How much does climate take a role in the development of civilizations?

Warmer climate = humans prosper

colder climate = humans suffer

We're moving towards colder climate.

>>2697193

It's very important but in a way that is extremely complex and difficult to predict. Jungles are shitty, for example, but there have been a bunch of advanced civilizations in jungle. Deserts are also bad but of course three of the four ur-civilizations arose in deserts. Europe is too cold and wet but of course it today dominates the globe. Really almost anything you can say about how climate shapes cultures can be disproven with a counter-example.

>>2697202
So why do cold climates boast several very successful civilizations?

>>2697220

It's not a zero sum game. Generally warmer climate tends to be positive for humans and civilization whereas colder climate tends to be the opposite.

If climate is so much more important than genetics, how do you explain Anglos thriving both in cloudy cold England and sunny warm Australia?

good climate = usually good crop turnout = stable society = alls good

bad climate = crops dead = famine and pissed off and desperate lower classes (in a shitty situation they are the first ones to be dicked) = riots and civil upheavals = high class either
a. being responsible and helping out temporarily while maintaining rule of law = alls good
b. being responsible and permanently helping out = complacency
c. not doing shit and getting their ass kicked = hole of scum and villainy
d. adopting oppressive policy kicking the lower classes ass = a might makes right ideology = civil wars and political intrigue abound

>>2697193
Seeing as the Maya managed to flourish in the rainforest and the Amazon shows sophisticated cultures existed there too it doesn't seem to be a problem for development.

>>2697238
Winter kills off or limits the spread of vermin. Having 4 seasons is a yuge benefit to agriculture. Also, there is the autumn harvest mentality. If you are raised knowing winter is coming, and you have got to work hard spring/summer/autumn in order to survive, you have a good worker output. Compare this to tropical where there is low hanging fruit and t-shirt weather. Not much industry desu. Not even wool!

>>2697220
Britain is not cold, now Scandinevea that place is cold and took a while to develop civilization because cold kills crops and also saps your energy away making it suicidal to overexert yourself.

>>2697421
Russia and North Japan? Tibet?

>>2697493
Nihon is not cold compared to inland Asia like Russia or Canada.

>>2697250
Industrial revolution

>>2697493
Moscow began and grew in temperate climes. Tibet isn't that cold, it just reaches extremes in winter. You can still sow crops there. Mongolia would be a better example.

>>2697206
>three of the four ur-civilizations arose in deserts

not exactly. They were greener in the past and more fertile and one had a big river.

>>2697393
>Compare this to tropical where there is low hanging fruit

lol no. You still have a schedule to farm in mind