Operation Barbarossa

>>2717492
The Russians won by sending in a ton of expandable troops and infantry.

>>2717496
so does that mean that the Russians won by attrition, rather than being competent?

>>2717507
if the German leadership had been competent they wouldn't have declared war on an enemy they had no hope of defeating

>>2717507
A military planner works with the natural advantages and disadvantages of the army they are dealt
Russia had an overwhelming manpower advantage and it was used to maximum effect, which is what any competent military planner would do.
Read your Clausewitz, undergrad.

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>>2717507
Russia was more competent with their soldiers and used what resources they had to maximum effect. The blame lies on Hitler for believing his delusions he would pull a miracle and be able to defeat them.

>>2717492

Because real war isn't CoD and you don't automatically win by having a better K/D ratio. The Soviets were able to complete their objectives while the Axis failed to complete theirs.

>>2717492
Because Russia on it's own would have lost, Germany was retarded enough to declare an unwinnable war against Britain before going to war against Russia and then while it's armies are still fighting in Russia the Eternally Retarded Kraut decides that going to war with the US is a good idea because the Nips were at war with the US.

>>2717492
Clay>Lives

ppl often forget the war in the east was mainly an offensive war for the USSR
germans offenses
>half the year of 41
>42

soviet offensive period started as early as operation saturn and stayed like that till the end
its usually more costly for the attacker to wage war

>>2717559
Have you seen the size of that book?? Fuck that

>>2717492
One aspect contributing to this proportion is the high number of Soviet prisoners in the beginning. Germany did not actually hold them as POWs but let them starve and freeze to death.

>>2717687
Just grab an abridged edition, both penguin and oxford university put out one each, they're dead simple to find, and they've got all the juicy bits.

>>2717687
>a normal lenght book is "fuck that" category to youth who is interested in the subject

truly a trash generation

>>2717720
>penguin
>not being a total autist about it
https://www.clausewitz.com/mobile/whichtrans.htm

>>2717756
>mention two publishers with two translations
>you seize on the worst and ignore the second best
jeez you really mean it when you say total autism