If the entire New Testament is fake/made up, including Peter, who was the first real Pope?
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>>2709843
That's actually a really interesting point.
Le smarmy Zoolander btfo.
>>2709843
Considering that pope is just Latin for "father" there has only ever been one of any importance and that is the LORD Himself.
if jesus is fictious its most likely that Peter actually did exist and gave himself a big role in his story, and used this to gain power over the people
>>2709843
Few if any scholars believe the entire new testament was fake/made up. Rather large parts of it are hear say and bias accounts and it presents a rather limited scope of early Christianity, mostly from Paul's followers
>>2710128
pope is not latin for "father" thats pater.
pope is short for pontifex maximus who is the nominal head of the state religion
>>2710128
>pope is just Latin for "father"
Not quite. The Latin word for pope is papa, and the Latin word for father is pater. The Latin word papa, however, comes from the Greek pappas, which might be translated as daddy.
>>2710158
Thank you for correcting me.
>>2710158
Pappas cummies?
>>2710158
>The word pope is derived ultimately from the Greek πάππας[1] (páppas[2]) originally an affectionate term meaning "father",
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_(word)
So he isn't actually wrong in the sense that pope can indeed be translated as "father" but the missing element was the Greek origin which you thankfully provided.