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TITANTIC WAS AN INSIDE JOB

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it was swapped with the Olympic for an insurance claim, they even have video proof of the ship rotting underneath the ocean where the fake riveted letters for "titantic" have fallen off and they see "MP" underneath

JP Morgan himself got a massive payout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvMPc1KuJQ
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Dude could fucking stab sharks with that face
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>>2754829
I enjoy this theory because it's assuming Olympic and Titanic were identical both inside and out.
Which is not true.
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>>2754831

except he points that out, the window layouts, the permanent lean which passengers noted

they talk about the decorations being exactly the same, only rugs added to "titantic" at the last second

also the fact that video under the water shows the riveted letters that have fallen off and the real letters which were on the actual metal underneath

as well as the undercoating which is grey and only Olympic had grey undercoat

they also can see the propeller serial number which was the one replaced on the Olympic after it was hit by the battle cruiser, also the underneath re-enforcement
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What about the Olympic being used as a troop transport in WW1?
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>>2754829
Who is this semen demon?
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>>2754829
Why does nautical vocabulary sounds so autistic
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>>2754835
Nautistic?
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what is this shit?

what is this board, did we just just NIST'd
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>>2754847
HA
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>>2754834

the RMS BRYNNTANNIC
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Did this come from /x/? Or /pol/?
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>>2754870
/pol/
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>>124010248
The letters thing was never mentioned anywhere else besides that "documentary". Neither was the supposed list Titanic had.
Aside from interior furnishings there were other differences:
-Different Bridge wings, with Titanic's extending more over the side for better visibility(See the attached image. Olympic is on the left and Titanic is on the right)
-Layout of the superstructures (Olympic had two promenades on A & B-decks, Titanic had one on A-deck with the other on B-deck being turned into enlarged staterooms and and the Parisian style cafe)
-The changes to the superstructure made the window appear randomly spaced on Titanic, they were evenly spaced on Olympic since it was an open area

Those are some of the easiest identifiers for the two ships but there were also differences on the inside in terms of the locations of some amenities, such as the Turkish Baths, or in size.
They are two different ships and to make Olympic identical to Titanic would take a lot of time and money. It's not just throwing down some carpet and changing painting over the name.

>>2754870
/pol/
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>>2754833

the "olympic" lived its life as documented and eventually retired

the original Olympic is on the bottom of the atlantic ocean


also the dumbass antifa commenter who talks about the hull numbers, he literally specificies that the 401 used for the original titantic had its rotor removed after the olympic crash which is why its on there.

also the rediculous claim that a fucking piece of paper that printed the ticket said "titantic" so there for its fact because there's no way to print some more paper
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>>2754881

are you literally refuting visual evidence?

they sent a sub down there an recorded it

and he already addressed the fact that they KNOW windows were diferent, NOBODY FUCKING CARED

they have pics of the "titantic" taking off with the fake port holes and windows and the prominent lean

the re-enforced and fixed underside from teh wreckage and countless othershit in plain view

and the final part the fucking insurance claim and the fact that the so called "original" olympic continued service as well as for the military after already in a severe wreck would never occur

only thing they had to do was simply rivet on the lettters which is factual, the real ships had engraved lettering and change the wording on the very few lifeboats they had and the fucking logbook
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>>2754881

and why would JP Morgan have his most prized possessions taken off at the last second when he was trying to transport them to america anyway to sell?

also the fact that they didnt even sell tickets to the first class section

the entire james cameron movie was bullshit

and the most obvious point, why would they put the captian who already destroyed 2-3 of their other ships in charge yet again?
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>>2754913
I am refuting it because it is entirely wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wKaTNLBc1Q
No signs of modification, riveting letters over, or anything like that.
You can clearly make out the first few letters cut into the plate. It's Titanic.
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>>2754951

you're showing dated footage of the riveted letters before they fell off

also you're showing pics after they already launched, there are pics from when the boats were docked and being initially built and repaired side by side

also this lil tidbit from a more recent sub pic where you can clearly see the letter C on the side of the titantic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g19dHge4mDk


and you're continuing to miss the entire point, WHY WOULD THE CAPTIAN WHO RUINED 3 OTHER SHIPS BE TRUSTED AGAIN

and why would the british navy or even the company who examins ships allow the so-called original olympic back out to sea when it already had MULTIPLE failures, the last being so bad they couldnt even get insurance claim on it
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>>2754992
I see absolutely nothing there in the video.
Smith was put in charge of Titanic because he was an experienced Captain and knew how to command a ship that large. The previous incidents did not change that, especially when the only major one was a collision where the Captains on both RMS Olympic and HMS Hawke played a part in the accident happening.

You're still not telling me why a ship would be sunk for insurance reasons when you would have to put even more money into the ship to change significant features, install rooms, and other stuff.
Which, by your claims, would never be used because "they didn't even sell tickets to the first class section", even though those rooms added were used.
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>>2755059
Under the change theory, If those rooms were added and not used then White Star Line loses even more money because they made extremely elegant and expensive furnishings and didn't sell tickets to try to offset the cost. Which means they lose even more money.
Does not sound like the moves someone trying to save money would do. If anything, they would strip things out and replace them with cheaper things.
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>>2755059

both ships were already built, there were no extra expenses

the titantic's first sail was to the port where it was side by side the olympic which was being repaired, then took off with the lean

and the ship waiting for them also cant be disputed
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>ice(((berg)))
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>>2755083
Both ships were built. That means their layouts could not be changed without extensive rework.
Titanic had features that Olympic did not.
To disguise the Olympic as the Titanic you would need to add things, and to disguise the Titanic and the Olympic you would need to remove things. All of this would take a lot of time, work, and money.
The entire theory the ships were switched falls apart when you realize this.
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>>2755083
Furthermore, you can still tell them apart when they're side by side due to the bridge wings.
Olympic on left, Titanic on right.
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>>2755089
OY VEY
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>>2755112

>this is a side by side perspective
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>>2755089

Jew
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>moving /pol/shit conspiracy theory threads to /his/

sasuga mods
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>>2755135
It's the two of them in the same photo.
Here's a side view of the two of them where you can see the difference.
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>>2755155

your pics have no barring, theres no date on when they are take, are they before or after they left port while side by side and swapped
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>>2754829
the insurance payout was like 2 million dollars

thats not worth it, its like setting your civic on fire so your insurance company gets you an accord
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>>2755170
They were never swapped and the photo of Olympic has to be from 1910-1912 because she still only had her original sixteen lifeboats on the boatdeck. After Titanic sank more were added across the length of the boatdeck.
Titanic's photo is from 1912.
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>>2755186

>original

you fucking idiot, the titantic set sail for 1 fucking trip and sank

the pics of it are after the swap
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>>2755155

bro, the actual titantic had even 2nd row windows, the ORIGINAL olympic had un-evenly spaced ones

the fact your picture has the names swapped for the pics shows they're already after teh fact

you got fake news'd
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Olympic had a noticeable list to port after her collision with HMS Hawke. After the collision, "Olympic" went for sea trials for 2 days, including multiple runs at full power. "Titanic" later went for sea trials, which lasted only one day and ran at only half power. Survivors aboard Titanic mentioned a noticeable list.

I think the real Titanic is sitting on the bottom of the ocean but its really weird, the conspiracy doesnt seems that crazy
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>>2755155
>>2754951
>>2754829
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>>2755239
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>>2755239
>>2755243

and heres the original olympic spelling, with the O almost right underneath that 3rd port hole

along with its bright grey undercoat
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>>2755239
>>2755243
gg

http://www.williammurdoch.net/articles_34_Titanic_switch_theory_03.html#18
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>>2755222
There is no"original" Olympic. Only Olympic from 1911-1934.
There's enough pictures in this thread showing her and Titanic and where the differences are visible.


>>2755225
It doesn't make sense. Just like the "Silverstein blew up the WTC for insurance money" theories.
You start looking at what's involved and see how much money would be lost- which turns to be fucking retarded for what's alleged to be an insurance scheme.
Some people just don't think history is interesting enough and try to make it 'more thrilling' or something, or don't want to believe humans could fuck up so badly and build things that fail catastrophically when subjected to immense stresses.
Essentially what >>2755182 said.
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>>2755254

you were already blown out in the image just before this
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>>2755182

false, the payout was 12 million
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>>2755267

silverstien paid a few million for the WTC and got over 1 billion in insurance and 2 brand new buildings for WT7 and 1/2

also are you literally trying to bring up building 7 as your defense (as if the controlled demos of 1/2 arent enough)

fucking NIST didnt even acknowledge 7 in the original report (which took years to come out)
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The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first tall building known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires,[7] and the only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed due to fire.

lets not even try to bring this up like its a debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbfqgZQG9AM&feature=youtu.be&t=180
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>>2755239
Congrats, you posted a photo with a misleading caption (The top image is Olympic and you can tell by the top deck of the superstructure)
Pic related is the Titanic with her more enclosed A-deck promenade and her B-deck.

>>2755243
You then posted an image of Titanic during construction and after she was completed. As if it's impossible make some alterations as construction was going on.
I myself am not sure for the change with the bow portholes but there must have been some reason. Probably something learned from Olympic and factored into the still in-progress of being built Titanic.

At this point, I cannot help those who are choosing to be ignorant and just believing any image with a caption. You cannot tell the ships apart yourself but proclaim you are know knowledgeable enough to say they were swapped/changed without knowing what would be changed.
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>>2755308

>I myself am not sure for the change with the bow portholes but there must have been some reason.

you're literally passing off the fundamental proof

theres only 1 ship who's every pic has the name directly underneath the 3rd port hole

then theres the other ship
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>>2755284
Silverstein paid a little over $3 billion dollars for leases on the WTC. It was still owned by the Port Authority, who has owned it since construction and still do own it, and Silverstein had to pay $100 million annual rent for 99 years AND cover repairs/reconstruction if something happened.
He lost every building he was leasing in the complex, had to continue paying the rent, and had to pay to rebuild the complex.
Even with the billions he made from his claims, he still lost a lot of money.
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>>2755315
And what of all the other differences between the ships? Some windows in a photo suddenly proves a swap?
I'm not buying it. It's one possible sign of evidence to support a claim of a conspiracy theory, but then that's going against the numerous other pieces of evidence that show they were, and always were, two different ships.
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>>2755319

hey paid off the rebuild of both towers entirely from the insurance
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>>2754992
>C on the side of the titantic
As in titaniC?
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>>2755239
>take pic of ship
>put caption on "this is the real Titanic"
>this is now solid evidence and a credible source
Tin foil really does cause brain damage.
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>>2755477
>Tin foil
fun fact: that makes it easier for a person to be brainwashed
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>poltard conspiracyshit thread moved to /his/
BRAVO MODERATORS
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>>2755182
>>2755186
>>2755267
>>2755254
>>2755308
>>2755477
>>2755559
>>2755592

the changes are clearly and visually pointed out at this time mark, btfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvMPc1KuJQ&feature=youtu.be&t=520
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>>2755651
>08:53
Shows grainy pic. Claims it’s Titanic prop. Doesn’t prove claim

>09:44
Claims refitting should only take a few hours. Really?

>10:24
“Mysteriously acquired two extra port holes”
Shows pic of boat with no extra port holes

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