Mediterranean Looks

>>2665446
None.
Also "mediterranean looks" aren't a thing.
Near easterners don't look like greeks, nevermind like italian and spaniards.

>>2665446
Paintings and sculptures from that period.

Greeks have received some Slavic and Turkish admixture.
Italians have now a fair deal of Gothic, Lombard and Norman genes.
Spaniards are much more African, Jewish and Arabian than they were in Roman times.
Near Easterners have absorbed plenty of Arabian, African and Mongol DNA.

I'm probably missing some 'contributions'.

>>2665472
>tens of thousands of invaders having a noticeable genetic impact on millions of natives
Hasn't this meme been debunked by the recent genetic studies?

>>2665498

It's an Amerifat pretending the wipeouts the Redskins got from some plagues and fighting each other along with fighting Whitey goes for every other invasion.

>>2665468

>Doesn't show them

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>>2665468

>>2665785
This

>>2665461
A lot of near easterners could pass as Greeks though

Prepare for swarms of conspiracy theorists posting decaying images of idealized and stylized people

>>2665811
Can confirm.

Been mistaken as a Greek by actual Greeks.

t. Iranian

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>>2665468
http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/

Ancient mobility is the norm, not the exception.

Italians acquired admixture during the Roman era since there was no social barrier to gene flow. Same for Greeks. Whether that means they look different or not is another question since they also were subject to gene flow from non-Mediterranean Europe.

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>>2665472
>Italians have now a fair deal of Gothic, Lombard and Norman genes

So we wuz white? Don't know if I should take this as a compliment or not. Usually people say the opposite.

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>>2665934

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>>2665446

It can be tracked through y-chromosomes and mitochondrial dna

Romans probably looked more or less like northern Italians of today (southern italians got rape-babied by the arabs).

>>2665472
>>2665934
>>2665938
Light features among Italians aren't because of Germanic admixture. To my knowledge modern European race was begot from olive skinned, light eyed Anatolians mating with indigenous brown eyed, pale skinned Europeans. Southern Europeans likely always had a visible minority of light phenotype individuals just like Northern Europe has a visible minority of olive skinned individuals.

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>>2665955

You got it backwards. Indigenous Europeans were very dark at least in southern and western Europe. They had very dark brown skin based on all we know about skin color genetics. They had light eyes though.

Light skin is an adaptation to agricultural life for the most part.

>>2665950
Southern Italy is hotter and sunnier than the North. Why is it so hard for people to understand that people in the Southern end of the peninsula there are organically darker than people in the North of the peninsula?

>>2665978
imo the sketch you posted doesn't look very dark brown.

>>2665985

It's an artistic reconstruction. Until we clone one we can't really know for sure how dark they were but they lacked the West Eurasian(SLC24A5) and European(SLC45A2) specific mutations for light skin which are responsible for the bulk of variation in skin color among Europeans and West Asians.

So they were considerably darker than the majority of Indians who have at least the West Eurasian one even if heterozygously.

>>2665985
they look pretty dark to me

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>>2665934
Yes, the Romans were pretty much Black compared to Italians. They had dark skin, dark hair and dark hair. Sorry cracka but you ain't Black like them.

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>>2666145

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>>2665950
This

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>>2666149

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>>2666152

>>2666068
They look rather dark in a "tanned and hideously dirty" way, but they don't actually look brown. Perhaps it's the facial features.

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>>2666158

>>2666158
Apollo was hung like a mosquito, how did he bag all those bitches.

>>2665875
handsome af

>>2665950
>(southern italians are greeks in disguise.)
FTFY

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>>2666166

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>>2666181
Roman ready to give his Gaul slave his BBC.

>>2666184
Do you do this all day?

Just be perverse and gross for effect all day? I imagine you old and used up smoking meth.

Just haunting people with your perversions

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>Until recently, some papers suggested that the distribution of the main L haplogroups in North Africa was mainly due to trans-Saharan slave trade.[21] However, in September 2010, a thorough study of Berber mtDNA by Frigi et al. concluded that most of L haplogroups were much older and introduced by an ancient African gene flow around 20,000 years ago.[22]

>Theories from some studies propose to corroborate that the Lebanese trace genetic continuity with earlier inhabitants, regardless of their membership to any of Lebanon's different religious communities today. "The genetic marker which identifies descendants of the ancient Levantines is found among members of all of Lebanon's religious communities"

Pic related, reconstruction based on the body of a Carthaginian aristocrat.

>>2666184
I mean seriously analyze your posts.

You're like a rapist or a flasher.

>>2666184
I mean what kind of person has this shit saved just to wave around in public?

Seriously do you have loved ones?

>>2666193
He looks like Marouane Fellaini

>>2666190
>>2666194
>>2666201
Chill dude these are just pixels

>>2666179
>(southern italians are greeks in disguise.)

This too

>from greek colonies, inb4 muh Aeneas

>>2666217
Naw there are some really real sick fucks who post here

Just nasty

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>>2666190
>>2666194
>>2666201
It's time to accept the Romans were Black, friend.

Pic related, Scipio AFRICANUS. Most famous Black Roman who defeated the Black Hannibal in Africa.

>>2666239
>muh Aeneas
Yes well, the Aeneid is pretty obvious julian propaganda. It's more about how divine the Julian line is than about the founding of Rome.
The actual foundation myth is Romulus and Remus, twin sons of a latin princess and the god Mars, not Aeneas.

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>>2666246
Julius Caesar was Black too. He was said to have BLACK EYES and his bust is Black like Scipio's. 100% African.

>>2665950
>Romans probably looked more or less like northern Italians of today (southern italians got rape-babied by the arabs).
And northern Italians are Visigothic rape babies, Whats your point? they're probably look in between

>>2666298
>northern Italians are Visigothic rape babies
This is right about as false as the southerners are arab rapebabbies bullshit.

I mean fucking shit, there are actual studies about this stuff you know? The last meaningful change in the italian gene pool happened during the late bronze age, when the italics arrived in the peninsula and the greeks started their colonization of the southern coasts.

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>>2665950
>>2666298
Why do you faggots forget central Italy exists? That's where the Latins were from. Central Italy is Tuscany, Umbria, Marche, Latium and sometimes Emilia-Romagna and Abruzzo.

>>2666326
>Why do you faggots forget central Italy exists?
Because it doesn't in this context. Genetically, they're mostly the same as northern italians.

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>>2666350
I would guess southern Italians are different from the rest because of their lack of Indo-European blood and strong Greek and Albanian influences (read about the Messapians if you are confused about this one).

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>>2666405

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>>2666246
>hur dur Scipio was named Africanus because he was black
>it definitely wasn't a cognomen given as an honor after the second punic war because he conquered Africa

Race theory of Ancient peoples is a clusterfuck, and wasn't understood as it was today. Plutarch describes Cato the Elder as having red hair and grey eyes, and we have paintings of dark-skinned Romans. It was actually pretty ethnically mixed.

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>>2666573
REDDISH hair, not red hair. I hate when people mix this shit up. "Sufflavus" doesn't mean "blonde" either because they never used that term to describe the hair color of northern barbarians.

Regardless, red hair is not that rare in Italy. I can see around 10 redheads in both of those collages:

>>2665934
>>2665938

Light eyes are common too. 30-34% of Italians are light eyed (blue, grey, green).

>>2666641
What is that map represting?

>>2666647
http://redheadmap.com/

>>2666805

Why does Finland look evil?
Dindu nuffin

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>>2666145

It's must be depressing for Niggers that they don't have any civilizations to brag about like everybody else who isn't an Abbo. Egypt and Nubia don't count.

>>2665950

>t. Nordnigger

>>2666899
Duchy of Finland had been a part of Russian Empire until 1917.

>>2665498
Please share those studies.

Y chromosome is not that important in defining racial characteristics you know? Y chromosome studies don't prove that you are a member of a race, they just show which regions have what kind of distribution of Y chromosomes.

Ethnicity is a pretty recent construct, in old times no one had problems taking women from other tribes, they even took pride in doing that because they were "converting" people.

>>2665875
guy on the left looks stereotypically "white-white" (note the cheekbones and jaw)... guy on the right looks like an Arab

>>2666982

Played no role in WW1 though

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>>2665934
>>2665938
>Italian athletes are not Italians

Really makes you think

>>2665446
Having looked through the pictures in this thread, my (obviously very tentative) conclusion is that the Mediterranean type of 2000 years ago no longer exists. The images show people who had northwest European-style bone structure (cheekbones and jaw) and what we now think of as Mediterranean hair and skin hue. I can't think of a people nowadays who look like this.

>>2667013
http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v25/n5/full/ejhg201718a.html

>>2667055
You know that basically supports what I said right? 0.2 to 14.4% Slavic origin, they are refuting that Peloponnese were extinct and replaced.

>>2667044
That's 286 out of the 314 athletes that participated in the olympics. The ones that weren't included were people of foreign ancestry. They are from all over the country, so it's the real average of Italy. Sorry, but Italians aren't all swarthy Sicilians like American movies and series led you to believe.

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>>2667047
>The German art historian, Winckelmann [16] discusses extensively the Greek beauty ideal. The low forehead, luxurious curly hair, straight nose in continuity to the nose, large eyes and ovoid faces described by the author are typical of Southern Europe, contrasting with the small eyes, high forehead, angular features and straight hair typical of more northern climes. Winckelmann observes the similarity of modern Greeks, particularly from the islands to the classical forms, relating in particular that the Greek women of Chios are the “most beautiful of the human race.”

>pol going we nords wuz romans n greekz

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I think Near Easterners haven't changed too much. The Dura-Europos synagogue frescoes look more or less like modern day Near-East people.

And considering what we know from ancient dna samples of people from the yamna culture and neolithic farmers who were largely brown-eyed. It looks like some populations got lighter rather than darker.

>>2667519
Yes, there is little correlation between pigmentation and genetics. It has more to do with latitude. Light eyes and light hair get selected at a higher rate in colder climates because they are advantageous to those regions.

>>2667149
northcucks btfo

>>2667015

>this is pol

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>>2666957
terroni niggers btfo

>>2665446
Why wouldn't they OP? As long as trade was there - so was the exchange of looks. They also live around the same alt/lat lines.

I don't think there's any reason that suggests North African and Low Europeans don't look the same. (excluding Egyptians, Middle East and Turks due to their nearness to Asia)

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>>2667015
>guy on the left looks stereotypically "white-white"

Well, he's made of marble.

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Italians, Greeks, Levantines, Egyptians, Northwest Africans, Anatolians, all pretty much looked the same as they do today.

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>>2668810
>Italians, Greeks pretty much looked the same as they do today.

In short, Roman wuz white?

>>2668835
When you specifically limit yourself to a northern region, sure.

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>>2666145
Except that these are egyptians, retarded nigger.

>>2668896
Except that's a 19th century French forgery, you retarded nigger.

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>>2668852
Tuscany is central Italy. They are lighter than some northerners like Emilians and Ligurians though. Lightest people in Italy are Friulians, Trentini, Venetians, Aostans and Piemontese in that order though. Lombards are surprisingly dark despite the meme about them being Germanic.

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>>2668896

>>2665472
Greeks have no Turkish mixture, that's a nordicuck meme . The reverse is true: some Turks have some Greek mixture

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>>2665446

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Greeks have always been swarthy though with a fair element as well. Nothing changed . Nordicucks need to die

>>2665498
Well i'm a Spaniard. I'm about 10% percent North African. My White Cuban friend is 15 percent Arabic and North African. And my Swedish and Spanish friend is 10 percent Berber as well. A significant amount of Andalusian Spaniards are partially Moorish. It's maybe not that noticeable because moors kind of look like southern Spaniards,

Wait wait wait. So what narrative is being pushed in this thread? We wuz whites? We invented errything?

>>2667015
Nice critical analysis lad

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UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDE WE FALL

>>2669364
-t /pol/

It's clearly nordcucks false flagging and blaming it on other races. As if you nord cucks couldn't get any lower.

>>2669368
>false flagging and blaming it on others
That's half of /his/ on a regular basis, unfortunately.

>>2669364
Good cringe material

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>>2669364
>It's an "American thinks Europe's Nationalists = White Nationalism when most of Europe's Nationalists stop at their own countries." episode.

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Lads, lads, most of the pics posted here, show the men being much darker than the women, this is a tradition dating back to minoan times, the minoans did it on purpose, bear in mind that. Not disproving that they were indeed brown, which i don't mind, im not a nordcuck.

t. studied art history

>>2669934
This, hearing about white nationalism makes me cringe so hard, most of the time "White nationalism" is celtic crosses, mixed with Scandinavian paganism and muh blue eyes bullshit that pisses me off to no end.

>>2669957
Fuck you though lol

100 years ago Irish and Italians weren't real Americans yet lol. Catholic shitbag foreigners.

Then +++dark people+++ started calling everyone lighter than they were white.

It stuck. And those Italians and Irish people? They never bought or owned no slaves for the most part.

But in 2017 everyone lighter than a darky in America is too white.

It's bogus

>>2669937
Aristotle actually specifically comments on women having much lighter skin than men, so it wasn't just artistic license.

>Too black a hue marks the coward, as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians, and so does also too white a complexion, as you may see from women. So the hue that makes for courage must be intermediate between these extremes. A tawny colour indicates a bold spirit, as in lions... A pale hue signifies cowardice, for that is the colour one turns in terror.

>>2669937
Did those the women do hard labor outside in the sun?

>>2669970
And what exactly are you trying to say? I don't understand you at all.

>>2669988

>Aristotle actually specifically comments on women having much lighter skin than men, so it wasn't just artistic license.

Well im sure that the reason the minoans chose to represent men as darker had to do with what >>2669991 said, which i agree with. Im sure they didn't just decide one day to do for no reason.

>>2665875

subtle but crucial difference between the two are the more delicate features on the statue like the cheek bones and the eybrow ridges, which are typical of northern and western europeans, but that could be attributed to just making the statue look nice

>>2667015

He looks very european, find me an arab who looks like him I dare you

>>2665472
>Italians have now a fair deal of Gothic, Lombard and Norman genes.

No they dont, they its negligible at best. What you're saying is an assumption / hypothesis based on history, but the science shows its wrong

>>2665505
>Amerifat

very much this, its americans who think that every single nationality is magically "a mix" of any ethnicity of any lone trader who happened to cross the border for a few minutes one day. I seriously don't even think many of them think long enough to reallise that people actually have to reproduce with one and other in order to "mix"

>>2665981

its not to do with skin colour more facial morphology. The difference in skin tones between even northern and southern europeans is massivley massivley overstated. And the idea that scandinavians are pale or the lightest skinned europeans is a complete burgerlard myth, scandinavians are probably the tannest europeans

>>2665955

olive skinned doesn't mean brown or dark. Like a lot of italians or spaniards you can be both pale and olive skinned. Likewise you can be very dark but not olive skinned like scandinavians when they tan

>>2665978
>>2666015

They were dark skinned with blond hair and blue eyed, but they had dark golden-orange-bronze complexions. That is still seen in european blondes to this day, they are just lighter skinned then their original ancestors because obviously they have genes from the lighter skinned farmers as well

>>2668896

are they germanic people though? the spears and the clothing checks out

>>2668901

gonna need a source for that claim, afrocentrists claim every single artefact and depiction of romans that don't look like niggers are 19th century forgeries

>>2669021

germanic people aren't especially light skinned for europeans, thats more slavs and western europeans

>>2669317

those guys aren't swarthy at all for europeans, hell I can show you pictures of swedes who are much darker

>>2669937

actually funnily enough, its recently been discovered that the minoans, in particular, were closely related to northern europeans

>>2669970
>100 years ago Irish and Italians weren't real Americans yet lol.

Do you think its because they actually were foriegners back then where as now they've been in america for generations and so are actually american and not irish or italian at all? '"Italian""" americans don't speak italian, "irish" americans have nothing to do with ireland or irish culture apart from their artificial autistic larping identity, and always have other ancestry, usually only a minority of their ancestry is irish

>>2669317
>this
>swarthy
They're literally pink skinned you stupid fuck.

>>2669970

>>2669970

>100 years ago Irish and Italians weren't real Americans yet lol. Catholic shitbag foreigners.
And 200 years ago they were.

>>2670157

Northern Europeans had only began to exist at the beginning of the Minoan civilization.

>>2670174

whats your point, genetically speaking the ancient minoans were closely related to northern europeans

>>2670186
"No."

>>2670186

Northern Europeans are a mestizo people between the steppe descended Corded Ware and the local neolithic cultures. This mixing had barely started by 2600bc. How did these mestizos teleport all the way to Minoa?

>>2670157
Northen Neolithic Europeans, AKA Sardinians, read The article again

>>2670157
Why are you lying, nordcuck?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization#Genetics_studies

>For a 2013 mtDNA study, researchers analyzed DNA from Minoan skeletons sealed in a cave on Crete's Lasithi Plateau between 3,700 and 4,400 years ago; other Greek, Anatolian, western and northern European samples, and North African and Egyptian samples.[110][111] They compared the skeletal mitochondrial DNA (which is passed on in the maternal line) with a sample of 135 modern and ancient populations from Europe and Africa. The researchers found that the Minoan skeletons were genetically very similar to modern-day Europeans and especially close to modern-day Cretans, particularly those from the Lasithi Plateau. Genetically similar to Neolithic Europeans, the Minoan skeletons were distinct from Egyptian or Libyan populations.[112] "We now know that the founders of the first advanced European civilization were European," said study co-author George Stamatoyannopoulos, a human geneticist at the University of Washington. "They were very similar to Neolithic Europeans and very similar to present day-Cretans."

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>>2670168
Is this swarthy enough for you?

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>>2665785
Sulla was red-blond,[34] blue-eyed, and had a dead-white face covered with red marks. Plutarch, the ancient historian, notes that Sulla considered that "his golden head of hair gave him a singular appearance".

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>>2670327
Yeah, sounds like a ginger to me. Look at how many red haired Italians there are in these collages, oops:
>>2665934
>>2665938
>>2668835

Another famous Italian historical figures with red hair:

>Christopher Columbus
>Antonio Vivaldi
>Ugo Foscolo
>Vittorio Alfieri
>Simonetta Vespucci
>Rosso Fiorentino
>Giovanni Bellini
>Giuseppe Garibaldi
>etc

>>2670282
That's just mtDNA so it doesn't tell us much (the whole of Western Eurasia basically has the same maternal ancestors) but the idea that the Minoans will look "Northern European" is pretty extraordinary. I think the guy actually read the same study you posted and misinterpreted the results showing that the mtDNA was similar to various European populations.

If we ever get ancient Minoan autosomal DNA, they will probably be in the range between between modern Sardinians and Middle Easterners more or less. Ancient Crete was settled well in the Neolithic (few Paleolithic findings) and had more ties with the Aegean, Anatolia and the Near East than maybe even the Balkan mainland until the Bronze Age so I'd be surprised if they had any particular strong connections to phenomena going on in mainland Europe before the Mycenaean takeover.

In general, Sardinia is basically Neolithic European in ancestry and the Bronze Age Levant is pretty similar overall to some modern Levantine populations so the ancient inhabitants of the area looked pretty similar to those.

The Northern European phenotypical package, at least in most of Northern Europe, seems to be Bronze Age at best.

>>2665446
WE HAVE THIS THREAD EVERY DAY, HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT BE BORED OF ARGUING ABOUT THIS?

>>2670168
Nordicucks confirmed for delusional .

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>>2666145
>egyptian fayum mummy portraits
>roman citizens
Niggers are really dumb.

>>2666641
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Man are always tanned.

>>2667044
>>2670143
Could they also be Gallic? Galatians made up a big portion of the Ptolemaic army

>>2665461
Sure they do. Been mistaken for Spaniard or Italian all the time when travelling.
t. Jew

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>>2670448
Of course.
Imagine staying your whole life under the mediterranean sun.
Even the whitest of the albinos would be tanned.

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>>2670481
Woman are always light skin tho, because they needed to be pure and did not needed to spend the whole day working outside.

>>2670327
>Gives an example of an important Roman who looks northern european
>It's Sulla: one of the most evil men in the history of the republic, who's reforms arugably contributed to the fall of the republic.

You literally could not have picked a worse example.

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>>2670516
>looks northern european

His eyes are too big for that to be true. Nordcucks have small eyes. Seriously fuck off with this "every light haired and light eyed person is Nordic" bullshit. 10% of Italians are blonde and 30-34% are light eyed. Percentage of red hair varies greatly depending on the study though. There is one that puts it as only 0.6% and this other one in my pic where it's 10x literally higher than that. I'd say both of them are inaccurate and the percentage of red hair for the entire country is more like 3% though.

>>2665505

Americans don't speak Native American languages.

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>>2670516
Made me giggle.

>>2670448

Women having noticeably lighter skin than men is a showing of sex appeal. Lighter skin is regarded around the world as more desirable for at least females.

>>2670423

None of the portraits are close enough to Niggers. The're too light in skin.

>>2665446
In regards to skin color, this tends to stay about the same throughout the eras, because the factor that is latitude selects for certain gradientes of melanin.

>>2670481
By definition, albinos cannot become tanned.

>>2671137
It's not entirely true. Suppose a population from a northern latitude who has quite fair skin when untanned moves to southern latitudes. They won't die off. Similarly, a dark-skinned population in more northern latitudes can thrive as well depending on their diet.

Southern Europeans are much lighter-skinned than Middle Easterns in unexposed skin despite inhabiting similar latitudes.

>>2671205

The amount of solar radiation you get isn't just a matter of latitudes you know

>>2670143
They're 19th century French graffiti.

>>2671302
Sure, there's diet, coverage and albedo too. But in the regions we are talking about, these aren't really factors that made a differance.

These were just about all farmers subsisting on mostly grains, snow and ice would be rare, and settled peoples don't tend to live beneath the forrest's canopy.

>>2665446
Well.
Personally my mother's side of the family comes from the area in South western Spain where there's an unusual pocket of North Italian/Swiss Genes swimming around while my father's side of the family is more traditional stock of Galician, a pinch of celt and suebi for memes but mostly indoeuropean.

So I don't really match up in either area, im alittle taller than everyone in Galicia and beja, palest person in the family, only one who grows red streaks of red in their beard , got those green blue eyes, and my hair bleaches blonde in the summer.

My fiancès family (a Taiwanese family) say I look more German than anything else.

>>2670192

"Yes"

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22527821
>The ancient Minoan DNA was most similar to populations from western and northern Europe.

fucking faggot

>>2670282
>http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22527821
>The ancient Minoan DNA was most similar to populations from western and northern Europe.

pay your debts

>>2671580
Yes, in the NEOLITHIC Northen Europe

>>2670193
>How did these mestizos teleport all the way to Minoa?

why would they have to have migrated from northern europe to minoa in order to be related to minoans? Your arab genetics have rendered your brain ineffective at logic

>>2671477
>My fiancès family (a Taiwanese family) say I look more German than anything else.

Gooks know nothing about these things, I'm pretty sure you still have those particularly recognisable Spanish facial features

>>2671586

ok? so what? Thats the majority of northern european ancestry

>>2671320

wheres your proof of that. Are you saying that because your an afrocentrist or because the people in the fresco don't look like they walked out of yemen like you and your arabian ancestors

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>>2671602
No, it isn't.

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>>2671576
>>2671580
>>2671602
This says pretty much the same thing as it does in the wiki article:

>The researchers found that the Minoan skeletons were genetically very similar to modern-day Europeans The researchers found that the Minoan skeletons were genetically very similar to modern-day Europeans and especially close to modern-day Cretans, particularly those from the Lasithi Plateau. Genetically similar to Neolithic Europeans, the Minoan skeletons were distinct from Egyptian or Libyan populations.

Not sure where did the retards at BBC get "northern and western European" from that.

There is another interesting line I forgot to quote though:

>However, the findings by Stamatoyannopoulos' team are contradicted by several other previous and subsequent genetic studies, which found that ancient Minoans had largely Middle-Eastern maternal genetic lineages (from populations in contemporary Iraq, Syria and Turkey) and "the female [Minoan genetic] component is heavily influenced by Asia and the Middle East as opposed to Europe."[113][114][115] Stamatoyannopoulos's team did not analyze paternal DNA, acknowledging that previous research found Middle Eastern genetic roots for the ancient Minoans' paternal and maternal lines.

>>2670327
>ginger meds don't exist

>>2671601
Eh, maybe. Most people tend to place me as an Italian or Swiss, only other person who ever said I looked German was some German exchange student from Bavaria, he asked if I was a swabian


And that was before I ever knew about the 'Germanic Galician' meme

>implying this is ppl from Nordic countries shilling all this anti-med stuff

It's just Americans being retarded.

itt no one understands that people of the same region and even the same genetics can have various phenotypes.

I have seen literal sibling pairs from various combinations (usually mestizo-white but also Sicilian-Greek) where one is short, dark-haired, dark-eyed, person with medium brown skin, and the other is fair with chestnut hair, hazel eyes, and an average height.

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>>2671652
>>2671602
This, Neolithic Scandis were not like modern day ones

>>2665472
Spaniards in Andalusia are at most 10% berber genetically. Anywhere else the Moorish influence on their DNA is negligible. Less memes please.

>>2668640
Underrated post.

>>2671477
Red stands of Hair in beard.

Hair that bleaches blonde in the Summer.

Green and blue eyes.

You're a traffic light in disguise admit it.

>>2672692
I'VE BEEN FOUND OUT!

>>2670116
^
Here you faggot
>>2667752

>>2669957
Hey faggot, our Founders specifically stated that the US was for white people. Eat shit

>>2671667

gingerism is mediterrranean which is why it exists in its highest proximities among predominantly dark haired populations

>>2671163

albino doesn't necessarily mean 0 skin pigment, some non-albinos can be even paler then some albinos. But the sun is too damaging to albinos for them to be able to spend enough time in it to tan. Some of the non-white ones get freckles though or have slightly darker skin then white albinos

>>2670541
>Nordcucks have small eyes

Not neccessarily, the baltic phenotype is large eyed and is present throughout scandinavia and northern europe

>>2670448

not at all, lots of italians and greeks have pale skin, but they can probably tan in the right weather

>>2674436
>large eyed

No, it's mongoloid eyed

>>2674465
>>2674436
Okay guys this isn't pol

>>2666170
If you had a donkey dick odds are you had donkey brains as well.

vat about Persians ehbuddy

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>>2670541
>>2674465
There are a lot of germanic, specially nordic people with eyes like pic related. Edie Falco and Jake Gillenhaal are other examples of nords with that specific type of big eyes.

Here comes Johnny Yen again
With the liquor and drugs
And the flesh machine
He's gonna do another striptease
Hey man where'd you get that lotion?
I been hurting
Since I bought the gimmick
About something called love
Yeah something called love
That's like hypnotizing chickens
Well I am just a modern guy
Of course I've had it in the ear before
'Cause of a lust for life
'Cause of a lust for life
I got a lust for life

Romans thought white Europeans were stupid and uncivilized (well because they were back then) and that darker the skinned people were smarter

>>2678764
Really made me think...

>>2665461
I met an iranian guy once, his facial features were very european, the only thing that made him stand out was that his skin color was a bit brownish

>>2665950
Quite the opposite

North Italy got goth'd, south Italy is the pure Italy

look at the portraits of pompeii

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>>2679137
>tfw you will never as handsome as Al Pacino

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Thoughts?

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>>2679234
Fuck one of the heads was flipped.

Anyways a few drawfags in /ic/ were copying statues a while ago, thought I share something.

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>>2679234

>>2665934
I am from Spain and most of them could pass as spaniards without a problem but idk how greeks, southern french etc. look.

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>>2678697

They're not that different from Bronze ones.

>>2670567
No one is saying Egyptians are black. They are they own thing, closely related to Semitics, Cushitics and lybians.

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>>2681166

They're Natufian or close. With ones down south having more East African ties.

>>2666805
This was a good series, I loved little nods on the map too.

>https://moco-choco.com/2014/04/18/true-colors-of-ancient-greek-and-roman-statues/

Got my noggin joggin'.

Damn this topic reeks of WE WUZ.
Nigga who cares. Those people have been dead for millennia now. People migrate, move around assimilate and shit.

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>>2678758
>Jake Gillenhaal
He's swarthy and dark haired though

If south europeans were WEWUZing like northern ones are we would be using him as proof that scandinavians are Mediterranean

>>2666326
abruzzo is south italy