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What did he mean by this? Did he foreshadow what happened in Holodomor and the Gulags? This quote was said in 1856
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afaik holocaust wasn't used to denote a genocide until the Holocaust.

Sounds like a fake quote.
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>>2745230
The first quote is from Marx, the second is partially Engels.
Marx
>Society is undergoing a silent revolution, which must be submitted to, and which takes no more notice of the human existences it breaks down than an earthquake regards the houses it subverts. The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way. But can there be anything more puerile, more short-sighted, than the views of those Economists who believe in all earnest that this woeful transitory state means nothing but adapting society to the acquisitive propensities of capitalists, both landlords and money-lords? In Great Britain the working of that process is most transparent. The application of modern science to production clears the land of its inhabitants, but it concentrates people in manufacturing towns.
Engels
>How did this division of the nations come about, what was its basis?
>The division is in accordance with all the previous history of the nationalities in question. It is the beginning of the decision on the life or death of all these nations, large and small.
>All the earlier history of Austria up to the present day is proof of this and 1848 confirmed it. Among all the large and small nations of Austria, only three standard-bearers of progress took an active part in history, and still retain their vitality — the Germans, the Poles and the Magyars. Hence they are now revolutionary.
>All the other large and small nationalities and peoples are destined to perish before long in the revolutionary world storm. For that reason they are now counter-revolutionary
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>>2745230
Somehow it is acceptable today to like communism and many idiots and teenagers do it.

But what they don't realize that communism in it's conception was fucking hardcore. They actively advocated to annihilate the exploiter classes from the face of the earth and everyone who serves them. No compromises.

It is ridiculous that only Nazism gets criticized when communism and Islam are just as murderous, if not even more.
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>>2747040
saying 'communism' as if it means a single thing is retarded. there were many forms of communism, and one can appreciate the theoretical without condoning its failed applications
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>>2747076
>one can appreciate the theoretical without condoning its failed applications
how many self-proclaimed communists actually believe in a non murderous theoretical view?
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>>2747076
The ideology of communism is pretty fucking simple. At least the real communism, not the soft hippie version kids love today.

As long as there are classes there WILL be exploiters. It is a law of nature. You can't argue with them. You can't expect anything from them. What can a sheep expect from a wolf? You can only exterminate them. They are not exploiting because they are evil. They are exploiting because they are a different class and as well might be a different species.

Communism is VERY straight forward about this. Before the Nazis became a thing the commies were the murderous, bloodthirsty thugs who wanted to rob and kill everyone.
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He was full retard evolutionist so obviously gommunism was about pruning untermensch until only final form peoples remain to accept gommunism
>>2745306
holocaust denotes a whole burnt offering, any dictionary older than you can corroborate.
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>>2745230
fake, debunked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH4p-JbXi6k
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Nationalities perishing as Marx/Engels see it doesn't mean the people who made them up literally all die, but that the concept of nation is to be abolished.
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>>2747040
>Killing your opressors is bad
You sound like a liberal
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>>2748990
kek that's wrong read the original article by Engels

he literally talks about entire ethnicities being inherently reactionary during the revolutions of 1848 and uncivilized and talks about how they all must cleansed
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>>2749003

>Hey man I built a factory, want to work in it? I'll pay you money.
>Sure, thanks for the job.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Oppression"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>fake quotes for propaganda reasons
The first one is a description of capitalism, not of communism, while the second is a dubious translation from something engels, not marx, said. And the second is in no way a continuation of the first.

Stormfags are disgusting fucking creatures. I've found online entire texts changed to miscommunicate the intentions of their authors. Neonazis truly don't give a fuck about lying and spreading false information all day as long as it furthers their ideology, they are the most intellectually dishonest group of people online. Unironically kill yourselves.
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>>2749017

>the nationalities which fought for independence in 1848 still play a vital role in history
>the ones who didn't are destined to perish

Clearly he meant genocide advocacy, which is found nowhere else in Marxian thought; there's no reason to parse those words as referring to their inevitable assimilation, right?
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Now I share neither in the opinions of Ricardo, who regards ‘Net-Revenue’ as the Moloch to whom entire populations must be sacrificed, without even so much as complaint, nor in the opinion of Sismondi, who, in his hypochondriacal philanthropy, would forcibly retain the superannuated methods of agriculture and proscribe science from industry, as Plato expelled poets from his Republic. Society is undergoing a silent revolution, which must be submitted to, and which takes no more notice of the human existences it breaks down than an earthquake regards the houses it subverts. The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way. But can there be anything more puerile, more short-sighted, than the views of those Economists who believe in all earnest that this woeful transitory state means nothing but adapting society to the acquisitive propensities of capitalists, both landlords and money-lords? In Great Britain the working of that process is most transparent. The application of modern science to production clears the land of its inhabitants, but it concentrates people in manufacturing towns.

“No manufacturing workmen,” says The Economist, “have been assisted by the Emigration Commissioners, except a few Spitalfields and Paisley hand-loom weavers, and few or none are emigrated at their own expense.”

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1853/03/04.htm

WTF MARX WAS A NAZI?!
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>>2749080
>he thinks the factory owner built the factory
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