Jungle people

>>2698117
because south america's are qt caramel colored people

>>2698117
citation on "Africa's jungle people get so much more negative attention" please?

>>2698117
Most of them stopped having shitty wars & civil wars save for those idiots in the Venezuela/Colombia region.

>>2698117
Do south american jungle peoples have warlords and shit?

>>2698121
Just anecdotally, they are the targets of a lot more vitriol, even though they are comparably savage.

>>2698120
Pretty much this

>>2698120
Lol no. You are just getting the SANITIZED version of it. Many of the brown "natives" are actually mixed.

>>2698145
>Many of the brown "natives" are actually mixed.

This is in regards to many pics paraded around of qt girls and such.

>>2698117
The equatorial populations of Africa were in essence pioneers. Even the pygmy populations were on its periphery until the introduction of Wa-Diba introduced banana.

Also tsetse, malaria, various parasites and other site specific diseases and vectors that created things like AIDS.

>>2698145
Both are Zambo derived in OP pic

Native American tribes don't fuck infants in an effort to cure disease

>>2698188
I'm talking about amazonians. They are canabalistic and conduct human sacrifice.

I want to fuck the South Americans, but not the natives in Africa's jungle.

>>2698192
Which is actually not too uncommon in ancient cultures. The difference is that there are policies in place that stop outsiders from entering into the tribes to interfere. Africa has a bunch of help going towards it, and they still act the way they do. Thus, they get worse press because they should, theoretically, be better due to outside influence.

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>>2698200

>>2698126
There is a tribe in Perú who is still literally without """contact""" with the modern world and now and then they raid rural towns. Pretty cool if you ask me.

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Because the south americans actually accomplished shit.

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>>2698326
That's the Andes, not the jungle.

>>2698337

Lmao nice sand castle niggers

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>>2698360
>Built by Arabs

>>2698412
At what latitude do niggers end and Arabs begin?

That's Mali btw.

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>>2698415

>>2698207
Tbh it's exceptionally rare. My sister in law doesn't even flinch at the headlines "just as an American will eat a person so too does the insane and deranged in Zaire" (she still refers to it as Zaire for some reason, never ask why)

But yes Amazonian folks get just as much pressure, most Congolese are just trying to reach an international audience too.

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>>2698436
Niggers come in all shades. Give me a country, or a latitude.

>>2698188
and people all over the world do stupid as fuck things don't know why this is so exceptional?

>>2698436
Igbo can be the same color as Chinese naturally.

>>2698523
its a black and white oversimplification obviously

>>2698207
>Africa has a bunch of help going towards it, and they still act the way they do. Thus, they get worse press because they should, theoretically, be better due to outside influence.

Lol no. Also the funny thing about Brazilian natives people still think they don't have contact with the outside world or Brazil in general or haven't made use of modern conveniances.

>>2698278

At whom am I looking?

>>2698278
Brb, gunna masturbate

Aside from the pygmies, is there so many jungle peoples in Africa ?
The various bantu tribes live next to the jungle and not inside, no ?

>>2698117
The south americans had actual civilizations in their jungles, the africans did not

>>2698669
What civilizations were in the jungle?

>>2698672

Jungle civilizations.

>tfw no jungle qt native to show you the sexual secrets of the universe

why live

>>2698683
Name one

>>2698672
The Maya, parts of the Inca

Discourse on Sub-Saharan Africa's past, has been corrupted. It triggers everyone due the whole white vs black attitudes. South America doesn't have that baggage to deal with. Africans get shit for building with mud, when it's an abundant medium in the region, just like snow for Eskimos. I'm not interested in the whole we wuz kangs thing, and as a person interested in Africa, I have my own qualms about various attitudes and practices.

>>2698687
Mud is a fine building material and any society in a environment that could use it did

>>2698686
Mayans, were in Central America, and inca were in the Andes. That's like giving the African jungle people, the moors, Nubians, and Semites.

They did have the Fulani jihad states, and scattered "empires". The jungle is not conducive to sophisticated societies.

>>2698702
The inca empire extended into the amazon

>>2698685

I just did.

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>>2698720
>what is the Andes.

That's the same as saying the moors or Egyptians extended down into the jungle.

>>2698731
>what is the Andes
A mountain range, on the far side of which is the fucking amazon in which the inca had settlements

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>>2698742
So how does that compare with the far side of the African jungle? Pic related is Ethiopian castle.

>>2698754
The ethiopians are thousands of miles from the african jungle

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>>2698757
It directly borders the African jungle. It is an apt equivalency.

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>>2698672
>>2698686
They did have cities in the amazon rainforest in the Xingu region, which were interconnected by large very flat roads. Usually they were clusters of villages closely connected to a central even larger one on a 4 directional axis, so five large villages organized as a single community. Many such cities are scattered and interlinked with each other as well in the region. Each one is estimated to have had up to 30,000 people which is much smaller than villages there today which number about 2-3,000. To support large populations they managed orchards and gardens which they transformed much of the amazon into, since it naturally has poor soil. Terra preta, the black and very fertile soil they invented allowed them to sustain agriculture and have large permanent settlements. Archeologically, there is still much to discover in the amazon rainforest, but the societies there are very old. Some pottery dates back to thousands of years.

>>2698754
>ethiopians
>black
When will this meme die

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>>2699167
>>2699167

desu I don't think that the part about roads is true.

not doubting their ability to build em, just think its unnecessary for peoples that didn't have horses, carriages, etc.

from what I know they're medium of transportation was mainly through the rivers.

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>>2698337
>>2698360

>tfw this aesthetic is lost forever
>tfw when Africa will industrialize collectively they will steal shitty western contemporary aesthetics, ending up with shitty skycrapers instead of the magical ones of those pics

Reminder that the US ruined EVERYTHING

>>2698304
>Pretty cool if you ask me.
Until said rural towns have enough and exterminate the tribe with the help of corporate funded mercenaries. The land will be turned into agriculture and the trees will be cut down.

>>2699191
>For more than 20 years, researchers have been building the case that pre-Columbian peoples had a significant impact on much of the Amazon. There were many hints: large mounds near the mouth of the river, sophisticated dikes and fish weirs in Bolivia, forests planted with palms and fruit trees, and patches of soils enriched by humans. But many experts assumed that larger, more complex societies were restricted to the relatively fertile floodplains in the region's lowest lying lands.

That's not the picture emerging from the highlands of the Upper Xingu River, where archaeologist Michael Heckenberger of the University of Florida, Gainesville, has spent more than a decade mapping earthworks such as roads up to 50 meters wide. The newest work, described in the 19 September issue of Science, has revealed 19 pre-Columbian villages linked to smaller settlements by remarkably straight roads. Shorter avenues headed out toward the same points of the compass, as if the villages were all built from a similar blueprint. "This really blew us away," Heckenberger says, for it implied a society much larger and more complex than any in the Amazon today.

>>2699241
>Anthropologist Michael Heckenberger of the University of Florida teamed with the local Kuikuro people in the Brazilian state of Mato Grosso to uncover 28 towns, villages and hamlets that may have supported as many as 50,000 people within roughly 7,700 square miles (20,000 square kilometers) of forest—an area slightly smaller than New Jersey. The larger towns boasted defensive ditches 10 feet (three meters) deep and 33 feet (10 meters) wide backed by a wooden palisade as well as large plazas, some reaching 490 feet (150 meters) across.

>The remains of houses and ceramic cooking utensils show that humans occupied these cities for around 1,000 years, from roughly 1,500 years to as recently as 400 years ago. Satellite pictures reveal that during that time, the inhabitants carved roads through the jungle; all plaza villages had a major road that ran northeast to southwest along the summer solstice axis and linked to other settlements as much as three miles (five kilometers) away. There were bridges on some of the roads and others had canoe canals running alongside them.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/lost-amazon-cities/

>>2698672
Khmer if we look to Asia.

>>2698443
I see only a posible nigger here, the rest are mulattoes or very mixed (the one with the blue dress).

>>2698443
from left to right
>half white
>mostly white
>mixed black, white and native
>black
>white

and the peeking white guy behind him. So only one is a nigger the rest are white or partially white.

>>2699361
>>2699343

Black Americans by definition are mixed to varying degrees. There is practically no black Americans that are 100% black

>>2699361
Wow you're dumb if you think Beyonce is mostly white and Jay Z is near half.

Folks sure love making successful black people less black when it suits them.

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>>2699187
These people are definitely white.

>>2698443
I know a lot of you guys hate Beyonce, but I'd give her the dick and I'd feel no shame about it either.

>>2699635
They're quite clearly appropriating African culture by appearing to be dark skinned.

>>2699589
Wasn't Beyonce bullied in Barbadosfor being too white?

>>2699736
Fake news, Rihanna is from Barbados.

>>2699635
Ethiopians by the looks of it, and unironically you are right, they are white racially and technically speaking.

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>>2699750
>nappy hair.
>white
If they're white than I'm straight up Nordic.

WE

>>2699635
Look at their faces, they're not negroid.

>>2699584
No they exist in the Black belt and those with ancestors from there exclusively

>>2699809
We are black get over it

>>2698117
South america's are cooler looking.

>>2699203
The first pic you quoted looks like American art deco architecture, just in stone, though. American tallbuildings in general are pretty cool, taking either weird geometric figures resembling crystal structures or with the bold curves and gothic elements of art deco. Look at the chrysler building or the empire state building for really excellent examples.

[spoiler]The Twin Towers were an eyesore but they're only as iconic as they are because of the loss of life associated with their destruction.

>>2699830
fuck off west african

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>>2699809
Negroid is a very specific classification, "black" is a much larger classification. There is overlap between so called negroid and caucusoid features, so it's an archaic classification.

And yeah there faces do look "negroid" with maybe slight Arab admixture.

Pic is "black" or I guess what you would consider negroid, because they are from the states.

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>>2699826
This stuff is very easy to look up. Black Americans by definition have european admixture.

Why does this make some white people feel so insecure?

Now it is knows the Amazonas was much more populated than we thought, and that it was largely terraformed. It was never a pristine jungle.

also, it is possible that civilizations of the Amazon were wiped out by disease even before being discovered.

this is a good read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta

One of the best examples is in the Llanos de Moxos in Bolivia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanos_de_Moxos_(archaeology)

>>2699836
It's the black version of. "Are slavs white?"

>>2699868
No they aren't and Griffe does not represent them neither does that photo

>>2699886
Why are you so jealous of black Americans?

>>2699836
I'm Habesha you stupid ferenj
>>2699857
The definition of Aethiopid is Negroid phenotypical inclusion

>>2699898
Thank you clarifying.

>>2698117
Because they are human like us while niggers are from another branch of humans so they are fucking shit by definition.

>>2699746
I mean while she lived there, at school.

>>2699940
Beyonce never went to school there dumbass

>>2699940
Black kids bully each other about whiteness all the time. It's normal. Kids bully each other about all sorts of stuff all the time.

>>2699635
No look at their facial bone structure, still negroid.

I recommend reading this from Ulrich Schmidt, a German who joined the Spanish expedition that colonized the River Plate region (Paraguay and Atlantic Argentina)

And also what Vaca de Narvaja wrote.
There are many testimonies from the XVI century by people who were there

THE CONQUEST
OF
THE RIVER PLATE
(1535-1555).

I.
VOYAGE OF ULRICH SCHMIDT TO THE RIVERS LA PLATA AND PARAGUAI.
FROM THE ORIGINAL GERMAN EDITION, 1567.

II.
THE COMMENTARIES OF ALVAR NUÑEZ CABEZA DE VACA.
FROM THE ORIGINAL SPANISH EDITION, 1555.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/48058/48058-h/48058-h.htm

>>2699361
>Nig-Z
>half white

Those giant gumbo lips should have tipped you off that he is 70% nigger.

>>2699947
Kids make fun of the blonde haired kid, the dark skinned kid, the kid with the small nose or the big nose. Literally anyone outside the norm. But anon is obsessed with whiteness so you have to get why he posts the way he does.

>>2699247
>https://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/lost-amazon-cities/

thanks for the answer

>>2699948
I was being sarcastic. The fact that white people are making such ludicrous claims are indicative of another underlying agenda. I'm trying to start a conversation about that, never talked about, hidden agenda.

>>2699961
>white
ISHYGDDT
>ludicrous claims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_Ethiopia#Maternal_lineages

>

Caucasoid gene flow into the Ethiopian gene pool occurred predominantly through males. Conversely, the Niger–Congo contribution to the Ethiopian population occurred mainly through females.[25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_Urheimat#Red_Sea.2FHorn_of_Africa_theory

>>2698117
The jungle sucks honestly, you have to be careful where you cut down trees in order to build a settlement because it rains so much that the ground becomes muddy without the tree roots being able to absorb the water.

Temperate forest are much better to have civilizations developed in.

>>2700098
Actually this is false. Riparian grassland/savanna is.

>>2698304
source thats pretty cool

>>2700040
>MUH HAPLOAUTISM

nah and Caucasoid =! white

>>2699953
"SOON after the arrival of the governor at the Ascension the natives and conquistadores brought serious charges against the officers of His Majesty. Alvar Nuñez therefore ordered all the native subjects of the king to assemble, and in the presence of the monks and clergy told them he had been sent to protect them, and that they should come to the knowledge of God and accept Christianity at the hands of the monks and clergy who had come as the ministers of God, and should subject themselves to His Majesty. If they did this they would be better treated and protected. He warned them to give up eating human flesh, as that was a sin and grave offence in the sight of God. The monks and the clergy repeated this warning, and the governor concluded by distributing presents among them, such as shirts, stuffs, caps, and other things they delighted in.

These Guaranís speak a language common to all the tribes of this province. They eat the flesh of their enemies whom they take captive in war, bringing them to their settlements and making great merriment and rejoicing with them, dancing and singing till the captive grows fat. They give him their wives and daughters, in order that he may have every pleasure. It is these wives who take the trouble to- 130 - fatten him. Those held in the greatest honour among them admit him to their couches, adorn him in various ways according to their custom, and bedeck him with feathers and necklaces of white beads and stones, which are much prized among them. When he begins to grow fat they redouble their efforts; the dancing, singing, and pleasures of all kinds increase.

>>2700102
Savanna isnt jungle anon, jungles are so awful for humans that they make humans become stupid overtime, those amazon moron's ancestors that came from the Bering Strait were far more intelligent than them. In some cases like the Piraha tribe they are essentially niggerizing mentally as the Piraha have no fucking concept of time at all.

>>2700150
Then the men come; they adorn and make ready three boys of the age of six or seven, placing a little hatchet in their hands. The Indian considered the bravest among them now takes a wooden sword in his hand, called in their language macana, and leads the captive to a place where he is made to dance for one hour; the Indian then advances, and with both hands deals him a blow in the loins, and another on the spine to knock him down. It happens sometimes that after striking him six blows on the head they cannot kill him, so hard are their heads, though this two-handed sword is made of very tough, heavy, black wood, and the executioner is strong enough to kill an ox with a single blow. When they have knocked him down the three boys come with their hatchets, and the eldest of them, usually the son of the chief, begins striking blows on his head, the others do the same till the blood flows; the Indians meanwhile exhorting them to be brave and learn to kill their enemies and make war upon them, and to remember that this victim has killed many of their own people, and that they should revenge themselves upon him. As soon as he is dead the one that gave him the first blow takes the name of the dead man and keeps it henceforward in token of his bravery. Then the old women cut the body in pieces and cook it in their earthenware pots, distributing the flesh among themselves. They eat it and consider it excellent food. Afterwards they resume their dancing and pleasures, which last several days, saying that now the enemy who had slain their relatives is dead, they will take their rest and make merry.

CHAPTER THE NINETEENTH.
How the governor received complaints against the Indian Guaycurús.

THE riparian chiefs, and those inhabiting the vicinity of the Paraguai, near the town of the Ascension, vassals of His Majesty, came and presented themselves before the governor, and complained of a tribe of Indians that dwelt near their borders. These Indians are great warriors, and valiant men, who live on venison, butter, honey, fish, and wild boar, eating nothing besides, neither they nor their wives and children. They go daily to the chase for it is their only occupation. They are nimble and vigorous, swift of foot, and so long-winded that they tire out the deer, and catch them with their hands, besides slaying many more with their arrows, as well as tigers and other fierce animals. They are kind to their wives, and not only to those of their own tribe, who are greatly esteemed by them, but also to women generally; thus, if any fall into their hands when they are making war, they set them at liberty, and do them no wrong. They are much feared by all the other tribes. They never remain more than two days in one place, but quickly remove their houses, made of matting, to distances of one or two leagues when they are in pursuit of game. This tribe, and others that live by fishing, eat of a certain bean[320] that grows in that country; they search for it in the mountains where the trees are that produce this fruit; and the wild boar climb the hills at the same time, and for the same purpose. It ripens in November and the beginning of December, and they make flour of it, and wine strong enough to intoxicate themselves.

>>2700137
I couldn't find better articles in English, but here is this one from RT

https://www.rt.com/news/217415-peru-tribal-attack-evacuation/

>Peruvian authorities have started evacuating Monte Salvado village situated in a remote southeastern region, after around 200 men from an ‘uncontacted’ tribe attacked the settlement with bows and arrows and stole food and equipment.

>When they were able to return hours later, they saw the raiders had taken all their food, cooking utensils, machetes, clothes and even mosquito nets. In previous attacks, the tribe also reportedly killed several domestic animals.

>Mashco Piro is indigenous tribe living in Peruvian rainforest near the Brazilian border, generally in Manu Park in the Madre de Dios Region. Their number is estimated over 1,500 people, who are hunters-gatherers. They live in so-called voluntary isolation and generally do not contact with other people. However, this year they have tried to contact another tribe, Yeni, but unsuccessfully, which finally resulted in attacking Monte Salvado.

>>2699227
>fuccbois living a modern easy life, even if we are talking Peru tier standards
>fighting off Amerindians with bows, arrows, spears and so on who fight jaguars daily

Nah, m8, besides, their "uncontacted" tribe classification make them basically immune. Im sure the government could reduce them pretty easily, but everybody from NGOs to the UN would jump on their defence and what not.

>>2700140
brainlet
>Caucasoid =! white

never said that, you're just a simpleton who relies on strawmen and WE memes

>>2700201
>Thinking companies give a shit what the UN thinks
>Thinking anybody gives a shit what the UN thinks
>Believing NGO's would do something else but bitch and moan
>Believing corporations wouldn't just burn the forest they're living in to make grassland
The only reason they're not dead yet, is because the place they're living in is useless at the moment to either government or companies. If they were sitting on a bunch of oil, Exxon would of had them all killed and no one would know till it's too late.

>>2700040
Niger Congo doesn't exist in the horn anon at all. No traces of their language in the horn either.

>>2700040
Same thing happened with Americans.

>>2699203
Fuck off you shitty feels faggot. Fucks like you are an impediment to development world wide with you "ought to be" Garden of eden esque bullshit.

The fucks who get triggered when some rural guy pulls out a phone.

>>2698687
>South America doesn't have that baggage to deal with.


They have their own baggage to anon.

>>2700152
No you fool. Temperate forest is not ideal. The lands with much water and with biomass primarily in The form of grasses are.

Riparian bottomlands are the basis of agriculture in nearly every region around the world.

>>2700957
In the context of /his/, I'd beg to differ. It's anecdotal, but I've never seen Ancient South America threads derail unlike African based ones. SA threads even had an artist drawing cool depictions of the natives. Every African thread derails into Kangs 'N shit.

>>2698117
>How come Africa's jungle people who have inhabited their regions since the evolution if homo sapiens get so much more negative attention than South America's who emigrated to the region less than 40,000 years ago?

This is why I can't take anything seriously regarding afro-apologists, the Aztecs had science and architecture that surpassed all of sub-sahara Africa, but were there for only thousands of years.

>>2701304
I didn't say the Aztecs. They are as related to amazonians as ancient Egyptians are related to African jungle people.

>>2699361
Implying even having only 10% black blood *doesn't* make you a nigger.

>>2701316
Oh, the focus is in the Amazonians, well still, they've existed in their region for less than 40,000 years.

>>2700098

>The jungle sucks honestly, you have to be careful where you cut down trees in order to build a settlement because it rains so much that the ground becomes muddy without the tree roots being able to absorb the water.

The tribes of the Amazon did quite well with what they had.

A lot like tribes in North America, they cultivated the forest. They never built massive cities (that we know of) but their villages were parts in a vast trade network that acted like a loose nation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/its-now-clear-that-ancient-humans-helped-enrich-the-amazon/518439/

What little survives of records of the Incas suggests they had settlements in the jungle too and they routinely traded with tribal people for goods.

Pre-Columbian trade is fascinating. It's a shame most of the record of it has been lost.

There has never once been and advanced civilization that developed in jungle terrain, yet only Africans get shit about it.

Also for whatever reason some people talk as though there has always been an impenetrable wall between the African jungle and the climes, and people that surround it, as if there has never been any blending or influence. That would be a one of a kind case in all of human history.

>>2701436

>There has never once been and advanced civilization that developed in jungle terrain, yet only Africans get shit about it.

>Khmer
>Mayans

Just because it wasn't the Amazon doesn't mean it wasn't jungle

>>2698129
Well they had a much nicer ancient civilization and people come into contact with niggers way more than they do South American natives. I've been around South America and everyone isn't a native hates them. I met a couple of people with native maids and was pretty shocked at how badly they were treated.

>>2701497
>much nicer ancient civilization
That is debatable, because if you give amazonians, maya, I can, and Aztecs, then you have to give Africans, Nubia, Egypt, and the moors, to keep it an apples to apples comparison.

>>2701512
Inca*

>>2701512
Oh I didn't properly read the OP. Still, the rest of my post is enough of an answer. Most people don't give a shit about South American jungle tribes unless they are from South America.

>>2698436
Argentinians whiter than Australians you heard it here first. Get fucked Kangaroos.

>>2698120
this

>>2701455
Those are subtropical not true equatorial

>>2701304
There are no "jungle" people until the introduction of the Banana. Even pygmies only were in the drier woodlands until they formed mutualistic relationships with farmers.

>>2698120
Bushman are of similar hue

>>2701497
>I've been around South America and everyone isn't a native hates them. I met a couple of people with native maids and was pretty shocked at how badly they were treated.

You see the fucked up shit that happens with ranchers and rich families who basically enslave antives+other non-indio Brazilians nearby. If you are an environmental activist (many who are native, many who are not/mixed) your life is basically forfeit because said ranchers/ families pay people to kill you. Literal assassinations.