Polish-soviet war 1920

>>2657736
Mixed bag. They obviously beat the White Army, but they still had a lot of officers who didn't trust tanks and wanted to use lots of cavalry charges.

Also, it seems like (I don't know this for a fact) that they were over-extended when they got to Warsaw.

Video related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po726aS_h7w

>>2657736
No.

The Red Army almost rolled over Poland, mind you. They just got memed on at Warsaw so badly I'm not even sure how they fucked up so hard.

It very much depended on the unit. Some were quite good, and many of these were involved against the Poles.

The best bolshevik units were the Latvian rifles that guarded the central committee and acted as a type of praetorian guard in the early days of the bolsheviks. The Latvians themselves were the most over-represented group in the bolsheviks and seemed quite into communism compared to the rest of the baltics.

Trotsky and Mikhail Frunze were vital on turning the red army from a urban militia into a real army. Trotsky dealing with the administrative aspect and Frunze with the tactical/field/

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>Battle of The Niemen
>Poles and Russians have roughly 100,000 troops each
>Russians lose 40,000
>Poles lose 7,000
>mfw

>>2657838
Right it's only their fault that their lost... They already lost the 1919 campaign.

>>2657838
Interestingly they mainly fucked up because of Stalin, who was the chief commissar and refused to commit reinforcements because he didnt like the commanding general, Tukachevsky. Tukachevsky is one of the most underrated commanders of all time and basically invented the predecessor of the armored Blitzkrieg.

Stalin however hated his guts, mostly because stalin had a hatred for talented generals and feared a "red army napoleon" taking power. During the purges stalin had him executed. If he was able to stay on as red army chief finland and barbarossa would have gone a bit differently imo.

>>2657857
didnt Stalin use Katyn as revenge for the Poles shitting on him in 1920

>>2657862
Stalin didn't hate Poles.
Katyn wasn't revenge but a normal day for him. He already did worse during the Polish Operation of the NKVD.

>>2657848
>The Latvians themselves were the most over-represented group in the bolsheviks
Ha.

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This guy should be known for anyone interested in military history and he's even forgotten in Poland.

>>2657862
I don't think he did. Stalin wasn't emotionally vindictive in the same way hitler was. He wiped out the polish officer corps because they represented a threat to the soviet annexation of eastern Poland and a future communist dominated polish gov

>>2657871
It's pretty much Latvian > Lithuanian > Estonian > Finnish > Georgian > Ossetian > Poles > Jews > Ukrainian > Russian > everyone else in terms of proportional representation

The least proportionally represented group in the Bolsheviks were turkmens and Armenians

>>2658031
Can you provide data of those percentages?

>>2657857
You are overrating that Stalin's fuckup. Sure it did damage, but it was not really fatal. What was fatal to red army was Pilsudski who played Tukhachevski like a fucking fiddle.

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>>2657871
>>2658085
he's right

funny how "Judaeo Bolshevism" became a stupid conspiracy theory but "Baltic Bolshevism" didn't

>>2658085
W. H. King, Conditions in Russia
Number of Bolshevik officials by thousand of population, respectivelly to anons post
>78
>32
>16
>8
>5
>8
>11
>7
>1
>4