What's your opinion of colour blind casting in historical shows?

The term "Black Irish" was coined for a reason.

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>>2664944
>people believe this

It's a standard for stage (good pleb filter for autistics on 4chan), it's new for TV and film though, I'm in two minds

>>2664943
On the one hand I want romans to have a British accent, on the other I want them to speak Latin with English Sub, unfortunately I do not have the wealth to finance such a show

Lol op where did you even find such a thing?

>>2664963
Theatre is limited in other ways so I can hardly complain, but when you put hours and hours into designing a set black people will ruin the immersion unless we're in an islamic empire

>>2664943
Hahaha fukken lol did they have to give him straight hair he looks ridiculous

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>>2664943
Hehehe they fucked up putting him in such an obvious wig

>>2664943
No problem with OP's pic given that it is just a nigger playing another kind of nigger.

>>2664943
WE

>>2665014
Oi baggorah dis is anti-irish racism tis another famine!!

Mods! Mods protect us from the vile nazis!

Go back to pol!

>>2665011

He is kind of pretty but they should at least have given him some facial hair kek

'Color-blind' only goes one way since you can't cast a white man as Mansa Musa.

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>>2664967
RTÉ, the national television that everyone has to actually pay for

have another

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoOSGweEzNs

>>2665053
Oh haha it's a theme is it?

And you HAVE to pay for this? Oh cultural Marxism is so fucking sick. They just delight in their own perversions.

>>2665068
it's that or they send their goons and you get a court summons or go to jail aye

state TV was a mistake

>>2664943
I don't even care anymore. I mean it's not as if they're even trying to get stuff historically accurate in the first place.

>>2665068
Haha and the sick fucks behind it know, they KNOW that it BOTHERS people and that's why they do it.

They do it to twist and needle at cultures all across the globe. And if you admit to feelind uncomfy or you don't WANT to watch your heroes get blacked they throw a shut down word at you.

It's so sick haha

>>2664943
>What's your opinion of colour blind casting in historical shows?
Not a thing. I'll believe they're actually casting colour blind when I see ahistorical black baddies and ahistorical white good guys. Oh, and asians being casted at all.

It's racism.

How many Asian monarchs are played non-Asians?

How many Sub-Saharan monarchs are played by non-blacks?

How many Australian Aborigines are played by non-Aborigines?

Yet we're supposed to accept this?

>>2665364
It's just a tv show

How interested in ancient Irish myth were you an hour ago before you saw the thread?

So don't trip out

>>2665364
>How many Egyptian monarchs are played non-Egyptians?
Almost all.
>How many Asian heroes are played by non-Asians?
A significant amount
>How many Native Americans are played by non-Natives?
Fucking loads
>How many Arabs are played by non-Arabs?
A lot in significant roles

>>2665364
>>2665381
ethnic characters played by white characters is stupid crap too, "they don't look right" is good enough a reason, scream racism all you want

I watched an old movie with a middle eastern sultan played by a mexican with a mexican accent. it was pretty funny. I guess people from the 50s just have no concept of the difference between mexicans and arabs.

>>2665378
It's just a tv show.
Why bother setting it in Ireland and giving them period clothes and swords?
Just give them a knife, jeans and a tshirt. Just film it from your backyard.

I'm not in the least bothered by this.

Fairy tales are liable to find depiction in any number of styles.

>>2664943
When it comes to a production, acting credentials > race. I'd rather have a better actor than one who looks like the person theyre portraying but if you can get both, that's great.

It's also a matter of is it a narrative or a documentary? Documentaries should strive to be as historically accurate as possible while narratives have leeway.

I'm even more incensed with the notion Brian Boru would have access to such a gold crown. RTE is largely shit desu, even Lenny Abrahamson called it totally ruined by mediocrity

>>2665413
This is also the time Ringo Starr played a fucking Mexican gardner with an absolutely awful Mexican accent.

>>2665378
Brian Boru was an historical figure you dolt, there was nothing mythological about him

>>2664943
Accurate representation of Connacht-niggers.

T. O'Neil

>>2664943
>colour blind casting
Top kek, like it's actually colour blindness and not shameless pandering.

No but let's be totally fair here: I don't give a shit if a polish movie has whites cast as non white characters. I don't give a shit if a nigerian movie has niggers cast as white characters. I don't care because it's convenient and familiar to the audience enough that they might not be bothered too much by the inconsistency.
I do give a shit if a polish movie has niggers cast as white characters, because there's no chance in hell that was either convenient for production nor familiar to the audience. It can only be shameless pandering.
OP's scenario, an irish produced movie, clearly falls into the shameless pandering category.

>>2664943
show name?

>>2665442
This
Also Gráinne Mhaol was a native american transwoman.

>>2664943
Bullshit. Shameless pandering and virtue signalling, OR just plain retardation.

For small theatre groups, you can argue that the limited number of actors will have to cover all the roles regardless of age or even sex.

But for film and television? If it were an original character, who cares. But a black high king of Ireland is just wrong.

>>2665431
are you implying the visual aspect of a show isn't important
having everyone be Irish and then throwing in a coal black Nigerian/Brit because you think he can act doesn't benefit the performance, it's ridiculous

>>2665453
Brian O'bamoru: Celtic Lean Sips

>>2665378
I've read a few books on it before. Seems like a stupid excuse for miscasting.

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>>2665381
>>2665406
I think it's pretty obvious that Whites played characters of different races back then because there were no actors of the proper ethnic background at disposal at the time. There's no excuse to do that nowadays. It's just pandering.

Television is for morons anyway who gives a shit

>>2664943
As soon as they have the balls to cast a white man as MLK.

>>2665465
First, the question wasn't about this particular show it was about casting in general and that's what I'm answering.

Secondly, that's not what I implied at all. That said, I've worked in theater for a while so I'm used to casting restrictions leading to more diverse casting.

But again, somebody who looks the part and is a good actor > a good actor > somebody who looks the part. If the production is attempting to be historically accurate, then they should get somebody who fits the role. If not, I'd rather have a good actor.

>>2665508
>who gives a shit about the mob when we live under mob rule
the only reason there is no point giving a shit is because there is no way we can influence the outcome and it is a minor problem, that doesn't mean it is right though

>>2665518
> I'm used to casting restrictions leading to more diverse casting.
well I'm glad you're used to it but I don't particularly care for it

considering it's TRTÉ I can't imagine they had a particularly great pool of actors to choose from so I find it hard to believe this particular African gentleman was chosen by merit of anything but his skin colour to fill some weird quota RTÉ undoubtedly have

>>2665378
>>2665381

Way to not address his argument. Kill yourself.

>>2664943
Silly inclusion for the sake of inclusion. Same reason I dont expect Brian Blessed to play Shaka Zulu or Sun Yat Sen

>>2664943
It's an old tradition not unlike Medieval art of Latins, Saracens, and Blackamoors in contemporary costume and gear portraying ancient Israelites and Greeks.

Historical art is rarely meant for the sake of historical fact, and instead is there to flatter its contemporary audience and connect their society with those of the past. In this case that contemporary audience has an African immigrant minority who they believe should be treated as integrated equals in society.

It's no more ridiculous than seeing King David as a Danish knight or Atilla the Hun as a Golden Horde Khan.

>>2665719
>integrated equals
Exclusive pandering is the exact opposite of both integration (you're singling them out) and equality (you're giving them greater opportunities based on their minority status).
This "colour blind" (as if) casting is just virtue signalling at its finest.

>>2665678
It completely addressed his argument by answering his inane questions you bumfucker

>>2665049
Emma Stone got the part of the asian, and white people have played other races tons of times. Or look at Gods of Egypt. It goes both ways.

>>2665692
he'd make a good zhang fei tbqh

>>2665752
At some fucking point we have to stop saying them and us

>>2665769
>white people have played other races tons of times
Difference being that it's a white production for a white audience with a mostly white casting pool available.
Compare with casting the most likely only nigger actor in Ireland to play an irishman in an irish movie made by irishmen for irishmen.

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>>2665053
Setanta was the original angry hood rat in The Tain, good call and great choreography.

I'm against it when its intent is Europhobic and revisionist in nature. Coming out of Hollywood that's most of the time. When it's just artistic license or due to having no other people available I don't really mind. OP's examples are things i'm against as their intent seems malicious.

>>2665783
Blacks in Ireland make up only 1.4% of the population. Asians make up more by a slight margin of 1.9%.

Brian Boru should have been Asian.

>>2665820
>I'm against it when its intent is Europhobic and revisionist in nature

OP's example is neither. You're retarded if you think there's an evil anti-white agenda behind have a black actor have the role.

>>2665832
Why have a Nigerian play an Irish king in a low budget Irish production? It makes no sense from an artistic or logistical standpoint and comes off as needless tacked on for the sake of diversity.

>>2665832
Whoah now let's not all pretend Europe hasn't been under the multi-cultural diversity is our strength meme for a decade.

For better or worse. Not that the casting choice was malicious in nature but it's clearly forced racial in nature

>>2665832
Favouring a group means disfavouring all others.
A pro nigger agenda can certainly be considered anti white. And anti yellow, etc.
A pro minorities agenda can certainly be considered anti majority.

>>2665839
>>2665839
>It makes no sense from an artistic or logistical standpoint and comes off as needless tacked on for the sake of diversity.

He looks kingly enough to fit the role. It's not like black actors don't exist in Ireland, and it's hardly "low budget."

>>2665866
Wat??

It's some pretty black boy in a bad wig

>>2665866
>He looks kingly enough to fit the role.
And no Irishman looks kingly enough? Ask yourself: What does having him in the role even offer the average Irishman?

>>2664963
I don't mind it on stage because they have far more license to do whatever they want. When TV does it they half ass it. They don't do anything with it. You can't make an Irish King black in an otherwise completely standard tv production.

>>2665873
>What does having him in the role even offer the average Irishman?

Just because they're a public company doesn't mean they're beholden to the Irish public. Art gratia artis. Also going on your line of thinking, how would casting an Irishman somehow be of more benefit to his countrymen?

>>2665890
>how would casting an Irishman somehow be of more benefit to his countrymen?
Gives somebodies family member a job and fame. National pride.

>>2665890
Because Brian Boru was an Irishman and this is Irish art made in Ireland for Irish people with Irish tax monies.

You're just playing devil's advocate.

>>2664943
Would fucc

>>2665893
We Bora Boru now

>>2665895
Oh look it's the cuckold poster being gross and edgy for effect

*yawns*

this >>2665832

Diversity is a reaction against racism, that is overwhelmingly the main motivation.

Leftists and SJWs would be BTFO in a heartbeat if the altright cut out memes like "diversity is white genocide" and just made plain logical arguments.

However neither of them want that, they both SJWs and altright feed off each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc

>>2665905
>Diversity is a reaction against racism
Define "racism." Irish have every right to be nationalistic and ethnocentric.

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>>2665905
>have a preference
>immediately beset by busy bodies trying to make you experience things you would prefer not to

>>2665905
>Reaction against SJWs gives them the enemy they so crave
No future

>>2665891
If it was a matter of national pride and "muh jobs" what's the difference between a black Irishman and a white Irishman in this situation.

>>2665893
This is an ugly can of worms. Imagine if Charlie Chaplin stayed in England because they thought thay only American people could be in American movies made for American people.

>>2665905
Humans are social creatures that socialize via the 5 senses.

That's all that video had to say.

Why is it always a Black?

They could any race, any ethnicity. No it HAS to be Black if male. 100% of the time.

>>2665925
I don't believe Nigerians are Irishman. Also this beats around the obvious fact that the only reason they did this was multicultural propaganda. If it was a Nigerian production about Ireland I wouldn't care. If I was Irish i'd be pissed my history was being portrayed like this. You may as well have a women play the king.

>>2665925
It's not a can of worms.

Did Charlie Chaplain play Uncle Tom? Or did he play Harriet Tubman?

In a nation of black people in content made for them?

At this point we're going in circles. You think the casting choice was BRAVE and PROGRESSIVE XD

We don't feel that way. We don't WANT A RACIAL LESSON IN ALL OUR MEDIA

Sometimes we just want to watch our own shit without someone else inserting their bullshit.

>>2665925
Making Irish King black is worm can opener. Maybe nobody is hurt by casting but it is so noticeably off and ahistorical it makes people think. People look for reasons and if they find one that they think needs to be opposed by muh Ireland for the Irish it's on diversity's head.

>>2665959
The Irish just got out from under the yoke of the British and they can't have a generation or two to sort themselves out before some bastard comes along to call them all racists

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>>2665974
>being oppressed means you can't be racist

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>>2664943
It all hinges on audience
Colour blind casting is perfectly fine in theater and pantomime because the audience is expected to suspend its disbelief in order for the medium by which the show takes place to work (i.e. painted backgrounds ect)
In TV it depends on the seriousness of the historical accuracy. If its loosely based off events then I personally think its fine, however if they painstakingly make it historically accurate in terms of set pieces and plot, only to deliberately cast someone of different ethnicity then it becomes a problem as it undermines all other aspects of the show.
Also I think people should black/white up for roles if they suit that particular role.

>>2665987
Deep derp

>>2665987
You're a racist bro. You are.

>>2665413
In the 50's they didn't have a bunch of fucking Arabs polluting their country so Arabs actors were hard to find.

>>2665769
>ancient egyptians werent white

>>2664943
I'm not going to watch it, but they're free to do what they want. Maybe he was the best actor available.

>>2665378
Irish mythology is very popular even the Japs love it and frequently use elements of it in their games and tv, but at least they respect that any character from Irish history or mythology should be a white person! lrish are literally the whitest people on Earth, it's just pathetic having a west African play their most famous King in a time when the only foreigner was an equally white Norseman.It's also telling Irish kids watching that hey your countries ancient heroes don't look like you, they look like the African kid sitting next to you in class.

>>2666361
Nah m8 am Irish, RTE has an agenda they also made Cu Chulainn a black man.

>>2664944
This is bait right

Colour blind is such a meme. I guess this guy was just great and he just happened to be black, no way they were trying to signal or anything.

God forbid a white person play Frederick Douglas

>>2664943
Why does hollywood only hire whites and nonwhites?

You literally cant. Racism is prejudice plus power. The irish have never been powerful except against potatoes

>>2666204
They were brown.

>>2666467
Kill yourself you baiting faggot.

>>2666467
Pretty convenient argument for colored racists

It's funny because this wouldn't be an issue if the SJWs hadn't unilaterally declared "blackface" to be racist. If they took the time to put the black actors in white makeup as would have been the natural theatrical method of dealing with "colorblind" casting, I doubt anyone other than the most hardcore bigot would care that a black man is playing an Irishman because the real complaint isn't that a cultural icon is being played by a foreigner, it's that the cultural icon is being depicted as a foreigner. A subtle but very important difference.

>>2666537
That would look retarded though, they would have to wear a whole face mask to look right but then it doesnt move.

>>2666537
>just put the nigger in white makeup and he'll look like an Irishman
Wew

>>2666546
>that would look retarded though
More retarded than "Romans" wearing leather armor, or a young actor wearing makeup so he can have the appearance of an old man?

It's all make believe and equally retarded to those knowledgeable enough to know the difference. We just use our imaginations and accept it as the limitations of the medium.

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>>2666557
Exactly!

>>2666587

blimey, is that really a boglodyte?

I want tumblr to go

How come in an industry which is filled with historic inaccuracies and people playing roles outside of their race, people only get angry and climb on their high horse about accuracy when a black man is involved?

>>2665447
>>2665783
>Uses "nigger" profusely while trying to pretend its about historical accuracy or artistic integrity

>>2665496
>Whites played characters of different races back then because there were no actors of the proper ethnic background at disposal at the time.
Actually they have had access to minority actors for quite a long time, its just that for the longest time Hollywood was really fucking racist.

>>2665905
>Leftists and SJWs would be BTFO in a heartbeat if the altright cut out memes like "diversity is white genocide" and just made plain logical arguments.
>Leftists would be so fucked if the right wasn't retarded and basing their entire political platform on bullshit.

>>2666537
>SJWs hadn't unilaterally declared "blackface" to be racist
Do you not remember a single thing about history and why blackface is considered racist? Are you that dense that you think it "muh sjws"?

>>2666635
>Do you not remember a single thing about history and why blackface is considered racist?
Yeah I do actually, because SJWs decided that since one comedic stage tradition that involved wearing black makeup and indulged in ethnic stereotypes was "racist", that means that simply wearing black makeup must be racist too!

Black people couldn't stand being the butt of ethnic jokes so the usual suspects immediately lept to create a world-wide safe space for them by eradicating everything that even slightly resembles it.

>>2666635
t. crypto-SJW

>>2666635
>Actually they have had access to minority actors for quite a long time, its just that for the longest time Hollywood was really fucking racist.
Ah, yes, the same Hollywood predominantly comprised of Jews

>>2664943

>colorblind

It's deliberate wewuz blackwashing. Rewriting history will make sure that the next generation of whites will grow up thinking that Europe was never theirs.

>>2666635
This is 4chan. People will use the word nigger whether they're racist or not.

>>2666674
Yes, folks, because SJWs exist, nothing is ever actually racist and demeaning and at no point in time have black people ever actually been discriminated against. It's all made up. Literally all of it.

>>2666697
Haha whites must be fucking retarded then

>>2666716
I thought nigger on 4chan meant retard, but worse.

>>2666690
It isn't that they themselves decided to be racist. Hollywood has always been beholden to market forces and for decades the market has been racist as hell.

>>2666716
>This is 4chan. People will use the word nigger whether they're racist or not.
I could be wrong but I always figured that was a mote and bailey thing.

>>2666717
What does Sambo acts from the early 20th century being demeaning have to do with actors wearing makeup today?

More to the point though why should anyone care if Blacks feel demeaned by a cultural tradition? Blacks certainly don't care when other races feel demeaned by their cultural traditions.

>>2664943
>Colour blind.
That dude has been put there intentionally, and not because he is a great actor.

>>2664943
All Europe does when promoting shit like this is "We believe blacks have little to no interesting history, so we will just insert them into European history."

They're no worse then anyone they claim to be against because they don't actually care for making interesting African history, they just want the "pride" of pretending to care.

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>>2665832

>no anti-white agenda in media

lol.

>>2666757
Listen very carefully: the fact that some people from [insert group] do shitty things doesn't make it OK when you do those shitty things back at them (or anybody).

I should not need to explain this to an adult.

>>2664943

This shit is very obviously SJW propaganda shit on all levels. I remember dropping that show The Bastard Executioner because there was a fuck ton of random blacks in the backround of Medieval England and Wales as if "oh, this is just how it was"

Anyone claiming this is anything else is obviously on the anti-white side of the argument. Just imagine a movie about Shaka Zulu, and there being a bunch of random white guys walking around in their loin cloths with spears as extras and how fucking retarded that would be and the amount of shit the show would get from black people.

>>2666787
>the fact that some people from [insert group] do shitty things doesn't make it OK when you do those shitty things back at them (or anybody).
Of course it does idiot.
That's some real "if you kill your enemies they win" logic there bucko.

>>2666674
>>2666757
Just one example.

Do you not remember a movie called "Birth of a Nation" where white actors got into blackface and portrayed them as being marauding rapists in order to encourage whites to join a terrorist organization with the explicit aim of murdering, maiming ,and terrorizing minorities?

Now sit down and think. Why might people consider blackface racist?

Also
>Blacks certainly don't care when other races feel demeaned by their cultural traditions.

What in the ever loving shit are you even talking about?

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>>2666752
>I could be wrong but I always figured that was a mote and bailey thing.

It's used remarkably casually here. You can usually tell the difference between the /pol/tards who actually use it as a derisive word and the people who just throw it around because it's 4chan.

>>2665820
>>2665848
>>2666777
>>2666817
This here folks is what we call "projecting". White nationalists and the alt-right consider everything to be an existential struggle between races and ethnicity's and so they assume everyone else must be operating on the same assumptions. While rightists would seek to manipulate public perception different groups, they would naturally consider all actions which would appear contrary to this agenda to be another opposite agenda all on its own. They would have no blacks whatsoever in their movies, televisions or anywhere in media, so their mere presence in media makes them believe there is some kind of culture war against whites being led by some dark cabal of Jews.

Does Ireland have forced diversity quotas like BBC? It's hilarious watching Midsomer Murders when at certain point suddenly every little village in Midsomer has 1-2 Indians/blacks.

>>2666842
So because Birth of a Nation was "racist" that means that a Dutch person dressed as Zwarte Piet is recruiting for the KKK?

>What in the ever loving shit are you even talking about?
Other. Races. Feel. Demeaned. By. Traditions. Of. Black. Culture.
I don't know how much further I can break it down for you buddy.

>>2666878
This here folks is what we call a complete lack of ideological self-awareness.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/14/election-marks-end-americas-racial-detente/
>White people are constantly told to examine their whiteness, not to think of themselves as racially neutral. That they did, but the result was not introspection that led to reconciliation, it was a decision that white people have just as much right to think of themselves as a special interest group as anyone else.

>>2665511
It happened for a play but they changed it after prostests.

>>2666930
We weren't talking about Zwarte Piet, we are talking about AMERICAN MEDIA. You can't change the subject entirely just because you know you are wrong. You also miss the point entirely in that we are explaining to you exactly why blackface isn't used in the american media. Because it was much more than just taking advantage of ethnic stereotypes, it was often used to dehumanize blacks and was often used as a sort of "call to war" in inciting violence.

>Other. Races. Feel. Demeaned. By. Traditions. Of. Black. Culture.
>I don't know how much further I can break it down for you buddy.
So no Proof?

>>2666948
Don't pretend the right didn't start the contemporary trend of identity politics when they spent 8 years claiming the president was a "Muslim Nigger, Socialist, Fascist, Nigger, Communist, Nigger, from Kenya" based almost entirely on the fact that he was black and thus couldn't be trusted. Also when they based an entire platform on "muh illegal Mexicans" when the main wave of illegal immigration is long passed and many of those people are moving back to mexico. Also when rightists started violently attacking anybody with a turban whenever the word "Muslim" is mentioned on the news.

The right focused everything in identity and race and are now acting like the victims when everyone else started acting likewise. People weren't going to take the right's bullshit without giving an equal and opposite reaction.

>>2667042
>we are talking about AMERICAN MEDIA.
Really?
I could have sworn this was a thread about a Nigerian man playing the Irish High King in an Irish television show.

>You can't change the subject entirely just because you know you are wrong.
:3

>So no Proof?
What a ridiculous demand. You realize it just requires a single example of a non-black person feeling demeaned by Black culture to back up my claim right? I could cite myself if I felt inclined to do so.

>>2667042
Lol the left has been pushing the whites are all racist meme our entire lives.

Finally we stopped caring what they called us and stopped apologizing every ten seconds.

All the over the top nazi/kkk/ rhetoric is just shock value satire because we got sick of having fingers wagged in our faces.

Or it was. You can only call someone a German national socialist so many times before he says fuck it and starts goosestepping.

It's a two sided dance.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned;

The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

>>2667042
>People weren't going to take the right's bullshit without giving an equal and opposite reaction.
Pot meet kettle.

>>2667086
>Lol the left has been pushing the whites are all racist meme our entire lives.

It hasn't been that long. I only remember SJWs hitting the mainstream during the second Obama term. Before that they existed but were rightfully fringe. Something happened between then and now to make people, especially minorities receptive to their bullshit. I believe it was the point where large swathes of the population suddenly got a lot more salty the second a black man took office, the right doubling down on basing american marriage law on the Old Testament, and Sikhs getting the end of the shitstick with every wave of Islamophobia because people cant be bothered to tell the difference.

Though I don't want to blame everything on the right, the modern left should be rightfully ridiculed just as much as the right.It takes two people to have an argument and both sides need to learn to calm the fuck down. It's kinda like >>2667088 said. We are in a cycle of the right pulling shit with the left pulling shit in response which causes the right to respond and so forth.

>>2667184
These days both sides are too cringe.

Normies got involved and didn't know it was all satire.

And everyone keeps doubling down on the rhetoric.

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>>2664943
its niggerism, literal niggerism

>>2664943
For historical shows i think it ought to be avoided for the lrager figures of history, but if senator #2352 is black because he delivered the line really fucking well in the audition then i don't care.

>>2667261
Why is English country attire so damn cozy?

>>2664943
I think this could be solved with makeup, i mean make up artists can make people look like lizards so i doubt it'd be that hard to make someone look white or black, the problem was blackface wasn't the actual painting but the rascist as fuck performances done in blackface.

>>2664943
It's not "colour blind", it is simply inaccurate. I don't mind seeing a historic persona being represented by an actor of different ethnicity, but similar looks are a must, which is clearly not the case here, where the intention is to pander to be "politically correct".

It's stupid and intellectually dishonest to shut yourself in a bubble and pretend that the world is comprised entirely of clones of yourself. Because you can't say that only white people are allowed to be in movies, or that others don't have the right to be pandered to just as much. We again see the hypocrisy on display here of people applauding an all white cast because "They made what I wanted to see!" but being outraged when someone else get's advertised towards. If you don't want to see non-white males, then don't see the movie. If you think "Why should I have to make that choice" then where were your protests for others when all they had to see was casts of all white males with maybe a token female/black?

>>2667544
You're so tolerant and progressive.

I hope that when they make your movie about your life that they pick someone completely opposite to you to play your role.

And if you have any heroes, I hope they are a cast black so that you can bask in your smug superior glow.

>>2667572
"Opposite" me? It's funny how I know how you're not talking about their beliefs, or personality, or voice or anything else.

my question is why even bothering making a specific character and setting shit in a specific time period if you're not going for at least passive amounts of accuracy? When you saw the nigger in the picture did you think "wow, irish history"? Get a white person to play a white king if you're referencing a specific person in history that we know wasn't black

I suppose it could also be a witty comment on how the irish are all niggers

>>2664963

Stage and TV/film are two entirely different mediums.
Only plebs think they are at all similar b/c "they have acting hurr"

>>2666878

honestly, who the fuck do you think you are fooling with this shit?

http://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-goldstein/2015/05/get-rid-of-white-people/

you dont need to be a stormfag to realize how all this SJW/diversity propaganda is based on hatred of white people.

>>2664943
if they do it to fill a cultural diversity quota, I hate it. otherwise I don't care. in this case, I'd think it's the former, and hate it.

however, on the other hand, public television isn't exactly a booming industry filled with good actors, I haven't watched this show nor am I inclined to but it could be the case that black actor was the best they could get to portray the role to the director's standards. I'd internally disapprove if this was the case, but I wouldn't have any outward protestations.

>>2666917
We do now. There are thousands of black people in Ireland now.

hypocritical, if they complain, and rightfully so, about non-white character depicted as white they should not do te exact opposite, it is retarded

>>2667749

>fight british for 300 years for your country

>hand it all to the third world

what did Ireland mean by this?

>>2666868
nigger

>>2667774
All the Irish who gave a fuck left.

>>2666868
>That pic
Hurr durr you can be any kind of anti social on 4chan, but you can't be racist! That's too far!

>>2667184
No its been around since at least after ww2. People were already getting butthurt of people like GLR having the audacity to say that whites should have their own nation states

>>2667774
Compared to other countries there doing good, EU wants them to take more muslims. It doesnt make sense that the Catholics and Protestants hate each other but dont give a fuck about the muslims. IRA needs to stop the shit with ulster and start worrying about the real threat to Ireland.

black as bog

>>2665378
>ancient Irish myth

>>2666948
>ideological self-awareness.
Who the fuck talks like this.

>>2664943
If I was Irish I'd be pissed.

>>2665378
Brian Boru is a well attested historical figure not mythological in the least.

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>>2667825
The only ones who gave a fuck stayed. The pussies all went to America during the famine.

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>>2665068
>>2665086

Now maybe, and I'm only suggesting this, MAYBE the Irish TV companies aren't out to annoy you, or was away your "culture".
It could be that he was simply a better actor? Or is that inconceivable?

This is extremely petty.

>>2664943
I think it's a shit way to teach tolerance.

They're better ways out there rather than just shoehorning minorities every where you can find them, even in history shows.

>>2668427
well if your starving you probably should leave.

>>2668431
would they hire a black actor to play hitler in a movie simply because hes a better actor?

>>2668473
that would be based.

>>2666635
Brian Boru was the first Irish person to effectively unify what would later become known as the nation. He was the progenitor of the dream of Irish independence and his myth was arguably as important in the movement as Cuculains. This is a bizarre portrayal because he is depicted wholey as an outsider, he doesn't even have an Irish accent, he is completely non irish

>>2668512
To make a comparison, this is like John Wayne portraying Genghis Khan. An ignorance to the figures significance to his national inheritors. Might as well cast Mao as a Jap, no reason not to in the same reasoning

>>2665413
>I guess people from the 50s just have no concept of the difference between mexicans and arabs.
Its true. In one of the earlier scenes in Patton where he's going in to assume command of the army the native villagers all run up to him selling crap and one of the women in a burka us very clearly shouting in spamish trying to sell Patton some dead hens.

Completely ruined the scene for me tbqh.

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>>2668473
We gotchu pham

>>2668559
I couldn't stomach The Battle of the Bulge with Ernest Borgneine as they only use post-war tanks and it takes place in the fucking desert

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>>2668553
Chinese directors did cast a Japanese Korean mongrel to play one of the most iconic figures in Chinese history and culture.

Furthermore Chinese, Korean, and Japanese actors frequently act out roles in each other's period cinemas.

>>2668427
And now you're throwing it all into a pile of shit because some EU unelected beurocratic neo Marxist told you to flood your country with violent, retarded foreigners

>>2664943
I have the same view as I do with stage plays:
If the person fits the bill properly and adds in appropriate mannerisms and accents for the particular character, how they look doesn't really matter unless it's a key theme of their character.

e.g. If Othello were white vs. Romeo being black.

Stage yes
TV no

>>2665364
Why you have to fire against fire this thing? (Using the same discourse as "them").

It's just nonsensical period, don't cast a semi heroic irishman as a black dude

>>2668623
dey arr rook the same

>>2665381
Most of these are non-accurate roles played by characters selected for their ability to look similar, fag.

Otherwise it's B at best tier shit with a different race actor likely being the only option they had that could actually pull audiences.

Fucking try and prove me wrong.

>>2665378
Dude, why even set it in Ireland? It's just a TV show, why can't Brian Boru have his kingdom in Australia?

I know this post is bait, but come on

>>2665518
Totally my man. What this REALLY tells us is that every single other ethnically Irish actor was worse than the fellow they cast.

>>2665068
haha

haha

CAPITALIZED

haha

>>2664965
This.
Part of the reason why I'm getting into TV Production in the future, as I plan to pitch a historical series using actors from the original countries, speaking the language they spoke. That, and it's the only thing I'm good at.

Hollywood might not enjoy the idea and I'll probably spend my whole career pitching the idea, but a /his/fag can dream, right?