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What went wrong?
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It left before my time :'(
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What didn't?
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>>2734249
Capitalist roaders
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>>2734249
Tried to jump start communism and compete with capitalism even though even Karl Marx knew it wouldnt work like that.
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economy dependent on oil exports and unable to feed it self solely from domestic production.

Imperial Russia was a grain exporting super power. Communism, especially Stalin's collectivization and emphasis on a mostly urban population, caused grain production to bottom out. Grain production didn't reach pre communism levels until Putin.

They redirected the Aral Sea feeder rivers to irrigate fields to make cotton. killing fishing so they could export cotton.

The oil crisis of the 70s made prices skyrocket. which put the soviet union at their most powerful. they spent and spent. Then in the late 80s oil prices fell because of the Oil Glut. The glut was partially caused by President Carter deregulation of domestic oil prices. Which lead to a huge increase in domestic production.

The Soviets were no longer able to make money from oil to buy grain and feed themselves. Which is why you saw the return of bread lines in the late 80s.
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>>2734326
Basically the lesson is no matter how tempting it is dont become a banana republic.
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>>2734249
Everything, oy gevalt what a mess.
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>>2734249
Many things went horribly wrong but it was superior to both the Russian Empire and the Russian Federation.
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pretty much everything

>Vikings
>Mongols
>Despots
>nobles
>peasants
>ethnics
>Imperialism
>Communism
>Capitalism
>Nationalism

you name it, it probably fucked over russia
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>>2734349
you can see it happening again in Venezuela.

Though other Warsaw Pact nations had less problems with feeding themselves. Poland especially, as they actually allowed the farmers to own the land and consult the Bureaucrats running government agriculture.
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White people were in charge.
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>>2734326
>President Carter deregulation of domestic oil prices

Wait, what? Carter actually did something right?
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>>2734474
Carter did a lot right.

Iran, nuclear moratorium, and his crisis of confidence speech were his only screw ups.

two of them made him look weak and played into who ever was behind Reagan.

the other killed the USA's transition to nuclear power. which still gives the democrats fuel for elections.
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>>2734406
>in charge
>when a bunch of jews, and georgian were running it
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>>2734398

Nonsense. People in South America are corrupt. So it doesn't matter if its left wing or right wing in charge. They always fuck things up.
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>>2734249
the socialist part
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>>2734249
Communism.
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>union of soviet SOCIALIST republics

It's right there in the name.
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The second letter in its acronym.
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>>2734774
That's true, but communism and socialism will always cause more problems because they're so inherently flawed. There's a big difference between being generally shitty and corrupt, and mass starvation.
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Ahh seeing a lot of the old "muh breadlines" meme. Read a book please
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>>2734249
Jews.
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>>2735011
Are you saying breadlines weren't a thing, or that the USSR has even worse problems, or what?
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>>2735054
He's saying the entire Soviet Union's duration wasn't the same as the Lenin and Stalin era.
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>>2734249
It was a poorly disguised Russian Empire that showed no regard for its own people.
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>>2734326
This. The inherently inefficient economic system coupled with overreliance on oil exports for even basic stuff like grain made political dominance over the Eastern Block and eventually other the national republics unsustainable. USSR leadership decided to peacefully dismantle the system instead of using the only trump card they had - huge army - to stay in control and they should be given credit for it.
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>>2735011
>r-read a book!
Oh SHID, btfo
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>>2734249
They kicked the Tsar out
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>>2734958
Like that other poster said, they'll always fuck things up when given the chance. In a planned economy you can control lots of aspects of the economy you can't in a market economy. This also means you have more opportunities to fuck things up. So it's no wonder controlled economies crash and burn so easily.
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>>2734520
>Iran, nuclear moratorium, and his crisis of confidence speech were his only screw ups
His foreign policy, in general, was a walking disaster. Argentinian-Soviet relations come to mind.
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