How did communism manage to so successfully castrate most of

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>>2732100
(You)

>>2732100
Atheism.

cultural nullification. They suppressed culture and religion so the only thing people had to do was work and sleep.

>>2732100
Because they were already drunk squatting slavs before gommienism

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>>2732100
Massive, abrupt and total industrial alienation.

>>2732100
They gave us Red Army Choir and Sergei Prokofiev. Think again.

>>2732340
Hell, I think most Eastern Europeans look upon the communist days as a time of relative cultural sophistication compared to modern Americanized media. They might enjoy the boob tube more on an animal level but they regard the black and white classics as more important, wholesome, and "theirs."

>>2732368
I think Americans do too idealize the old times.

Stalin killed nearly all of the intellectual and religious leaders of the "old russia" + deliberately destroying historical texts and architecture.

The only culture that was okay to publish was the one the state gave the thumbs up to. Same thing woulda happened in Nazi germany

>>2732100
Before communism most of them were depressed illiterate squatting peasants. Mass culture is a relatively new thing, your average Russian didn't read Dostoevsky or Pushkin.

>In 1897, the overall literacy rate of the Russian Empire was an estimated 24%, with the rural literacy rate at 19.7%.[1]

>>2732393
Thats true of curse but there was a vibrant intelectual life in the metropolitan regions like petersburg

>>2732379
Sure, but back in the 70s or 80s communist countries were still very conservative and more focused on classical and "high culture" or idyllic folk stuff, while the West was enjoying and already being nostalgic about pop and rock.

>>2732100
>How did communism manage to so successfully castrate most of eastern european culture
secret police. Psychological terrorism and induced paranoia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securitate

>>2732100
By purging

>the aristocracy
>the intelligentsia
>the clergy

Literally killing off the pillars of culture and tradition, leaving only bydlos and jew modernists. Then they hoarded all the peasants to the cities and murdered hundreds of years of rural Russian culture, Russians as a national and cultural group literally don't exist anymore, it's just deracinated, urban bydlos who are LARPing as the real Russians.

>>2732393
Is mass literacy really something desirable?

>>2732416
Yes? Unless you want a dumb and brainwashed population.

>>2732416
go to bed pol pot

I think that this "Gopnik Culture" is not really a product of the soviet union but of the Jelzin Era and the complete Chaos after the fall of the soviet union

>>2732418
You get a dumb population regardless of literacy, today 99% of people are literate and utilize their literacy by shitposting about Kylie Jenner on twitter. Being literate won't magically make you cultured, sophisticated or smart, it will just give you the option to shout your retardation to the world.

>>2732431
It does give you a better chance at improving yourself though and that is what's important.

>>2732431
But being literate gives you at least the opportunity to educate yourself

>>2732321
Dystopian/10.

>>2732408
Since Stalin communists have been more conservative than democratic countries.

>Khrushchev on Modern Art

>N. S. Khrushchev: “You’re a nice-looking lad, but how could you paint something like this? We should take down your pants and set you down in a clump of nettles until you understand your mistakes. You should be ashamed. Are you a pederast or a normal man? Do you want to go abroad? Go on, then; we’ll take you free as far as the border. Live out there in the ‘free world.’ Study in the school of capitalism, and then you’ll know what’s what. But we aren’t going to spend a kopeck on this dog shit. We have the right to send you out to cut trees until you’ve paid back the money the state has spent on you. The people and government have taken a lot of trouble with you, and you pay them back with this shit. They say you like to associate with foreigners. A lot of them are our enemies, don’t forget.

>>2732100
yes

>>2732450
Modern art was invented by the CIA and capitalists anyway.

>>2732340
Prokofiev was a composer and pianist before the revolution, passed a significant portion of his life outside Russia and when he returned, he was denounced as a decadent bourgeois formalist by soviet authorities and his wife arrested for "espionage". Hardly a product of the proletarian revolution.

>>2732450
Can't argue with him on this one.

>>2732458
One part, sure. But another more distructive part is by Western Marxists. They know that modern art is destructive nihilistic garbage. So they only produce this shit in capitalist countries. But as soon as they become communists, they instantly turn to more classical form. See the whole modernist movement in Russia and Brecht in Germany.

>>2732431
Says the man shitposting on a forum that caters towards people with no relevancy in society

>>2732458
>>2732469
Daily reminder modern and contemporary/postmodern art are two different things and that I guarantee you've unwittingly looked at a piece of modern art and said it was good before.

>>2732469
What about this?

>“Or take these new dances which are so fashionable now. Some of them are completely improper. You wiggle a certain section of the anatomy, if you’ll pardon the expression. It’s indecent. As Kogan once said to me when she was looking at a fox-trot, ‘I’ve been married 20 years and never knew that this kind of activity is called the fox-trot!” …

>>2732484
Based.

Their propaganda was actually pretty similar to Nazi propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia7N1l7zrlk
This is from Poland, but there are subtitles. They also talked often about Western 'degeneracy'.

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>>2732511
Homosexuality is a bourgeois disease.

>>2732100
Genocide every single intellectual, genocide independent farmers.

>>2732474
Thanks for agreeing.

For some reason I read 'capitalism' instead of 'communism' so I posted >>2732271 since I thought you were a shitposter, sorry OP.
I think that since communists perceive history through a materialist lens, they deemed the culture that didn't show communism as a good thing to be the product of the material conditions induced by one class exploiting another, thus favoring culture they deemed to be devoid of the influence of exploitation aka what the Party decides is fine.
>That music piece? Burgeois decadence, real music reflects the struggle of the proletariat!

>>2732100
What exactly do you mean? The cultures recovered, they weren't destroyed like in China.
Do you mean the cultural legacy that those governments left behind?

>>2732649
>The cultures recovered, they weren't destroyed like in China.
>implying most of modern eastern european culture isn't just larping

>>2732940
Isn't all culture just larping in the end?

>>2732971
cant compare continuous traditions to sudden revival of WE WUZ NOBLES N SHIT

>>2732100
>90% rural population at the beginning of 20c
>mass exodus to cities
>commieblocks built on massive scale
>90% live in commieblocks
>got used to leave in commiblocks and be depressed and squat

would happen even if there were no socialism/communism, but there ould have beenl endless favelas instead of commieblocks - see Brazil

>>2732100
> Muh culture
> Hand over everything to the aristocracy and the church.

You really think it was any better under the tsar?

>>2732463
Then Arvo Part.

>>2732413
Sound similar to mainland China

>>2732446
1984/10.

>>2732100
>castrate most of eastern european culture
Russia and russians were far more cultured during the USSR years. \literacy rates skyrcoketed ubder the Soviets and Soviet movies are superior to modern ones made in Russia.

>>2732982
Nothing wrong with larp, that's literally how renaissance happen

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>>2732450
He had a point, though, look at this shit. It's like he wasn't even trying.

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>>2734294
Arvo Part is a downright political dissident, and a Christian (whereas soviet regime is atheistic), if you're implying the contrary.

>>2732431
have you ever talked to a illiterate person? The kind that believe that islands are floating pieces of land and the sun goes around the earth?

>>2734967
I'm 100% sure you never an illiterate person in your life and get your opinions on them from some dogshit entertainment media like Monty Python.

>>2732340
Don't forget Sergei Eisenstein.

>>2735803
>Jewish propaganda movie director.

No thanks. We already have Hollywood for that.

The short answer is that it wasn't particularly great to begin with. However, communism did a lot to destroy civil society, which is why these countries are experiencing brain drain and why being a Nazi is socially acceptable in places like Hungary.

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>>2732100
By winning WW1

>We have liberated you with our troops!
>thanks
>We're not leaving tho

>>2735050
well, you're wrong

>>2735927
>No thanks. We already have Hollywood for that.
Yeah but those Jews are all hacks compared to what Eisenstein was able to do with a camera