hedonism, football, drinking and clubs are the key to a happier life here. This synthetic world we live in can only provide us such frivolities.

To be lucky enough to escape to the mountains and live in solitude. To live a self sustaining life. It is illegal in our world. And finding a woman who would join you in the pursuit of breaking free is such a hard task. It seems bleak.
My heart hurts anon.

tfw no gf

>>2778437
touche

>>2778437
> Be peasant
>Constantly worry about starvation as farming technology sucks and a single year of abnormal weather could kill me and my entire family despite constant backbreaking labor.
>Have to constantly worry about the astronomically higher murder rate and gangs of pillaging bandits.
>War is constantly happening for stupid petty slights by some aristocrat to another that ravage the land you farm and set loose scavenging armies all so some inbred can claim more land that he has no connection to.
>Watch many of my children die from common diseases and infections before they are old enough to experience life.
>The state is so bare-bones that no infrastructure, reliable law enforcement, or system of trade can be relied upon.
>Experience the horrors of pre-progressive taxation where you're constantly deprived of your wealth while the rich get off scot-free.
>Look down from Heaven centuries later and see some well-fed, well-educated, neckbeard on a magical worldwide communications network with AC, central heating, clean water, safe food, vaccines, a democratic vote, and endless possibilities to experience his life and expand his horizons complain about how much happier I was.

>>2778437
The question is if our natural instincts are actually "good" or if we should work on erasing them. You're very easily accepting something as intrinsically good

>>2778522
Happiness doesn't come from security and material goods, who would know?

>>2778402
I unironically look to the future with optimism.

>>2778544
>Happiness doesn't come from security
it actually does though

>>2778522
>peasants lived in a perpetual state of foreboding doom and gloom
Please get the fuck off this board and kill yourself you brainlet.

>>2778536
Our natural instincts are. Faith helps incorporate our natural side into a fulfilling and productive lifestyle.
I'm obviously not talking about cave-man "fight or flight" stuff here but imagine yourself on a homestead, it's like that.

I also don't believe you can erase natural instincts. Carl Sagan said in his book 'the dragons of Eden' that the reason we're afraid of snakes is because our tiny animal ancestors were hunted by them.

However they can be "overcome" (e.g. Martyrdom), they should only be overcome by individuals for good causes.

That is fears though. Basic wants like freedom and love can never go away.

>>2778551
Refute it, LARPer. You would die immediately in the wild.

>>2778522
>Condtantly worry
>Constantly worry
>Constantly worry
That's one of those things that should sound more and more retarded the more you type it up but alas you went ahead and posted it sincerely.

>>2778402
I'm pretty sure that the historic or pre-historic man wasn't happy OP, or even had a concept of it.

I think you should just erase the concept of "being happy" from your mind altogether as it basically is a meme produced by the founders of the United States.

You're better off focusing on being virtuous and excellent than happy.

>>2778437
Nicely put

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>>2778426
Sounds like commie talk. Thats a paddlin.

>>2778491
>My heart hurts anon
then put down the burger and think about it on a treadmill.

>>2778551
he's definitely not wrong, read the Italian historian Carlo Ginzburg's book the cheese and the worms

its a pretty famous example of microhistory where he looks at the heresy trial of a miller from Friuli who talks a lot about the things that other anon was bringing up, and shows just how much it sucked to be a peasant. Most of his anger was focused on the church rather than the aristocracy though, since after the war of the league of cambrai there had been peasant uprisings in that region so the Venetians responded by reducing rents and taxes, but that didn't apply to land owned by the church which was quite extensive.

ITT: Depressed LARPers complain about not dying from paper cuts and backbreaking labor that kills you at 40 in the comfort of their air conditioned homes and leisure work week.

>>2778437
>They don't, they distract us from what is true; faith, family and folk.

Only the family is, faith can be discarded and folk should be replaced with community.

>Why is the modern man unhappy?
Because modern society gives no reason to the man to be happy.

Why do you think so many prefer to dwell on escapist media instead?

>>2778402
Materialistic world breeding him to love things and not people. There's always going to be someone more well off than you, materially speaking. If you concentrate on spirituality, you'll be much happier because inner peace is subjective, and there is a path there for everyone. There is only one way to be wealthy and that is to have a lot of money. There are plenty of ways to find Enlightenment and better oneself internally.

>>2778625
ba dum tshhh

>>2778633
Air conditioning in your home isn't a thing here in the UK. The average person just has radiators (heaters) that all.

>>2778633
While what you say is true, first world problems will eventually become everyone's problems if the economic growth of the world continues.

I mean, I have no problems imagining a future where 5 billion people are so depressed because of their deadening office job that they'll produce revolutions just for the shits and giggles.

We are no longer dependent on our communities to avoid destitution which means 2 things.

1: You don't have to strive for acceptance.

2: Others don't have to care about you.

We now live in cities that dwarf Rome and long distance travel means that many people you meet are complete strangers you will never meet again after a short period.

Compare this with the past where 90% lived in villages where everyone knew everyone and were all raised in the same religion.

There may also be a bit of survivor bias and rose tinted glasses. Someone with "melancholy" in the past would end up am alcoholic tramp or just die. Though I think we have lost our sense of community, there is statistically more lonely elderly, less marriage, more distant families and such.

>>2778402
Certain amount of people are losers, back in the days losers died or were ignored.

>>2778633
And inversely, retards just as miserable as the LARPers yet for some reason under the impression they must lie about their true attitude towards the world.

>>2778662
Not everyone wants to die of disease because nobody cares about anything but religion and farming.

>>2778637
Faith is needed to give metaphysical meaning to our actions.
Also community = folk. (multi-racialism doesn't work).

>>2778402
Humans didn't evolve to be happy. If we were happy we would never push ourselves. We will never be happy.

>>2778673
>Faith is needed to give metaphysical meaning to our actions.
No or at least not universally. It's possible some people need clergy to guide their lives.

>Also community = folk.
Incorrect. Nationalism is a modern phenomenom, traditionally people cared about folks in their community. Not people they've never met, but speak their language.

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>>2778693
Faith isn't limited to organized religion like Catholicism. Look to the Celts (Celtic), Saxons (Germanic), Mongols (Tengri) (it's all unorganized but binding).

A racial folk isn't a 'Nation'. I'm talking about ethnic tribes. I even said multi-RACIALism.

Just clarifying things.

>>2778720
>(it's all unorganized but binding)
But not neccesary, it can be effectively replaced with different, more effective traditions.

>I'm talking about ethnic tribes
So a community, talking about modern times?

>>2778751
Traditions are meaningless without metaphysical meaning.
Look at May-Day in Europe, it's a day of celebration and festivities that symbolises birth and the start of spring. Every European tradition from before Christendom has a Pagan meaning behind it.

> Modern times
Why do you think our societies are so fractured? It's because of multi-racialism.
If this capitalistic system collapsed tomorrow groups would fizzle down to ethnically homogeneous tribes due to natural in-group preferences.
Modern "communities" are just people living together because they're in the same area. There's a reason the diverse cities are so violent and hostile compared to the mono-ethnic villages.

>>2778402
The rise of Social Justice probably played a part.Since they're constantly told that they are horrible and worthless and that the world would be better off without them.

>>2778774
>Look at May-Day in Europe, it's a day of celebration and festivities that symbolises birth and the start of spring. Every European tradition from before Christendom has a Pagan meaning behind it.
Yup, but that's not faith, normal human does not need faith to live.

>Why do you think our societies are so fractured? It's because of multi-racialism.
Nope, I say it as someone who lives in ethnically pure society. Thus I can't comment on your other arguments, since multicultural societies are foreign to me.

But the point was that the "folk" of yours is a too wide category for a common man to connect with on daily basis. The tribes you switched to are not, but such tribes were merged to nations. Thus the community takes the position.

>>2778402
He gave up contact with the divine for mastery over the banal.

>>2778402
Too many rules not enough equity

>>2778774
>Traditions are meaningless without metaphysical meaning.
>Look at May-Day in Europe, it's a day of celebration and festivities that symbolises birth and the start of spring. Every European tradition from before Christendom has a Pagan meaning behind it.

That's not true at all.

A lot of traditions are based on the works of individuals or great wars.

Most nations, for example, have some great ceremony of commemoration on the 11th of November. In the UK we have Bonfire Night/Guy Fawkes Night, which celebrates the failure of a plot to blow up the English parliament and kill King James VI/I. In Scotland specifically, we have Burns Night, which celebrates the life and work of Robert Burns.

None of these are connected to religion or spirituality, but they are all important cultural traditions that link us with the past, our ancestors, and our history.

>>2778835
I'm not arguing that man needs faith TO live, but to live a fulfilling life. While that may not be the case for you it definitely will be for the majority of people.

Also, in a multi-racial area you'll gain a connection with your fellow tribesman. It's a feeling that is brought out when you live in occupied territory, you'll feel it one day when the diversity comes to you (heavens forbid it getting that bad before it kicks off though).

>>2778876
>While that may not be the case for you it definitely will be for the majority of people.
I have not made such an observation, please provide source for your claim.

>Also, in a multi-racial area you'll gain a connection with your fellow tribesman.
Urban "tribes" can do that as well.

>>2778649

>Air conditioning in your home isn't a thing here in the UK. The average person just has radiators (heaters) that all.


Lol I'm Italian and I'm laughing at you subhumans

>>2778875
Hello Scotsman.
You used Guy-Fawkes night, that's important because Christianity says the monarchs were given power by G'd (see Romans in the Bible), the Monarchy has had people die for them and were worshiped back then similar to how the Japanese saw their Emperor. Even in the 60's a vast majority of households in England had a portrait of the Queen in their house.

Therefore that holiday has importance due to it's attack on the Monarchy which is related to Christianity. As for Parliament, that falls under our heritage and that isn't connected, so you have that one.

You mention our ancestors and our history, you forget that ancestor worship is extremely important in the Germanic faith, so that falls under Pagan belief.

As for Easter, Christmas, Halloween and the like they are the biggest nights and are all connected to faith.

People in the first world are happier now than they have ever been, but idiot LARPer's think that because everyone is going to be sad at some point in their life then there must have been some mythical past where everyone was always happy and never sad. Just because people could and were happy at times in the past doesn't mean they were moreso than now. Just as the fact that people can be sad now doesn't mean more people were not more sad more often at previous times.

>>2778889
Go outside and look at all the different people. Muslims, Catholics, Blacks. The majority of people who aren't White Middle-Class believe in something.

>>2778897
It just doesn't get that hot in the UK, it's cold here most of the time. Not "sub-human" at all.

>>2778402
Modern Man is unhappy because in our hubristic desire to place Man within his proper context among the animals, we have counter intuitively lost sight of the fact that we are animals.

By which I mean we have foolishly come to believe we can control our own evolution, and are capable of reshaping out nature without destroying what makes us human. Logically, any human forced into an inhuman circumstance will inevitably be VERY unhappy.

>>2778911
>The majority of people who aren't White Middle-Class believe in something.
There are nations composed of atheists in Europe or outside it. Please cite your source that majority of society needs faith to live proper lifes.

>>2778656
This. Community gives purpose.

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Nothing to explore, nobody to kill. Massive suppression of our primal instincts

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>>2778546
What the heck of wrong with you

>>2778941
We are being oppressed by nature though.

>>2778933
You're beginning to sound butthurt
Just go have a conversation a youth at a YMCA then compare them to a God hating fedora from R9K (you're starting to seem like one).

>>2778963
Man is part of nature. We are a part of the natural cycle.
We have rebelled which is why things have gone so bad.

>>2778986
>You're beginning to sound butthurt
Despite trying to sound polite? It sounds more like you are running out of arguments and attempting to turn the discussion into insult throwing.

think it has to do with the lack of influence over the rest of the world desu the internet has slowly watered us down

trends die faster, jokes get older quicker, music loses its touch within 2-3 years, there's rarely any new genres of music, no grand discoveries in comparison to the past, nothing new, nothing revolutionary

we need a new world war to shake things up d e s u

>>2778900
You've completely missed the point.

The point is that you said:

>Traditions are meaningless without metaphysical meaning.

You have neither exposed all of the examples given (11th of November, Bonfire Night, Burns Night) as connected to religion, nor have you made any argument that disproves the observation that these are cultural traditions that have absolutely no spiritual meaning attached, and are venerated because of the acts of one man, or the significance of a devastating war.


>As for Easter, Christmas, Halloween and the like they are the biggest nights and are all connected to faith.

That's irrelevant. I am not arguing that there are no traditions connected to religion, just that not ALL are, that much should be obvious, and that the ones that aren't are in no way of lesser significance to a people, as is evidenced by the fact that they are matters of great celebration, ceremony, and custom, no matter what they might be.


>You mention our ancestors and our history, you forget that ancestor worship is extremely important in the Germanic faith, so that falls under Pagan belief.

Now this is even more irrelevant.

What does ancestor worship have to do with appreciation of communal history and cultural icons?

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>>2778402
Excessive materialism on both the right and the left. People need some sort of religion or spirituality , at the very least in some sort of existentialist way.

>>2778402
Because he is indulgent and everything is on tap

>>2778522
>someone who doesn't place his faith in gods plan
>going to heaven
WEW lad

>>2778437

>faith, family and folk

could you be anymore of a peasant?

>>2779025
>No Grand discoveries
M8 the amount of technological progress we've had over the past hundred or so years is ludicrous. Cars, planes, radio, telephones, television, computers, space tech, birth control, antibiotics, medical implants, extreme medical procedures, genetics, and more to come. The discoveries are not those things lying around to be found but the product of human ingenuity. What more do you want? What discoveries did they have in the past that we can't measure up to? Certainly none in such a short timespan

>>2778632
>people are mad God still needs glory
It's like they don't understand taxes

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>>2778402
no gf

>>2778941
What is this comic trying to prove? People eventually find ways to overcome what oppresses them?

>>2778875
>remember remember the fifth of November is on the 11th of novemenebr
Really made me think anon

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>>2779129
>remember remember the fifth of November is on the 11th of novemenebr
>Really made me think anon

Hmm...

>Most nations, for example, have some great ceremony of commemoration on the 11th of November.

Hmmmmmm...

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_Day

Hmmmmmmmmm...

>>2778549
There's about a billion people who emphatically disagree

To be honest, it is only stupid people who can't figure out how to adapt to the modern world are unhappy.

>>2778673
Modern faith i.e. Christianity or Islam is unnatural and autistic as fuck. There is a reason why it was forced on people by oppressive apparatus of state and church.

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>>2779025
> The internet has slowly watered us down
I think it is another way around, now artists of all kinds can be heard and argued with. The Internet allows us to form close communities and made achievements that would not be possible in the past. Popular culture i.e. culture for people who doesn't want to explore anything is watered us down, but Internet counters it because there is always some place to explore there. There are tons of new things for someone with an open mind and will to find them.

>>2779887
i highly doubt that

>>2778402

Disconnect between lived experience and the almost constant blare of information pollution.

Man is force fed absolute shit in order to be "properly" socialized.

The abandonment of higher hedonics. Man is told he is all victory. But the lack of resistance irks him. He doesn't feel he has truly played a game where he can wager his life.

He sees the path of older men as a fate. He is fated to be weak and impotent. He is fated to shit himself and fated to forget the names of his children. He is fated to be the prey of caretakers.

Man looks at these Fates and the prizes the world offers seem shallow. He then does the worst thing about these fates: He accepts them as inevitable. Without an inner Promethean fire and without a frontier, Man turns his body into a hoarders wreck.

And then the information pollution streams in and mocks Man for not being a Superman.

>>2778402
Nothing to fight for, nothing to do, men have been socially castrated, women are now worse than ever (suffer she was a mistake) and too much technology

So many things

>>2778402
Infantilisation of disaffected young men. Instead of looking inwardly to self-improve they form communities on the internet from which they blame society for being absolute fucking wastes of space burdens on family and society.

>>2778402
Porn. Messes with your brain chemicals and shit.

>>2778402
People sucking down farts, fingers in butts, dicks in butts.

>>2778402
Individualistic capital gain

>>2780368

Millennials are the black sheep of the large generational "family". Everybody blames them as an egotic defensive mechanism.

We did not create a world where slave mined rare earth elements are wasted on enabling women to be whores.

We did not kill God and luxiriate in his rotten you intestines.

We did not make the whole world an atrocity exhibit of cognitive pollution.

>>2778402
tfwnogf /thread

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>>2778426
fuck off

>>2780411
Nice meme, national socialists were people with deep existential fear who done nothing but accelerate their own demise. See Germany before and after Hitler.

>>2780402
You. I like you.

Boomers scream about us not being able to find work while they underpay illegal slaves to do all their cooking and cleaning and gardening. And they won't retire.

Protip: leave the shit work open for your children. It will teach them work ethic and ensure they struggle for improvement.

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>all this disavowal and spook-blaming

Get yon shit together, boys

>>2778958
Well I'm doing pretty well right now, lots of things looking up.

>>2778637
> community
Made-up social construct, absolutely synthetic.

>>2778437
lol

>>2778402
Technology has changed human living patterns (which have existed for centuries and only changed very gradually) so much so that we're struggling to adapt psychologically.

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>>2780417
>Before Hitler, nearly everyone is unemployed and cannot afford a loaf of bread because of hyperinflation. Land is taken away. Civil war and World War I had ended. French soldiers would routinely show up in Germany and attack Germans to pay for war reparations.

>After Hitler, Germany is split between West and East. West is doing fine with capitalism with the US helping to restore it. The east is under Soviet tyranny and anyone who tried to escape was executed.

Nice meme.

>>2778402
All we do is destroy. I think people can see that more clearly these days. Before science and technology changed the world people could more easily believe that there is something noble about us. Our leaders are clearly corrupt to the core and the system is insurmountably entrenched, it is depressing.

>>2778437
Wow, I completely agree; good post

>>2779109
Nay, the problem is that technological development is too fast; we need to slow it down, everyone is so busy these days that they can't actually enjoy the life that is given to them

It began with the socialist doctrine. You know their doctrine; crime is a protest against the abnormality of the social organization and nothing more, and nothing more; no other causes admitted!..."

"What do you think?" shouted Razumikhin, louder than ever, "you think I am attacking them for talking nonsense? Not a bit! I like them to talk nonsense. That's man's one privilege over all creation. Through error you come to the truth! I am a man because I err! You never reach any truth without making fourteen mistakes and very likely a hundred and fourteen. And a fine thing, too, in its way; but we can't even make mistakes on our own account! Talk nonsense, but talk your own nonsense, and I'll kiss you for it. To go wrong in one's own way is better than to go right in someone else's. In the first case you are a man, in the second you're no better than a bird. Truth won't escape you, but life can be cramped."

Seven years, only seven years! At the beginning of their happiness at some moments they were both ready to look on those seven years as though they were seven days. He did not know that the new life would not be given him for nothing, that he would have to pay dearly for it, that it would cost him great striving, great suffering. But that is the beginning of a new story – the story of the gradual renewal of a man, the story of his gradual regeneration, of his passing from one world into another, of his initiation into a new unknown life. That might be the subject of a new story, but our present story is ended.

>>2778437
Very well put

>>2778491
God bless, anon, and worry not. You can find a girl, because I've found mine. You can live a pure life, because I seen others live it. Don't give in to despair. Remember death is coming for you.

>>2780562
sounds similar to Rousseau's belief people are naturally good

Was it a mistake?

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>>2778437
There is always another path. comrade...

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>>2778402
Because The Industrial Revolution and Its Consequences Have Been a Disaster for the Human Race

>>2778666
Fuck off, Satan

>>2778402

When has man ever been happy, OP?

>>2778402
When has life nevever been shit.

>>2778402
>Why is the modern man unhappy?

Same reason ancient man, medieval, renaissance and enlightnment man was not.

Speak for yourself, mate. My life's great.

>>2782070
It has, for the individual.

>>2782114
It's been up and down, but pretty consistently content (barring brief waves of famine or disease) before the industrial revolution.

>>2782124
It's all relative but this thinking wasn't prevalent, again, before the industrial revolution.

>>2782153
Source on this? Buddhism was a whole religion based on life being suffering and thats been around for thousands of years.

>>2782153
>It's all relative but this thinking wasn't prevalent, again, before the industrial revolution.
Before the IR, life was so shit that literally apocalyptic religions were birthed.

>>2778402
>no more empires to conquer
>no more women feminine enough to také
>no more skill for killing is necessary anymore but pulling the trigger or pushing the button instead of glorious swordfighting
>no more great men desiring their bodies to rest in palaces of untold wealth and splendor
>no more great rulers wishing to be buried in magnificent tombs recognizible for milleniae
you can go on and on

Because I don't have a job

>>2779952
But real live relationships aren't as they used to be.

>>2782485
Perhaps, but did they really serve as a path to happiness for everyone involved?

>>2782491
Does the internet serve as a path to happiness? I'm sick of it all. All I see is people having superficial relationships. What is a life without real people?

>>2782496
Personally, I don't think that happiness is a path. Some people born to be happy, other to suffer. It isn't about fate and such, just about psychology. Internet created some relationships, that weren't possible before. I don't think it destroyed a deep kind of relationship that existed in the past. Just made superficial relationships more visible, they are nothing new if you think about it.

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>>2782222
it's a sad world, anon

>>2778546
How do you do it??

Alienation from our nature.

>>2778402
Rampant sexual perversion and drug abusing. Too many queers, too many trannies, too many degenerates, but we can do nothing to stop them, we cannot properly use He/She or Mom/Dad anymore, all because of "muh diversity" and "muh equality". Humans are doomed!

>>2778581
>Peasants live in the wild
Que?

>>2778437
This is largely true. We've created an unnatural prosperity for ourselves coupled with unnatural scale of human interaction. So wealthy are we that our ability to derive satisfaction from labor is stunted, so connected with all humanity that the connections to our community break down, so aware of the nature of our world that the neccesary illusions to maintaining happiness have been discarded on the basis of being untrue as if that really mattered.
All that's left unspoilt for people, men in particular, is narcissistic self improvment for no other sake than to have something that satisfaction can be derived from
We /mouseUtopia/ now
>>2778549
Brainlets conflating satiation with fulfillment need to stop pretending they aren't retards.
>>2778536
What is good is only what we perceive as good.
As soon as we start to rewrite our humanity we will cross a rubicon to utter nihilistic doom that will be the end of us.

>>2783078
Side effect, not cause.
>>2782021
Communism doesn't even have the false siren song of creature comforts going for it and it removes purpose directly and with gusto rather than as an unfortunate side effect.
It's utter shit.

>>2778402
Spooks mainly, make your own happiness.

>>2778402
These threads are always almost exclusively filled with religionfags bitching about sexuality and sense of community.

Makes me glad that I'm not partaking in that self-imposed bitterness.

>>2778990
As soon as you begin arguing that something can be unnatural, you've gone awry.

If there is a natural cycle, we are still within it. It is inescapable. Our technological prowess is part of the natural cycle because all things are necessarily natural.

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>>2783570
Sense of community is a key pillar in the fight against depression and suffering.

>>2783407
>All that's left unspoilt for people, men in particular, is narcissistic self improvment for no other sake than to have something that satisfaction can be derived from

Fucking kill me. Trick me into thinking there's a solution

>>2779001
As an outsider to this conversation it seemed to me that you are butthurt. While faith isn't necessary for survival it does provide meaning to work and to protect others in order to reach salvation i.e. being virtuous and suffering in order to bring about complete happiness or nirvana. What is the point of modern holidays? To increase sales of products. Holidays without faith have no meaning.

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>>2778437
>They don't, they distract us from what is true; faith, family and folk.
we have numale cuck here

>>2778437
Ted pls go.

>>2778522
You have to go further back to find peace.

The agricultural revolution was a mistake

Literal 2 fast sanec meme.
Life today is much more stressfull and fast paced than in every other time in history.
You are bombarded with responsibilities, debts, constant fear of losing your job, perfecting your grades for a good degree, maintaining and making friendly and romantic relationships etc. Hell, every two days we have an international crisis that shakes your little sense of safety.
The quality of life is shit. Food and water are abundant but basically poisonous at this point. The air is shit, plastic and everything related gives you cancer and there is so much culture thrown at you from every corner that you end up not appreciating anything. The internet is a fine example of this.
The modern man works 9-5 to barely survive and dying a shriveled drugfed little thing, bald from stress and with no family, having meaningless hobbies and interests to fill the couple hours every day he is not working.

>>2783078
/Pol/bait aside, this is a good example of the effects of the general emptyness at this time. People try to find meaning and an identity whether as transwhatevers or as edgy nazis

>>2782030
>>2782033
Absolutely revolting note taking

>>2778544
No, but the absence of unhappiness often does come from security and material goods

>>2783570
>Implying all those SJW and "sex revolutionists" are not one giant sick, perverted cult.

>>2778402
Have you ever read "Brave New World"? Modern society, especially first world countries, are beginning to look like that. You can see how "calm" the young generation are when they accept drugs, genome editing and sexual degeneracy, even HIV, like it's nothing, you can see such "reaction" on this very board as well. And they'll label anyone who point this out as Nazi or religious fanatics. Should I feel happy about it?

>>2786941
It really like, depends on what you want from life, from humans.
Traditionalists want stability, steady jobs, familie, small scale economy and politics that are not so confusing.
Liberals want to do whatever they want, without caring for long lasting consequenses. I dont blame them for that, its just that they drag the rest of the world into it and that elites exploit their love for freedom and enslave them in so many other ways they do not even know it

>>2778402
Brain demands more signals for him. Emotions, experiences, feelings, survival activities, media, sex, thirst for knowledge, -- anything that produces neural reaction -- brain wants more.

Anything here actually stand for "anything" -- negativity or positive both are fair game and the what matters to brain is the strength of the signal and it's variety.

As in brain gets bored when fed the same signal be it same sexual partner, same food, same house, same mental work, same porn. Neural reaction dulls with repetition and brain compels it's master to seek new things.

This is entirely what drives man's entire existence from birth to the end.

As modern world continues to take care of more of man's needs with increasing comfort and efficiency, man finds more and more free time left to himself and his screaming brain who demands for more signals of all kinds now that's not as occupied with survival.

New relationships (even harmful -- especially bad ones!), new movies (both comedies and gory comedies bringing back the fleeting wist of primal thrill of survival), new books, new tourism destinations, new fetishes -- everything with time stops being as satisfying.

Brain demands more.

>>2786969
This. People will never be happy

>why is the modern man
>modern man
>unhappy
You mean, why is the loser man unhappy?

People who don't manage to beat their primal objectives will follow all of these whinings these losers complain about.

>>2787072
>i am a successful person browsing a northern greek islandic feta brewing forum and you are losers

>>2787072
>just american things

>>2787093
Why do people try to explain being "unhappy" implying there is a "happy" state?

Why most of these cattle omit this explanation?

>>2787105
Ameriphobia really exists.

>>2787093
There's a difference between being a genuine sperg and just a failed normalfag.

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>>2786695
This asshole gets it

>>2778402
upheaval of natural rank

even if I have the soul of a peasant, now I'm a CITIZEN with the same rights as anyone else, so I can't do peasant things in comfort, I have to be continuously tempted with images of money, status and so on, while competing to not become unemployed by people from the other side of the planet

plus all the comfy peasant holidays and communities are stripped away so you end up alone in some bar or whatever on your days off

but on the upside you don't feel like accomplishing anything while happy, noblemen back then who pulled all the heavy loads had way more mental stress, now that burden is put on the entire society

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>>2778402
The same reason primitive man was.

We're designed to be unhappy. It's what causes to strive for happiness. If we were content, we'd never advance. We rebel against contentment, regardless of how well we are provided for, for contentment is death.

Life is suffering.

>>2786695
When peace was unheard of, and the homicide rates were ten to sixty times worse than those of the modern world, three quarters of the buried show signs of having died to violence, and nearly half of all children died to infanticide. Study up on violence in those primitive tribes before you start idolizing them.

consumerism (material, pornography) is alienating the man. a overly sedentary lifestyle. social links are impaired because of social medias and feminism (vagina dentitis) has made it harder to have physical contacts with women even if casual

>>2786664
>As an outsider to this conversation it seemed to me that you are butthurt
Was I the one who started with insults?

>While faith isn't necessary for survival it does provide meaning to work and to protect others in order to reach salvation
For some people it does, but is not neccesary. Even in religious societies it's still mostly about virtue=>social status=>respect, friends, sexual atractivity.

>>2778402
Has the average white man ever been happy?
SJWs just blame the elite white mans crimes on all white men

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>>2778402
Bad thread

>>2778402

Overpopulation.
We dont have instincs to help us cope with being surrounded by millions of strangers all the time.
We are also lone wolves all the time. We are surrounded by people but not a tribe. We dont belong to a hierarchy, sometime be belong to dozens at the same time, sometimes we just dont.

>>2778402
Happiness is nothing.

When can we explore space?

>>2778426
Neck yourself

>>2789292
Are you saying exploring space would make you happy?

>>2789386
No, i'm saying it's way more important and interesting than happiness

>>2783029
Find a woman you love and who loves you. Make sure she has the same ambitions, interests, (politics can vary but not too much), even better if you can work together. Eat healthy, don't do drugs, drink in moderation, get some excercise, find a purpose in life beyond yourself (like working to improve your community, cultural preservation etc. dream big basically). And make money to live, don't live to make money. This is what works for me.

>>2778491
I found a girl, smart ,beautiful, will be an amazing mother, loyal, wealthy traditional christian family etc.(together for 1.5 yrs) But she won't want to get a plot of land and build a homestead with me, nor will she roam the lands with me in an adventurous manner. I will have to finish what I have left of uni, get a shitty job, get a shitty apartment, work, have kids, raise them, retire and die. It's a be free or be with her situation.

What do I do ?

Is funny how Marx thought the Industrial Era worker was so unhappy, he'd be fucking shocked how fucking miserable the average service worker is today. At least then you were putting in work towards something you might see on the street one day and feel a swell of pride in an "I made that possible" sort of way, now we literally work for no purpose.

>>2786969
I don't think brain demands more and more, I think it just gets so little real signal and so much fake rubbish that it's the reason that many people want away from the grid.

Happiness is a social construct.

>>2778402
>>2778402
Because the world we evolved to exist in has been destroyed forever.

>>2778402
Because human life is not what it should be. We are all destined for something greater but our captors have put us into a cage. We are told that we live in a free society but we all subconsciously know it isn't true.

>>2778402
Corporations encroaching on public discourse in the west
Religion of death in the east
Horrendous social media perversion of every aspect of modern life
Near impossibility of living offline

Honestly the only things internet is good for is email and pirating movies

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It is already too late

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>>2787281
>violence is bad

>>2778402

There's nothing unique about moderns in this regard, humans have always been mostly unhappy. It's why retarded wish-fulfillment fantasies like gommunism and christianity have always been so popular.

>>2789424
Why is exploring space important
Why is the advancement of the species important beyond "it just is"

I believe progression is a natural human occurrence but is it important? Not really, more inevitable

>>2778402
Man has always been unhappy. Its what drives us fundamentally. If we were happy we would stop progress and everything.
This and how we are cursed with being limited, we cannot change ourselves. And since businesses push materialism on kids thats how we are made at least a lot are anyways.
By the time we can appreciate the important things we are already cemented in our ways.

>>2778402
Economics. All higher goals and aspirations have been abandoned, and in the absence of these, we treat the economy as the greatest good. If you want to argue for any political position, you have to do so in terms of the economy. People are so used to thinking this way, they can't even recognise what they're doing as ideological, it's "just the way the world works" if you force them to defend their position.

>>2794102
If you keep asking why, sooner or later you'll run into an axiom...

>advancement of the species

...and there it is.

Literally low testosterone. Comparisons between generations show that on average, newer generations have 40% less testosterone than their father's generation. Higher testosterone in men cause
>high energy
>uplifted mood
>motivation
>confidence
>healthy bones and muscle mass
whereas low testosterone inversely results in:
>low energy
>depression
>lethargy
>low confidence
>weak bones and low muscle mass

This is probably caused by: less physical exercise (much less men have manual labor jobs), less sex, bad diets (high in carbs, low in proteins and fats, which both have anabolic effects), sedentary lifestyles leading to obesity and environmental causes (xenoestrogens, pollution).

Happiness is a transient state caused by elevated levels of dopamine and other brain hormones, no one is always happy. But people certainly used to be more content, from leading fulfilling lives, thanks to stable marriages, raising supporting, loving families, and simply having well adjusted hormones.

There's also a lot of truth in what people say about current man's disconnect from nature. Studies show that depressed individuals are less depressed when surrounded by greenery. We evolved in nature and it's our natural environment from an evolutionary point of view. Being in an unnatural environment leads to depression from chronically high cortisol, due to chronic anxiety. Some people are finally figuring this out and choosing to live in nature instead of cities, I encourage you all to do the same. Buy some land, build a house and sustain yourselves by farming/hunting while raising a family if you wish to be content.

>>2795230
>studies show
>muh manliness
neck yourself mgtow retard

>>2795253
>guy writes a nice elaborate post
>all you can muster up is an insult
Are you the one shitting up the Spengler thread too?

>>2795258
it's gimmicky bullshit he's regurgitating from blogs written by bitter, nostalgic incels. complete meme

>>2795275
Are you a female?

>>2795276
nope, it's just pretty blatant that he's choosing to blame his bitterness and genetic shortcomings on "it's not my fault, it was better before"
people have been saying it for millennia and it's still weakest complaint ever

>>2795294
I don't see any bitterness in his posts. I'm far more bitter than he ever could be so I would notice that. Furthermore if you're able to reduce any analysis to a shitty reddit tier ad hominem then you're not really offering anything to the table.

>>2789927
> real signal
> fake signal
there is no difference for the brain -- either is just sensory impulses coming in

dichotomy between real and fake here is entirely in your brain as well -- if you're listening to your favourite piece of music and being told that music is transmitted through the most expensive gold plated audio cables and the orchestra's string section is filled with Stradivari violins brain will enhance your satisfaction of your music by telling your glands to output more of the "satisfaction" hormone.

If either of BS is true or if it matters at all has no consequence whatsoever -- the feeling of slight euphoria self-induced by the brain IS real and that's the only thing that matters.

>>2793988
Well, it does rather tend to lead to unhappiness for someone.

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>>2795230
> testosterone
> makes people happy
It doesn't work like this, anon.

>>2778437
how's 8th grade treating ya

>>2787281
>We're designed to be unhappy. It's what causes to strive for happiness.
not much good if people decide to kill themselves instead though if you're trying to expand networth of happiness

>>2780402
This. Kind of tired of hearing about "libtards" implying that it's young people who just got their first vote who caused this when in reality it's the vapid boomers who set up this political landscape, who were young in the 80s where they embraced shallow shit to the nth degree and started thinking they could be young forever and then irresponsibly started the mass immigration and then raised the millenials the way they are today.

>>2778437
You ever gone camping and it's fun the first two days but the third day you just want to get out of there? That's how I imagine this would be like. We'd have to forget about all possibilities that modern society allows in order for this to exist.

>>2795253
Sorry, but these are pretty much scientific facts. How much does this affect one's happiness is up to disscussion, but it doesn't mean what anon mentioned is not an important problem.

>>2778402
Niggers

>>2778491
Can you weak betas just kill yourselves and be done with it?

>>2778402
I have been thinking about this for the last couple of weeks as well. I cannot fanthom why I am so sad and feel so lonely all the time. But I think I have to agree with >>2778437. I cannot put it better than he did. All I can add is that I also think it has to do with the lack of faith. The first era of Atheism is here and if you ask most humans why they continue to live they will answer either ''For myself'' or have no idea. Life feels empty and I feel like a soulless husk wandering around without any purpose outside of ''making money and spending it''.

>>2782030
>>2782033
>not taking notes in a note book and having it next to the book you're reading at the moment
awful

>>2778402

Cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.