Is predestination the most logical doctrine if an omniscient god exists?
If omniscience implies knowledge of the future, then that necessitates the future to be determined.
>>2654072
t. Retard who doesn't understand metaphysics
Time is a state
>>2654086
No, its not. Even medieval theologians understood that God was not a being existing along a temporal axis alongside the universe, but rather a being external to the entirety of spacetime [though they lacked the concept then] perceiving future events as they happen.
The Deity is more akin to a multidimensional object intersecting a four-dimensional one in terms of how He interacts with time.
TLDR: Calvin is a hack who turned Christianity into a Lovecraftian Horror Story because he was too dumb to listen to St Augustine.
>>2654072
>Hint: Time is a dimension.
Exactly, dumbass. Time is _one_ dimension. As such, the course of all future events is predetermined.
>>2654126
The notion that all events are predetermined requires that casuality as a concept be universal.
If causality is not universal, or if its possible for the same causes to conjoin to create varying effects, hard determinism is refuted.
In any case the point of contention is whether God's knowledge contradicts the existence of free will. The extremely heretical Calvinist understanding requires that you ignore God's attribute of eternity and presume he exists as something akin to Zeus, a being in Time, and not beyond it.
>>2654138
>The notion that all events are predetermined requires that casuality as a concept be universal.
Ie, that time has one dimension.
>>2654007
Obviously.
>>2654106
If God is all knowing and all powerful (which are prerequisites for him being God), then at the moment of creation he had to have known all future implications of his creation. If he did not know at the point of creation what would be happening in the world at precisely this point, and at every other point, he would not have bee all knowing, and thus would not have been God.
Belief in God demands belief in pre-destination.