Was Ottoman harem full of girls like this?

>>2661821
>girls

>>2661821
>girls

>>2661821
>Wake up
>Find out it's the 16th century
>You're the Ottoman Sultan

What do?

>>2661842
Do something about those Janissaries to keep them from overrunning the entire state apparatus. Maybe even eliminate them entirely. It'd suck to lose your elite infantry corps, but ultimately, I'd rather have internal stability.

>>2661842
Siege Vienna!

>>2661842
Reverse reversed gangbangs

EVERY

DAY

>>2662183
>Reverse reversed gangbangs
Explain?

>>2661821
>girls

>>2662193
Having a bunch of "girls" gangbang you with their girldicks.

>>2662277
>girldicks

They were filled with Caucasians, Slavs and Persians.

>>2662277
Girls can't have dicks. And gays were executed

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>>2662469
>Girls can't have dicks.

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>>2662469
>And gays were executed

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>>2662402
>>2662469

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>>2661821
>those huge hands

Yep, that's a boy.

>>2662469
You know nothing about how things worked in the Ottoman empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6%C3%A7ek

>The köçek (plural köçekler in Turkish) was typically a very handsome young male rakkas, or dancer, who usually cross-dressed in feminine attire, and was employed as an entertainer.

>Famous poets, such as Fazyl bin Tahir Enderuni, wrote poems, and classical composers, such as the court musician Hammamizade İsmail Dede Efendi (1778–1846), composed köçekces for celebrated köçeks. Many Istanbul meyhanes (nighttime taverns serving meze, raki or wine) hired köçeks. Before starting their performance, the köçek danced among the spectators, to make them more excited. In the audience, competition for their attention often caused commotions and altercations. Men would go wild, breaking their glasses, shouting themselves voiceless, or fighting and sometimes killing each other vying for the boys' sexual favors

>Köçeks were much more sought after than the Çengi ("belly dancers"), their female counterparts. Some youths were known to have been killed by the Çengi, who were extremely jealous of men's attention toward the boys.

Faggotry was celebrated, not executed over.

>>2662478
I'm going to crucify you

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>>2662499
Sometimes

>>2662499
>>2662541
How were the Ottomans Islamic if they unironically practiced homosexuality?

>>2662653
People only use religion to justify their actions. If the things they do go against scripture, they look the other way.

This is true for all religions.

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>>2662469
if it's cute it's a girl

>>2661842
Send all my Janissaries to attack Vienna, over and over again.

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>>2662569
>That guy peeking in through the window

>>2662757

Just checking the yearly Eurovision Song Contest entry.

>>2661842
Kill all my siblings and potential claimants, obviously.

>>2662653
When you combine central Asian homosexuality with Persian homosexuality, and then invade the Greeks you end up with a swirling combo of gay that ignores all rules.

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>>2662541
>this is considered 10/10 boipucci in the Roachoman Empire

>>2661850
That would just make the Janissaries kill you like they killed Osman II.

>>2662541
Is this the same shit as that bacha bazi thing in Afghanistan?

>>2663186
This is before they got all that power though. By Osman's time, they were a mostly Muslim Turkish group with families,(often families that would follow them into the Jannissary, and need to be supported leading to more demands for money and power) businesses, lots of access to the capital, and numbering in the hundreds of thousands.

It would be way easier to nip them in the bud then.

>>2661821
Someone get this thing some fucking chapstick, Jesus fucking Christ.

I wonder what ethnicity she is. Turks can look like her I guess.

>>2663210
Why do Abrahamics like the little boys so much?

>>2662666
>Everyone is a hypocrite because I say so
wew

>>2663233
Same reason pagans do.

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>>2663186
>Osman II
On that note, can someone explain to me HOW IN THE FUCK did the Ottomans manage to lose the battle of Khotyn? How do you organise a huge invasion only to bleed to death in a single siege of a shitty border fort?

>>2662653
How does one ironically practice homosexuality?

>>2662653
>Muslims don't fuck little boys now

Do you even Islam?

>>2662183
Is that like having sex with a bunch of chicks but they all have strap-ons and you have to suck their dicks?

>>2662469
>>2662499
Weren't the Ottomans among the first to decriminalize homosexuality? About a century before the West?

>>2661842
Curb the power of several religious orders and the janissaries.

>>2661842
Buy ships from european savages, send them to the new world and build a mosque there and convert them to islam

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On a side note, why did they obsess over European slaves but never hear about a sultan with a harem of Turkish or Persian qts?

>>2663531

Same reason an American might rave on about the wonderful authentic Japanese food he ate in Japan but not about the mounds of burgers he eats every day.

>>2662499
BUNU SIL

>>2661842
Kill myself after forcibly converting everyone to Catholicism and giving Constantinople back to the Greeks. Or orthodoxy I guess

>>2661842
Stop expanding north, put all military attention to destroy Rome and the papacy

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>>2661863
>blocs your path...

>>2661821
More of her?

>>2662653
>the Ottomans Islamic

only the very, very upper class were Islamic. most of the bureaucracy and military with Christian, at least culturally.

>>2661821
That's a really amazing eunuch you've got there, OP.

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>>2664012
>tercios behind you
>"Nada personal chico"

>>2661842
don't let the jannisaries have kids

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>>2664036

>>2664043
Whoah, this haram piece of idolatry is like an unmoving mirror! What sorcery is this?

>>2663598
they don't shut up about burgers though

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>>2664043
>Pobre chico francés

Te vengaré! Santiago!

>>2664046
we like burgers and persian qts....

>>2662469

Actually in Iran, you are allowed a sex change if you want to be gay. Or they just hang you if you persist with your dick.

>>2661842
demand tribute of cute girls from the balkans. impregnate them all until they produce a son. have the sons plot against each other until one is left alive, hasn't pledged his loyalty to another son, or gone into exile. make that remaining son the next sultan.

pass out the daughters as brides to reward my best underlings.

>>2663485
Sounds like a goodtime

>>2663460
Only in Afghanistan in areas that are not controlled by either Taliban or the Islamic State.

>>2662653
Ottomans were like one of the first states to decriminalise homosexuality

>>2664021
>Christians were okay with homosexuality in 16th century

Are you retarded?

Actually the jannisaries could be held in check as long as there were alpha sultans who beheaded every rebelling jannisary, its just after suleiman there came a string of fucking weak beta shits which allowed the jannisaries to do what they wanted.

>>2664849
This is true, Murad IV for example instantly put janissaries to order because he was alpha as fuck

Controlling the janissaries was just not for everyone, as long as Ottomans had a strong head of a state, it went well.

>>2662541
This is proof that Ottoman empire was the 3rd Rome

>>2663460
Girls are considered merchandise, and you don't want to sell damaged goods, so you rape a little lad, who when gets older will rape the next one etc etc...

>>2663531
muslims couldnt be enslaved by another muslim.

>>2663327
poland stronk

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>>2662499

>>2663327
Fucking Janissaries were shit by then and a fucking complete terror to the Sultan ->

>Sultan Osman himself was not satisfied with the battle's outcome and put the blame for it on the janissaries. Osman wanted to modernize the army, which he blamed for the defeat; his plans for modernization were, however, opposed by the tradition-minded janissaries. That opposition resulted in the rebellion of janissaries in 1622, in which Osman II was deposed and killed.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khotyn_(1621)#Aftermath

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries#Revolts_and_disbandment

>By 1622, the Janissaries were a "serious threat" to the stability of the Empire.[34][unreliable source] Through their "greed and indiscipline", they were now a law unto themselves and, against modern European armies, ineffective on the battlefield as a fighting force.[34][unreliable source]

>>2663327
>be new sultan
>want to show off
>decide to conquer the entire Ukraine from Commonwealth
>make huge army
>barely enter Ukraine
>get stuck on border fortifications
>get a third of your army killed in failed assaults on said fortifications
>give up and go home
>blame your soldiers for being shitty
>they kill you

>>2665375
>when you realize that a poor whity will never know pleasure of homo circle with your fellow janissaries

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> destroys your entire navy using little boats with chode cannons

>>2665572
Janissaries were Christian children sold as slaves to the Ottomans though, that was the whole point.

>>2663351
By making the other guy suck *your* dick!

>>2665584
Lepanto was the opposite, it was big Venetian and Genoese ships that destroyed mostly small boats of Ottomans.

>>2663531
They didn't. Europeans obsessed over European slaves in harems.

cec

>>2664129
That's not how it works. If you identify as female if you are a male, the government will allow the sex change surgery. Same with women wanting to be men.

Otherwise your fucked.

>>2662478
I get the reference, kek

>>2665598
they weren't sold, they were collected by the state like taxes

>>2662469
>>2662402
You see those double inverted commas around the word girls? That means he knows they are not actually girls, but is pointing out that they are PURPORTEDLY girls. In etymological circles they're called Text Based Air Quotes To Indicate Irony, but that's a technical term. I like to call them Silliness Commas.

>>2664129
>>2666072
What nation or tribe was it where women and men don't have equal rights but a woman can choose to become a man and gains all the rights that entails while losing the rights of women?

>>2664953
>as long as Ottomans had a strong head of a state, it went well.
this is true for Turkish history in general. Every few centuries they get a larger than life military genius that is actually able to turn their megalomaniac delusions into an actually effective war machine

>>2662757
cec

>>2663108
To be fair that's what the turkish women looked like.