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Why was christianization of most pagans so fast?

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fuck, sorry for that name, i forgot to remove it
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>>2772869
It wasn't that fast? You have to understand that even places that were nominally christian still had the old beliefs being practiced in secret or even sometimes openly.
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>>2772886
I know about this, but there werent any religious uprisings as i know, except for Baltics. Also what about Muslim conquest of Persia.
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>>2772896
were a few in scandinavia too

turns out killing those who resist is very effective
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>>2772869
State support and powerful armies to kill and jail the unbelievers.
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>>2772869
Because God made a convincing case.
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>>2772869
Because they enforce the religion with a knife to your throat. This is something unique to Abrahamic religions. Sure a few others may do it ocassionally but even the Aztecs who did human sacrifice never forced you to convert. In fact, they might have incorporated your gods into their pantheon. The pagans in europe likewise did not enforce their religions with a sword. They were much more open minded. Abrahamics are extremely close minded, and destructive.
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>>2773021
*raids monastery
hol up
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>>2773021
>The pagans in europe likewise did not enforce their religions with a sword. They were much more open minded.
Not worshipping patron gods was grounds for execution or exile in many parts of ancient Europe.

Also
>they enforce the religion with a knife to your throat
This is bullshit and not really true fro Christianity.
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>>2773021
>The pagans in europe likewise did not enforce their religions with a sword. They were much more open minded.
>Early Christianity's entire claim to fame stems from them refusing to cave when the Romans began feeding them to lions for not worshipping the emperor.
T O L E R A N C E
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>>2773045
>This is bullshit and not really true fro Christianity.
it did happen sometimes though, for example when Charlemanges conquered Saxony
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>>2773045
>This is bullshit and not really true fro Christianity.
>what is the Spanish conquest of the americas.
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>>2772869
Their warchiefs and later kings were converted first and their subjects followed. It was very effective in converting entire societies very quickly.
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>>2773021
Thats because abrahamics have only one god. Polytheism allows that sort of mix that Aztecs and Romans did.
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they didn't take their heathen religions all that seriously

we really don't know a lot about them because they didn't write shit down..
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>>2773045
>Not worshipping patron gods was grounds for execution or exile in many parts of ancient Europe.
>>many parts
Oh look, bullshit weasel words. If this happened at all it was probably something that occurred rarely and in isolated circumstances.

>This is bullshit and not really true fro Christianity.
Fucking wrong, you liar. Your stupid cult would not have become the predominant faith in the roman empire without state-sanctioned persecution of other faiths. Furthermore, whenever you fuckers had the power to do so, you were all too willing to oppress and murder those who weren't interested in your faith.
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>>2773057
>it did happen sometimes though, for example when Charlemanges conquered Saxony
And it didn't work very well either. They usually just went back to their old ways and caused more trouble.
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>>2772869
If your king converts, you convert
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>>2773050
Except that the Jews were able to come to a compromise with Rome so long as they were willing to pay taxes and not rebel. The hammer only came down on you in Polytheist Rome if you were disturbing the peace in a significant and noticeable way.
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>>2773130
>Jews
>come to a compromise
WRONG
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>>2773151
No, not wrong. The Jews didn't get smacked down repeatedly for not worshipping the caesars as gods, they got smacked down for refusing to pay their taxes and repeatedly rebelling.
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Religions based on scripture that can cross ethnic lines tend to outlast religions that are handed down orally in one single ethnic group.

The prior tend to have a large amounts of transnational funds and volunteers to draw on, and tend to put a lot of effort into disenfranchising (and ultimately destroying) their rivals.
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Many pagan societies, particularly many Germanic ones, didn't have a designated priest class so for the most part worship and belief was up to the individual and religious canon remained somewhat loose. This meant many didn't actually take their religion all too seriously and were susceptible to being converted. Also what >>2773125 >>2773100 said, if the king/chief converts everybody else follows.

Different regions and cultures all reacted differently though, in many places there was resistance, either open or in secret.
In my opinion European Paganism probably survived a lot longer then we think, possibly centuries after the Reformation. In fact I had a Finn on /int/ tell his family we're all pagan, not neo-pagan but actual traditional Finnic-Pagans.
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>>2773351
>we're
Fucking auto correct, I meant were
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>>2773021
Typical pagan intelligence on display in this post. Do you realize that neither Greece nor Rome were conquered by Christian armies and that their conversion originated from within? As for the Germanics, although some of them were converted forcefully the majorit came to faith on their own accord either from a desire to imitate the more prosperous Christian kingdoms or from missionary efforts (the Anglo-Saxons were especially influential in converting their Germanic cousins).
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>>2773208
>The Jews didn't get smacked down repeatedly for not worshipping the caesars as gods, they got smacked down for refusing to pay their taxes and repeatedly rebelling.
aka.
Not worshipping the caesars as gods.
Sorry m8 you're not going to win this, pagans are not inherently tolerant of other religions.
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>>2773397
Paying your taxes isn't worship you fucking lib.
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>>2773402
It is when you're Jewish, they take matters of money VERY seriously.
Prove me wrong.
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The first wave of Christianity in the Roman Empire was both grass roots especially in the western parts, but also had a powerful intellectual leadership in the east (such as Origen). By 300 paganism in the empire had become a hodge podge of various cults, that had become exclusive private clubs. So one was surprised when Constantine picked Christianity as the religion of both the emperor and "the people".

Second wave Christianity happened because Christianity existed in powerful and rich kingdoms and states. So pagan european states had the choice of being political and economic outcasts or join the club. Also it was a way of avoiding getting crusaded like it happened with Lithuania.
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>12:21
https://youtu.be/faNge-o0V-k?t=741

Probably because of rapid privilege checking indoctrination by Christians.
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>>2773115
also
>constantly accuse others of being literal baby stealing baby eaters because you're insecure about your symbolic cannibalism ritual
>constantly accuse others of stealing your symbolic cannibalism crackers so they can stab and deface them, because that's apparently what every non-catholic cares about above all else in the world
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>>2773115
In a lot of Greek city states, you could worship whoever you wanted but you also HAD to praise the patron deity of the city. This was also true for the Roman Empire.
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>tfw born too late to participate in the slaughter of millions of irish druids
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