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Tell me more about the Philippine-American war. And why isn't

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Tell me more about the Philippine-American war.

And why isn't it really discussed that much?
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>>2672273
It was a very one sided short war that the US dominated with superior everything.
Also we don't like to talk about the war crimes. Because they didn't happen.
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>>2672296

crimes?

give me a break
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>>2672296
wat ar wor crayms?
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Spain fell apart so America swooped in and assumed protection over their few remaining colonies before someone else did.

It is rarely discussed because there is nothing to discuss, the options were either to defend whatever tyrannical corrupt regime arose in the Phillipines, allow Japan to take them over or for America to do so who, while not the epitome of moral righteousness, are not quite as bad as the others.
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>>2672339
kinda glad they did. at least most of us can speak English because of that. though, it would be interesting if some other countries were the ones to annex the Philippines. I heard Germany was eyeing for it.
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Early American imperialism is learning from the mistake of allowing Cuba autonomy by installing unpopular dictators in every Latin American country.
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>>2672311

so. much. rape. though.
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https://youtu.be/LgdlEfQQEhU

The irony of our national anthem really stings. Not only is it a song about fighting off invaders, written by colonizers, but it was translated each time the country was taken over.

Tbqh things might have been better if the Japs stayed longer, minus the Nanjing-esque hijinks they did during their stay
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>>2672339
>Spain fell apart so America swooped in and assumed protection over their few remaining colonies before someone else did.

Is this how Americans justify their colonial land-grab? Spain did nothing of the sort, and American domination was no better for the natives.
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>>2672273
America kicked the Spaniards out of the Philippines during the Spanish-American war. At first the Filipinos liked the Americans, but when it became clear the Americans were just replacing the Spanish, they became pissed.

Neither side talks about it because we became good friends between then and WWII.
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>>2672273
>And why isn't it really discussed that much?
Because America was literally the bad guy and clashes with America's historical narrative that it was the champion of freedumbs.
>Ally with Filipino revolutionaries and topple Spain off the Philippines.
>Pretend you didn't ally with them afterwards ,ignore that they are establishing a republic, and snob them off post-war negotiations with Spain in Paris.
>Spain sells the Islands too you as if it never lost it and then invade them aftewards. Topple a republic, and then take over as new colonial masters.

The irony was not lost on the Europeans who frequently had to receive lip service from America about "tyranny of monarchs" or "imperialism" and how America was "a city on a hill." Not much the UK (who supported the yanks) but much on France, Germany, Italy, and the Hapsburgs.
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>>2672339
>the options were either to defend whatever tyrannical corrupt regime arose in the Phillipines
>First republic in Asia.
>Even patterned the color scheme of their Flag to the US in gratitude for initial help.
Good job.
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>>2672615
noice
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>>2672814
>Spain did nothing of the sort, and American domination was no better for the natives.

No, it objectively was better than pretty much any large-scale colonial venture of the time except maybe Japan's occupation of Korea. Especially much better than the Spanish.

This was mostly because the Americans had no use for Philippine resources, instead using the islands as a base. So no purely extraction-based policies. The US did invest in local development, to varying degrees. In some, such as infrastructure, the advances were fairly modest. In others though, such as education (including higher education), there were massive gains, and this bought America quite a bit of good will with the average Filipino.

Within a few years of the war ending, there was a Filipino legislature with much actual power, and in 1935 they were granted self-rule with the promise of independence in ten years. It was commonplace to see Filipinos in senior leadership positions, something unheard of in the Spanish occupation. The Americans also set up the University of the Philippines and other useful institutions, institutions the Spanish hadn't bothered to set up.
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>>2674234
>The Americans also set up the University of the Philippines and other useful institutions, institutions the Spanish hadn't bothered to set up.
>Spain.
>Not bothered to set up University in the Philippines.
The top schools in the country are literally Catholic universities set up by Spain.

UP is good for nothing but producing leftists and SJWs
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>>2674234
They also did a lot against Phillipino overpopulation
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>>2672273
A few thousand US marines got macheted and thats fairly embarrassing

This was still in the days before the US military was particularly competent
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>>2674247
>producing leftists and SJWs
Well it is an American university.
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>>2673080
That's pretty cool.
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>>2672273
>phillipines want independence
>America supports this
>America gets phillipines in the Spanish-American war which they escalated
>America now puts down any attempts of independence
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>>2673080
>first republic in Asia
What is the shogunate, what are all the colonies from there before
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>>2674563
>shogunate
>republic
nigger you fucking what
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>Two Guerrilla wars
>Vietnam war
>lost miserably
>won't shut up about it

>Philippine-American war
>won effortlessly
>hide it like a great shame
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>>2672273
could the Philippines have won their independence from Spain without US support,anyway?
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>>2674563
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>>2675102
Germany & Japan both eagerly eyed the islands to expand their holdings in the Pacific which was one of the main considerations in the US ultimately deciding to annex the territory. If the Spanish lost control it's likely another imperial power would have stepped right in
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>>2674577
Was it a monarchy
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>>2677158

Yes, since the emperor was still nominally the head of state. He was just much less powerful than the shoguns.
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>>2672273

> muh isolationism
> muh innocent
> my victim of aggressors
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>>2677166
>>2677166
I mean in the boshin war, where you had a separate shogunate and imperial Japan
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>>2674234
>This was mostly because the Americans had no use for Philippine resources
pretty sure >we took rubber from the Phillppines
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