Daily reminder that proud Phoenician merchants and colonists

>>2748418

Not better at fighting.

*hires African mercenaries*

*sacrifices baby to Ba'al*

>>2748418
>barbarians
>latin
weird
all I hear is "barbarbar"

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Reminder that hannibal was in fact a black man

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>>2748584
>ruler of carthage

>>2748560
>2017
>still unironically believing L*tin propaganda

You have to go back.

>>>/rome/

>>2748560
He clearly should had sacrifice more.

*doesn't receive support from own government*
*loses battle with 4:1 numerical superiority*
>*runs away to the Seleucids*

>>2748614
>>2748560
This same person unironically would condemn Carthaginians but not give a shit about Roman Infanticide, the the modern Murder of the Unborn which dwarfs anything the Carthaginians did in the past.

>swear to destroy Rome
>make it stronger

good job

>>2748718
But didn't that lead to the the fall of the Republic by empowering individual generals and armies? So you could argue he helped move Rome along the path of no longer being a Republic which would've been almost like Rome not existing to the Romans of that time.

>>2748584
>Niggers
>Tactics
Shaka pls

>>2749320
semantics garbage their civilization was strengthened by the shift it would have died long before if the idiots in the Senate kept turning a blind eye to plebeian demands. The patron system inevitably led to people being more reliant on individuals than the state itself, if theres no stopping their turn to strong men, if not hannibal then someone else would have forced them into that reality eventually.

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>Hire Spartan general to protect you from the Romans.
>He does so.
>Have him killed.

Just another day in Cartago.

>>2749320
That had more to do with Garcchus, Mariu and Sulla setting "negative" precedents and fucking up mos maiorum for eternity.

>>2748674
*doesn't receive support from own government*
*crushes Romans anyway despite their numerical superiority*
*becomes an idiome*

>>2748605
Wasn't he elected to consul or something after the Second Punic War?

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>>2749548
Hail Hammon

>>2748418
Sardina would be a superpower now if Carthage had won, I'm so mad

>>2748418
>proud Phoenician

they sacrificed babies to their pagan god Baal

>>2750635
>>2749548

How was Carthage's council so unbelievably more incompetent to the Roman Senate? Seriously how do you manage to be worse than those guys?

>>2748418
Is it true that the Barcas were trying to create an independent state in Spain or just a dumb meme that have read somewhere?

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I really like Carthage because it was such a unique civilization.

>>2748614

Explain the mass graves filled with ritually murdered babies in Carthaginian territory.

Let's also not forget that for the most part Rome's allies and client states didn't abandon Rome for Carthage. Why wouldn't they if Carthage was indeed the more benevolent hegemon?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/why-carthage-failed-and-rome-succeeded./article/2004911

>>2751399
Cities in Italy were rebelling left and right, how can you be that oblivious to history?

>>2751409

Nearly all were Greek or Oscan, and therefore ethnically/culturally distinct from Romans

>>2751273
The senate was corrupt, but not incompetent. Them and Pompey almost defeated Ceasar. Rome also had far superior military minds who developed their tactics and technology at a far greater rate then Carthage.

>>2751477

Yeah, but literally all Carthage had to do was listen to Hannibal

>>2751378
Thats Roman Carthage

>>2751378
All I see is a salt flat.

>>2750731
fake news

>>2751483
Hannibal wasn't completely in the right. He was way too aggressive and started the second Punic war. Mainland Carthage was in the midst of an agricultural boom and they recovered from the first war very well. This is purely armchair historian obviously, and I'm just a random anon on a Calcutta origami board.

>>2751430
Many Latin city states sides with Carthage in the Second Punic war. The inter city state though ended up draining Hannibal because he chose to promote Capua and when they started losing, the city states were afraid to throw support with Carthage.