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What happened with the Solutreans in burgerland /his/

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What happened with the Solutreans in burgerland /his/
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Nothing. Solutrean hypothesis is not taken seriously by anyone but stormfags.
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>>2652946
>muh appeal to authority
not an argument, explain how spear points could have shown up on the eastern americas long before the asians ever crossed the strait
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>>2652939

They never existed.
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>>2652969

It's the late Clovis culture which has superficial similarities to Solutrean not the earliest known American cultures.

Solutrean theory is just a little brainfart that keeps on farting.
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>>2653039
see
>>2652969

>>2653055
that's not an explanation for why there's unique spear points on the eastern americas when there were no humans around at that point there
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>>2653062

You're mistaken, there were people. They were the pre-Clovis. They just sucked balls compared to Clovis.
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>>2653076
>Native Americans are believed to have descended from northeast Asia, arriving over a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska some 12,000 years ago and then migrating across North and South America

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadowcroft_Rockshelter#Archaeology
>Radiocarbon dating of the site indicated occupancy beginning 16,000 years ago and possibly as early as 19,000 years ago.
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>>2653095

Seems like they came from Beringia too since they didn't have any similarity to Europeans in their arrow heads or anything else. It's much harder to cross Atlantic.
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>>2653118
>leaving points on the eastern side of the americas
>imblying they wouldn't first be discovered in the northwestern parts

In 1970 a stone tool, a biface hand axe, which was later suggested by Stanford and Bailey to resemble Solutrean stone tools was dredged up by the trawler Cinmar off the east coast of Virginia in an area that would have been dry land prior to the rising sea levels of the Pleistocene Epoch. The tool was allegedly found in the same dredge load that contained a mastodon's remains. The mastodon tusks were later determined to be 22,000 years old.[27] In addition several archaeological sites on the Delmarva peninsula with suggestive, but not definitive, dating between 16,000 and 18,000 years have been discovered by Darrin Lowery of the University of Delaware. These factors led Stanford and Bradley to reiterate in 2014 their academic advocacy of pre-Clovis peoples in North America and their possible link to paleolithic Europeans.[28][29]
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>>2652969
>explain how spear points could have shown up on the eastern americas long before the asians ever crossed the strait

They didn't.
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>>2653140

Possible but without actual evidence. It's also possible that Native Americans settled Ireland first after the Younger Dryas.
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>>2653140

Maybe you should keep reading.
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>>2653140

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluefish_Caves
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WE
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>>2653178
This. I guess it's the fault of archaeologists for not publicizing this stuff more, but Clovis first hasn't been taken seriously in the academic community for over 20 years at this point.

Too many pre-Clovis communities have been found, and now there are pretty good models for how the people of the Americas happening before the opening of the ice-free corridor. It basically revolves around coastal populations following kelp beds and marine resources along the coasts in boats. This has been pretty well supported by recent coastal findings, which all show pre-Clovis technology.

In short, the Solutrean hypothesis is complete bullshit that no one takes seriously, and fails on any critical examination because of how flimsy it is (seriously, if you know anything about lithic analysis it just seems stupid). More recent evidence for the settlement of the Americans, including genetic evidence, also rule it out.
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Modern Europeans and native Americans do share some ancestry but this seems to have come from a population that lived more in the eastern parts of Eurasia until later on. Ancient native Americans lack all other genetic affinities to Europeans except that. We have Solutrean DNA too and they looked like native Americans and basically nothing like Paleolithic Europeans.

Archaeologists had already rejected this hypothesis but the genetic evidence basically clinches it.
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>>2655298
I meant Paleo-Indian DNA, not Solutrean. We don't have that but we have samples from other Paleolithic and Mesolithic European cultures.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Verde
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>>2652969
>explain how spear points could have shown up on the eastern americas long before the asians ever crossed the strait
explain why you think this is true.
post some evidence/sources to back up your claim
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>>2654882
WAS KEBABS 'N SHOARMAS
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>>2655397
> >>2653140
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>>2656168

The most likely source for these pre-Clovis Virginians would be the Bluefish Caves people rather than people from other another continent.

>>2653252
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