Democratic Communism would work. The current Communist states

>r-real communsim hasn't been tried guys!! pls just one more go...

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>>2704403

>>2704403
Lenin's was democratic as was Trotsky's and still many died.

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>>2704403
Then why doesn't it ever happen? Every time they get in power it's just an endless stream of excuses. Oh muh counter-revolutionaries! Oh muh reactionaries! Oh muh bourgeois elements! Oh muh greedy farmers! Oh muh cosmopolitans! Oh muh capitalist markets! Oh muh imperialism! Oh muh rightist demagogues! Oh muh liberalism! Oh muh anti-3rd worldists! Oh muh...etc etc

If communism, or rather socialism, is so perfect then why does it get BTFO by absolutely everything and everyone?

>inb4 oh muh X

>>2704403
>it is another OP fails to understand communism as a endgoal and Marx-Leninist as an ideology that seeks to bypass the captialism-socialism stage episode

>>2704447
>If communism, or rather socialism, is so perfect then why does it get BTFO by absolutely everything and everyone?
CIA

>>2704450
ML sought to bypass feudalism-capitalism tbqh

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>>2704410
>>2704431
>>2704433
>>2704447
>>2704450

>>2704403

Communism requires autocratic tyranny to exist.

>>2704452
Is the CIA the most powerful race in the entire world?

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>>2704459
Yea my bad

>>2704447
Google School of Death

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>>2704447
>If communism, or rather socialism, is so perfect then why does it get BTFO by absolutely everything and everyone?
sorry what

>>2704461

i'm quite happy to argue for the current brand of capitalism that has given the highest standards of living in human history tbqh

>>2704476
>th-thank you for that lend-lease mr roosevelt, I was almost running out of russians

>>2704431
As much as I dislike the fact, that people who want communism aren't able to bring it forth to the end I also equally hate people who post false cognates.

Rain and communism are the final state that is being aimed for. Rain dance is the supposed the be the method for rain which is unsuccessful. Likewise, socialism is a transition period/method to achieve communism.

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>>2704487
Why do you give this man your money?
Why do you let this man run your government?
Why do you defend this man?

>>2704461
Completely inaccurate picture
Leopold had their arms hacked off not shot

>>2704497
>literally the MUHJOOS of communism
lmaoing@urlyf

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>>2704487
You do know what the next stage is right?

>>2704494
>the soviets totally didn't win world war 2!
>they received some aid from their opponents other enemies it doesn't count!

>>2704501
Lobbyists don't even hide how they manipulate the government. Keep working your unlivable wage.

I really enjoy this discussion. I'm learning a lot.

>>2704507
>winning a war is the same as your ideology winning
you're as bad as /pol/tards boasting about muh blitzkrieg

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>>2704511
Oh yes, so unlivable I can afford hours upon hours a week dedicated solely to shitposting

>>2704403
>Communist countries never have elections.
Meme history,
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_democracy
tl;dr. They had elections. Difference is: it's hierarchical elections. In China, for example, you as an average Chink citizen voted for your local government representatives, at around the provincial level. These, in turn, supposedly represent your interests, who will get to vote on National-level elections.

>>2704461
does anyone ever actually argue that any of that isn't capitalism?

also communists aren't innocents

>>2704528
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_democracy
elections where every district that voted for a party other than the Bolsheviks or Mensheviks had their results overturned and population slaughtered isn't really a democracy my dude

>>2704567
>It doesn't matter who votes. What matters is who counts the ballots.
- some Georgian guy

>>2704403
>No private property
>Democracy

>>2704567
>every district that voted for a party other than the Bolsheviks or Mensheviks had their results overturned and population slaughtered
Not a USSR admirer or a communist, but could you provide some source on this, please?

>>2704431
>this flying machine is not a real flying machine because it failed to fly

>>2704431
>Wow let's compare 2 completely unrelated things together to prove that my own opinion is correct

>>2704528
Does the case for Allende count as well?

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>all this 'hurr it never happened'
>muh bolshevik elections
>muh soviet democracy
>no actual arguments about why democratic communism wouldn't work

come on guys

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>>2704664
>it works in my mind