Which empire do you want to bring back the most?

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>>2697602
Unironically the Ottomans.

The MENA + Eastern Europe mix in the early modern period is something I find exceedingly attractive.

>>2697602
>that enclave in arabia
Why?

>>2697649
trade routes

>>2697649
shipping routes probably

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>you will NEVER see Austria-Hungary democratize and give autonomy to the nationalities living within it
>you will never see Central Europe develop peacefully while avoiding the violence, genocide, and oppression of fascism and Stalinism

why even live?

>>2697619
Especially compared to what we have today for both areas

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Britain

Spain

Han/Qin China

Rome

Nazi Germany

So much choice

>>2697647

You know. That ugly Soviet/Polish border totally justifies the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

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Long live the Hwan Empire!
환국제국만세!

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>>2697782
seleucids were a meme empire, sassanids ftw

>>2697772

the dragon will be killed by an eagle and a bear fool

>>2697800
t. Finn scum

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>>2697782
My Philos

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Aztec, but with steel and gunpowder weapons

>>2697602
Holy Roman

>>2697782
>>2699544
Seleucaboos aren't even a thing

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>>2699663
For now

>>2697772
They edeserve what they got.

dude saracens lmao

>>2697602
German.

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Byzantine empire

t. Christian middle easterner

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Cnut the Great's empire

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>>2697602
The Ancient Finnish Empire

>>2700022
This

>>2697602
Rashidun Caliphate

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>>2697602
Butthurt Persians

>>2700087
Alexander was shit
>hurrrrrrr lemme ruin this beautiful city cause I'm drunk

>>2697602
idk but Africa would be better off if their states were more consolidated.

>>2697602
The Mongolian. Just the territory they had in Siberia though. Fuck the RUS

>>2700133
He was just a kid who had the fortune of having Philip as his father and Darius III as the Emperor of Persia.

>>2697647
oh god, I wish we're a US state. harder ameridaddy.

>>2700448
One incapable leader doesn't spoil the bunch, you couldn't have destroyed the Persian Empire and never lost a single battle had you been less of a man than Alexander.

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Pretty fucking obvious.

I do have a soft spot for Carthage too, even though they were Rome's mortal enemies.

>>2697619
An Ottoman Empire would be preferable to the current clusterfuck that is the middle east.

>>2697731
Poland was bigger once.

>>2697647
The US would have probably went to War with the Britains over Canada had the WW not happened.

>>2697681
>Plan democratization
>State visit (plan prelemary talks on your plans about the above topic)
>Get shot on state visit
Ooops.
>They still regard him a hero.
>"We did something!"
Why did Yugoslavia even break up.

>>2697602
Roman Empire-Tier European Union with all present Member states included (incl. Greenland and other associated Territories that are not part of the EU).
OR
Extended Roman Empire-Tier: The above plus ALL held colonies. Even if they successfully split later.
OR
Fuck everyone-Tier: All of the Above + Soviet Union at Height & Colonies.
OR
World Governmet-Tier. Gotta exploit the stars. Where's my Dyson Sphere?

Hello World Civil Wars!

>>2700832
Would they have allowed Carthage sui generis to remain a somewhat autonomous part of the Empire?

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>>2697619

It's a fascinating one. I've often wondered what would have happened if the Ottomans had simply been offered their 1914 borders in the Treaty of Sevres.

Would they have held onto their Arab holdings? If so, would they have reemerged as a global superpower given their massive oil reserves? Would they have been able to prevent the rise of radical Islamism? Would they have got through WW2 unscathed and whose side (if any) would they have joined (and what kind of impact would their participation have had)? What would the world look like in the absence of Israel? Would they have asserted their claim to Egypt and Tripolitania? What kind of government system would they have developed (they had an absolute sultanate, a proto-parliamentary democracy and a triumverate semi-dictatorship all during the last years of the empire)?

>>2702438
If they had fought in WWII they probably would've had to decolonize like Britain and France did.

>>2700832
If Rome with that border still existed, Islam would be the #1 religion in the Empire

>>2702438
i would be more interested in how things would have turned out if the british had kept their promises to the arabs and given them a united arab state.
if the arabs managed to hold together (maybe under a pan-arab nationalist ideology) that state could've completely altered the balance of power in the world. they would have a huge proportion of wordwide oil reserves under their control while at the same time having all the great cities of mesopotamia and the levant, giving them the opportunity to develop industrial capabilities.
the sa'uds and their retarded religious ideology would never have taken hold, much less been spread around the islamic world. Arab nationalism would not have been discredited, so pan-islamism would not have risen as an alternative ideology.

>>2697602
Mongolia

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>>2704171

Khwarazmian to be desu

>>2700832
t. Antonio 'Caeser' Russo

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>>2697602
Imagine Assyrian Empire now that would possess ruthlessness of old towards Arabs and Turks.

>>2700087
Overrated.

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i would like to bring back the portuguese empire

>>2697602
Russian Empire but with a modern parliamentary system.

>>2697602
We need this just so that this video can come true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bfaRdTMdfY

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>>2697619
Stop right there!

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MISSISSIPPIAN

The Caliphate of Cordoba under the Umayyads would be pretty nice.

Pre-9/11 US

In fact it is very important that this happens.

>>2707861
VERY good choice
>>2704104
>that is somehow a bad thing

>>2709299

kill yourself ahmed

>>2697602
Sassanids

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An actual Islamic Caliphate to replace the filthy arab nations.

>>2709370
>all of these in the span of 30 years

how the fuck did they do it

>>2700022
>tfw you will never defend the great Finnish empire from the Atlantian-Demiurge invasion

>>2709327
You first cletus

Umayyads

>>2709402

Most of it is empty desert occupied by 6 guys and a camel

My empire of dirt.

>>2709552
>persia
>egypt nille river delta
>mesopotamia

thats like 40% of the world population at the time

>>2709566
>>2709552
don't forget ROME

>>2709519
Bigger Saudi Arabia?

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>>2697619
This

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>>2697677
This, brother. I cry everytime.

>>2704104
You know the Romans were trying to kill Muhammad and his followers, right?

>>2702438
>Would they have held onto their Arab holdings?
Arab nationalism was a rising tide by 1914. Granted, the Ottomans tried to counter it with "Ottomanism" (a form of civic nationalism). You can bet any enemies would try to aggravate the Arabs, especially once the oil reserves were exposed. Oddly enough, to placate the Arabs, the Ottomans would probably have to take an Islamist bend (muh caliphate) and redistribute that oil money.

>If so, would they have reemerged as a global superpower given their massive oil reserves?
Absolutely. Even with the reserves they have now, the likes of Qatar and the UAE manage to be semi-relevant states. Imagine if the entirety of Arab Gulf oil reserves were in the hands of one state - they would be extremely powerful throughout the second half of the 20th century.

>Would they have been able to prevent the rise of radical Islamism?
Wahhabism would have been without the sponsorship of the Saudi royal family, which is a big reason why its so widespread. However, radical Islamism is a reaction. It's hard to imagine an Ottoman Empire that would satisfy the puritanical, ultra-orthodox demands of Salafis. You have a polity that contained a lot of Christians, not to mention Druze, Alevis, Sufis, Alawites, Jews, etc. I doubt radical Islamism would be as widespread as it is today, but I can easily see such a movement arising, perhaps with an essentially Arab bend.

>>2697619
>The MENA + Eastern Europe mix in the early modern period is something I find exceedingly attractive.

Are you me? That's the reason I find Israeli girls hot. American Jew girls do nothing for me.

>>2702351
>Cartago
>Delende
>Est

Sadly, Carthage is my top choice for this.