The easter eggs of history

>>2689347
Novgorod>Kiev>Moscow

>>2689354
>can't even defend itself on it own
> >

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>founded by the remnants of a Mongolic dynasty in Northern China
>source of the term 'Cathay'
>their defeat of the Seljuks in 1141 possibly contributed to the legend of Prester John

>>2689347
>tfw no Republican Novgorodian Russia
>tfw no aristocratic cultural Kievan Russia

Fucking hell what a waste.

>>2689404
In a similar vein, Western Xia

>Founded by some weird ass descendants of Tibetans called Tanguts in the Hexi Corridor and Xinjiang
>Fought a bunch of wars with the Jurchens and the Northern Song dynasty
>Fought with cannons mounted on the backs of camels
>State religion was Tantric Buddhism, and thus there were many abnormal sexual religious practices
>"Before they could get married to men of their own ethnicity when they reached 30 years old, Uighur women in Shanxi in the 12th century had children after having relations with multiple Han Chinese men, with her desirability as a wife enhancing if she had been with a large number of men."
>Eventually got destroyed so hard by Genghis Khan that it's often cited as one of the first and most successful examples of genocide

The entire history of this region during antiquity and Middle Ages is honestly so fascinating and underrated it hurts. There's so many different states like this that have been almost entirely lost to history, buried beneath the desert sands.

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>>2689607
Forgot map

>>2689607
>Before they could get married to men of their own ethnicity when they reached 30 years old, Uighur women in Shanxi in the 12th century had children after having relations with multiple Han Chinese men, with her desirability as a wife enhancing if she had been with a large number of men."

Fuck, that gave me a boner.

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>>2689404
>>founded by the remnants of a Mongolic dynasty in Northern China
The Liao Dynasty didn't really rule in Northern China. They simply set up camp *north* of what was then China proper and copied the civilization, with the royal house calling itself the Liao Dynasty.

They did attempt to Invade Northern China but were held off. While they were doing so however they were tremendously blown the fuck out by Aguda, who led the Jurchens into Liao territory and eventually took Northern China to boot,

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>>2689347
>Greco-Buddhist Afghanistan

>>2689418
>tfw we have gotten the worst possible Russia
t-thanks Ivan the terrible

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>>2690400
>>2689347

>tfw you will never live in a world where Russia successfully colonized Hawaii
>tfw Hawaiian Language is written in the Latin alphabet instead of Cryllic
>tfw no Russian words in Hawaiian Pidgin lexicon
>tfw no Russian Orthodox presence in Hawaii
>tfw no Hawaiian Soviet Socialist Republic in the 20th century

Thanks for nothing Alex

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California was an independent republic after seceding from Mexico for a month in 1846 until it was annexed by the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Republic

What could have been.....

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>>2691377
Republic of Sonora is another fun one. Pretty much the closest mainland American example of /pol/'s white paradise (aside from the Confederacy ofc)

>>2691422
Walker got around.

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>>2689925
This shit always amazes me, too bad we have no real sources on them.

>>2691433
Was no one able to find texts that they wrote?

>>2689418
>>2690400

We got the only Russia capable of surviving in that environment.

>>2691508
It doesn't help that the modern countries of that region have no interest in researching greek roots and are wartorn shitholes in general.

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>>2689925
sup?

>>2689418
>Boris, my son. You have to pick
>either highly developed merchant republic with extremely high level literacy and running on democratic principles
>or a subhuman despotic shithole ruled by a crypto-Tatar and his cohort of tax collectors for the Mongols
>squatting_gopnik.jpg

>>2689354
Vilnius>Novgorod>Kiev>Moscow

>>2691422
>>2691426
>Wants to start a colony to protect America from muh natives
>Mexico refuses his request so he gathers a bunch of hillbillies from Kentucky and Tennessee to invade Mexico
>Funds it by selling "redeemable" scrips backed by nothing with no resources to potentially back it with
>Invades Baja California with 45 men
>Actually conquer the capital
>Institute the laws of Louisiana as the law of the land
>Mexicans fight back and send him back to San Francisco
>Tried for starting an illegal war by himself
>Acquitted because of "muh manifest destiny"

Jeez Americans really are autistic.

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>>2689347
>Novgorod
>Like Venice
Hoвгopoд был yбoгим cыpьeвым пpидaткoм Гaнзы. Пpиcoeдинeниe к Mocкoвии лyчшee чтo cлyчилocь c этoй пoмoйкoй.

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New England on the black sea.

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>>2689347
>The Chinese don't have coloni-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongsi_federations

Also
>Chinese colonies governed via democracy...before Chinese ever heard of democracy.

The term "republic" is a term applied to the Kongsi federations by Dutch historians. The Kongsi republic however is governed via Kongsis- which translates to "Clan Halls." This was because the Kongsi republics were built by Merchants setting up shop in Southeast Asia. Since Merchant groups tend to all come from a single family or clan in China, they organized their colonies similar to how they organized their clan villages back in China: patriarchs of the family led by the chief elders gathered in clan halls and discussed village matters.

Though in the Kongsi republics, that was jacked up to 11 with a whole state pretty much run as a clan village. It therefore looked like a "republic" because every male family head had a say in decision making.

In Indonesian history, they held off the Dutch for quite a long time during the long Kongsi wars, until the 19th century at least when the Dutch firepower was better than theirs and the Qing Dynasty declined.

Pic related, one of the best known Kongsi republics.

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>>2689347
I really like that one time when some Polish Nobleman get really butthurt at Russia so he conquered bunch of land in China and proclaimed a city-state with cossacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaxa_(state)

>>2691352
thank christ

>>2694668
Holy fuck, now this truly surprised me

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There was both Albania and Iberia in Caucasus.

>>2693696
>>2690400
>>2689418
Retards thinks some shitty city-state will be able to control vast amount territories and people in it

>>2694668
now i'm surprised that the Polish actually had a territory in Asian Far East for a while

>>2689347
it's pronounced novgorod? i've been pronouncing it "novogrod" this whole time because i've never bothered to look past the first three letters

>>2694892
Novgorod (New city)

>>2694892
Novgorod in Russian.
Novo+grod variant in other Slavic languages.

>>2694912
ahhh yes very good my mistake can be overlooked now

>>2691377
It was like Texas in that they never intended to stay independent, and immediately offered to join the USA upon independence.

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Manichaeism existed in China till at least 17th century and among Uighurs till 11th.

>>2695441

hmm

Do we have any of Manchi's books? Like did any of the Chinese preserve their writings?

Syriac Christianity spread to India and China long before other Christians reached those lands.

>>2694912
>>2694930
Some examples of place names in other Slavic languages with the same meaning (New town/city)
Novograd in Ukrainian
Novigrad in Serbo-Croatian
Novo mesto in Slovene

>>2694173

Explain this.

>No Samurai Republic influenced by the United States in Hokkaido.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ezo

Byzantin Empire is moder day name in medival times it was called Roman Empire or Basileia Romaion. This state was true heir of Roman Empire because it was second part of Roman Empire

>>2695870
Nowy Gród in old-polish
also in old-polish y was readed as i or j sometimes and ó was long o
so it used to sound like Nowi grood

>>2696063

The less roman half of the roman empire.

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>>2695484

It's Mani, you dolt

>>2696087
Until a certain period it was the most civilized state on the planet.

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>>2696038
English colony in Crimea
>>2696044
>Japan without emperor
SHAMEFUR DISPRAY

>>2693917
Pskov>Vilnius>Novgorod>Kiev>Moscow

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>>2695549
And I forgot map.

>>2696038

After being rekt by william the bastard a bunch of english lords and their retainers and their families headed to Constantinople. Did the Emperor of Rome a solid by fighting some heathens and then were granted Crimea as a thankyou.

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The Munster Republic
Basically after the signing the Anglo-Irish treaty. The country broke out into civil war and the very anti-treaty Ira declared an independent republic in Munster.

Tldr Munster went REEEEEEEEEEEE

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Couto Misto was a microstate in the Iberian peninsula that existed as an independent polity for nearly a thousand years.

>>2693684
I have spent some time in Afghanistan since the 2001 invasion. I befriended one of the locals, and asked him about the greek past of Afghanistan, and basically they're not too interested in that, it was a long time ago and more importantly they were not muslim. So they just dont give a fuck, what happens when the locals find an old burial or other site from antiquity, they loot it for gold and other valuable gems, and figures made of metal are inspected, if they are made of precious
metals, 99% of the time they get melted down, if its lets say copper they just throw it away or maybe sell it for a few afghanis to a dealer who will put it up for auction on ebay.
some of the statues he showed me had been busted up pretty bad, I imagine because it depicted buddhist or greece imagry.
imagine the art and culture and maybe even knowledge lost because some shepherd found a site realized what it was and looted it, priceless artifacts gone forever. it made me so mad, thats why I dont feel bad about artifacts being held for safe keeping in private collections.

>>2696663
hahaha my Norman forefathers did this.

Now tell us about the Battle of Dyrrhacium...

>>2696201
Pskov>Vilnius>Novgorod>Kiev>Moscow>dirt>dogshit>Warsaw

>>2696932
And then people wonder why Europeans hoarded so many artifacts from over the world in their museums.

>>2698827
>All over the world
Precisely.

Not everyone did the same thing.

>>2693950
t. moskvoblyad

>>2698840
Idk man, it isnt just the ME where retarded dictators dont give a shit abiut historical artifacts, or even destroys them because they want to create a new age.

>>2698860
AFAIK Southeast Asians aren't running about destroying their own shit.

Meanwhile the Soviets and the Chinks just destroyed minor objects and sites and for like a span of a few years. But when faced by iconic locations or previously hallowed sites they freeze up, especially due to peasant superstition (which was heavily the case in China).

>>2698860
Dictators are the ones who care about history. Saddam invested heavy money into archeological research and even had the zikkurat of Ur restored, then after (((democracy))) arrived it all went to shit.

>>2698860
>Everyone must see history the same way the west does.
Lol.

Western Museum and Preservation culture is basically descended from (perceived) sense of loss of classical knowledge created by the """""Dark Ages""""".

Others really didn't share that considering not everyone was fucking under Rome.

>>2698871
In Mexico, they tend to completely level old temple sites to make area for buildings.

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>>2689347
The Cocos Islands (now a territory of Australia) was first colonised by an english merchant who with 40 women tried to create his own private harem island.

Was eventually overthrown by the women after they got some assistance from some passing sailors

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>>2699994
Why are the Dutch so jingoistic?