Did I miss anything/get anything wrong? I will post a blank.

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Astur-Leonese and Aragonese are pretty much dead languages at this point.

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>>2752926
> Don Kossack?
Kalmyks (Mongol Buddhist that lives in Russia)

>>2752935
It's 1914.

>>2752926

Try substituting Inuit languages for Uralic and we're getting closer.

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>>2752946
>>2752964

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>>2752926
> Inuit languages?
Uralic ones, Samoyeds and such. Close to Finns.

>>2752926
Yes, you vastly overrated presence of Occitan and Kurdish and vastly underrated presence of Polish and Armenian.

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>>2752926
> swiss italian
Looks like Romansh

Where is esperanto?

>>2752926
Croatian and serbo croat is a bit confusing

>>2752926
What you labeled as swiss italian is romansh, the green speaking part of Switzerland is the one speaking "swiss italian", which by the way doesn't exist and is just lombard. To have swiss french as a distinct language but NOT swiss german is ridicolous. Swiss french presents virtually no difference from standard french except for a few colloqualism whereas swiss german is rightfully its own language
t. Swiss italian

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>Lallans
>"Scottish English"
TAK THA HAUNCE YE PLOUKIT GOMERIL

REEEEEEEEE

>>2752926
Swiss french is called arpitan but i am not sure how alive it was at this point and today most people speak french on both sides

>>2752926

>Baleares
>Catalan

>Valencia
>Catalan

Aqui se estan tratando de implicar gilipolleces

>>2752926

Isn't ironic that all north Africa speaks arabic and yet all the bad shit and segregation happens there?

>>2752926
There is a little almost extinct language called elfdalian in Sweden, at this time it was probably large enough to be on the map
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfdalian

>>2752926
>>2752926
Why do you have serbo-croat and croatian? They are virtually identical, serbo-croat is fine for both.

Also, vlachian (not sure it's called that way but that is beside the point) is nowhere near as dominant in eastern Serbia as that map shows. It is spoken but in a tiny minorty.

Also, while Macedonian is similar to Bulgarian, has more differences from it than say Serbian and Croatian do

>>2752926
The one you labeled "croatian" is the kaykavian dialect of serbo-croatian
The one you called vlachian is the torlakian dialect of serbo-croatian
The one you called istrian is friulian
Swiss French is normally called Franco-provençal
You forgot the Saami languages and Aragonese

>>2752926
Assyrian should probably be big enough to get a label

>>2752926
Scottish english is called scots and it is its own language

>>2753222
Scots is no more its own language than deep, deep Southern US English spelled phonetically. It's a dialect that's a bit hard to follow, but more mutually intelligible with RP English than many other dialects considered the same language. I've never been to Bagpipestan and I can still understand 2/3 of this lecture, that and the fact written Scots just looks like English a toddler wrote is proof it's mutually intelligible enough to not seriously merit being its own language outside the deranged minds of SNP voters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cENbkHS3mnY

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OP here. I can't edit the map right now because of work. Thank you for your contributions

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>>2752926
Bulgaria - these areas have Turkish minorities <50% and Turkish is not used in schools or official places. They all speak Bulgarian, so they are bilingual at best. Please remove and put only Bulgarian.

>>2753274
Scots has historically been considered a language in its own right by every other people who encountered it. Danes, French, Italians, Irish, etc. It's only in recent times that people have started to consider it a dialect of English.

This is a problem which is compounded by the fact that most Scottish people outside of Fife don't know how to speak Scots, and what they speak instead is English peppered with Scots words, or Scottish-English.

Modern linguistic classifications of Scots usually distinguish between "dense Scots"
>A skylter o roch grun, fin granfadder's fadder brukit in fae thi hedder an third funn.
And "thin Scots"
>Wha's aucht him? Whit man and woman felt in their bed the bairn he wes kick at the wame?
They're both noticeably different from standard English but one of them is more mutually intelligible.

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>>2753278

>>2752926
That's Arpitan not Swiss French

>>2752926
WAY overestimates Vlachs in Eastern Serbia.

Even in 1914, probably overestimates Occitan.

Underestimates Poles in the West.

The decisions about what dialects to differentiate and what to not seems arbitrary. If you're going to separate Scottish English from English, Scanian from Swedish, Kaykavian from Torlakian, etc. then you just as easily separate High from Low German.

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>splitting up french and italian but not german

I wonder who was behind this post?

>>2752926
Welsh, Irish and Gaelic should be in much smaller pockets than that.

>>2753291
Kek. These mental gymnastics used to justify the 500.000 turks in your country.

Any particular reason you did what you did with the Latvian border?

The Northeastern border region really isn't Russian speaking, and the Southeastern is partially Belarusian and Polish.

>>2753064
Google translator is shit pal.Try a new one next time

>>2752926

So who thought that placing all those Romanian speakers into Hungary was a good idea?

OP here. I can edit the map now. I didn't make the map itself, I just labeled it. I can however make minor corrections to colour distribution. Also, I'd like to point out that the map is set in 1914.

>>2755511
Even if we consider them Turks, the map is inaccurate. There aren't that many Turks in the North, only a handful in Razgrad

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I need help especially in Caucasian minors and the Inuit ones.

>>2752926
Part of these "Tatars" in Russia are actually Finno-Ugric speakers like Mari and Mordva.
Pink in the north of Scandinavia is Saami.

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>>2756118

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>>2756114
Caucasus is pretty much the same. Chechnya was briefly Russified in the 1950s, but then the Chechens returned and all the Russians were killed or expelled during the wars.

>>2752926
What's tatars, precious?

>>2756127
Very helpful! Thank you.

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>>2756128
I need something like >>2756127
on that.

>>2752926
Bornholm is the same dialect as Scanian, whereas Bornholm is just danish, and Scanian is just plain Scanian.

Also, if I were you, I'd list Ukrainean and belorussian as dialects tbqfh

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>>2753320
>reading a letter from 17th century Ireland
>it's an English landlord writing to the government to send him a Scottish translator because he can't understand letters from his Scottish tenants
I wonder wwhat hijinks they got up to

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>>2756140
You can use this to put proper labels on the Turkic/Uralic mess in Russia.

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>>2756158
>>2756148

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Okay I'm sorry but there is no excuse for this region looking so much like a dick.

Why did they choose those colors.

>>2756174
Ume sami should be Northern Sami
S. Sami should be Lule Sami

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You use modern Armenian and Kurdish speakers for 1914. Armenians used to be spread all over Eastern Turkey but they got and Kurds used to be only in the southeastern part until last decades.

Why don't you use the actual maps we have from just before WW like pic related?

>>2756194
That map is ethnicity, not language.

>>2756206
Are you implying Armenians spoke Kurdish?

>>2756225
N-no

>>2756228
Do you deny Armenian genocide?

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>>2756264
No. It's dumb to give the German Empire blame too, though.

>>2756267
So my German friend, how do you explain the map of OP using spread of Kurds in 2000s for a map made for 1914 when Armenians used to be majority in all those lands until they have been genocided by Turks?

>>2756287
So your point is that OP's map in that region is inaccurate due to the genocide of armenians?

>>2756304
Yes, the majority of the areas that shows Kurds in OP's map should be Armenians, because Kurds replaced them after Armenian Genocide, which happened after 1914.

>>2756323
What can I do to correct it?
Just paint Armenian red over those kurdish lands?

>>2756325
Yes. They did speak armenian, not kurdish. The kurds filled the vaccuum after the armenian genocide.

>>2756325
Yes but not all of it, just north and west of the lake, compare and match with the map I posted here:

>>2756194

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>>2756332
Did I over-do it?

>>2756361
I dont think there should be a gap between russian armenia and turkish armenia

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>>2756372
>>2756194
>>2756358

>>2752926
Mirandese in Portugal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirandese_language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pE0S9AYijk

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>>2756416

>>2753029
this exactly
I'm a french talking swiss btw.
If you put "swiss french" apart from french (wich is highly pedantic, at best) you really should put swiss german as its own language. A German wouldn't understand a swiss german speaking in its dialect, whereas any French would understand me or any other Swiss.

>>2756384
Much better

>>2756435
nice, but you could precise the "berber" language.
For instance, north of Algeria speaks kabyl

>>2756495
I'd like to. I need more concrete information, like that caucasian infographic

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>>2756500
Here, it goes further South than your map, but you have the Magreb region in details

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SKÅNE B T F O
CONFIRMED RESERVE DANES

>>2756500
>>2756515
Sorry on the map, the language are in translitteral English, I think these denominations are more readable:

Tashelhit (Tacelḥit), Kabylian (Taqbaylit), Atlas Tamazight (Tamaziɣt), Rif-Berber (Tmaziɣt), Shawi (Tacawit) and Tuareg (Tamahaq/Tamaceq/Tamajaq).

>>2756520
Scanian is definitely not its own language so it doesnt really make sense for it to be its own thing on the map
Make it swedish

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>>2756515

>>2756559
Whats that little purple dot in the Levant?

>>2756562
Greek i think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiochian_Greek_Christians

>>2752926
>people in the southern coast of Finland are predominantly Swedish-speaking
Yeah, nah. They're a small minority in and around Helsinki.

>>2756594
Even in 1914?

>>2756456
Do you know Swiss-German? Can you give me a sample?
As someone who understands a little bit of standard-German I think it would be interesting to see the contrast.

>>2756559
>he still doesn't distinguish between swiss german and german, despite franco-provencal being about 90% intellegible with french, whereas swiss german is almost incomprehensible to german speakers
get a grip

>>2756599
No, finns were a majority in Helsinki but the countryside was still swedish
>>2756594 is probably just a nationalistic finn

>>2756610
OP here. I am German, and it's understandable.
I could communicate with a Swiss person. but there is a clear difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0aoquU_bN0

>>2756610
English: Is there a hospital nearby?
German: Gibt es ein Krankenhaus in der Nähe?
Swiss German: Hät's da es Spital i de Nöchi?

>>2753359
>>2753060
>Arpitan
disgusting

It's called Franco-Provençal you Maoist shills.

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>>2756613
forgot to unhide the layer

>>2756619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okpdhrw4eIE
Normal German for comparison.

>>2756624
What has Arpitan got to do with Maoism?

>>2756641
The word "Arpitan" was invented by a Maoist in the 1970s.

>>2756654
Well wouldnt you say franco-provencal is a bit misleading?

>>2752926
Is this map about languages or dialects? I don't get it.

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well, there were more poles

>>2756678
Both.
>>2756679
Completely unbiased, Wladisláw!

>>2756679
The map is in 1914
Not sure how it was in the east but alot of germans got expelled or moved in the west after the war

>>2756654
Who gives a shit who made the word, are you 12?

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>>2752926

>>2756674
Arpitan is even more confusing, it's a nonsensical contraction of "alp" meaning mountains (even though most of Francoprovençal land isn't in the mountains and most of the Alps isn't Francoprovençal) and the Occitan (and not Francoprovençal) suffix "itan". And when it was originally invented it was supposed to include Basques and shit.

Francoprovençal may be somewhat confusing but it's the only correct term there is.

>>2756698
Shut up retard.

>>2756703
This map is set in modern time and is really inaccurate at that

>>2753040
It's true though. The Anglos settled all over the Eastern Lowlands as did the Norse in the West Lowlands (e.g. Largs) and Shetland Islands.

>>2756610
>>2756619
Well that depends a lot from the region the Swiss is originating from and his effort to speak understandable german.
It's like a German from Köln speaking in Kölsch, it sounds like german but it's not Hochdeutsch and it's really hard to understand if he speaks casually.

>>2756622
this anon gives a good example. I cannot make up a good example because I don't speak well enough german nor swiss german. Part of the problem is that swiss german is not usually written, just spoken and it's been a few years since my military experience so my rememberings are a bit rusty about the differences.
The counting system is quite funny (but it's hard to feel the difference by writing):
One, two, three, four five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, thirty-three
Eins, zwei, drei, vier, fünf, sechs, sieben, acht, neun, zehn, dreiunddreissig
Ei, zwö, drü, vier, füf, sachs, sieb, acht, nün, zah, drüdrisk
"Hello. How are you? What are you doing? Good night. Sleep tight. Dream well. I love you. I (love) you too."
"Guten tag. Wie geht es dir? Was machst du? Gute nacht. Schlaf gut. Träum süss. Ich liebe dich. Ich dich auch."
"Grüezi, Wie gots de? Was machsch? Guet Nacht. schlof guet, Trüm süess, Ich liebi di. I di au"

>>2756760
mutual intelligibility between high and swiss german is a thing.

>>2756769
Not really, I'm from Westfalia and don't understand shit. Might even argue that I understand more Dutch than Swiss German.

>>2756769
yes of course, but you would still need adaptation. Plus some swiss german I talked to agreed than certain other swiss german dialects were hardly understandable.

>>2756769
I would add that it's not for Nothing that when they speak in a certain swiss german on television they always put subtitles in Hochdeutsch.

>>2753359
>>2756624
Would calling "Arpitan", "Burgundian" or "Savoyard" be better?

>>2756712
Cool argument, I understand your rationale now

>>2752926
>Swiss French
>Occitan

How about you stop listening to regionalist memes?

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>>2756845
Hi, Jacques.

>>2753652
This, this, this.

>>2756809
I am too.

>>2756384
Add more georgians and assyrians now

>>2756884
sure. support that request with proof, please

>>2756626
Change Kaykavian to Kajkavian and add Chakavian if you're including Kajkavian in the first place
Change Istrian to Friulian
Add Wallonian
Further divide Italian and German

>>2756887
Lazes are a type of georgians
>>2756194
>>2756127

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>>2756903

>>2753652
Maybe because Italian, Venetian, Piedmontese, Neapolitan, Sicilian, and Sardinian are all literally different languages, while German is one language.

>>2756963
This is why I will not change the German.

>>2756190
Underrated post

>>2756972
Isn't the map about dialect and languages though?

>>2752926
That part between Serbs and Bulgars is called torlakian I believe, it's a group of transitional dialects between Serbo-Croatian and Bulgarian/Macedonian dialects

Vlach is something else, it's a Latin language

>>2756988
German is one language and the dialects aren't significant enough to be listed.

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>>2756887
not alot of detailed maps of the region out there
this one is obviously not very precise and its assyrian made so might be a bit biased
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide#/media/File:Assyrian_population_1914.svg for description

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>>2757004

>>2757014
In Russia, the the unlabeled yellow is Mordvin, and the one you've labeled Mordwin is actually Mari, see >>2756158

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>>2756996
>dialects aren't significant enough to be listed

>>2756828
Arpitan is bullshit, see >>2756711

Savoyard is just one dialect of Francoprovençal, the one spoken in Savoie which is a tiny region. And Burgundy is a completely different place which doesn't speak Francoprovençal at all.

>>2756996
Remove scanian if you are not going to split up german

>>2757048
Yeah, I figured I got something wrong. the tilt confused me
>>2757069
How different or indifferent is scanian?

>>2753274
Swedish, Danish and Norweigian are not languages by that logic.

>>2757075
It is the most distinct dialect in Sweden but you can still understand it 100%, i would say the finnish dialects are harder to understand.
It was probably more different back then but it was still swedish.

>>2756151
This is compounded by standardized spellings not being common at the time, so even in English spellings varied greatly.

>>2757014
Looking at this map makes me hate Turkey with a passion

>>2753274
>I have never hears scots nor have I ever heard the southern US dialect

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>>2757014
Torlakian and Kajkavian are 2 of the 4 variants of Serbo-Croatian.

It would be better to divide the Serbo-Croatian part of your map into Shtokavian and Chakavian to remain consistent.

>>2758591
Also I should add that this map is from the 16th century before the language standardization undertaken by the Yugoslav government after the first world war.

Chakavian is far less prevalent than indicated by the map while Torlakian is practically extinct.

>>2756127
>all the Russians were killed or expelled during the wars
Lol what. Russians left the country like they did in most other parts of the former Sovietunion

>>2756624
That's imply an union to any other established linguistic group.
>>2756654
>Source needed
>>2756674
Yes it is
>>2756711
English is mostly spoken outside England and people still call it English

>>2758591
>>2758608
The Chakavian part should be divided from Kajkavian in his map.

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>>2757014
"Scottish" should be "Scottish Gaelic"

And you've missed a tiny speck of Irish on the northeast coast

>>2752926
Occitan is a meme

>>2758969
http://www.langue-savoyarde.com/le-francoprovencal-nest-pas-larpitan

English comes from England.

Arpitan doesn't come from "Arpitanie" because there's no such thing, and it's just a nonsense word invented by some Spanish idiot in the 70s.

>>2760801
t. Paris

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>>2757066
>Burgundy is a completely different place which doesn't speak Francoprovençal at all.

That's true for late medieval and modern Burgundy, but early medieval Burgundy had a huge part of the Rhone valley where Francoprovençal is spoken.
But perhaps this connection is a bit forced anyway, so "Francoprovençal" is still the best term.

>>2752926
Is occitain actually a language or is it more of a dialect?

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>>2758680
No? Russians didn't leave the newly independent republics, there's still large Russian minorities in Kazakhstan, Estonia, Ukraine, and Chechnya isn't an independent republic, to begin with, it's a part of Russia. There were ethnic cleansings going on, it's estimated 20k ethnic Russians were killed by Chechens and another 200k had fled the republic before the war even started in 1994. All this is documented and stuff.

>>2753064
Balearic Islands speak catalan and they themselves admit it's the name of the language.
The valencians are just brainwashed by the politicians. The language was from there ffs. Even the EU and UN had to stop Spain from calling it valencian.

>>2752926
Greek is more or less extinct in turkey though.

>>2757075
Scanian is 100% intelligible for swedes
it's sort of true what >>2757133 says in that finno-swedish is harder to understand, but only because it uses an older type of swedish.

>>2757124
Now you're just being stupid.

>thinking northern isolate languages are inuit just cause they live in tee cold

>>2757050
do you speak german?

>>2761265
Thats not true. Russians left nearly all republics in the Caucasus and the former soviet republics in the Caucasus, Cetral Asia and East Europe.
>Ethnic cleansings
Not proven, no dead bodies, nothing. Even Russians that lived their never witnesses it.
>20k
Funny

>>2762417
> Not proven, no dead bodies, nothing. Even Russians that lived their never witnesses it.
Nice revisionism you've got here.

>>2761183
Yeah but nowadays everyone who says Burgundy means the Duchy and County of Burgundy, which is a very well defined area with a regional culture.

The trouble is the area where Francoprovençal is spoken never had any sort of conscious unity. It includes the Lyonnais, the Dauphiné, the Savoie, Romandie, and Aosta Valley. And nobody was even aware of the linguistic unity of the region until the 19th century, when linguists first started studying it (just as what they called Francoprovençal was in fact quickly disappearing). So there's no historical word for it.

>>2761246
It's a language, it's actually closer to Catalan than to French (or more precisely, Catalan is an offshoot of Occitan). It's just that nobody speaks it anymore.

>>2752926
Scottish is not a language

It's gaelic in the highlands and Scots in the lowlands