Which historical events triggered you the most?

>>2759547
The Nazis losing ww2. What could have been...

End of mesoamerican civ. They were so interesting.

>>2759547
Germany losing ww1. What could have been...

>>2759553
Suffering for non-germans.

the french revolution
what the fuck is wrong with you people

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That one time when the brother of Jesus tried to destroy China.

>>2759554
this.
it would have been interesting to see how american civilizations evolved

>>2759547
>M-muh Trajan!
Faggot.

>>2759558
*Jews

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Hannibal not sacking Rome.

>Caught the Romans off guard by crossing the alps
>give the romans the biggest defeats in history yet in their home land while never losing a battle
>A roman surrender so close you can taste it
>autistic carthage council doesn't support you with necessary men and equipment because of jealousy or some shit
>lets you stay there a sitting duck for years
>lose 2 of your brothers
>meanwhile some faggot named Scipio stole all your moves while attacking carthage
>forced to head back
>be given shit men, and young elephants
>lose

Still mad

>>2759594
They were nordicists.

>>2759547
FALL OF THE MINOAN CIVILIZATION. And end of the Bronze Age.

>>2759547

I dont get this pic. Why is Hitler butthurt at the roman empire?

but I get triggered at Napoleon losing

>>2759598
I've heard it said if hannibal got one ounce of the support from carthage that roman generals got from rome it would have been no contest.

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>>2759547

Fall of the British Empire.

t. Burger

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Not having the mongols eternally cuck the chinks.

>>2759615
I heard that as well. Shame. Everything was just going against him. I will say that crossing the alps during the most harshest season was stupid of him.

>>2759609
>"By nightfall, even the Old Guard was running.
Dear God! That such a thing could happen.
Surrender was Bitter, exiled to Saint Helena, a speck of rock. I do not like to think of it, remembered glories are sour by their very nature. Some men live and die in the shade of their olive trees, some, change the world... even in defeat."

>>2759615
you heard wrong, they tried to support him but they couldn't because literally nobody else besides hannibal could accomplish jack shit in that war and he can't personally lead reinforcements while he's in italy. Romans had naval superiority and Scipio was kicking ass in spain so they had trouble getting troops to italy.

Likewise Scipio was conquering spain as a private citizen without the Senate's support, his army was out of his own pocket and from volunteers.

There's no guarantee he could have stormed Rome, really what he should have done was leave Italy after Cannae and return to Spain where he could have anticipated Scipio's counteroffensive and prevented the loss of Spain, which was the real strategy setback that lost them the war.

>>2759554

i second this

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>>2759632
Or not having Based Kublai invade nipponland.

>>2759630
S-source?

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>>2759547

Germans losing WWI, could have prevented mass death and destruction to follow.

The assassination of Thomas Sankara. If he was still alive I'm confident he could have honestly helped progress Africa.

Hannibal loosing against Rome, Trotsky backstabbing Nestor Makhno and the black army.


>>2759553
Would've been horrible, desu.

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>>2759553
Stay mad, pleb

>>2759553
I cri everytime ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEPBdDMGvXw

>>2759609
He failed to bring back Roman Empire

>>2759702
Wasn't that Mussolini's dream?

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>>2759547
Not really an event but I hate Spain and Portugal for giving us beaners.
Thanks, you gold loving spics. Glad both of your countries are shitholes now.

>>2759717
>Not really an event but I hate Spain and Portugal for giving us beaners
>wahhh weird people are living around me
South America had it much worse

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>>2759676
I guess you could say they were dare i say... out of time.

>>2759659
He did invade. The Mongols fought and lost, they were already in retreat when the storms hit.

>>2759598
>no siege equipment
>wants to siege rome
kek

Julius Caesar's death

>>2759547
Death of caesar

>>2759547
Islamic conquest desu

>>2759896
It shouldn't be too hard. Rome was absolutely incapable of sustaining itself without its aqueduct system or food from Africa. You could starve them out in a couple of weeks.

>>2759973
>Persians and Greeks fuck one another to near death
>Out of fucking nowhere these faggots from Arabia come out and ruin everything
What a waste.

>>2759784
>weird people
More like death worshipping drug peddlers around me.

The Mongols not finishing the fucking job in the ME

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>>2759563

>>2759985
At least the Muslims become the Persians again when the Abbasids roll around.

>>2760009
still does not chance the fact that they ruined everything by murdered everything and the only thing they could come up with was their "golden era" which to be quite honest only happend in Iberia

>>2760034
>still does not chance the fact that they ruined everything by murdered everything
That's literally what the Mongols did and they're worshipped

>>2760034
Not really. There was a lot of progress and preservation because of Islam. Nestorian Christians, Jews, and the occasional Zoroastrian were significant contributors to this golden age, however.

>>2760068
Everyone hates Mongols, watchu mean?

>>2760079
What. The West loves the Mongols. Look how many movies and television series there are about the Mongols and then look at how many there are about the Ottomans/Arabs.

>>2759655
This. People always seem to forgot the Romans controlled the Mediterranean in the 2nd Punic war. Incredibly hard to reinforce through the Pyrenees and the Alps.

>>2760034
>That's literally what the Mongols did and they're worshipped
by fucking who?

Jap antics during WW2 tend to rustle me for whatever reason but,

>>2759554
Mostly this.

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>>2759598

The cold-blooded murder of 1,000,000 Armenians, 750,000 Assyrians, and 950,000 Greeks by the Ottoman Empire and the Turkish Denial today.

>>2759668
t. cuck

>>2760034
early muslim rule was pretty light, it only seemed to really get more violent when the turks came around

>>2759594
I don't understand why modern pro-Nazis believe this nonsense. The Nazis were fanatical German supremacists and a further part of the Nazi top echelon were Nordicists who were actively working to bring about a caste system even within Germany. The overwhelming majority of Nazi sympathetics today would've just been sterilised or shot under a German government.

>>2760198
Fucking Seljuks. Turks always have and always will suck.

>>2759547
The war between Russia and the Ottomans
Or when the brits RECLAIMED CONSTANTINOPLR AND THEN GAVE IT BACK

FUCK ANGLOS

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>>2759547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Days

I wish the Brits had listened to Lawrence instead of having him whacked.

>>2759598
God I love hannibalfag tears
Gimme more of that salt so I can sow the ruins of your city with it bitch nigga

>>2759655
This anon gets it

>>2759678
Best answer

>>2759668
iZombie

>>2759678
>not the 4th crusade
The fall of Constantinople was just set to happen. History would've been a pot more different if it hadn't been for that one certain crusade

>>2760098
Romans didn't control shit during the second punic war. These are ancient navies we're talking about, even if Rome won every single naval battle (and they did), they can't mount an effective blockade or "control;the waves" like a modern navy could. They were subject to the weather, subject to the whims of the Senate, and subject to Rome's own lack of inclination for sea faring. Carthage had plenty of opportunity to ship troops to reinforce Hannibal. They just didn't.

>>2760577
4th crusade is absolutely triggering but I'm not if it's because of the Venetians or the utter incompetence of byzantine rulers during that time

The burning of the Library of Alexandria

>>2759547
The cultural revolution.

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>>2759676
You're cringe.

You realise the commies were even worse than the Nazis, right?

>>2760977
Spot on for me too.

>>2759547
The dissolution of the Holy Roman empire

>>2760977
didn't happen. Gibbon was wrong..

>>2759976

>Roman Italy needed food from fucking Africa

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Germany losing WW1 and how stupid the Treaty of Versailles was

>>2759569
he did nothing wrong you fucking manchu devil

>>2759563
robespierre not beheading enough counterrevolution

>>2759556
exactly this desu ;_;7

>>2759671
You're the worst

>>2759554
This, specifically the Incas. They were great, I wish they had survived until modern times.

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>>2759547
Formation of the Soviet Union, fuckheads come to Baltic states and ruin everything

>>2759976
Lol wat
You do know this is the second Punic war we're talking about right

>>2759547
Thermidor Reaction

>>2759655
Not entirely true. While they did not exactly oppose him, they certainly didn't support him enough. People like Hanno the Great, a person that had a lot of power behind his back, opposed the Barcas and their campaign against Rome vehemently. Furthermore the Carthaginians were mostly sitting back neutrally and watching what Hannibal will do without reinforcing his brothers.

About the naval superiority - still not exactly true. While it's true that the Romans did have naval superiority in the SPW, and that prevented a large invasion of Italy by sea, it wasn't a naval blockade or anything like that. Carthage still could mount naval expeditions freely and reinforce their armies freely, they just didn't feel like it most of the time.

The Carthaginian senate hated the Barcas for having that much power just as much as they hated Rome for defeating them in the FPW. And that's why they sat on the sidelines while the Barcas were having it out with Rome. Their whole policy was something like this:

We'll sit on the sidelines and watch how this war unfolds: if Hannibal wins, we'll praise him and say that we've always had his back. If Rome wins, we'll just say that we had no idea what Hannibal was planning and that it was his own private operation. In the end the Carthaginians certainly didn't expect Hannibal to inflict such suffering on the Romans (Hannibal started poorly with the siege of Saguntum which lasted a year) and by the time they realized they had an actual chance of winning it was too late to actively help the war.

What won the war for the Romans is that they were acting as a unit while Carthage didn't exactly know what to do which created a bizarre situation of having the Barca's and their holdings fight a war alone while Carthage was observing that said war.

>>2763338

Carhaginians were such jew faggots, god damn.

>>2760204
t. Shlomo

>>2761007
Stalin may have been worse than Hitler. commies in general no

>>2759547
Partitions of Poland, Cold war

germany losing ww1
germany losing ww2
germany fucking up nationalism for ever.

>>2763547
Prove him wrong, you fucking braindead inbred son of a whore retard.

>>2763636
History is written by the victors, friend.

The end of the british empire or the fall of Constantinople

>>2759678
Mehmed dindu nuffin he probably ruled the byzantines better than their own emperor anyway.

>>2760210
Hey fuck you man.

>>2763338
carthage did send reinforcements multiple times, but you're right their division was an inherent weakness in their system whereas the romans, while not agreeing on any one strategy, certainly all agreed that carthago delente est. Still, Scipio had his spats with the senate just like Hannibal did with carthage, they were both operating independently until success caught the attention of their respective peoples.

You don't give enough credit to the Romans for preventing reinforcements, it's not that they were never sent but that the Romans were able to intercept the reinforcements before they could combine with hannibal. You're right about ancient navies, but this goes for carthage as well. Even if they sneak by the Roman navy, the sea itself could still ruin everything for them, one bad storm and they as investors and merchants just threw thousands of pounds of gold into the sea. Besides, they spent most of their effort reinforcing spain and failing anyway, hannibal was needed their and then he could have returned to italy, it might be hindsight on my part compelling my decision, but in the end it still would have been better than getting bogged down in italy with nothing to show for it.

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>>2759547
Hitler shitting his pants on August 7, 1941, because I LOVE POOP!!!

>>2765767
But what if it was mostly a bunch of bloody mucus and water? Google dysentery stool and you'll see that they're not normal poop.

The falling of the shah in Iran. Would have foregone a lot of bullshit to this day.

>>2759554
This imagine the possibilities

>>2766170
We would have avoided more shit if the yanks and bongs hadn't staged a coup to overthrow democratically elected government that wanted to nationalize Persia's oil production.

>>2759976
>It shouldn't be too hard. Rome was absolutely incapable of sustaining itself without its aqueduct system or food from Africa

You're thinking of the massive imperial rome of centuries later.

The plantation of Ulster. There would be no troubles if the Brittish Protestants stayed out.

The fall of Kekistan. Makes me cry just thinking about it.

>>2766257
Shit maybe you're right

>>2759547
Lepanto

>>2759547
Partitions of Poland
Imagine EU led by based Slavs intead of soft liberal Anglo-saxons

>>2759547
Ming dynasty implementing a closed door policy

The US not fighting a conventional war in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan

The Germans backing the retarded Austrians in WWI

The treaty of Versailles

The Roman Empire not conquering Germany

I think that's about it

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>>2759547
Death of Tzar Dusan.

Tfw we will never rebuild it again.

>>2759556
I know that feel anon

>>2759556
>>2759671
>>2762674
>>2767087
These. Second Reich, best Reich.

>>2759941
Roman republic > Roman empire

>>2763642
back to /pol/ with you pseudo historian

>>2763642
>history written by the victors meme
When will it die

The failure of Alexander Severus to invade Sassanid Persia and his subsequent death.

>>2769101
It's not a meme. I learned the hard way when it comes to Austria-Hungary.

>Austria-Hungary gets destroyed from outside
>France creates Czechoslovakia and handpicks a government made out of irrelevant university professors and emigrants
>this government then parrots the mantra the empire would break up anyway and they are just a manifested will of the people
>there is literally nobody to oppose them

>>2763642
Wew lad and no argument at all

>>2759644
If he waited he would have given rome time to mount a defense and prepare for war. Also, it's not hard to scout out where he'd be.

Probably the most logical thing to do would have enslaved the hostile celts and forced them to build ships and sail into Pisa. Or if he still wanted to be totally bonkers, turn north at Narbo, march north of the alps through germannia and pick up some more troops and then invade through noricum. Would take forever but didn't pretty much everyone want to take on Rome at that point?

>>2759985
It's because of fucking Phocas.

>Brian boru dying
If only someone had united ireland it would have developed and the whole reason England invaded in the first place was to help some loser lords conquer a few square feet of turf. Imagine the isles if scotland, england, wales, and ireland all got to play off each other and fight constantly.... Maybe even out the saxons for a celtic union. It would be nice.

>>2760204
>The overwhelming majority of Nazi sympathetics today would've just been sterilised or shot under a German government.

the shit redditors believe

>>2769556
But anon haven't you head if you don't have blond hair and blue eyes Hitler would've gassed you!

>>2763627
>germany fucking up nationalism for ever.

you mean America, Britain was fully justified as a nationalist state as well as many others until America forced their ideologies down everyone's throat or else sanctions

>>2769567
Not true. Hitler and most Germans had brown hair and blue eyes.

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>>2759547
476

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>>2759547
Nothing is worse than this

>>2759587
What's wrong with liking Trajan?

Antony declaring Cicero an public enemy.

>>2759678
DELETE THIS

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Emperador de México Maximiliano I not winning the war and his resulting execution

Germany not winning WWI

The assassination of Luis Carrero Blanco

>>2770659
JUST

Battle of Yarmouk

>>2759569

He would probably hand over China to the jews just like christcucks in Europe did, be glad he lost.

>>2760079

You must be a muslim


>oh veyyyyy remember Baghdad

>>2759553
1942 always triggers me. Everything goes so fucking wrong and HItler's doctor starts fucking with the meds and it all just gets worse.

>french revolution
>bolshevik revolution
>whatever the next slave morality uprising is called

>>2760577

The emperors and nobles ruling constantinople were too busy worrying about blackstabbing each other than they were about the people that they ruled or the realm.

Constantinople, deserved that cucking. Similar situation with the WRE, but it happened so fast for them it's also sad. Honorious murdering Stilcho set empire on a certain route to collapse.

Not an event, but a concept: "Manifest Destiny"

>>2760094
What. The West loves the Nazis. Look how many movies and television series there are about the Nazis and then look at how many there are about the Ottomans/Arabs.
You're some special kind of retard huh?

>>2771238
>French revolution
>Slave morality
Stay cucked

>>2759547
The Liberatores not killing Antonius and Octavian

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>>2761007
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>>2772486
the actual number is about 10-20 million, stop attacking strawmen.

>>2772457
Fuck , The West loves the Romans. Look how many movies and television series there are about the Romans and then look at how many there are about the Ottomans/Arabs.

What Napoleon did to Venice

>>2759547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Also the every Serbian army battle after Kumanovo was a waste of life

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When caesar died

>>2769063
>t. BRVTVS

>>2772021
With the failure of the naitive american reservation, you seem to need another maniest destiny.

>>2759547
Top 5
1. Destruction of Carthage 146 BC
2. 4th crusade 1204 AD
3. Destruction of the library of Alexandria 48 BC
4. Mongol siege of Baghdad 1258 AD
5. Cultural revolution 1966-1976 AD

>>2759547
fall of Granada

>>2761007
>b-b-b-but muh egalitarianism ;_;

>>2772486
Literally stormfag tier nonsense.

I seriously wish the Nazi's had won so I could see what they would come up with. All the expedition, investigations, experiments, concepts, etc thought of by the Nazi's were very interesting.

Ahnenerbe
Aryanisation
Eugenics
Ubermensch Soldiers
Any crazy weapon

Who knows what these crazy fucks could do

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>>2759547
Dissolution of Yugoslavia

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>>2770659
True. Letting Germany survive was a mistake. It should have been this.

as a norwegian

stamford bridge

>>2770699
What's wrong with having shit taste? Everything.

The Vietnam war

>>2759598
>trying to siege the city of nearly one million inhabitants
>trying to do so with half of your force after you've crossed the Alps like a retard and not using ships Hasdrubal offered to you
>no supplies because you've been retard and pissed off tribes that could've helped you
>no siege equipment
>barely any elephants alive
>dem fucking WALLS OF ROME ARE SO FUCKING MASSIVE
nope. no chance.

>>2775799
>nope. no chance.
The whole point of the statement is to do it immediately after Cannae, where Hannibal had just killed a fifth of the city's male population and the only two Roman armies on the peninsula were further from Rome than Hannibal was.

The walls of Rome are huge, yes, but they also are very long and when all you have left to guard them are the city's old, the city's infirm, and the city's women it becomes a lot easier to take the city.

Any other time and you'd be right, Hannibal would stand no chance, but at that moment... it was a possibility. Historians generally believe the only reason Hannibal didn't try was because he didn't know precisely where the other two Roman armies were and so was not fully aware of how vulnerable Rome was at that instant.

>>2762702
things went badly off the rails after they captured Nanjing and started burning people alive for not bowing deeply enough

also when they attempted land reform they failed badly, it turns out revolutions are hard

>>2769144
and subsequently Czechs are later abandoned as a failed project of France in Munich, don't forget.

>>2769567
>not knowing the great selection rules of Joseph Goebbels
GTFO

>>2775832
do you really think the citizens of the city would just stay put and wouldn't defend themselves? They don't need the army, they ARE the army. Once the Carthaginians would step inside - and that's only IF they would somehow be able to penetrate the walls defended - they'd be slaughtered in the streets by sheer numbers.

Alexander :( And then the fall of the Greco-Baktrians and the Seleucids too. Successor Kingdoms make me hard desu

>>2775861
Ah, yeah, just like every time a city was sacked in ancient times the citizenry just got up and fought the invading army out. Yep. Especially given how well armed they are, considering how it was actually illegal to have a weapon inside Rome's city limits if you weren't a soldier.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Throwing unarmed unarmored untrained citizens against an army that is building up multiple earthwork ramps to get onto the walls at various parts of the city won't do shit. The garrison would have to hold the walls alone, and if that isn't enough and the Carthaginians got inside then it's game over, just like every other notable city sacking in ancient times.

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This. This was the most cruel act of destroying civilization from civilized europeans. 1453 was made by recently nomads and muslim barbarians, but 1204 was made by chrisrians and people of european culture. But the consequences for Constantinople and Roman Empire were similar.

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Münich treaty always makes me feel like crying

>failure of Achnatons reform
>Alexander of Macedon choosing to go east not west
>Alexander dying
>God fucking dammit, Julius, why did you fucking moron set Alexandria on fire
>Caesar not uniting Egypt with Rome via Cleopatra
>Killing off Ptolemic dynasty
>Not anihilating christians while there was few of them
>Accepting christianity
>Destruction of the remnants of Alexandrian library, the Serapeum by - surprise surprise -
fucking christians, hence setting the science and humanistic approach to nature 1000 years to stop
>Don't let Savonarola live.
>don't let Wycliff, John Hus and fucking Luther to become martyrs, just poison them
>I fucking told you to kill that fucking dominican, didn't I?
>send assassins at Mehmed you venetiam cretin, you have poisoners by profession at your hands!
>Don't trust the French nor Spanish.
>Yep, you did it, enjoy your FUCKING ROME GETTING SACKED!
>voila, another 300 years of humanism getting postponed
>Russians, don't be so russian. Not cool shooting to the crowd, be tishayshi Zar
>Fuck you Nicholas, I warned you
>nononono, DON'T BREAK THE AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN EM...
fuck.

>>2775947
>tfw you realize czechs really didn't see this coming when Chamberlain literally said five years before that none can expect Brits could really help if a major conflict happens
Plus, trusting French. Brought it on yourselves

Fall of the Sassanid Empire
The fucking Eunuchs in Ming China caring more about themselves than the empire

>>2775992
>>God fucking dammit, Julius, why did you fucking moron set Alexandria on fire

yeah thinking about those destroyed tax forms and grain manifests makes me cry

>>2775999
We didn't have a pact with Brits, but with the French and Poles

British hegemony

>>2760577
Really, they were already in slow-motion collapse starting with Manzikert. Without the mountains or central Anatolia they were always fucked. That they held on until 1453 and even then went out dramatically is incredible.

>>2776124
Even though they held a fraction of Anatolia they still had a lot of manpower and resources from there. And if it wasn't for the 4th crusade they would've taken advantage of the Turks after they have been destroyed by the Mongols who were also being constantly appeased by the Nicaeans.

Honestly after thr 4th crusade happened the Byzantines should've focused more on fortifying Anatolia and then launching a campaign there instead of trying to reclaim Constantinople which was already laid to ruin. That would help them more in the long term.

>>2759547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia#End_of_Prussia

;_;

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>this never happened

>>2776295
If Visegrad turns out to be viable option after EU collapse this is gonna happen

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>>2759547
>ywn rape and pillage bronze age qts with the sea people before returning to Atlantis to ascend to a higher plain of existence

>>2759547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sakarya
God damn it they were winning, the fucking king got scared

>>2759632
>listen up, shitheads. I'm going to die soon, don't split my empire up like a bunch of retards after I go. Ogedei, you're in charge. Don't be a shithead
1 generation later
>the house of kublai is being treated unfairly! I'm not attending the Kurultai!
>uh-uh! If you don't attend it this time, my khanate is going to war with yours!
>b-but that's not fair!
God fucking damnit

>>2773928
You seem like a faggot and I wouldn't hang out with you if your parents paid me to do so.

Bismarck being removed by the Kaiser.

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Fourth crusade, and you know it.
>also the death of this qt

>>2759547
Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Fuck nazis and commies

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I will always hate Russia for this atrocity.

>>2775992
this

>>2777485
t. butthurt Swede

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I started crying on two occasions while reading Anthony Beevor's The Second World War. Once while he was describing the average age of the allied soldiers on D-Day, and another time while he was talking about the Final Solution.

>>2759547
the Stuart Restoration

bring back the commonwealth

>>2777896
try Timothy snyders Bloodlands

>>2759563
>Climate change fucks agriculture
>Incumbent and inept government utterly mismanaging the countries finances
>Deeply entrenched and corrupt noble class buying government positions and favor to benefit themselves and killing any kind of reform in the crib
>Continue this for several years with the general population getting hungrier and angrier
>Do nothing to fix it

Honestly don't know what anybody expected.

>>2778375

I'd rather not, to be honest, mate.

>>2759547
Waterloo

Fall of Rome

>>2761007
I'll rather get shot for disagreeing with the big brother state then get shot because I'm genetically inferior, at least the Soviets have some equality when it comes to genocide

>>2759563
This is how you identify someone who knows nothing about the revolution. Yes, it got out of hand, but it was inevitable, the bourbon dynasty it it's final decades was terrible, just read on their tax system

>>2777485
It was Russia's payback for the 1st Battle of Narva, except Sweden, unlike Russia did not have the men or depth of land to recover from such a loss.

>>2775799
this, Hannibal-chan would have lost

>>2778375
>>2779568
I recommend, anon. Not really about armies and soldiers, he looks at civillians from WWI to the death of Stalin.
It's fucking monstershow.

>>2759563
>he supports aristocracy

literally kys

>>2775992
>Achnaton
First monotheistic cult leader with enough resources to build the city in middle of nowhere which is abandoned immediately after his death? Cool.
>Alexander choosing East
Well, there was already someone in the west, you know. It's called Roman fucking Republic and they smashed his daddys anus. Not a good plan to fuck with them.
>Killing Ptolemaios XIII
A degenerated teen heir to the greenhouse of Mediterraneum? What could go wrong, right? Cleopatra should've killed him sooner, then anons plot with Caesar could be realistic.
>Fucking christians
okay, fucking christians, I give you that.
>Savonarola
Yep. Kill him at the gates right after his failure to preach apocalypse to Florentines, he'll end up as another coocoo robbed outside the walls
>Reformators of church wiped off
What about Borgias not fucking things up so openly that Rome is synonyme to brothel?
>Constantinopolis
dunno what would've happened
>sack of Rome
'kay, I'd literally cross time and space to prevent that

>>2776053
exactly. Aren't you silly trusting the French?

>>2776323
czechs, poles, slovakians and hungarians together in it again? what the hell, are you missing AHE?
>see googol
>austria and slovenia are going to be added to Visegrad
holy fuck you ARE trying to get AHE back!

>>2759547
Napoleon invading Russia. I just wish he'd stay in civilized Europe and ripped the Germans and Belgians to shreds.

>>2775861
Brennus did it without problems. The reason Hannibal didn't go for Rome is because he overestimated the Romans in that particular situation, extremely unusual for him considering he underestimated them every other time.

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>>2780041
>tfw no french empire

battle of teutoburg forest

>>2781681
well, someone has to be between those fucking russians and newlyweds of Germance

>>2761007
>You realise the commies were even worse than the Nazis, right?

not even close. Theres a reason the polish said they could at least survive soviet occupation, but German occupation would mean death for them all.

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>>2759553

>>2781879
> Theres a reason the polish said they could at least survive soviet occupation
I'm not him, but out of curiousity who said that?

>>2781879
you seriously need to read Timothy Snyder, anon

>>2759563
This

The Holocaust

King Zygmunt Waza being adamant about not letting his son, Władysław, become orthodox and Tzar of Russia.

Moscow becoming strong enough in the first place.

>>2781670
anon, read something about the Ptolemies and then comment. also christians brought the knowledge back in cooperation with arabs so thanks mehmed for Istanbul

>>2781681
didn't believe it but they are really getting the old gang together...2018 Austro-Hungarian Empire 2.0?

>>2781721
yet.

>>2759671

> Germans losing WWI, could have prevented mass death and destruction to follow.

We all know the result would be Syndicalist France starting the second Weltkreig and causing equal death and destruction.

>>2762041
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>>2759630
SHINY SHINY

>>2759630
fuck you
t. Burger Supreme

>>2759941
Brutus was right

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>>2759547
Sherman not burning the whole traitorous South down.

>>2761007
in history books the Stalin Holocoust is criminally oveerlooked

>>2759547
Everything after 1914 sucks. It's going to take another world war to unfuck the West at this point.

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>>2759698
this video is fucking sad

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>>2759547
>Which historical events triggered you the most?
what the Swedes did to Sweden... ;-;

>>2774644

>Poland way into western Europe

Remove this filth

>>2781879
We don't fucking say that.
t.Pole

>>2759547

Frederick Barbarossa drowning in a river

>>2786772
don't worry swedebro, I heard that some of you started raising their heads.
Maybe you can stand again. [spoiler]Even if you deserved it for the Deluge[/spoiler]

>>2781879
Wut?
Any source?

>>2759547
The falls of Rome and Constantinopole, respectively.

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Vatican 2

>>2759615
>I've heard

Munich conference

Fucking Eternal Anglos

>>2781660
>he doesn't support aristocracy

Don't get me wrong, there have been plenty of shit monarchs in history but for most of them it's in their best interest to do what is right for the nation out of fear of a revolution.

With republicanism it just encourages corruption. Why bother making improving your nation when you can just accept a """donation""" from a rich person and then fuck off out of the country if things go bad.

Again, not suggesting that monarchs can't be corrupted but if your nation is wealthy and you are its king, you are going to be less inclined to fuck your own people over since you're already literally at the peak of the social ladder, you want for nothing.

>>2787151
the french were just as much to blame

>>2760147
Kek

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And you can have it all....my empire of dirt

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>>2777485
>>2787293
woops, someone already posted it. So heres the runner up

>>2766965
Why?

1999

>>2774642
You're right there brate

>>2781670
>Well, there was already someone in the west, you know. It's called Roman fucking Republic and they smashed his daddys anus
>332 BC
Nigga what? The romans were fighting samnites and lost the first war.

>>2762946
>mesoamerican

Incas weren't Mesoamerican, they were in South America.

>>2774644
This map is literal nonsense and bordergore. Please revise.

>>2786754
What do you have against Claudius

Wow 6 days ago.

>>2761007
Stalin ate all the grain and paid the clouds not to rain.

>>2791543
Uncontrollable farting

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>>2759547

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The Death of Caesar

Islamic Revolution

Probably 1066

>>2775992
What a fucking faggot.

>>2776295
>Cities on Franz Josef Land
For what purpose

>>2760235
>gave it back

ask it to the greek that fought as cannonfodder for englishmen. oops you cant, because they got rekt and its not smyrna but izmir, not constantinople but istanbul. kek.

also burning smyrna to cleanse it of heresy was 2good2be2rue

The Netherlands losing Belgium

French invasion of Russia

>>2759547
Alexander the great being an autist and not identifying an actual heir to his empire.

>>2763269
this one knows too much

>>2763642
Victor strikes again

The fall of the Ottoman Empire.

>>2760189
Imagine another Christian country in South Turkey. Would automatically be better than everything around it and would host many Christian minorities, westernised too.

>>2759598

>~20k men vs 400k> pop walled city and army
>also without siege equipment

his strength was in outmaneuvering his enemy and controlling the engagement, he would fall to shit with his small force being tied down to a fixed point in a siege on the magnitude of rome, he wouldn't even be able to encircle it

>>2759615

it's funny to think the stabbed in the back soldier's myth is as old as rome

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>>2759547

>>2759547
Definitely the Mongol invasions. They turned the world around, Islam went into a permanent Dark Ages after and would never recover it's past glory of the Islamic Golden Age.

Imagine this, Europeans and Muslims duke it out for centuries, fighting neck-to-neck, then outta nowhere comes the Mongols and they completely annihilate the Muslims instantly. I wonder, if Islam had not been crushed to the Stone Age, could they have maintained their scientific progress and knowledge in order to make Europe more competitive? World would've been a better place most certainly.

the Prussian homage of the Teutonic order as the Duchy of Prussia

fugging traitors and heretics

Albrecht von Preussen is not my grandmaster! He is a Lutheran, and probably a servant of the antichrist.

>>2760094
The West loves the Mongols because the Mongols annihilated the European armies in Hungary and Poland and were ready to invade the rest of Europe, but Mongols retreated because the Khan died due to alcoholism.

Basically, Europe dodged a bullet there AND the Muslims were completely destroyed. The Mongols were a very good thing for Europe, even if we consider that they brought the Black Death and made Europe lost 1/4th of it's population (Much less than what Muslims suffered).

>>2760094
Why would you not love Mongols.

They destroyed Arab and Chinese civilization and made European world domination possible.

When the Roman Empire became Christian. If that never happened, the world would be so much a better, freer place

>>2797061

I like how this Graphic implies that Britain wasn't having to fight off the pernicious and vile machinations of all of the colonial powers of Europe as it captured its holdings.

>>2796864

If someone truly held this view then I would like very much to laugh in their face,

>>2796840
Edgy. They fucked the Russians as well.

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>>2797074
>Britain dindu nuffin, it's always fighting everybody alone :(

>>2769063
This guy fucks

>>2797116

that's what you get for inciting the brutal mob destruction of a monarchy on a continent of monarchies :^)

>>2797144
Lmao dumb Louis XVI bankrupts the entire country in order to save the US and the fucker keeps eating cake with Antoinette while the average Frenchie slaves away. What did you expect?

Not only did all those monarchies lose that war, but they also lost all of their power as the liberalism of the French revolution caused tons of revolutions in 1848 :^) France wins muhfuggas!!!

>>2797171

they had abdicated their power long before they were executed by the french revolutionaries

>>2796780
dixies fuck off

>>2796803
Probably not because they were the ones that mostly disregarded greek learning as a scientific source for their beloved qu'ran

Pearl Harbor.

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Battle of Philippi

>>2797193
that was one nice head for robespiere's autismal collection though.

>Spain not participating in WW2
the fascist church-centered regime wouldn't have lasted so long if Franco openly supported Hitler and Mussolini.
Spain literally had 3 years of democracy in its lifetime before the civil war happened. 3 years of the church not controlling everything since the 8th century.
the church in spain was a mafia
catholicism was a mistake

>>2781879
Referencing the Polish, who held a deeply ingrained bias against Germans supported by the Catholic clergy since the reformation is a little silly, don't you think?

The Germans could have ceded quarter of their land as good-will and they'd still have to deal with Pole animosity like a bachelor endures his nagging ex-wife

>>2796772
>stabbed in the back soldier's myth
>he thinks this is a myth
american troops in the past few decades would bitchslap you

>>2759547
The immigrant crisis in germany, 2015-2017 and going.

the creation of israel

Napoleon falling to the monarchist jews.

>>2759547
>Birth of Christ
>Birth of Muhammad
>Basically everything to do with Islam
>"Fall of Rome"
>Fall of Constantinople
>French Revolution
>German Empire invading Belgium
>Socialist Revolution
>Establishment of PRC

And so much more.

>>2759547
Battle of Waterloo. Was when the Rothschild banking cartel took control of the most powerful reserve bank in the world - the BOE. Ever since that the dominoes have been falling. Up to and including their funding both sides of ww2 to create the state of Israel. I refer to the Haavara agreement.

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>>2759547
Night of the Long Knives. When Strasser died, National Socialism died with him.

Sea Peoples

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>>2781139
yes equality!!!!!!!! such a thing to slave for!!!

everything that resulted from ww1

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>>2759547
>Which historical events triggered you the most?

Arabs really fucked up and proved their """""worth"""""

>>2759554
They still would have lacked horses, chickens, cows, advanced farming techniques and everything else needed for the advancement of society.


What would've been great was a small european population bringing all of that with them to america several hundreds of years prior to Columbus, starting up the process to immunization against european plagues and simultaneously introducing a stock of cattle and horses which would have been adopted by the locals and made their way across the continent.

Then maybe we could have had some interesting wars when the europeans finally re-discovered the american continent.

>>2787041
Benedict's 2007 muto propio has set things right, the tridentine mass is growing exponentially and I predict most parishes will have it in the near future