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BOOK & READING RECOMMENDATION THREAD

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title says it all.

Whats a interesting read about the Normans in Britain?
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>>2747755
this will help OP
https://pastebin.com/QBu2eM9r
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>>2747755
try >>>/lit/ OP unless there is a reason you wouldn't want Book & Reading advice from the literature board.
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>>2747755
Any good history books that got an audiobook? Been listening to some good stuff on my commute but I haven't found much in a few areas.
Particularly interested in:
France from the start of the 100 Years War to the start of the French Revolution.
Spain from Reconquista to Age of Discovery.
HRE anything after Fredrick II.
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>>2749007
i made a thread the other day about reading audiobooks and i tried to start to make one on my book on the mexican dicatator porfirio diaz. it's not related to your topic though kek.
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>>2748040
>unless there is a reason you wouldn't want Book & Reading advice from the literature board.
/lit/ is even more pseudo/his/ than /his/. Recc Reading threads are actually pretty common on /his/. You should lurk more.

>>2749007
Most well regarded academic books have an audio book and of course nearly every pop one does as well. Check Google Scholar for literature and then check amazon for audio.
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>>2747755
1066: year of the conquest
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>>2748040
because he is interested in history books, not general literature, and this is a history board?

would you go to /lit/ to ask for a book about cooking, photography or cars when you can go to the specific boards?
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>>2751052
Blah blah blah.
And how are you contributing? Shut your cunt mouth.
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>>2751073
>doesn't contribute and tells people to go elsewhere instead of the proper board
>complains that others refuting you are not contributing
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>>2751084
I didn't tell anyone to go anywhere, that was my first comment to this thread.
I just couldn't stay quiet when I saw such an annoying post.
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What's a good general introduction to the Byzantine empire?
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Can someone rec me a book about the Russian colonization of Alaska? Suddenly feeling very interested in that.
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>>2751230
norwich short history of byzantium
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Anything good on the Algerian War?
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I think I mostly read pop-history, but here are some of my favorites. Feel free to tell me if I'm a pleb or not.

All The Shah's Men
Seven Pillars of Wisdom
The Devil in the White City
Persian Fire
Diplomacy by Kissinger
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>>2747755
Does anyone have any recommendations for books on futurism, the art movement? Googling futurism books mostly brings up books about technology and such.

I found this book, but I don't know anything about it
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/832989.Futurism
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>>2747755
Why are you people still reading books in this day and age?
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>>2751148

>I just couldn't stay quiet when I saw such an annoying post.

You're pretty easily annoyed, anonymous, I can hardly imagine what other threads you can't help but reply to.
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>>2752181
Pls respond
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Just finished The Habsburg Monarchy 1809-1918 by AJP Taylor. Good book albeit a very thick and difficult read, very much focused almost entirely on the administrative and policy dimensions of the empire. Frustratingly little on foreign policy, cultural/intellectual developments, economic changes, nor the rise of nationalism - all despite heavily referencing them. Still got good insight into how the empire met its doom though, its intractable paradoxes in administration and reconciling ethnic tensions, how the start of WWI was its mortal wound, and how it weirdly contributed strongly to Yugoslavism.

>>2751230
John Julius Norwich's A Short History of Byzantium, which is essentially an abridged version of his three volumes on it. Personally I would just jump straight to the three volumes.
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>>2752857
Also fuck the Hungarians, they deserved every bit of Trianon.
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>>2752699
To expand our knowledge in niche subjects?
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>>2752699
Highest level of learning lad, everything else is a runner-up.
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i'll post a few pics 4u
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>>2752895
Have you read this book? If so what did you think about it?
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>>2752895

>>2752901
i have not. I wonder if a library would have it cause aeropittura is pretty cool imo. cheapest book i can find online is like 50 dollars otherwise...maybe we can split the price and one of us can scan it?
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>>2752945
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>>2752951
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>>2752968
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>>2752975
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>>2752945
I doubt any libraries in my country have it. Are you interested in futurism?
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>>2752995

>>2752983
Yes I'm interested in the movement definitely. I feel like it's very underrated in the anglo world compared to other modernist movements. I also happen to have these books because i'm in the process of making charts covering all aspects of italian fascist history, and futurist movement was a precursor and fellow traveler to fascism
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>>2753012
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>>2753012
Nice. Then you might like this video. It mentions futurism a little bit. It talks about Marianetti and the facist influence on this art show.

https://vimeo.com/126659029
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>>2751148
>>2751073
>>2748040
you sound like an unpleasant person
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>>2753045
thanks, that was a nice little video. i'm actually going to be near a library in like an hour so maybe i'll pic up some books on futurism and scan them
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>>2753110
Nice. I'll be waiting here.
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>>2753133
i got some books but i gotta scan em
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Anyone else have issues with reading historical books and only remembering 3 or 4 highlights out of the entire thing?

That's my only gripe with historical reads. They load you down with info and it's like cramming for a test
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>>2751047
agreed entirely. short too, which is convenient
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>>2752683
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>>2747755
Anybody else /hardcover/ here? I really, really hate paperback and always try and find a hardcover version if at all available. I'll spend that extra money, idgaf.
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>>2754418
>TFW Pre-ordering Landmark Caesar Commentaries in a glorious 1000 page hardcover

It does depend though. I kinda like the convienient price and portability of a paperback, but if I'm gonna get a huge book or a personally important one, I'd like a Hardcover. I kept all my hardcover Redwall novels from when I was a kid for a reason.
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>>2754502
>Redwall
Mah nigga.

But in actuality, I'm basically the same. If it's an important topic or a serious work, I'll always opt for HC, but if it's just a novelty that I have slight interest in, I'll just get a cheapo paperback.

I'm kind of nervous right now because I ordered a copy of Libido Dominandi, and there was literally only 1 hard cover copy available only on Amazon (ebay and B&N didn't have it) and it's in used condition which, according to Amazon, may include writing/notes and worn spine and such. Contacted the seller twice to ask for specifics, totally ignored, but I really wanted that damn book, so I just pulled the trigger and took a gamble here.

If there's writing inside, I really, really hope it's just pencil, because that I can erase. I'm going to be pissed if I shelled out $92 for a garbage book.
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>>2754140
No, that sounds like a pretty normal thing. Unless you devote yourself with time and meticulous focus and repeated study, your brain is only going to devote resources to remember the important/relevant parts at the time.

I'm pretty sure that it remembers other stuff but buries it and pulls it out only contextually when you're following a certain train of thought. That's at least how my brain works.
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>>2752832

a savage war of peace
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Could someone give me a quick rundown of this book
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>>2747755
Arthashastra By Kautilya/Chanakya
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>>2754113
What books did you get?
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>>2756417
hold up gimme a sec
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>>2758097
see if you can download this, futuristanon. It's only the first 50 pages scanned but i'll do the rest soon
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>>2758103
https://mega.nz/#!49oQjRpR!XwpzfhQ0m76R2ieDRJBbC7LzCOXRRfNmKaPLJTvgtd4
woops
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>>2747755
Anything on Hawaiian history?
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>>2751073
so salty
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where do you guys download epub/mobi books?
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>>2748040
Why pray to Calliope, when I have Clio?
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>>2754556
>>2754140
dont you take notes? what is the point of reading if you arent going to actually learn?
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>>2747755
I'm currently reading Culture and Imperialism by Edward Said.

It's both enlightening and outrageously retarded.
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>>2758472
>It's both enlightening and outrageously retarded.
give me a rundown why
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Currently working on The Landmark Herodotus. Surprisingly more readable than I imagined, especially the stuff on the Persian Empire. Everything about Egyptian history except for Amasis was a bit too dry for me. I've just gotten to the plot of Darius against the Magi.

Next I'll be reading "From Alexander to Actium" by Peter Green. I've only a scant knowledge of the Hellenistic world so this should be interesting. Then after that either Ronald Syme or Adrian Goldsworthy
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Seeking good historical texts on:

>Richelieu
>Louis XIV and absolutism
>French foreign policy during the Cold War (especially under de Gaulle)

Also, any one-volume French political history. I'm doing an exchange program in Paris this fall and want to get some foundation beforehand.
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>>2758103
Thank you so much for this.
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>>2758321
Vaka Moana
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>>2759060
np. i also got from the library "the futurist moment" and a book on the futurist artist "boccioni"

the last book i found a free download here so i won't scan it
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=B0BFD571C030A88C9F2ACD6A42BA2E2D
i've got a copy of >>2752960 from online which i've put here
https://mega.nz/#!JtBUDKDA!YAy-NeT7VtsgI2enNwm8nb6UGQkDEz0fuwskHLlgkSo
and >>2752968 here
https://mega.nz/#!Ix5xGaiC!HwJG68eqryqWEDc5ekVSeZzcIVJQlyqqDOjuVkn0JWI
futurism an anthology
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=0A04C837AFE7914FCE8B3FEDF28AC9E7
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>>2759218
by last book i meant i got from the library "modernism at the barricades" but i found a pdf free online
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>>2750997
>/lit/ is even more pseudo/his/ than /his/
but /lit/ talks about fiction as well
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here's a library of books i'm assembling
https://mega.nz/fm/c1AhCZqQ
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david h price weaponizing anthropology is really great
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>>2760084
what's it about
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>>2760140
Can't you guess by the name.
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>>2760642
i want to know what his argument is and what examples he uses and why or how we'd "weaponize" anthropology. does he mean making policy prescriptions?
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>>2758716
Landmark Herodotus is an excellent book. The Histories is one of my favorite books of all time. The Landmark Thucydides isn't nearly as good unless you are fascinated by the Peloponessian War.
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>>2747755
>>2759907
quoting OP's post so more anons can see my library
>>2759016
see the french history folder on my mega. adding more works
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>>2747755
Any good non-modernist perspectives on nationalism that aren't /pol/ tier? I've read Hobsbawn and some of Anderson but I don't necessary buy the idea that national identities are wholly modern inventions.
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>>2763969
Check my mega section on nationalism i have exactly books on that topic anon
>>2759907
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>>2764974

https://mega.nz/#F!sphnwJIC!mzAWxfgMab_CIsw47wt91w
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>>2764986
Thank you!
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Any warfare analysis?
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>>2766768
what do you mean by that?
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Boswell's Life of Johnson is top tier comfy.
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>>2759907
ok, in this link you can see it all finally
https://mega.nz/#F!o9BjCTrb!fT_8_xiavKWYz0xERhygDg
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>>2752181

Savage War of Peace
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>>2752256

All the Shah's Men is great. Not a lot of context but a great minute by minute account of the CIA coup in Iran
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A World Undone for WWI

Ghost Wars for the US in Afghanistan pre-9/11

What Good is Grand Strategy? For US Cold War policy.

The Fate of Africa for post-collapse Africa

The Cage for Sri Lanka and the Tamil Tigers
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>>2758370
mobilism
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Read it because an anon in an Africa thead reccomended it, probably one of the best books I've read in awhile.
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>>2769438

Seconded.
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post the size of your book collections in linear feet of shelf space (or meters if you're lame)

23.5
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>>2758472
Well, what did Edward say?
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would /his/ recommend "The New Cambridge Medieval History"? is it any good.
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>>2769539
comprehensive and easy to read, but the new cambridge history spans like 15 volumes with at least 700 pages each. it's better as a reference work i think, though i've seen anons here say that they've read all the volumes of the cambridge histories of japan
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Spanish Civil War recommendations please


Or should I say "porque"
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>>2769586
No, you should say "por favor" you retard.
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>>2769586
https://pastebin.com/WGqYYVGS
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>>2747755
>Jimenez - Caesar Against the Celts
>goes over Caesar's campaign's in Gaul and Britain, while both referencing The Gallic Wars by Caesar and fact-checking Caesar's book through other sources
>briefly goes over Caesar's early life and more thoroughly his post-ascension to being emperor
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>>2769586
>Or should I say "porque"
is this why, my french makes me think this is why
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>>2748040
How is somebody supposed to be interested in history and the humanities without reading?
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>>2747755
The Story of Civilization - An 11 Volume history of Global Civilization with justified emphasis on Europe.
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Rate my books. Any other recommendations? I'm interested in the Russian Revolution period, Henry VIII and Elizabeth I, maybe even the Spanish Empire, preferably contemporary books.
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>>2760671
It's not a hypothetical thing or a suggested application, he concerns himself with how anthropology is currently being applied in counterinsurgency by human terrain teams under the CIA, and seeks to trace back the history of anthropology's ethical struggle with being largely funded by government organisations seeking to subjugate a people. It's made me want to look into the same contextualisation as applied to economics but I haven't found a good book for it yet
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Anyone recommend any good books on Habsburg Austria or A-H?
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>>2770597
I'm >>2770235

I ordered The Habsburg Empire by Pieter Judson.

Also The Pursuit of Glory by Tim Blanning (pictured) talks about life in Europe in general but touches on A-H. The Sleepwalkers by Christopher Clark also touches on the A-H, particularly the events prior to WWI and some of the players within the A-H. One of my favorite parts of it was when it touches on the murders in Sarajevo and the Ultimatum to Serbia.
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>>2770597
https://mega.nz/#F!thQ0hD6K!INvb4RXjXVVHAV6eK4ccIg
>>2770747
pieter judson is in above link for free
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Anyone know of any good books about medieval economy and mercantile? already read "a history of business in medieval europe 1200-1550"
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>>2771676
"Splendid exchange" by William Bernstein is a great book to read if you're interested in trade and its impact on history.
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>>2752857
>Yugoslavism

It's called Illyrian movement and it's a far older idea. First Yugoslavia came from it but it was at that point pure opportunism from all sides involved, Serbia liberating the territories but installing its King and army, Croatian elite seeing an opportunity for (as it turns out, genocidal) independence in the future and lesser nations tagging along.
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>>2752995
got this in epub/mobi?
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>>2759907
fan-tastic work anon, shame about so many pdf-s but it's not your fault
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Good books about Mussolini and Stalin and their circumstances?
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good thread OP
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>>2768352
Amazing work, anon, thank you for your effort.
Btw, /his/, I remember a long forgotten thread in which some anon posted a link to his enormous cloud storage with books on history, languages, science etc. Do you guys remember this? Especially interested in languages. Got a link?
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>>2769746
>>2770021
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>>2772292
https://mega.nz/#!gkAQBIpa!meatOjGmXp7DJ5Ic3M7n5w6ImWrMxQJWMR69BncT0n8
only in pdf, sorry anon
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>>2769959
Thanks Anon!
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>>2770235

A World Undone is patrician tier but I'm afraid Blood Lands would trigger the fuck out of all the commies and /pol/tards on here by showing that both regimes were totally despicable
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>>2747755

Are there any packs out there with all the PDFs in?

I want to become an expert at a topic but i can't decide which. If there is a premade pack anywhere i'll use that (as long as it isn't WW1/2)
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>>2773945
Also interested
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>>2773945
pirate bay has a oxford very brief introduction torrent folder which has a bunch of topics (not all history), for example: introduction on medieval britain, international relations, citizenship, taxation, etc.
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>>2772323
The Fall of Mussolini by Morgan was pretty good.
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>>2773969

I want depth. The short/brief introductions series is great for short/brief introductions but that sort of thing is part of my problem. I read a fair amount of history but it tends to be scattered about.
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what should I read before getting into german idealism
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>>2774015
Hume's inquiry into human understanding. Since that was what woke Kant up from his slumber and inspired him to write the critique of pure reason.
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>>2773945
did you see my library here?
>>2768352
or do you mean to say you want something more extensive?

>>2772307
>>2772416
thank you friends
the /his/ archives have the Library of Alexandria threads stored in there. I'll post the major ones here:
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/2114200/
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/2134801/#2135263
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/2456323/#2456355
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/2583472/#2583472
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>>2769539

Yes, a lot of eminent historians like Abulafia have worked it on.

Great introduction to the Middle Ages.
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>>2751073
>>2748040


faggts
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>>2770448
>It's made me want to look into the same contextualisation as applied to economics but I haven't found a good book for it yet
you might like this
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What does /his/ thinks about Historical Novels?
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>>2775216
Like how do you mean? Historical fiction?
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>>2773992
I'd rather read about his coming to power and formative years, then rule
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>>2775216
They're outstanding when a great writer undertakes them. Prime examples, from what I gather your question is would be Devils of Loudun, Hell's Angels, Bleeding Edge.
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>>2770448
>how anthropology is currently being applied in counterinsurgency by human terrain teams under the CIA

lol

sure buddy

those 007 anthropologists roaming the sandnigger hovels sure make the difference
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>>2758716
Read Goldsworthy first lad. Makes it easier to read Symne, he likes to think you already got some knowledge.
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>>2754607
I fucking hate this board.
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>>2769438
Fuck, I was in between buying this and Africa's World War, and I picked the latter.
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>>2769494
Post a pic of your collection.
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>>2770235
>The Cold War: A New History
This book was captivating. I didn't think a book on history could hold my attention that well.

>The Tragedy of the Templars
This wasn't that amazing imo, but I still learned.
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>>2747755
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>>2776474
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>>2770235
9/10. I'm very close to finishing Battle Cry of Freedom myself and while it might be just a little dry it has to be one of the most masterful pieces of scholarship I've seen written in a single volume about such a massive and complex event.
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>>2775570
Why?
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What do you lads think of A Distant Mirror?

I bought it for 2 bucks on ebay, I haven't started reading it yet but I still feel pretty pleased with myself
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Bumpity bump
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>>2776475
WE WUZ CHANGS N SHIET
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I'm looking for books dealing with history as an academic discipline and taking somewhat cynical approach. By this I don't mean that I'm looking for relativization or outright acceptance of postmodernist approach, but instead finding cynicism when debating facts and fiction, 'character' motivations and inevitable yarn spinning. Threading the line between advocating solipsism and embracing the fluidity of factography. I am looking for a good book dealing with historiography, its mechanics if you will and theory of narrative as a consequence, if such work exists. I am interested in this because, if I were to become a historian I would most certainly find endless scouring of historical 'sources' pointless when trying to transmit the general picture. I am far more interested in debating how historiography works and various approaches to material build.
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I have this folder on my desktop where I store history books I might want to read
Pic related is a screenshot with a selection of a couple of those books (in no particular order) that I made to avoid shitting up the thread


Which of these books are good and which are shit?

With some of these I'm not quite sure when or why I saved them, "London" for example might very well be an image I saved just for the "please be london" meme
Some others are acclaimed/ well known but I still thought I should include them just in case someone here has an insightful thing to say about them, and buying a book because I heard it's name before doesn't seem too smart either. Is "The Making of the English Working Class" propaganda? Who can tell
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What you guys currently reading? I just started A Short History of Ancient Greece by P.J. Rhodes.
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>>2777260
In Defense of History desu.
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Is the Story of Civilization good?

I wanted to start with the Life of Greece.

I'll probably skip Ceasar and Christ because I listened to History of Rome and read Decline and Fall through Constantine and another survey seems repetitive but is Age of Faith good?

Also, for a recommendation, The Glory and the Dream, America from 1932-1972.

Absolutely fantastic.
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>>2778202
kys
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Still curious about this

>Are there any packs out there with all the PDFs in?

>I want to become an expert at a topic but i can't decide which. If there is a premade pack anywhere i'll use that (as long as it isn't WW1/2)

I've bookmarked the mega pack but a lot of the books look quite introductory,
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Recommendations on books for the English Civil War? or on Cromwell's Protectorate.
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>>2777831
Looks good enough
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>>2778610
I would be interested too

Pic related is something I've been wanting to check out, but I feel like I should read a thing on the English Civil War first
The author's name is REALLY funny
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>>2752256
I'm thinking of reading World Order (Kissinger), would you recommend it?
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>>2778680
>but I feel like I should read a thing on the English Civil War first
You don't need a background in the English revolution to understand the Luddites if that's what you mean
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>>2778716
Aren't they in some way relevant during the Civil War?

That would be neat to know about I think, but it's good to know that I don't need to
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What do you guys have to say about this book? I'm two-fifths through it.
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>>2777367
I think No god But God should be enjoyed with caution because of the author's bias, he has a pretty clear agenda to make Islam look as good as possible. That doesn't mean the book is shit but it's something to be aware of
There's a thread on /lit/ about another one of his books
The Formation of Islam by Berkey is a book on a similiar topic that's been recommended to me

Peter Brown is considered a top tier lad and scholar
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>>2778729
The Luddites were a movement from the early 19th century that broke machines to protest against their awful living standards during a general economic recession. This was over 150 years after the English Revolution.

I think what you're thinking of are the Diggers, Levellers, the Fifth Monarchists and all those other radical groups that coalesced during the Civil War, some of which preached radical equality and democracy long before those were popular ideas.
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>>2778799
>I think what you're thinking of are the Diggers, Levellers
That's exactly who I was thinking of, I was confused and you are right.

Thanks for clearing that up, maybe I should go look at a book about those movements as well
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>>2747755
If i want advice on books about philosophy would i go to /his/ or /lit/ ?
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>>2778773
Thanks for your sage advice anon!

I have also heard good things about Brown, but that book is a bit expensive so I thought making sure would be the smart thing to do
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>>2778858
If you actually want to get into philosophy you start at the beginning (the Greeks) and continue on from there

You could probably ask on both boards but don't make the same retard thread on /lit/ for the millionth time
>What is philosophy where 2 start I bought some books by Nietzsche???
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>>2778868
>>2778868
Well i know to start with Plato and Socrates, then Aristotle who properly updated their shitty views, but i'm more talking about actual good books one should read to learn about these things, not about what to learn.
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>>2778811
gimme a sec, i'll put books in the mega link. look in the "stuart britain category"
>>2759907

>>2778610
I'll put a few books of these topics too
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>>2778881
>Well i know to start with Plato and Socrates, then Aristotle who properly updated their shitty views
No, you absolutely don't know shit.

How much about the myths do you know?
You done read the Iliad/ Odyssey aka the Bible for the ancient Greeks yet?
Sort of familiar with Greek history in broad strokes?

Then you go read the Pre-Socratics, they are a bit goofy but fun to read and they are the starting point of the whole thing, only fragments survive so it's not like you will have to read a lot either
Oxford Classics has a book on them and Kirk/Raven/Schofield is also considered very good
Then Plato because Socrates never fucking wrote anything as you very well should know, he is used as a character in Plato's writing

Reading something about Plato instead of actual Plato is just about the dumbest thing you could do, right after searching Google for works by Socrates
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>>2778884
Thanks famalam
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>>2778937
[sweating intensifies]

I just thought that i might not be literate enough to tackle most philosophers actual writings yet
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I'm about to read Yugoslavia: Death of a Nation. Is it pretty straightforward and objective or is it biased towards the Bosniaks as I have read? If it's the latter, any recommendations for an alternative?
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>>2779051
Don't sweat it, it's very fun and not challenging beyond what you could reasonably be expected to comprehend
Lots of editions have "What did he mean by this?" notations or interpretations at the end

Plato isn't as dry as you are probably expecting either, it's entertaining to read about Socrates shooting the shit with his lads

I do think you should go into it with some sort of foundation though, so you can put the philosophers in a historical context (e.g. Socrates fought in war, there are things going on with Greece), have some understanding of their cultural background and know, for example, what Plato means when he talks about the polis and what that might mean to Greeks back then
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>>2777367
Yeah, I also wanted to say that No god but God may not be super amazing. If you read, make sure you realize that it is a very modernist, liberal interpretation of Islam. I'm not sure how many religious scholars in the Muslim world actually agree with that book.
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>>2779090
It's the only book I've read on the Yugoslav wars. But yeah, it seemed like it was a bit biased towards the Bosnians. I'm not sure if this was because of bias though, it could've just been because of the actual events that took place. The book may have judged the Serbians harshly, but I'm fairly certain everyone who doesn't live in Serbia and Russia judged them that way too.

But it was still pretty captivating.

I don't think it catches you up to the modern day situation in the Balkans though.
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>>2779360
Thank you too!

It's too bad, he did pick a really good title if nothing else
I'm sure there is a wide breadth of scholarship on Islam that I can replace that book with, I think I will try and find something good that is focused on the historical origins
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>>2778583
>>Are there any packs out there with all the PDFs in?
oh you mean you want a zip file of all the books i have in mega? I'm pretty sure i can you can DL it all or by each section
>I want to become an expert at a topic but i can't decide which.
well it's hard for me to upload more difficult works for you if you don't know what you want kek. Anyway, the French History and Polish Lithuanian sections are pretty thorough; I've downloaded all possible books and articles I can find on the subject that are influential in the field.
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Someone know of any books, preferably self bibliography, from world war 1/2 (pref. german) or from modern special forces?
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>>2777212
>not WE WUZ QINGS
Come on, man!
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I'm looking to read something on Colonization. Mostly about colonization of Africa, but also Asian and Oceanic areas too.
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Any books like Horse, the Wheel, and Language? Loved that one
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>>2779833
The Devil's Handwriting by George Steinmetz covers German colonialism in all three areas.
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>>2779395
I haven't read anything about Islam, but I have seen pic related posted on here. So maybe there's some good suggestions on that list.

There's supposedly some good Islamic philosophy out there that was influenced by and influenced Christian philosophy.
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>>2779851
Looked it up. It looks good, but I might have trouble getting a copy of it for a reasonable price.

Is the book biased?
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>>2779855
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>>2778731
Kissinger was a major cunt so I've heard.
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>>2779516
Storm of Steel by Ernst Jünger for WW1
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I wish to learn more about Greek city states, particularly Syracuse. Any good books on this? Last recommendation thread I was in died when I made a post. Am I cursed?
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>>2779833
Achebe's stuff is fiction, but rather good.
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>>2779872
>Is the book biased?
I didn't think so. All it does is cover how Germans treated their subjects based on pre-conceived notions of them and how it changed over time. Honestly, the best book on German colonialism overall is The German Colonial Experience by Knoll & Hiery, but if The Devil's Handwriting is out of your price range than The German Colonial Experience is way out of your price range. Give me a moment to peruse my bookshelf to see if there's something a bit cheaper for you. German colonialism is my specialty desu. Anything, in particular, you're interested in or just what you listed?
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What are best three books about Nazis?
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>>2779872
>>2780325
Okay so out of the cheaper ones on my bookshelf that are very broad you have your options of Magic Lantern Empire, German Colonialism in a Global Age, and German Colonialism: A Short History. All of them are very broad works with German Colonialism: A Short History being the broadest and honestly, like a g-string, it didn't cover much. However, it is a good starting point. I'd say Magic Lantern Empire and German Colonialism in a Global Age are the next step as they get into how Germany affected it's colonies and vice versa.

For more niche books, Vilimani by Thaddeus Sunseri goes into great detail on German colonialism in Tanganyika. Emancipation without Abolition also goes into detail on German East Africa, but is primarily centered around the slave trade in the colony and its slow abolition without actually abolishing slavery in the colony. The Kaiser's Holocaust goes into detail about the Herero and Namaqua genocides. Strachan's The First World War in Africa does what it says on the tin, but most importantly it goes into painstaking detail into how Germany shaped their military strategy around the colonies.

I have more books to recc, but they're all $80+.
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>>2780394
I'm not the other Anon, but please recc all you can

It's rare to encounter someone who is very well read in a specific subject like that and I would love it if you could share some of your insights concerning the scholarship surrounding German
collonialism with us

Have you considered making an infographic or something of the sort?
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>>2779516
This one
>>2779979
and One Soldier's War in Chechnya by Babchenko which is deeply disturbing. It's a good juxtaposition because Junger is a sociopath drilled by Prussian society while Babchenko is mortified by hellish landscape he is thrown in against his will.
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>>2780325
What was German colonialism in comparison to British colonialism?
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>>2780062
Are you talking about Chinua Achebe? (He's the first guy who comes up on google search)

>>2780394
>Magic Lantern Empire
>German Colonialism in a Global Age
These two are offered at my university's library so I'll definitely check them out. Thanks for the recs.
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>>2780394
>I have more books to recc, but they're all $80+.
go to library and scan for us. you'll be a hero
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>>2780379
richard evan's trilogy :^)
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>>2780634
>Are you talking about Chinua Achebe? (He's the first guy who comes up on google search)
Yup.

never forget biafra
igbo did nothing wrong
literally perfidious albion in action
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>>2776461
>>2776463
good taste, anon
>>2776465
not sure if I like this synthesis. It's just so fucking massive I wish he'd made it into 3 books
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>>2776474
this plus women in purple.
It's pure gold you can throw to every feminist bitch to her face
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>>2779890
great diplomat nonetheless
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>>2780028
Jeremy Dummet has a book on Syracuse. Not particularly excellent but well written.
Other than that definitely Thukydides, Livius and Herodotos.
Oh and http://www.livius.org/articles/place/syracuse/?
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>>2780628
This image will detail all the different styles of colonization and clear up any questions you might have had

From top to bottom (and left to right):
>German
>British
>French
>Belgian

The captions below the images just say "That's how the German colonizes" and so on.
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>>2779855
Thanks Anon, I'll use that image as a starting point
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>>2780557

>and One Soldier's War in Chechnya by Babchenko which is deeply disturbing. It's a good juxtaposition because Junger is a sociopath drilled by Prussian society while Babchenko is mortified by hellish landscape he is thrown in against his will.

I second this recommendation. His experiences of the dedovshchina in the Russian Army are fascinating.
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Recommend me some good books about asian history.
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>>2780028
As an undergrad I read a great book about the Greek city states of Italy. I'll see if I can find it magna graecanon.
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>>2758370

libgen
bibliotik if you have an invite
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>>2777105

Just started reading it last week. It's p comfy.
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>>2782802
something on tibet in particular?
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>>2780542
Well, as I noted earlier, The German Colonial Experience is by far the best book on the subject, but it's $80+ dollars for a paperback. Germany in Central America is a VERY interesting book on Prussian meddling in Central America that 99.9% of people never knew about. I mean Guatemala VOLUNTEERED to become a Prussian colony in the 1860's but France and Britain put the kibosh on it. Last I saw it was $120 for a paperback. Globalization and the Nation in Imperial Germany is a really in-depth look at how Germany's colonies affected it internally. It was about $50 iirc, but I got it when it received its first English publication. Another cheapy worth reading is German Colonialism: Past, Present, and Future by Dr. Heinrich Schnee, former colonial governor of German East Africa. It IS an apologist piece (quite literally written so the League of Nations would give Germany their colonies back), but it is a very important look at how the Germans saw themselves during and after colonialism. Perhaps one of these days I'll draw up an infographic, but I'm not very well schooled on Germany's possessions outside of Africa (Qingdao and Samoa). My personal specialty is German East Africa, the Maji Maji Rebellion in particular.

>>2780628
Hard to answer desu. Not just because the two were so different, but Germany's colonies varied wildly between themselves. Germany had no real set colonial policy and little to no input on them until 1907 and even after that point the RkA really didn't interfere in the colonies internal affairs. German South-West Africa was extremely brutal. German East Africa had so much internal conflict that the colony didn't get a set policy for itself going until 1907. Togoland was one of the few colonies of any country that was actually self-sufficient. Kamerun was closer to a giant military base than a colony.

>>2780748
Just get the books through ILL. It's free.

>>2782152
That cartoon is satire btw.
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>>2783620
>That cartoon is satire
I don't think so

Seems serious to me
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I'm currently reading "Inventing History," a book about the history of the Anglos. It's a good introduction but probably too broad if you're a history guy.
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>>2783640
It's from Simplicissimus and is mocking the official government response to the various 1907 scandals.
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Any recommendations for general books on the exploration/colonization of the Americas? An overview of all the involved nations is prefer, if there isn't a good one then just England or Spain is fine.
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>>2747755

Looking for Books on the following:

Otto Von Bismarck

About pre-Roman Iberia

The Crusades.

Getting "biased" books is what I fear the most, especially ones concerning the Crusades.
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>>2783712
J.H. Elliott- Empires of the Atlantic World: Britain and Spain in America 1492-1830
https://mega.nz/#!shhhQCIJ!S-3ht47tjJ0CgvDa-uOTgQYMJZ4i3XT7a4kjroAWAwU
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>>2783728
>Otto Von Bismarck
Christopher Clark's book is probably the most recent.
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>>2783728
>>2783731
er sorry, Steinberg's book. I just got done reading Clark's review of it.
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>>2783690
You are double wrong because
a) it's straight faced serious talk for grown ups
b) it's from 1904

>>2783734
(((Steinberg)))
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>>2783743
My bad, I did get the year wrong. I didn't get the magazine wrong, however, and Simplicissimus is a satire magazine. It's not serious at all.
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>>2783743
unless you're not a troll, click the link below please
>>>/pol/
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>>2783764
unless youre trolling*
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>>2783585
It can be anything to be honest as long as it's about asian history may it be general or specific country or period.
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>>2783728

I am almost done with Runciman's books on the Crusades. There is some bias in them, but I would recommend them anyway as a starting point. They are classics.
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>>2784013
What kind of bias?
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>>2784013

>>2783734


Much obliged.

I'll give Runciman a chance given that it says he was a friend to Orwell.

Still, I wish I'd find out some more books about the Crusades.

I didn't knew that they were an answer to Muslim incursion into Europe until 2 years ago.

They only told us about the retalition, but never about the reason.

That's why I am so bloody paranoid about this shit.
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>>2783953
check
>>2759907
the chinese history section and a new asian section which i'm adding books to at this moment
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Bimp
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>>2784178
https://mega.nz/#F!c4xTybKC!2jXrMTiDuNtHhuhyG4tYDg
I'm making a folder on crusades books for you including primary source stuff
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Any good introductions/overviews on Ancient Egypt. I was looking at getting Joann Fletcher's Story Of Egypt or John Romer's A History Of Ancient Egypt (I've enjoyed the BBC documentaries by both of them). Are there any other books that I should also look into?
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>>2747755
Are there even books that try to talk about Roman Britain?
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To all the people in this thread asking about Kissinger: as an IR major I cannot recommend him enough

World Order is more your typical history text, where he explores the evolution of the International System and ideas like the Balance of Power all the way from Renaissance Europe up to today.

Diplomacy is more focused on balance of power/realist theory than straight up history, but still has a lot of historical insights from Kissinger's tenure.

If anyone has any questions about IR books in general, feel free to ask
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Whats /his/ thoughts on Peter Wilson, Europe's Tragedy?

I'm slightly disappointed. I'm interested in civil-military relations and he makes a lot of generalizations and often fails to provide examples for his way of thinking. Not that he's often completely off-base, but he fails to introduce evidence for his arguments.
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>>2786668
What the fuck do you expect from an Anglo?
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>>2784178
>I didn't knew that they were an answer to Muslim incursion into Europe until 2 years ago.
Some of them were but some were against Pagans or even ended up killing other Christians. The bias on this subject is so fucking cancerous, from both sides.
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>>2786671
but then the Anglos tell me not to read Gunther Franz because his work is just nazi propaganda
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Has Gibbon been surpassed for Rome or should I start there?
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>>2786678
Gibbon is still good, but today is largely considered as quite biased against the later Roman empire in much the same way Tacitus was, focusing more on its perceived degeneracy than being as objective as would be best.
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>>2786678
I've been told here that he's good but severely outdated.

Maybe read a commented edition that points out where new research has shown him to be wrong.

>>2786620
Which IR school do you follow?
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Whoever controls the MEGA pack, can you separate Ottoman/Turk books from Middle east.

Also this is a fantastic 6 vol series on central asia by UNESCO.

https://mega.nz/#!ElNFBKCK!sQK5X8_Zz3TxetayXqgFRnofSTs1LVaQ6OEsu5GkOEA
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>>2786526
there's oxford very brief introduction on roman britain. you can start from there
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>>2781710
how come?
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>>2759907
>c1AhCZqQ
I'm not able to access this link. It directs me to my own Mega page. Anyone know why?
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>>2786620
nice
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>>2772286
illyrianism =/= yugoslavism, though they are similar. the illyrian movement wanted a home within the habsburg monarchy, the yugoslav movement was exiting that monarchy and joining with the serbs. like you said though, there wasn't a ton of enthusiasm for joining with the serbs outside of croat elites until they had absolutely no choice but to do so.
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>>2783585
7 years in Tibet is a meme movie but an awesome book. Not so much history, more about day-to-day life in Tibet. By that german guy.
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>>2787237
sorry i meant to link another post with this link
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>>2786764
>can you separate Ottoman/Turk books from Middle east.
will do. the ottomans and modern turks are important to middle eastern history though, so i think i'll make a sub folder
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>>2770235
I'd recommend Blood Lands to everyone here, if for no other reason than to get an idea of just how incredibly terrible the communist were, and to get an idea of how much the leftists of the west lied about them. It's despicable that communists aren't treated at least as badly as Nazis are.
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Any suggestions for ancient Greeks handling foreign relations?
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>>2788951
Herodotus :^)
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>>2777105
I read a few chapters (from library), but then had to return it. Had a lot of uni shit going on at the time, and that was some years ago now.

I like it, I should track a copy down again.

I've read on similar threads before that a couple anons don't like it. I don't understand why though.
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>>2783758
No, it is most definitely real serious business. We all know that Belgians literally ate spit-roasted Congolese heads for dinner, and that Germans were able to get giraffes to goose-step in formation.

You can't fool us Nigel, we know serious stuff when we see it.
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>>2788996
>reading philobarbaros
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>>2788845
>and to get an idea of how much the leftists of the west lied about them.
you're assuming here that all leftists purposely lied to cover up the Soviet Union's crimes, which is not fair. a lot of people on the left saw stalin for what he was, but many more chose to disbelieve what they heard about the soviets as hearsay or slander meant to tarnish their movement.
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I'm a pretty big Antiquityboo, specifically Greece and Rome. What are some must-read books on the two subjects? Be they fictional or factual historic stuff.
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>>2789109
ave cesar

fiction has no place on this board and you shouldn't call yourself an "Antiquityboo, specifically Greece and Rome" if you don't know the answer to your question

you probably haven't even read the primary sources, shitter
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>>2789112
>Being such an autistic thundercunt

Oh fuck off and just recommend some literature.
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>>2779888
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>>2789156
Mary Beard's SPQR is good for beginners although it only skims over the post-republic age
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Any books on the successor kingdoms to Alexander?
By this i mean individual books on Egypt, Seleucid Empire, Macedonia etc. I don't want a 400 page book that ''covers'' each of these
Also, any good books on Pyrrhus?
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>>2791854
you'll find those in here
https://pastebin.com/JQKwB1GT
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>>2791912
thank
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Going a bit further back, does anyone know any good books on prehistoric Europe, or more specifically Britain?
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>>2789112
>you shouldn't call yourself an "Antiquityboo, specifically Greece and Rome" if you don't know the answer to your question
Being a weeaboo is defined as being someone who has a strong interest in Japan and thinks that Japanese culture is superior to his culture while only having a shallow understanding of Japan and its culture.

A [topic]boo doesn't need to actually have extensive knowledge to call himself that. The interest and attitude of inferiority towards [topic] is enough. In recent times, the latter has also become rarer.
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>>2786668
>Wilson
>>2786671


is there any difference between Peter Wilson's

"Europe's Tragedy: a New History of the Thirty Years War"

and

"The Thirty Years War: Europe's Tragedy"

As I've said, both are from the exact same author, but the latter was published more recently according to amazon.
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>>2792784
Then it's obviously a revision... Historians don't generally release a single edition of their most significant releases as they tend to be constantly researching it and thus implementing said new knowledge.
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>>2792543
Darvill Prehistoric Britain if your looking for something more scholarly. Oliver - A History of Ancient Britain if you want something more 'pop'-history.
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>>2793194
Cheers, I'll check out the Darvill one.
I almost bought Oliver's book when I was looking for something to give me the oversight, but opted for 'Home' by Francis Pryor (a friend recommended it). Half of it seems to be the ramblings of an OAP, talking about his wife and stuff lol
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Reccomend me a book about how Yakub created wite people?
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>>2794281
Here you go
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>>2794316
thanks brother
As-Salaam-Alaikum
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>>2794281
A. James Gregor's book "The Search of NeoFascism" actually has two chapters dedicated to black nationalism in america and the wacky ideologies that underlie it. You can read the chapters independently of the other discussions in the book without missing anything.
free dl
https://mega.nz/#!1oYHnbwL!HhsFa53nhkVPz1X5Pz9ZiEJJdu_8bqF2FnxmczlQO7M

pic related is a page from it
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>>2794651
black supremacism* i mean
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>>2770235
nice picks anon, are you looking forward to the second volume of kotkin's stalin?
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>>2796795
Not him, I take you would recommend the first volume?
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>>2770235
lol I've read half of those, because I got them as a rec from here or from /lit/. Are we just 5 dweebs in here recommending the same stuff over and over again?

Not complaining cause they were great reads, just saying...
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