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>In his youth, Hitler served as an altar boy and sung in the

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>In his youth, Hitler served as an altar boy and sung in the choir at a Benedictine monastery. Each day, attending mass, he passed beneath the first swastika he had ever seen, graven into the stone escutcheon of the abbey portal.

>Hitler’s father, a customs officer, hoped the boy would follow in his footsteps and become a civil servant. The clergy encouraged him to become a monk. Instead the young Hitler went to Vienna.

>In Vienna, Hitler lived in shabby, cramped lodgings. He rented a piano that took up half his room, and concentrated on composing his opera. During his early days in Munich, he spent no more than a mark per day for food. He lived on bread, milk, and vegetable soup. He did not even own an over-coat. He shoveled streets on snowy days and carried luggage at the railway station. He spent many weeks in shelters for the homeless. But he never stopped painting or reading.

>Despite his dire poverty, Hitler somehow managed to maintain a clean appearance. Landlords and landladies in Vienna and Munich all remembered him for his civility and pleasant disposition. His behavior was impeccable. His room was always spotless, his meager belongings meticulously arranged, and his clothes neatly hung or folded. He washed and ironed his own clothes, something which in those days few men did. He needed almost nothing to survive, and money from the sale of a few paintings was sufficient to provide for all his needs.

>During his exile in Vienna, he often thought of his modest home, and particularly of his mother. When she fell ill, he returned home from Vienna to look after her. For weeks he nursed her, did all the household chores, and supported her as the most loving of sons. When she finally died, on Christmas eve, his pain was immense. Wracked with grief, he buried his mother in the little country cemetery. In his room, Hitler always displayed an old photograph of his mother, and cherished her memory throughout his life.

Was he on the autism spectrum?
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around what age was he homeless?
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>capable
>handsome
>proactive
>extroverted
He doesn't sound close to being autistic
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>>2650866

When he was 17-18
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>>2650842
Where is this garbage from? Sounds like some Nazi hagiography. It's full of lies and half-truths.
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>>2650842
You know Stalingrad was named after Stalin because he led the defense against the white forces?
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>>2650842
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How many threads have we had about Hitler and the possibility of autism so far this week?
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>>2650911
>Hitler is so demonized the idea that he ironed his own clothes and took care of his dying mother is hagiographic
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>>2650842

Yeah if you read Kershaw he describes Hitler as pretty autistic.
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>>2650930
I <3 Monty Python
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>>2652653
It's more about the part where he took care of his own mother and "being remembered for civil disposition".

Also googling it, put's ihr.com as the first answer, so the entire article is worthless unless we get primary sources.
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Fuck off neckbeard
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Nope it was all because he had a micro penis that;s what I heard
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>>2652675

that's like one of his most well-known traits alongside being a dogfag
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>>2650911
No thats mostly accurate, Hitler was an alter boy which is where he first saw the swastika. The only thing this got wrong was that his father was a farmer.

Hitler's life was incredibly tragic. He was basically an edgy liberal arts student who painted landscapes because the guy was insanely depressed. The war gave him his first real meaning in life, and he performed incredibly well earning two ranks of the iron cross. Then of course he also suffered immensely under it, he was stricken blind from a chlorine attack when the war ended.

>>2652675
>googling it

wew lad this is Hitler 101 his life sucked shit. Also the 1 ball and catching syphilis screwing a jewish hooker are both objectively false.
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>>2653040
The one ball thing came from his medical records.
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>>2650911
>being this passive aggressive about it
How much of a mongrel can you be? if you can't take history characters on all their perspectives, why bother with history at all? I invite you to kill yourself
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>>2653058
Actually thats a myth, the medical records in question didn't exist. Hitler had a jewish doctor as a child, and he had no records of him only having one descended ball. Its a popular historical myth akin to Napoleon being short.
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>>2653091
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Bloch

Thats Bloch's account, everything else is just tabloid trash descending from a popular British war song.
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>>2650842
>being awarded for being a fucking postman

Its almost like Stalin wasnt Soviet commander during the Civil War or anything
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>>2653103
Both his WW1 medical records and his prison medical records confirm a "right-sided cryptorchidism." As did a Soviet autopsy, but I wouldn't even bother mentioning it were it not for those two.
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>>2653127
>soviet autopsy

Pls leave and never return
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>>2653127
>soviet autopsy

He had a jewish doctor who served his family until 1907. His credibility > The fucking soviet union and ww1 medical records, neither of which have been known to be particularly accurate.
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>>2653134
Of course you would focus on that one, rather than the two mentions of it performed by German institutions.
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>>2653143
The Jew doctor stole his ball.
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>>2653143
Once again, his prison records say otherwise. This is three confirmed instances of medical professionals saying he had only one ball, versus one doctor who denies.
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>>2652675
>Hitler can't have loved his mother
>Hitler couldn't have been civil

This is your brain on cuckoldry
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>>2653143
>>2653134
>>2653103
>>2653040
https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter-weltkrieg/article150109063/Der-wahre-Grund-fuer-Hitlers-gestoertes-Sexleben.html&prev=search

Here's a German-language source on the case. His prison medical records resurfaced in 2010 and were quickly scrutinized. The prison doctor had no reason to lie about his condition, and his family physician had likely not examined Hitler for decades, assuming he had ever actually thoroughly examined Hitler's testicles.
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>>2653164
Actually its 3 versus 3

Erwin Giesing, Eduard Bloche, and Theodor Morell versus 3 random medical reports that you saw on a tabloid piece.

>he also had a micropenis, caught syphillis and herpes in the style of Caligula that drove him mad, and beat the shit out of hookers as well
>the sun told me so

k whatever bud
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>>2653190
>welt.de
its literally nothing lad.
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>>2653164
I think you mean one doctor who doesnt have records of it, not that he denied it.
>>2653134
>>2653143
>Its all soviet propaganda guys, they WANTED us to think he had one ball!
>>2653147
It all clicks into place...
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>>2653190
"resurfaced" in 2010

yeah no fuck off show me the actual medical report and not a tabloid piece you moron. Every year someone has some sort of new incriminating evidence that is pushed immediately as fact.
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>>2653196
Yes, they did want you to believe he had one ball. Why would his jewish childhood physician lie?
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>>2653190
(((Resurfaced)))
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>>2653143

> served his family until 1907
> great ball-severing war began in 1914

what did anon mean by this?
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>Failed art school
>Listened to drunk homeless rant about Jews
>Bought into it
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>>2653206
Its not ball severing, monorchism is simply a non-descended testicle, which mostly occurs in childhood. They say this same shit about Mao as well. Specifically they accuse Hitler of having cryptorchidism, which is a birth defect.
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What I want to know is why /pol/io freaks out about the idea of HItler having one ball? What, do they think he was some sort of perfect, defect free Aryan god with no health problems?
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>>2653207
>drunk homeless rant

He read a pamphlet then began to notice patterns, then attended meetings with a bunch of anonymous aristocrats and workers. Most of them socialists.
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>>2653238
Look, its just not true. It is true that Hitler was a druggie while he served as chancellor but there is no evidence that he had only one ball or no balls based on birth defects.

Its the same myth as Napoleon being 5'4", its just not true. What the issue with Hitler being a normal functioning human being, why does there need to be some sort of Freudian implication that he hated jews due to sexual frustration, which is why this is controversial btw.
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>yes goyim, Hitler was a one balled coprophilic pedophilic incestual cryptojew with black heritage

Will this ever end?
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>>2653040
>Literally defending using L. Degrelle as a historical source without questioning

Wrong board, nigger
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>>2653247
>pamphlet
>Most of them socialists
Like I said, drunk homeless
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>>2653256
Because creating a massive bureaucratic device to systemically kill 11 million people is not something normal functional human beings do. It's something fucked up monsters do.

Also it's like you people have this weird belief that the single most scrutinized human just after Jesus wouldn't have any weird shit in his life.

Though even I've got to admit I'd like to see an academic report on the subject. The fact I can only find it in news sites and tabloids doesn't mean it's fake (especially since I'm an English speaker trying to find a report on a German subject) but it does render it a bit suspect.
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>>2650911
Kike detected.

GASP you mean Hitler wasn't an unkempt slob?!! What is this anti semitic propaganda!!??
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>>2653263
>ctr +f
>Leon Degrelle

0 results

An hero plz this isn't some fringe source this is the general narrative of Hitler's life.
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>>2653260
>I'm shocked to find out that the guy who saw fit to kill 11 million people was weird

This is what /pol/io actually believes.
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>>2653274
So because he was evil he had to be deformed in some manner?

This isn't a cartoon, he could have been mentally maladjusted but fine physically
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>>2653127
>soviet autopsy
topkek
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>>2653274
>It's something fucked up monsters do.

Well, it was not Hitler that made the system. It was Himmler, who while being more healthy, was way more of a cunt.
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>>2650911
Adolf Hitler is this century's Satan
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>>2653280
>he killed lots of people
>must be muh freudian explanation

Pol Pot and Stalin killed lots as well, and as far as we know they were pretty normal
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>>2653288
No. But he wasn't a functional human being.
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>>2653274
>dehumanizing your perceived enemy
Seems vaguely Nazi-ish
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>>2650911
>It's full of lies and half-truths.
Prove it.
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>>2653274
>something monsters do

Alexander the Great and the Roman Emperors were amazing men wtf are you talking about?

>Hitler doesn't have weird shit in his life

He did. He served in fucking ww1 and, recieved shrapnel to the leg and inhaled chlorine gas. There was a chance he would be permanently blind from this exposure. After that he found his country ruled by socialists and in a state of small rebellion due to mostly jewish communists via the spartacist uprising and frei korps put down

Like how is that not the central factor for him becoming a fascsit and anti-semite why does everything have to be sexual?

>killing 11 million people
>11 million systematically

read this, this is a jewish historain on the subject http://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

11 million people were not gassed, 11 million people may have died but 11 million people were not gassed.
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>>2653298
Stalin had a fucked up arm and liked to write dumb commentary on pictures of naked dudes.
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>>2653308
Let me write a commentary on your wife's gaping asshole you fucking cuck
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>>2653277
Stop being retarded. The greentext OP was written by him.

If googling something gives you IHR as the first item, it's bound to be bullshit. Defending it will only make you seem like a /pol/ish immigrant.

>general narrative of Hitler's life
It might features correct parts, but it's not a credible article.
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>>2653301
more functional than I am!

please kill me
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>>2653301
What does that mean?

Other than being a junkie, he was fine until the end of the war.

>>2653308
>he had a fucked up arm and had a weird sense of humor
>that's why he killed so many people

Nigga be serious
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>>2653301
Yes he was. He was a perfectly healthy person who served in WW 1, Stalin seemed like a perfectly normal person, same with Mao. They collectively killed 3 times more than Hitler did.

They also accuse Mao of having 1 ball as well. Not true, except according to his personal physicians they are true, but still why does it matter?
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>>2653315
>>2653316
t. cuck nu-males

Threesome when?
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>>2653306
>Alexander the Great and the Roman Emperors were amazing men wtf are you talking about?

Alexander is a terrible example, because he was pretty fucked up himself and there were countless completely fucked up Roman Emperors. Julius Caesar was almost certainly a psychopath by our standards.

>Like how is that not the central factor for him becoming a fascsit and anti-semite why does everything have to be sexual?

It doesn't have to be, but you fucking idiots just reject anything about the man that isn't "he liked his dog very much" out of hand as Jewish propaganda.

>systematically automatically means gassed

You're an idiot.
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>>2653317
kcuc syk
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>>2653321
>>2653318
Hi SCHLOMO
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>>2653317
>assuming I'm making a leap from "had weird shit going on" to "this is why he killed people"

Does... does posting on /pol/ cause brain damage?
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>>2653315
Thats the best TLDR of Hitler's life possible without going into his his war and post war experiences.
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>>2653320
>Disliking a regime that wanted to exterminate your folk, makes you a "cuck nu-male"

You are an American, aren't you?
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>>2653333
>folk
We're so earthy and down to earth goys
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>>2653321
>systematically
>intentionally

Does that soothe your autism?

>psychopaths by todays standards

Yet they oversaw they greatest period of peace in human history. Weird how that works, isn't it? At this point im pretty sure you're a leddit immigrant.
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>>2653331
I assumed you were the same guy I was arguing with before, my mistake.

As you can see we're all anon here so it's hard to tell
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>>2653317
>Other than being a junkie, he was fine until the end of the war.

You know, aside from creating a regime that killed 11 million people directly and was responsible for 60 million dead overall.

Also hilariously (as hilarious as destroying countless priceless works of art and forcing several artists to stop making art, if he didn't just outright send them to a camp for disagreeing with him) establishing an artistic policy that is the single worst case of sour-grapes ever.
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>>2653339
>Yet they oversaw they greatest period of peace in human history
wew
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>>2653331
No, but i think posting here gradually reduces a person's literacy overall holy shit do you not understand that the subtext of applying psychological and physical disorders onto people you don't like is that you are dehumanizing them and , through this, will believe anything?
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>>2653351
>he thinks otherwise

wew
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>>2653346
What does committing mass murder have to do with being a functional human being?

He was perfectly functional all the while the camps were running.
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>Yet they oversaw they greatest period of peace in human history.

Are you fucking retarded? Alexander's empire almost immediately fractured into a group of feuding Daidochi states and the Roman Empire was fraught with civil war for most of its history.

Weird how that works, isn't it? At this point im pretty sure you're a leddit immigrant.

I've probably been here longer than you. I just never made the leap in ressentiment required to turn "SJWs told me to think more about my place in society and empathize with others and that makes me unhappy" into the alt-right.

>>2653340
I am the same guy, I just never said that his hypothetical lack of a nut is anything more than trivia.
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>>2650842
>OP writes a fake "biography" of Hitler and tries to pass it off as truth

Protip: if your pro-Hitler thread has quotes with no visible source (which it almost always does), it's fabricated. If a source is included it's probably incorrectly cited at that
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>>2653346
>60 million dead overall.

topkek how many lies can a person believe. Yesterday it was 38 million, today its 60, next it will be 6 trillion.

He sent jews to the camps to expel them from Germany, then the war broke out, they were forced into slave labor, and then were killed.

>destroying piece of art

nigger are you retarded his general used to complain about him intentionally avoiding bombing key places in the Italian campaign based on their historical significance
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>>2653355
>people with mental and physical abnormalities are less human

See a shrink.
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>>2653367
>Hitler being a poorfag and caring for his mother is now pro-Hitler

Really makes me prep the bull
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>>2653363
>He was perfectly functional

WTF I LOVE HITLER NOW
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>>2653367
>fake biography
>people believe this

He was homeless for a year and his mother and father died when he was young, and he mourned. A young Adolf Hitler had human feelings.

Why can't leddit accept the fact that Hitler was not a psychopath?
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>>2653359
yes anon, julius caeser who invaded and conquered gaul oversaw the greatest period of peace in human history.

The romans didn't fight the parthians and launch punitive raids into germania.

We live in the most peaceful period in world history because our institutions learned lessons from both world wars and the cold war which nearly ended human life as we know it.
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>>2653376
>He sent jews to the camps to expel them from Germany, then the war broke out, they were forced into slave labor, and then were killed.

He sent the Jews to the camps to kill them.

>nigger are you retarded his general used to complain about him intentionally avoiding bombing key places in the Italian campaign based on their historical significance

Tell me, where is the original copy of the War Cripples (and several other paintings and works of art)?
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>>2653363
Mass murderers cannot be considered functional. WTF is wrong with you?
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>>2653376
yes, all those book burnings didn't happen in nazi germany.
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>>2653385
>war cripples

Based Hitler destroying ugly art
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>>2653378
You first, if you honestly need to justify Hitler's actions by saying "lol he had one ball bra and i read something from the sun that said he had sex with tons of hookers and was even gay. Fucking gay nazis lol"

The point is this

>hitler was a normal person
>hitler was a charismatic person
>hitler and the germans chose to do what they did based on empathy not psychopathy

Sorry if that bothers you but Hobbes was right about human beings.
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>>2653376
>topkek how many lies can a person believe. Yesterday it was 38 million, today its 60, next it will be 6 trillion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

>>2653381
>Why can't leddit accept the fact that Hitler was not a psychopath?

Because his regime killed 11 million people you jackass.
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>>2653389
Sure they can you dolt, just because you're a monster doesn't mean you aren't functional
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>>2653379
>>2653381
The author of the quotes was a Belgian SS collaborator charged with propaganda. It's pure propaganda. That's what "fake" is. It's akin to the official biography of Kim Il-Sung that claims he led the resistance against Japan and was born on a magical mountain.

Stay mad and keep believing your own lies, neckbeards. Because nobody else is
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>>2653398
>Hitler didn't destroy any art!
>What about all this art he destroyed?
>It was ugly art anyway.

Fuck off. His artistic policy was nothing more than sour-grapes at the fact he got rejected for not knowing the basics of painting.
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>>2653383
>We live in the most peaceful period in world history because our institutions learned lessons from both world wars and the cold war which nearly ended human life as we know it.
>On the brink of ww3 all the time
>the US invades anyone for muh oil
>depleted uranium rounds
>chemical weapons
>weaponized small pox

Like nigger are you just retarded

>Gaul

Yes compare Gaul to WW1 or 2 please. They were still far more peaceful than we are now, you have to be some dipshit white kid living in a suburb in the US to think otherwise.
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>>2653402
>Because his regime killed 11 million people you jackass.
Not an argument, Hitler would not have done what he did if he was not passionate and romantic. Just because you don't like Nazis doesn't mean that Hitler wasn't a human being, and the fact that this seems to be the first time you've heard that Hitler mourned for his mother indicates that you're a newfag.
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>>2653182
>haha i dont need sources, cuz.... your a a cuck hehe
kill yourself
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>>2653399
well the german state started to dehumanize german citizens of particular ethnicities and inciting hatred before they started the ghettoization and concentration of said people.

If anything they methodically stripped empathy from the jews.romani and other undesirables before killing them.
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>>2653399
>hitler was a normal person
Incorrect, everyone deemed him an outsider.

>hitler was a charismatic person
Correct in his later years, he was certainly not charismatic before the war

>hitler and the germans chose to do what they did based on empathy not psychopathy
Empathy? Lolno, butthurt ws the reason.
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>>2653385
>He sent the Jews to the camps to kill them.

Nope

>Tell me, where is the original copy of the War Cripples (and several other paintings and works of art)?

Probably in a Russian Oligarch's/ US Oligarchs House desu.

>>2653391
They burned porn, communist pamphlets, and modernism. Modernism a shit sorry if that bothers you.
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>>2653406
Then what the fuck do you think Hitler did when he was younger?

OP's post is pure neutrality; he was poor, he was civil, he took care of himself, he cared for his mother; traits that most humans have
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>>2653399
>implying I consider the hypothetical ball anything more than trivia

/pol/ really does make people retarded.

>Hitler was a normal person.

Nope, he killed 11 million people, that automatically disqualifies him.

>Hitler was a charismatic person.

Reports are conflicting, apparently he was quiet and somewhat awkward interpersonally.

>Hitler and the Germans chose to do what they did based on empathy not psychopathy.

Funny how their empathy ceased the second someone different than them was the subject of concern.

>Hobbes was right about human beings.

Spinoza > Hobbes.
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>>2653274
wtf I hate people with one descended testicle now
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>>2653421
By most accounts Hitler had a near-pathological amount of empathy for the German peoples, young Hitler was always dreaming up new ways to help the underprivileged. He thought that the Jews were the enemies of the German workers, so he didn't view them as human, just like how most Westerners today have no problem with murdering racists/sexists/homophobes/etc.
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>>2653402
Yes but he did it

>out of emotion

Not out of psychopathy you fucking moron, plus the 11 million is a goddamn lie. First it was 6, then 11, then 12. Cant wait for the whole war to be blamed on Hitler just wanting Danzig back.
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>>2653414
Psychopaths are human beings too, they're just shitty human beings that lack a basic moral compass and empathy.
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>>2653425
>They burned porn
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>>2653425
>defending Nazi destruction of art
Yeah man fuck commie shit like Van Gogh
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>>2653415
>we now need sources that Hitler loved his mother

Why not ask for sources that he drank water instead of virgin blood?
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>>2653430
>>Hitler was a normal person.
>Nope, he killed 11 million people, that automatically disqualifies him.

I mean if we define normal to include psychopaths he was a normal person. You seem to be a pleb who subscribes to "le great man" hypothesis of history
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>>2653436
Whose accounts?
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>>2653417
Jews were horrible people and ethnic tensions were equal. You had the international boycots and then of course the kristallnacht which was spurred by a jew assassinating a german officer.

>>2653421
>everyone thought of him as an outsider

... introverts aren't human now? Seriously?

>butthurt was the reason

pic related
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>>2653412
>live on the brink
and we haven't had a major war since korea. Our biggest rival is a regional power who trades with us.
>muh oil
which is fucked up and post 9/11 and iraq the US has been steadily moving away from it's world police role and using it's economic clout to good effect while maintaining world peace.
>depleted uranium rounds
which are great anti tank weapons due to their heavy mass.
>chemical weapons
which are generally frowned upon and the only states that use them are tinpot dictators trying hold on to power.
>weaponized smallpox
which hasn't been used ever.

And no, aggressive expansion was a pillar of the roman state. Conquering people and enslaving them was how the roman empire ran and after it stopped expanding the empire began to stagnate.
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>>2653437
>goddamn lie

It's the single best documented event in human history.

Also the war is absolutely, undeniably, entirely Nazi Germany's fault.
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>>2653425
>They burned porn, communist pamphlets, and modernism. Modernism a shit sorry if that bothers you.

>nazis burn down art
>"lol who cares, it was gay anyway.:"
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>>2653447
There was a good thread about it a while back, I couldn't find the link but it's screenshotted on an image with a Wojak that says ">tfw you're Hitler"
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>>2653421
>he was an outcast
>that men as he wasn't a normal person
wtf I love Hitler's ideology now
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>>2653430
>Nope, he killed 11 million people, that automatically disqualifies him.

Nope sorry normal people wanted Hitler to punish the jews and the 11 million is goddamn lie either way. Normal people can kill people and normal people fight wars. He was not a psychopath, sorry if that makes you feel insecure.

>someone different from them

Who wanted to wreck the country based on class and ethnic tensions internationally but i wouldn't expect a newfag to now about the French Commune, the Jews and Modern Capitalism, or the Russian Revolution or why everyonein Germany began hating jews. No I'm sure it had nothing to do with upper class jews being assholes and it had nothing to do with Weimar Era culture.

>Spinoza

topkek
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>>2653274
come back when you no longer have the cognitive abilities of a child
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>>2653451
All we're waiting for is a Wilhelm 2 to appear in china and we're good to go for another world war 1 desu
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>>2653448
>and then of course the kristallnacht which was spurred by a jew assassinating a german officer.

lmao what kind of inbred retard believes this schlock. This is liek saying the niggers in Ferguson were justified in rioting over michael brown

pic related has never been more true
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>>2653448
>jews serve more per capita in the german army than any other ethnicity and are highly integrated into german society
>"They wuz horrible and communist and deserve to die."

That is exactly how dehumanization works. You don't see individual jews as people but as caricatures who are keeping you down and therefore deserve to die.
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>>2653428
lmao, is this how you defend proven forgeries by an SS propaganda officer? "what else did he do?"

Well, read any of the actually researched biographies of Hitler to see what he did. There were many.

Your cult of personality of this cuck is pathetic.
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>>2653464
>defending anti-Semitism
The guy you're responding to is an idiot but don't do this, the Jews literally dindu nuffin, especially the poor as fuck Polish Jews
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>>2653436
>By most accounts Hitler had a near-pathological amount of empathy for the German peoples
What are Nero decrees for 20 Reichsmark

>young Hitler was always dreaming up new ways to help the underprivileged
Young Hitler was not the Hitler in power, yound Hitler was the "underpriviliged" (he was just lazy, though)

>just like how most Westerners today have no problem with murdering racists/sexists/homophobes/etc
Wonderfull comparism! I just saw twenty people executed for racism, yesterday.

>>2653448
>... introverts aren't human now? Seriously?
I swear, the average IQ of this board drops by 20, during the American powerhour... Introverts are minority of mankind, thus not normal. Not to mention he was even an introvert, but almost an IRL Oblomov.

>pic related
Is reaction to commonly accepted view?
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King James Bible

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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>>2653467
chinks are more interested in having the gravy train rolling and making money
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>>2653439
Yes, they did burn pr0nz. Did everyone in germany agree with it? No. But they didn't burn books because "lol fuck readin" they did it because they were tired of the smut of the Weimar Republic.

>>2653440
>They Burned Van Gogh

Topkek no
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>>2653464
>11 million is goddamn lie either way.

It's well documented.

Normal people don't create bureaucratic administrations of genocide you cunt.

>Who wanted to wreck the country based on class and ethnic tensions internationally but i wouldn't expect a newfag to now about the French Commune, the Jews and Modern Capitalism, or the Russian Revolution or why everyonein Germany began hating jews. No I'm sure it had nothing to do with upper class jews being assholes and it had nothing to do with Weimar Era culture.
>The German jews were all in on a super-secret global conspiracy to destroy Germany!

Ok, so we're in conspiracy theory territory now, right?

>topkek

One of the most influential philosophers of the Enlightenment and his picture of human nature is better than Hobbes' by a long stretch.
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>>2653402
I didnt realize 14 year old Hitler was a mass murderer
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>>2653483
no, he grew up and became one.
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>>2653471
In what way is saying that Hitler was poor yet took care of himself and grieved for his mother cult of personality?

You're the one demonizing him to a ridiculous degree
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>>2653477
>Yes, they did burn pr0nz

Sure thing, buddy
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>>2653454
No

>the war was Germany's Fault

No, it was Britain's Fault but keep being a moron and not reading up on the Treaty of Versailles and just how much of a cunt Churchill was. All they had to do was give Hitler Danzig, but noooo they just had to give the USSR and Germancy a chance to make a NAP.
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>>2653476
China is again running a huge trade surplus ala Qing times, to me its the new 'scramble for africa', a race to the bottom which will drag countries into war.
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>>2653480
>all Roman emporers had one testicle and did not love their mothers
>sources? lol do u really think that normal people would feed Christians to the lions? fuck off
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>>2653489
The treaty of Versailles was lenient and poorly enforced. It was only Britain's fault in so far as they allowed Germany to rearm. Germany had a simple choice to avoid the war: don't invade fucking Poland.

Danzig wasn't theirs to give, nor was it even Poland's.
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>>2653489
the germans were literally fed the sudetenland to keep the peace and they ended up annexing the rest of the country breaking every treaty they had just signed.

Germany acted like a rogue state and proved that it could not be trusted, which is why poland was guaranteed to be protected against german aggression by UK and France.
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>>2653493
So where did you get this idea that anyone claimed Hitler killed people because he had one nut?
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>>2653436
lmao this desperation

Oh yeah, he had huge empathy for GErmans. That's why he threw them as fodder for all his stupid wars, executed hundreds of thousands of non-jewish ones, and hindered their efforts to retreat and flee at every turn. Or why the cuck said that the Germans were worthy of him shortly before blowing his brains out
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>>2653490
and what's it doing with that?

>muh scramble for africa
plenty of european, american and even indian investment in africa you dumbass. The chinese are having problems integrating in places as different as nigeria and South africa.
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>>2653447
By anons fake source account
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>>2653468
Dude just google it ffs

>its hard to get laid
>virgins believe this

>>2653469
>jews serve more per capita

They also left more per capita as well. They also served under Hitler. They also made up the majoroty of the first soviet government and the socialist/ spartacist revolution (rip Rosa), and then engaged in large amounts of corruption under the Weimar Era.

Was it a good thing? No, but you need to understand the frustration of the German people to get why they would be mad a people who really didn't like germans in the first place.
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So, what exactly is the truth here? Are you retards seriously claiming that Hitler did not love and grieve for his mother?
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>>2653498
Because people do that all the time. Where have you been living under a rock doing nothing but larping about on /mu/ lsitening to shitty indie bands?
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>>2653507
Don't you know, Hitler was a subhuman with only one ball incapable of base empathy towards his mother.
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>>2653486
Either you're playing a retard and or are genuinely this stupid.

Not surprising though. You try and figure out why these puppy-dog eyed portrayals of your favorite dictator is trying to achieve. But all those accounts of sexual degeneracy and pathetic angst are just FILTHY JEWISH LIES amirite?
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>>2653488
k whatever pal
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>>2653506
The Jews there were Germans you goddamn scum.

>They also left more per capita as well.

[Citation Needed]

>>2653507
It's a Hitler thread, no one cares.
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>>2653507
Hitler was literally the Devil, don't you know?
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>>2653506
>frustration
yes, frustration that every jew was part of this super seekrit global cabal that was keeping germany down and that the germans were stabbed in the back by them.

Fucking hell, the Allies should have marched into berlin and signed the treaty and shaved willy's mustache
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>>2653514
>you just don't get it man, it's IMPOSSIBLE that Hitler could have loved his own mother, don't you know that anything that humanizes Hitler is wrongthink???? Fucking Nazis I swear
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>>2653513
fuck off samefag. The point is it isn't relevant, and it won't change anyones mind. This foot-in-the-door attempts at historical revisionism is pathetic.
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>>2653480
>bureacratic administrations of genocide

The einzatsgruppen was completely justified in trying to take out partisans. The jews had to leave Germany and the smart ones already did leave under the Havaraa Agreement. Hitler wanted the jews to be expelled.

>its well documented

Thats just a lie. Seriously, Nuremberg was a kangaroo court and most evidence does not support the 6 million death toll for the jews.
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>>2653528
>/pol/estinean
Jew detected
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>>2653514
>puppy-dog eyed portrayals
>being poor and caring and grieving for his mother is now a hagiography

Ah yes I forgot when he literally split the veil between worlds and called forth Cthulhu.

Take your meds anon.
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>>2653527
>humanizes
yes, he loved his mother because he was a human bean.

He was also a deviant freak that lusted after his relative and her commit suicide.
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>>2653528
Hmm
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>>2653495
>lenient

nigger...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

plus the occupation of the ruhr, permenant disarmament (until the League of Nations was coerced), and the taking of Danzig, alsace-lorraine, and the sudentland is not lenient
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>>2653528
This. This kind of shit gets attacked because it's almost always an excuse to start on the "HITLER GOOD BOY DINDU NUFFIN" routine.
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>>2653529
>muh kangaroo court
All of the Nazis on trial knew they were going to die anyways, they would have denied any false claims
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>>2653527
So let me ask, you believe the SS commanders accounts of Hitler. Do you believe that he had his niece take a dump on his chest? Or are you just picking and choosing the narrative?
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>>2653543
because the Weimar government started to print huge amounts of money. It was a problem that the germans themselves caused.

Germany had some of the best recovery during the post war era in the 20s and the places which were largely german would have eventually reunited with germany via plebiscite.
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>>2653543
>Germany lost "Sudetland" in the treaty of Versailles

Ami go home
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>>2653552
>Do you believe that he had his niece take a dump on his chest?
not him, but sauce?
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>>2653535
lmao we got a real edgelord here.
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>>2653540
Yeah he was all kinds of fucked up, but people saying that claims that he loved his mother are Nazi propaganda are ridiculous

>>2653528
>people trying to be OBJECTIVE?!
>NOT ON MY WATCH NAZI SCUM!
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>>2653543
>Germany lost little land and what it did lose was mostly ethnically Polish
>Germany's industry was basically untouched by the war while they ravaged France's; the treaty did not balance that out
>Germany entered the war with Europe's largest continental GDP, exited the war with the same and underwent great economic growth until the depression
>reparations were designed to look much worse than they really were; French/British specifically designed reparations that Germany was able to pay
>total bill that Germany had to pay was $12.5 billion; to appease their populations at home, the allies designed the treaty to look like Germany was paying $33 billion. The Germans were able to turn this around and make it look like they were forced to pay far more than they could afford.

The conditions Germany offered as a PEACE arrangement in 1916 were much more harsh than what they got from what was a fairly unambiguous defeat. And let's not even think about comparing this treaty to what they imposed on the Russian Empire after they won that war.

Just like the Dresden bombing, Germans do this shit to everyone else then cry like victims when it happens to them
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>>2653556
t. Schlomo givemestein isrealburg
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Sure is reddit in here.
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>>2653518
No, they were jews and identified as jews strongly. The ones that didnt fell under the Mischling program

>>2653525
>super secret

it wasn't a secret, it might be now because of the sheer amount of propoganda but yes there was honor among jews because they have high ethnic loyalty and are also extremely neurotic folk. Been around them by whole life, yes they cause lots of trouble and can be massive cunts ad if you knew anything about capitalism, yes, the racial category most responsible for capitalistic banking practices are jewish. Hitler was an anti-capitalist.

>stab in the back

Meh. Sort of true sort of not true.
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>>2653555
A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler His Life and Legend
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>>2653529
>the einsatzgruppen was just taking out partisans!

WE'VE GOT A LIVE ONE HERE BOYS! Their atrocities against civilians are well-documented.

>The jews had to leave Germany and the smart ones already did leave under the Havaraa Agreement.

Let's just ignore the ones that were too poor to do so, or didn't see why they should be forced out of a place where their family had been for centuries.

>Hitler wanted the jews to be expelled.

Which is why he repeatedly says he wanted the Jewish race destroyed in Mein Kampf.

>Thats just a lie. Seriously, Nuremberg was a kangaroo court and most evidence does not support the 6 million death toll for the jews.

Yes it is, no it wasn't, yes it does.

http://imgur.com/gallery/725A7 This is extremely well-sourced.
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>>2653561
Go away crypto-Nazi
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>>2653528
>samefag
yeah, nah. get fucked (((you))) cunt
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>>2653559
t. half-slav cuck-baby
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>>2653274

> systemically kill 11 million people is not something normal functional human beings do

there is literally nothing wrong with removing foreigners and retarded cripples

>The fact I can only find it in news sites and tabloids doesn't mean it's fake

It means its probably clickbait or propoganda
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>>2653561
>it was well known at the time
yes, I am sure you have proof of this not-so-secret cabal of jews that the german jews were a part of.

>sort of true
more like the kriegsmarine didn't want to go on a suicide run when the war was lost.
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>>2653557
Yes, Jimmy. L. Degrelle is an objective, respectable source.
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>>2653543
The fact Germany got to remain a single state, was allowed to eventually rearm, and wasn't just annexed by the neighboring countries is lenient.

You also dodged my second point: they had a simple choice to make to avoid World War 2, and that was to not fucking invade Poland.
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>>2653563
senpai you got a link?
hell the passage where his niece takes a shit on him will do.
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>>2653579
He isn't, but neither is the sun
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>>2653561
>No, they were jews and identified as jews strongly. The ones that didnt fell under the Mischling program

Which is why Jews joined the army during ww1 in overwhelming numbers to prove their loyalty to Germany.
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>>2653506
The first Soviet government was not majority Jewish. The first All-Soviet Central Committee had 39 members, 6 of which were Jews. or 15% Jewish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Committee_elected_by_the_10th_Congress_of_the_Russian_Communist_Party_(Bolsheviks)

I dunno why /pol/ posters always believe their fake propaganda at face value. Try to do a little research yourself
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>>2653574
>alexander's descendents who end up spreading hellenistic culture throughout the levant literally did the opposite of what he said and created some of the most interesting empires in history.

wew
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>>2653574
>Be fat, disgusting, genetically abominable parasite
>call for your own destruction on a cartoon board
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>>2653553
They had no other choice but to print the damn money because wilhelm II took them off the gold standard before the war started, gambling on their victory. The allies knew this damn well and did it anyway

>>2653554
>i see you made a typo

>>2653558
>entered the war with the highest GDP

Real value or nominal topkek either way it doesn't matter by the end of the war now did it? Unless you're going to imply that Austria Hungary did its fair share and that the combined GDP of the French, British, Italian, and Russians were less than the Central Powers?

>the land they lost was ethnically polish

oh boy here we go with muh polish empire. It was Prussian clay, go home
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>>2653593
>its just banter bro, but it sure would be nice if every niggerkike just died tomorrow.
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>>2653417

>german citizens of particular ethnicities

NON GERMANS AREN'T GERMAN

get this through your thick head
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>>2653593
Nice projection.
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>>2653595
>oh boy here we go with muh polish empire. It was Prussian clay, go home

Populated by Poles. They lost the war and had no rights to that land after that.
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>>2653589
i dunno why ledditors can;t accept the fact that even Russian and jewish historians agree on this fact, the majority of the original communist party under lenin was jewish. The jews joined the communists because they hated the tzars

>wikipedia

Maybe look into Solzhenitsyn some time or any reliable authors. Although most of the jews were internationalists so once Stalin rolled around you're pretty much correct.
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>>2653598
German citizens are German, and they were born, raised, and had long standing roots in Germany.
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>>2653595
>Annex your neighbors land
>"this is mine now"
>cry genocide when they take it back
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>>2653583
Well, is there anyone quoting and defendig The Sun ITT?
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>>2653598
>live in germany for centuries
>consider yourself german and fight for the kaiser and the empire
>"NOT GERMAN AND DESERVING OF SYSTEMATIC GENOCIDE REEEE"
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>>2650842
It's a fucking hagiography written by Nazis. Technically it's not fully wrong, but why it omits some vital information's such as: Hitler failing his school, Hitler failing his exam in Vienna, Hitler lying to everyone he is an art student, Hitler living on his mother's money in Vienna and wasting them on operas and theatre, Hitler lying about him working as a manual worker, and so on.

Hitler wasn't a good man. He was a lazy, lying NEET with delusions of grandeur (the text even mentions that he tried to write an opera, of course nothing came out of it).
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>>2653606
All these claims and no sources...
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>>2653474
>Introverts are minority of mankind,
>thus not normal

First of all that not true in the slightest introversion is not reclusivity why morons think this is the reason is beyond me. Its about half and half, some people are more introverted than extroverted, some are the opposite, it all exists in a continua holy shit kys

>commonly accepted view

maybe to high school students who don't know what introverted means?
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>>2653606
Give me your own list of the first all-soviet central committee members then, and prove that the majority are Jewish. OR cry about wikipedia like a low-IQ faggot
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>>2653606
>"the majority of the soviet government was jewish!!!"
>"well here anon is a simple list of soviet government officials and it's clear the majority aren't Jewish"
>WIKIPEDIA LIES!!!!

holy kek what autism
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>>2653595
>They had no other choice but to print the damn money because wilhelm II took them off the gold standard before the war started, gambling on their victory. The allies knew this damn well and did it anyway
so you are saying the allies should have waived off the reparation?
The germans started this shit and they had to pay for it. They were in a great place after the war because their infrastructure and industrial heartland was untouched by the war and instead of deferring payment or borrowing money to pay off the war reparations they decided to devalue their currency by printing too much of it.
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>>2653618
>wikipedia
>a source

no one on the thread is providing sources

>>2653604
>populated by Poles

Yeah fair enough, it was traditionally Polish land, but Hitler wanted it back for economic purposes and because at the time there was still a significant german population there.
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>>2653629
>socialism of the nationalist variety ends up partitioning germany, ethnically cleansing germans from their historic homelands in eastern europe.
poetry.
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>>2653606
First Soviet Central Committee, the ruling power of the USSR

>Vladimir Lenin
>Nikolai Bukharin
>Felix Dzerhinsky
>Mikhail Frunze
>Mikhail Kalinin
>Lev Kamenev (Jewish)
>Mikolay Komarov
>Ivan Kutuzov
>Vasily Mikhailov
>Vyacheslav Molotov
>Grigori Ordhonikidze
>Grigory Petrovsky
>Karl Radek (Jewish)
>Christian Rakovsky
>Janis Rudzutaks
>Alexi Rykov
>Fyodor Sergeyev
>Alexander Shliapnikov
>Joseph Stalin
>Mikhail Tomsky
>Leon Trotsky (Jewish)
>Ivan Tuntul
>Kilment Voroshilov
>Yemelyan Yaroslavsky (Jewish)
>Grigory Zinoviev (Jewish)

I didn't even take the second-tier members into the account which drags the jewish figure down even lower, so I'm throwing you a bone here.

This is not the majority. Not even close.
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>>2653641
Less than one million Germans lived in Poland in 1931. This is hardly a significant German population.
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>>2653641
wikipedia lists the names of the members of the soviet central commitee.
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>>2653627
>All Caps

Does a former head of the KGB count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

Here is Russian President Vladimir Putin in front of jewish historians admitting the commonly accepted fact that the bolsheviks were mainly jewish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM
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>>2653641
>no one on the thread is providing sources

The article does have sources listed at the bottom. One of them is from Harvard University Press.

>>2653641
>Yeah fair enough, it was traditionally Polish land, but Hitler wanted it back for economic purposes and because at the time there was still a significant german population there.

Who cares why he wanted it? He started the war by invading it. Had he not invaded it, WW2 wouldn't have happened.
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>>2653650
>trust the work of academics and historians
>or a balding manlet machoman with a collapsing country that wants be a superpower
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>>2653630
>so you are saying the allies should have waived off the reparation?

To make is less severe so radicalism couldn't run rampant? This was just "muh dick" it had not other strategic advantage other than to cripple Germany

>The germans started ww 1

why is this meme still around?
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>>2653650
Putin isn't an academic.

Personally I suspect this whole "Bolsheviks were mostly Jewish" thing is a propaganda device to curry favor with the orthodox church, because it isn't supported by actual research, like at all.
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>>2653665
>why is this meme still around?

Because they invaded a neutral country and escalated what may very well have stayed a minor conflict in Europe?
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>>2653621
Being a minority is definiton of not being normal.

Also, stop pretending to be retarded. He was not your average introvert, he was much deeper on that scale.

>>2653641
>no one on the thread is providing sources
Wikipedia is sourced, you dumb nigger. There's no reason to doubt that the people mentioned there as ministers, were not actually ministers.
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>>2653659
oh ffs did you miss the part where a bunch of jews nodded in solidarity? Christ almighty why does it bother people to admit that jews took a lot of power in the 20th century?

What are you anti-semitic? Are they just too stupid to not figure things out?
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>>2653650
>Here is Russian President Vladimir Putin in front of jewish historians admitting the commonly accepted fact that the bolsheviks were mainly jewish

None of the heads of the KGB, and only 1 leader of any soviet police apparatus were Jewish. And the one who was Jewish (Yagoda) was actually the least bloody in the pre-WW2 era.

>Here is Russian President Vladimir Putin in front of jewish historians admitting the commonly accepted fact that the bolsheviks were mainly jewish

And yet if you look up a list of every soviet central committee, Jews never made up the majority.

Are you claiming that Putin simply saying something makes it true? Look up each member for yourself.

If you disagree, list what members of the soviet government you think there were and prove the majority were Jewish
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>>2653665
>stop crippling germany
yes, the country that ended up one of the prime aggressors of ww1 and escaped with it's industry intact should be shown leniency.

>ordering the french to vacate their fortifications and hand them over to the german army on the eve of war
>egging the austrians to punish the serbs.
wew
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>>2653645
Third line and you're already wrong.
>Felix Dzerzhinsky was born on 11 September 1877 at the Dzerzhinovo family estate, about 15 km (9.3 mi) away from a small town of Ivyanets, in the Minsk Region, a part of the Russian Empire (today Belarus). His aristocratic family belonged to the former Polish-Lithuanian szlachta (nobility), of the Sulima coat of arms. His father was Lithuanian Jewish
>Lithuanian Jewish
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>>2653676
were those jews academics?
>a bunch of jews nodded this means that the jews have had a lot of power in the 20th century.
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>>2653676
How does "Putin says so" and "some Jews nodded" disprove this? >>2653645
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>>2653666
>leftists are this insance

Oh for fuck... just google it ffs

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_weber.html

>>2653672
>wikipedia is sourced

So is my link but watch people nod it off because it disagrees with them
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>>2653690
>so is my dick
probably because you have one testicle anon.
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>>2653669
>Invaded a neutral country
>Serbia
>Neutral

wew lad
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>>2653694
I didn't realize that gavrilo wasa working under the ausipices of the serbian state.
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>>2653684
Oh now we're counting half-jews now lmao.

But hey, lets take your word for it. That's now 6 out of 25 Jewish, or 24%. Becomes 17% when you add in all members including candidates.
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>>2653690
>he cites the fucking IHR

Oh my god that's fucking hilarious.

>>2653694
I meant Belgium you dingus.
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>>2653693
>lefties are so cock thirsty that they're hallucinating

Yikes
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>>2653688
Soviet Central Committee =/= the whole fucking apparatus of the government.

>wtf how is an entire army just made up of Donald Trump and Mike Pence. Second of all, all of these people still had extremely close relationships with jews.
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>>2653690
How does "Putin says so" and "some Jews nodded" disprove this? >>2653645
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>>2653690
>So is my link

Which one?
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>>2653706
So do you have some actual academic citations?
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>>2653693
>so is my dick

Freud would be proud
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>>2653702
Well you started the desperate
>hitler had 2 fully functional testicles and everyhing else is a jewish lie.
spiel
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>>2653684
It's wrong though. Nothing about him being Jewish in the Polish source.
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>>2653699
>1/4 of the committee is Jewish
>this isn't massive overrepresentation

Keep sniffing that glue
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>>2653713
well, I fucked up.
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>>2650842
Wtf I love Hitler now
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>>2650911
You're right. Where's the stuff like Hitler being a Jew with a scat and piss fetish and one testicle. Also he raped his niece on multiple occasions!
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>>2653698
When someone from a Serbian Nationalist extremist party kills the archduke of your country, yes, you blame the people as well.

>>2653708
>>2653712
>>2653701
>cites wikipedia
>totally fine just check the citations
>cites something other than wikipedia
>sources don't matter

Why don't liberals like to read? Daily reminder that not to fall into the a priori claptrap
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>>2653706
You don't understand the makeup of the Soviet government. The Central Committee was THE supreme organ of power in its early stages. Anyone with influence was on there.

Are you arguing that the majority actual Boklshevik members were Jewish instead of just its leader? Because that's blatantly wrong too. See pic related. Proportionally there were more Finns, Georgians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, and Ossetians in the early Bolsheviks than Jews
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>>2653182

What's with you /pol/fucks diving right for the cuck card every damn time?

Literally all it would take is to offer a primary source, but instead you always start blathering about cucks.
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>>2653717
You're the one that's so gay that you're seeing dicks everywhere
>>2653719
So is Wikipedia not a good source now or what?
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>>2653721
>backpeddling

Nobody disputes them being overrepresented.
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>>2653721
>why isn't the working committee a small scale replica of the diversity of the russian empire???
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>>2653721
>"1/4th is the majority"

keep grasping for straws. You keep claiming they were the majority.

And if we're talking over-represented, you should be crying about Latvians

See >>2653731
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>>2653732
>I need to provide a source that Hitler grieved for his mother

Fuck's sake
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>>2653717
>everything else is a jewish lie

How is me citing his jewish child doctor a jewish lie? First of all, why does the lie have to be jewish, people come up with all sorts of inanse shit about world leaders why do we stop caring about fact just because we don't like a certain person
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>>2653730
The IHR is not an academic site and I aint clicking that shit nigga. Link the sources.

Unlike Wikipedia, the IHR has an agenda other than spreading knowledge (in fact, it's quite the opposite).
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>>2653733
Prove that wikipedia is wrong and these central committee members were majority Jewish

fuck off otherwise
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>>2653738
>>2653731
>the eternal Balt keeping the russian peasant down.
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>>2652675
Hitler can't have loved his mother? He was a human too you know.
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>>2653741
>A claim by a SS commander is reliable
>A claim by a doctor who's Jewish is a lie

hmmm, I wonder if there's any confirmation bias going on here

I mean, I haven't even checked to see if the doctor who said this was Jewish. Knowing you neckbeards he probably wasn't
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>>2653747
Nobody is disputing that. What they're disputing the fact is that this narrative is structured to humanize him and likely just a "foot in the door" attempt to push further bullshit, because it usually is.
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>>2653733
Well, there is nothing about him being Jewish in their source.
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>>2653747
>>2653739
And that doesn't change that hitler ordered the extermination of german nationals, destroyed germany and directly caused the ethnic cleansing of germans in europe
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>>2653731
>William H King, Democratic Senator from Salt Lake City
>Link doesnt work
>(2007)

How well sourced
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>>2653664
FTFY
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>>2653742
Wikipedia has an agenda as well stop pretending otherwise holy shit.

Where does this meme that wikipedia is the absolute incarnation of logos on earth come from?

>>2653749
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Bloch

Fucking kill yourself do you own research.
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>>2653606
Solzhenitsyn was a literal Nazi
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>>2653773
>absolute incarnation
it's a good starting point to read primary and secondary sources.
>uses wikipedia immediately
kek.
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>>2653773
>Where does this meme that wikipedia is the absolute incarnation of logos on earth come from?

Because anyone can edit it, regardless of political affiliation. Wikipedia does not have an agenda to downplay German atrocities and rehabilitate the image of national socialism.

Link the fucking sources so I can see if they're academic or not, because that Wikipedia article does have academic citations.
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>>2653759
>On the eve of the February Revolution in 1917, of about 23,000 members of the Bolshevik party 364 (about 1.6%) were known to be ethnic Jews.

http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/beyond-the-pale/english/39.html

>ccording to the 1922 Bolshevik party census, there were 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total, and in the 1920s of the 417 members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the People's Commissars, 6% were ethnic Jews

The Jewish Enemy: Nazi Propaganda During World War II and the Holocaust. Cambridge: Harvard University Press.

But let me guess. These sources are just jewish cuck lies and we need to believe the protocols of the elders of zion
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>>2653776
>Solzhenitsyn was a literal Nazi

A former Red Army soldier and Nobel Peace Prize winner... a nazi... i think you're onto to something here.
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>>2653776
Poor attempt at false-flag? He literally fought against Nazis.
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>>2653773
>w...wikipedia isn't a source!!!!!
>uses wikipedia

lmao
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It's irrelevant if the Jews were overrepresented in the bolshevik party. Nothing justifies Hitler's war and genocidal practices.
There were many Jews in Polish Communist Party. Did the Poles exterminate them? No, they banned the party and its organizations like many other countries.
I repeat, nothing justifies Hitler's actions.
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>>2653788
Generally I just assume idiocy before malice. From what little I've read about the dude, he seems like an ideologue with an axe to grind against the USSR (not that I blame him) but not a nazi.
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>>2653756
>>2653751
That was probably OP's intention but you still can't dehumanize everything about Hitler.
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>>2653787
He also said that we should abandon technology and live in hovels. He also claimed that the Earth orbited the sun.

More importantly, he included no figures for his claims that the Bolsheviks were majority Jewish. He just said it.
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>>2653799
claimed the sun orbited the earth* damnit
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>>2653795
>I repeat, nothing justifies Hitler's actions.

This. When arguing with /pol/io, never, ever let them sidetrack you from their central issues. Whether or not there were lots of Jewish communists doesn't change the fact what the Nazis did was absolutely monstrous.
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>>2653777
Yes. IHR and Wikipedia are fine starting points. Anything with an agregate of sources us fine.

>>2653782
>they don't shill for national socialism
>they don't shill

pick one

>>2653786
>but let me guess *strawman*

No i just think he's empirically wrong
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>>2653798
no one's trying to.
There's no escaping the fact that the bloke was a sick and twisted arts student that destroyed some of the coolest aspects of german culture.
>>2653799
>>2653801
source on the sun orbiting the earth?
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>>2653795
>Did the Poles exterminate them? No
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>>2653808
Wow so you're claiming these two separate studies are "just wrong".

Where's your more reliable figure?
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>>2653790
see
>>2653773

When the other anon was saying IHR isnt a relieble source, i said neither is wikipedia, its the sources they cite which matter.

Stay in your own bubble though
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>>2653808
how about you post those IHR sources then, That anon posted am actual academic source. Now do the same or fuck off.
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>>2653812
>death camps administered by the nazis
>but physically in poland.
>therefore polan is to blame epic.
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>>2653799
>he was an anarcho primitivist
>therefore a nobel peace prize winning author is a liar

whatever you say pal
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Why weren't Hitler's actions justified? Muh feelings aside what was wrong about killing 6 million people who could potentially represent a Fifth Column?
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>>2653814
i linked people to a bunch read the thread faggot

>ctr+f+ihr
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Why is 4chan such a Nazi sh*thole? I swear to fucking god I hoped for /his/ to be better than this yet this board is already overrun by /pol/-tards.

STOP DEFENDING HITLER YOU F*CKING SH*THEADS!

It's neither funny, nor edgy or anything else. It's just f*cking stupid ffs.

You can't even joke about Hitler having one ball any more without some alt-right f*ck from /pol/ being offended about his fuhrer's majesty having been insulted. As soon as you mention that Capitalism might not be great, that sexism, homophobia, etc. is bad, everyone here freaks out. This is why 4chan will never be taken seriously in the academic discourse or anywhere else. This is why celebrities and anyone with a shred of decency doesn't come here.

I'm finished with this retarded website. Feel free to cry about butthurt or whatever, I don't care.

I'd recommend everyone interested in having a serious discussion about history to come to AskHistorians on a website I won't mention because everyone will lose his sh*t otherwise, but you should easily be able to find it via google.
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>>2653824
Well he didn't provide a source for his statement, so in this case he is a liar.
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>>2653815
>Claims that Pleb-pedia is equal in retardation to I "Holocaust didn't happened" R
>Tells people to "stay in their bubble"

Are you a furry or something?
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>>2653833
kek

this has to be pasta
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>>2653833
Calm down and look what time it is.
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>>2653833
It's because 4chan is inhabited mainly by socially awkward children who get ostracized IRL and they want to sound edgy on the internet
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>>2653843
>kek
nice alt-right meme
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>>2653808
Wikipedia doesn't shill.

IHR does shill for national socialism.

What's your fucking point?

Also no, IHR is not a fine starting point, it has a very specific agenda.
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>>2653829
Yeah, Poles should have murdered all those ethnic Germans before the war. Fucking Selbstschutz showed that Germans couldn't be trusted.
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>>2653833

one less faggot shitposting on my board
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>>2653835
>he hasn't read Solzhenitsyn

Read his books faggot

>>2653833
>AskHistorians

Yes leave, go back to r*ddit and never come back, you have the emotional capability of a child, you belong in the hugbox.

>can't even joke

It isn't a joke people believe it, and its historicall inaccurate.
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>>2653815
LINK THE IHR SOURCES YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
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>>2653832
Post your "more reliable" and "not wrong" sources that show the majority of the soviet government and the majority of the CPSU were Jewish. I mean your argument is literally "nuh uh it's just wrong because muh feels" by this point.

Stop trying to squirm your way out
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>>2653849
are you new?

kek orginated on Warcraft and is just another way to express amusement like 'lol' before /pol/ adopted it as a name for their frog memes.
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>>2653857
does he have academic citations?
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>>2653857
You retards joke about the holocaust being fake while genuinely believing it too.
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>>2650842
Have always admired him desu
A tragic great hero
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>>2653832
Tip of the day: "I already posted it" "find it yourself" "google it" etc is always a sign you've lost the argument and have nothing left. You just think having the last word makes you right.
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>>2653851
>cite jewish and slavic sources
>shilling natsoc sources

K

>>2653838
Ffs the point is that website are a gatewat to sources not the sources themselves.
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>>2653870
DEUS VAULT
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sorry, wrong pic.
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>>2653833

>sh*t

too obvious. You can't pull into too much bait at once, you need to hold some back so the rest is more believable.
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>>2653858
go to the goddamn link and look them up ffs

>ctr+f+ihr

>>2653861
>muh feels

I just posted counter evidence how the fuck is that pathos

>>2653872
lrn2 to use 4chan

by pressing the "ctr" key then pressing the "f" key, one can then use the key word serch bar

>search "ihr"

go
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>>2653890
how about you post the actual sources?
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>>2653896
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_weber.html

go to this ^^^^^ at the bottom of the page are the actual sources
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>>2653890
>go to the goddamn link and look them up ffs

I'm not giving a holocaust denial website hits, asshole. We can only safely assume that since you haven't linked the sources that they're either absent or non-academic.
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>>2653901
>expecting us to give that page hits

Nope. Link them or concede the point.
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>>2653901
either you post the actual sources and not the gateway or you fuck off
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>>2653870
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>>2653875
>Ffs the point is that website are a gatewat to sources not the sources themselves.

Well, then why are you delaying the inevitable with this shitposting? Cite the sources of your beloved revisionists, or be gone!
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>>2653911
I cri everytiem ;(
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>>2653907
>>2653909
>>2653918

Do you guys just not know what non-electronic sources are? At the bottom of the page in Italics are the sources? How the fuck does /his/ not know proper sourcing that doesn't come from some shit tier blog?

To access these sources you need to go to library or search google scholar

Edvard Radzinksy, The Last Tsar (New York: Doubleday, 1992), pp. 327, 344-346.; Bill Keller, "Cult of the Last Czar," The New York Times, Nov. 21, 1990.
From an April 1935 entry in "Trotsky's Diary in Exile." Quoted in: Richard Pipes, The Russian Revolution (New York: Knopf, 1990), pp. 770, 787.; Robert K. Massie, Nicholas and Alexandra (New York: 1976), pp. 496-497.; E. Radzinksy, The Last Tsar (New York: Doubleday, 1992), pp. 325-326.; Ronald W. Clark, Lenin (New York: 1988), pp. 349-350.
On Wilton and his career in Russia, see: Phillip Knightley, The First Casualty (Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1976), pp. 141-142, 144-146, 151-152, 159, 162, 169, and, Anthony Summers and Tom Mangold, The File on the Tsar (New York: Harper and Row, 1976), pp. 102-104, 176.
AP dispatch from Moscow, Toronto Star, Sept. 26, 1991, p. A2.; Similarly, a 1992 survey found that one-fourth of people in the republics of Belarus (White Russia) and Uzbekistan favored deporting all Jews to a special Jewish region in Russian Siberia. "Survey Finds Anti-Semitism on Rise in Ex-Soviet Lands," Los Angeles Times, June 12, 1992, p. A4.
At the turn of the century, Jews made up 4.2 percent of the population of the Russian Empire. Richard Pipes, The Russian Revolution (New York: 1990), p. 55 (fn.).
By comparison, in the United States today, Jews make up less than three percent of the total population (according to the most authoritative estimates).
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>>2653833
This has to be b8, no one can really be this much of a sheltered libtard
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>>2653918
acces the link then go to the bottom of the fucking page all of my keks right not

Yeah some history board this is. Do you guys not know what MLA format is either?
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>>2653940

thats only part of it I'm not copypasta-ing something you lazy fucks can just access
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>>2653790
>anti-Zionist and pro-Palestine = Nazis
There you go again Schlomo
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>>2653949
You don't get it do you? You need to support your arguments with sources supporting your argument, not list random ones.

You claimed that Jews formed majority of Soviet gov. None of these sources support your claim.
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>>2653988
because im not going to copypasta the entire fucking sheet of sources used in one whole article when you can

first of all read the fucking article then check the citation number after every paragraph, go down to the bottom of the page, and look at them yourself.

/his/ has to be the most retarded history discussion forum in history is it doesn't know that this is how proper research works.

See individual entries in: H. Shukman, ed., The Blackwell Encyclopedia of the Russian Revolution (Oxford: 1988), and in: G. Wigoder, ed., Dictionary of Jewish Biography (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1991).
The prominent Jewish role in Russia's pre-1914 revolutionary underground, and in the early Soviet regime, is likewise confirmed in: Stanley Rothman and S. Robert Lichter, Roots of Radicalism (New York: Oxford, 1982), pp. 92-94.
In 1918, the Bolshevik Party's Central Committee had 15 members. German scholar Herman Fehst -- citing published Soviet records -- reported in his useful 1934 study that of six of these 15 were Jews. Herman Fehst, Bolschewismus und Judentum: Das jüdische Element in der Führerschaft des Bolschewismus (Berlin: 1934), pp. 68-72.; Robert Wilton, though, reported that in 1918 the Central Committee of the Bolshevik party had twelve members, of whom nine were of Jewish origin and three were of Russian ancestry. R. Wilton, The Last Days of the Romanovs (IHR, 1993), p. 185.
After years of official suppression, this fact was acknowledged in 1991 in the Moscow weekly Ogonyok. See: Jewish Chronicle (London), July 16, 1991.; See also: Letter by L. Horwitz in The New York Times, Aug. 5, 1992, which cites information from the Russian journal "Native Land Archives."; "Lenin's Lineage?"'Jewish,' Claims Moscow News," Forward (New York City), Feb. 28, 1992, pp. 1, 3.; M. Checinski, Jerusalem Post (weekly international edition), Jan. 26, 1991, p. 9.

Here are some of the ones attributed to the jewish proportions within the bolsheviks
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>>2654016
This won't work just by pasting some link that doesn't even claim what you're claiming. The list of ruling Bolshevik officials has already been provided, as have their ethnicity. You have to prove the majority were secretly Jewish.
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>>2654016
>Herman Fehst: Bolschewismus und Judentum: Das jüdische Element in der Führerschaft des Bolschewismus (1934)
So this was your source all along?

>After years of official suppression, this fact was acknowledged in 1991 in the Moscow weekly Ogonyok. See: Jewish Chronicle (London), July 16, 1991.; See also: Letter by L. Horwitz in The New York Times, Aug. 5, 1992, which cites information from the Russian journal "Native Land Archives."; "Lenin's Lineage?"'Jewish,' Claims Moscow News," Forward (New York City), Feb. 28, 1992, pp. 1, 3.; M. Checinski, Jerusalem Post (weekly international edition), Jan. 26, 1991, p. 9.

wtf is this trying to say? That's not how academic citation should look
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>>2653890
You still haven't demonstrated how the majority of people here are Jewish:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Committee_elected_by_the_10th_Congress_of_the_Russian_Communist_Party_(Bolsheviks)

I'll list all the names again if wikipedia triggers you
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>>2654016
>In 1918, the Bolshevik Party's Central Committee had 15 members. German scholar Herman Fehst -- citing published Soviet records -- reported in his useful 1934 study that of six of these 15 were Jews

Wrong, it had 26 members, 6 of which were Jewish. Moreover the 1918 central committee wasn't the first soviet government, which is what your original claim was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Committee_elected_by_the_7th_Congress_of_the_Russian_Communist_Party_(Bolsheviks)

It seems you don't understand basic history.
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>>2654039
>In 1918, the Bolshevik Party's Central Committee had 15 members. German scholar Herman Fehst -- citing published Soviet records -- reported in his useful 1934 study that of six of these 15 were Jews. Herman Fehst, Bolschewismus und Judentum: Das jüdische Element in der Führerschaft des Bolschewismus (Berlin: 1934), pp. 68-72.; Robert Wilton, though, reported that in 1918 the Central Committee of the Bolshevik party had twelve members, of whom nine were of Jewish origin and three were of Russian ancestry. R. Wilton, The Last Days of the Romanovs (IHR, 1993), p. 185.


YOU DIDNT EVEN READ THE FUCKING PASTA I GAVE YOU

No i know what being a mother is, i just served you pasta read it ffs I'm not getting you anything else. Wikipedia is citing Fehst not Wilton, of course because Wilton citing this statistic while he was actually present at the revolution said that jews were the majority, so they called him an anti-semite. This was aknowledged by Putin and by many jews

which i posted already and I'll post it again

read

the

pasta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

how much more do i need to hold your hand?
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>>2654016
So this is the power of revisionists? German historian from 1934 (lol), like 3 academic books and their own articles?

Do they even go to archives and do similar stuff?
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>>2654016
>Wilton was accused of being a right-wing antisemite. He was a proponent of blood libel, claiming in his 1920 book The Last Days of the Romanovs[3] that the execution of the Romanovs was a ritual murder by the Jews
>Acdcording to Semyon Reznik Wilton also assisted Russian antisemites in fabrication of photographic evidence of ritual crimes by Jews.

See how quickly your theories fall apart? How long until you acknowledge it and abandon this thread?
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>>2654080
>This was aknowledged by Putin and by many jews

as being right

>>2654046
No, Wilton is the source where 80% of the government were jewish. That ebil german nazi actually had the lesser estimate that people were posting earlier in the thread.
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>>2654091
Yeah and guess what, if you had read the rest of the fucking pasta you woould've realize that Wilton was exonerated, which your shitty little wikipedia article that you just pasta'd from doesn't mention.
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>>2654083
No the german was the one with the lesser estimate fucking goddamnit why can't /his/ read?
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>>2654101
>in a moscow weekly paper
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>>2654101
You are not writing rationally. R. Wilton has a clear agenda, he is not a man to be trusted.
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>>2654120
>jewish chronicle
>new york times

FFS LEARN TO READ IM ON THE FUCKING EDGE NOW

KHORNE WILL HAVE BLOOD SOON
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>>2654080
That specific citation was wrong. You used the 6 out of 15 (still not the majority btw) were Jewish figure. This is not the case.

Prove to me that the listed members of the central committee were majority Jewish

I don't care what Putin said. It doesn't make it true. He provided no evidence.
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>>2654092
But this is not a source. This is not how historians work. Where are personal files, statistics, birth certificates and similar stuff? You're clearly no try a historian if you think that hearsay and sensationalist articles from the press are enough.
>>
Prove the majority of people here were Jewish

>Vladimir Lenin
>Nikolai Bukharin
>Felix Dzerhinsky (half-Jewish)
>Mikhail Frunze
>Mikhail Kalinin
>Lev Kamenev (Jewish)
>Mikolay Komarov
>Ivan Kutuzov
>Vasily Mikhailov
>Vyacheslav Molotov
>Grigori Ordhonikidze
>Grigory Petrovsky
>Karl Radek (Jewish)
>Christian Rakovsky
>Janis Rudzutaks
>Alexi Rykov
>Fyodor Sergeyev
>Alexander Shliapnikov
>Joseph Stalin
>Mikhail Tomsky
>Leon Trotsky (Jewish)
>Ivan Tuntul
>Kilment Voroshilov
>Yemelyan Yaroslavsky (Jewish)
>Grigory Zinoviev (Jewish)
>Vlas Chubar
>Sergei Gusev (Jewish)
>Sergei Kirov
>Aleksei Kiselyov
>Valerian Kuybyshev
>Vladimir Milyutin
>Valerian Osinsky
>Georgy Safarov
>asily Schmidt
>Ivan Simirnov
>Daniil Sulimov
>Nikolai Uglanov
>Pyotr Zalutsky
>Isaak Zelensky (Jewish)

Or get the fuck out
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>>2654145
Robert Wilton was a british jouranlist who was present in St. Petersburg at the time of the Bolshevik revolution, Herman Fehst actually had a lower estimate than that. using published Soviet Sources on the estimates of the time that found 6 of 15 of the original committee members were jewish. The number tends to fluctuate and people disagree on the number based on party lines, but I already posted my sources which have jewish authors behind them.
First of all, how the fuck does /his/ not know that wikipedia is maintained by self admitted marxists at any an all time? Like literal third worldists and socialists, syndicalists sympathetic to rosa luxembourg? It has literally never been credible, sources are all that matter.
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>>2654172
I just did. There weren't 26 members of the central committee. Thats my claim, no you provide evidence to me for a change.

>this is not a source

Ffs if you want to read their books i can give you those. If you want to inspect the actual sources as in>>2654150

study harder at uni then take a trip abroad to europe , write a book about what you find, make money.
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>>2654191
>I just did. There weren't 26 members of the central committee. Thats my claim, no you provide evidence to me for a change.

What addtional members do you claim there were? List them
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>>2654175
I don't care about your marxist conspiracy theories. Demonstrate that the majority of these people were >>2654172 jewish or fuck off
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>>2654172
Dzierzhinsky wasn't a half Jew. Wikipedia is wrong. There is nothing about him being a half-Jew in any Polish sources. In fact there is even a retarded right-wing conspiracy about him being a Jew who stole identity of a real Felix Dzierzhynsky. They try everything to make him a Jew.
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>>2654175
Wikipedia is biased but Wilton and random Nazi sovietologist are OK?
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>>2654197
>additional members

>>2654202

there were less members than 26 thats the goddamn claim how has this not sunk in yet? I posted jouranalists and historians who back up Wilton's original claim, and even the head of the Russian government coming out and admitting this to apologize for communism.

What more do you ask? At this point you're just pushing a conspiracy theory, as you have no evidence to back up your claims except for something you saw on a shitty wiki blog.
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>>2654175
And a journalist isn't a good source.
>Soviet sources
So why didn't they cite those sources?
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>>2654206
Wilton? Yes i posted jewish sources who agreed with him ffs. Not sure how herman fehst holds up, but he has a book you could READ ffs
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>>2654212
Oh, so you're claiming these people weren't party of the central committee now? You'll stoop to anything huh.

Post source that lists central committee members in this time that says they're not apart of it.
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>>2654215
he was a journalist who witnessed communist lining people up in the streets and massacring christians and ethnic slavs, you really think the soviet union is a reliable source? the world had no idea about the gulags until Solzhenitsyn blew the lid off of it.

Churchill and FDR intentionally hid the war crimes of the Soviet Union from the rest of the world just to defeat Hitler. No, soviet sources are not fucking reliable.
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>>2654238
just go back to my original pasta that claimed there were less committee members already? One said 6/15, the other said 8/12, maybe you failed math, but neither 6/15 or 8/2 =/= 5/26
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>>2654224
>but he has a book you could READ ffs
I don't even sprechen deutsh, so no I could not. Not to mention its literally unknown worthless shite.

>Yes i posted jewish sources who agreed with him ffs.
Which ones?
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>>2654247
You provide the numbers but not the names. List the 15 and the 12 then which ones were Jewish. The numbers of the central committee aren't in dispute, it was very clear who was and wasnt' a member
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>>2654247
Or maybe they are both wrong and a number provided by actual historians is more reliable. You know, it makes sense.
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>>2654242
>he was a journalist...
He was a "journalist" that made up evidence for assasination of Tsar's familly was a Jewish ritual murder.

He's as discredited as they get.
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>>2654242
Yes, the Soviet archives are actually pretty reliable. They wouldn't lie to themselves.

And GULAG system wasn't a secret. There is Polish propaganda and books about it from 1930s.
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>>2654254
Wilton has a book, and so does Fehst. Just google them ffs i am not your nanny.

>>2654257
>actual historians

/his/ confirmed for retards, these are historians. A guy who had access to soviet archives in 1934 and a guy present at the Russian Revolution are historians. Maybe historian disagree on numbers and events and people and logistics and dates and sources and shit, and maybe, just maybe, telling yourself to remain in a little hugbox where no one is allowed to disagree with your preferred sources is resting on the a priori a little too much?
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>>2654270
No i already fucking told this goddamn site that he was EXONERATED - meaning he was accused of something he didn't do and in the 90's was EXONERATED

Holy shit wikipedia is not the sum total of all logos

>>2654275
No they lied to themselves all the time, that was a core fact of living under Stalinism and communism in general - people LIED to you all the time.

Go read the Gulag Archipelago and stfu
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>>2654275
alright fuck this, i posted a link for you faggots to follow now go follow it or recuse yourselves of being challenged by what ought to be something easily debunked.

you can't rely on a priori assumptions of events in history nor can you rely government sources all the goddamn time - especially when said sources conflict with each other all the time

just look into something historical to sharpen your wits ffs /his/ learn to read

i have shit to do
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>>2654290
>No i already fucking told this goddamn site that he was
And..? You could link us how and why was he exonerated. Not to mention even if he was, he's still worthless.
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>>2654281
History evolves like other fields. A book from 1934 written by a guy praised by the Institute for Study of the Jewish Question is hardly reliable. And journalists are never reliable. How did he know they are all Jews? Did he ask them? Make surveys? Or maybe he just reported what their anti-Semitic enemies said?
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>>2654290
They lied to people. But there was no reason for them to lie to themselves in their official confidential documents.
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>>2654309
Someone plz post the Hitler's quote about how Jews argue.

This is exactely the point when Jew get's defeated and marches out in victory.
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>>2653391
That whole post is opinions: the post
Suck a dick fag
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>>2653735
but that's exactly what normies argue for today,except in America
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>>2653765
That's what happened because Germany lost the war though. If Germany won it would be like the other anon's pic
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>>2653391
Regurgitated, unsourced wikipedia articles are my favorite
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>>2654388
yes, I would rather show my infographics that are blatantly wrong and tell that it is le secret knowledge the jews are hiding from whites.
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>>2654370
No. There would be a short period of Cold War between the Nazis and the USA. I doubt the Reich would survive for a long time. And I'm sure the Slavs wouldn't just give up that easily. There would be constant uprisings and Slavic terrorism against German officials and civilians.
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>>2654364
normies don't give a shit.
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>>2654408
/his/ is no better than /pol/ if it posts unsourced caps pretending to be superior. The fact that you react by instantly insinuating me as a /pol/tard is evidence enough that you're just a paranoid and idiotic as the fucks 9 boards down.
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>>2654330
I'm back, and no im not holding your hands in this, i posted an article you didn't read and posted the citations that you didn't read.

Thats not arguing, thats me posting evidence you refuse to recognize or even read. Second of all, that quote is Goebbels not Hitler but then again i dont expect some illterate moron to have a memory past that of a goldfish

>>2654329
Dude they lied to each other all the time, even officially.
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>>2654436
i just had to teach 5 or so people how to read basic citations, /pol/ is garbage but at least they are autistic enough to actually read the sources.

This board is just /pol/ with less autism but more retardation.
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>>2654446
Please provide some examples of their lies.
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>>2654311
I already posted the fucking sources i swear to God if someone asks me one more time to read shit for them i will officially claim this board as being nothing /b/tards larping about being historians forever.
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>>2654475
And these are not good sources.
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>>2654469
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>>2654479
>H. Shukman, ed., The Blackwell Encyclopedia of the Russian Revolution (Oxford: 1988), and in: G. Wigoder, ed., Dictionary of Jewish Biography (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1991).
>The prominent Jewish role in Russia's pre-1914 revolutionary underground, and in the early Soviet regime, is likewise confirmed in: Stanley Rothman and S. Robert Lichter, Roots of Radicalism (New York: Oxford, 1982), pp. 92-94.
>In 1918, the Bolshevik Party's Central Committee had 15 members. German scholar Herman Fehst -- citing published Soviet records -- reported in his useful 1934 study that of six of these 15 were Jews. Herman Fehst, Bolschewismus und Judentum: Das jüdische Element in der Führerschaft des Bolschewismus (Berlin: 1934), pp. 68-72.; Robert Wilton, though, reported that in 1918 the Central Committee of the Bolshevik party had twelve members, of whom nine were of Jewish origin and three were of Russian ancestry. R. Wilton, The Last Days of the Romanovs (IHR, 1993), p. 185.
>After years of official suppression, this fact was acknowledged in 1991 in the Moscow weekly Ogonyok. See: Jewish Chronicle (London), July 16, 1991.; See also: Letter by L. Horwitz in The New York Times, Aug. 5, 1992, which cites information from the Russian journal "Native Land Archives."; "Lenin's Lineage?"'Jewish,' Claims Moscow News," Forward (New York City), Feb. 28, 1992, pp. 1, 3.; M. Checinski, Jerusalem Post (weekly international edition), Jan. 26, 1991, p. 9.

THESE ^^^^^^^ are bad sources? Well please tell me which publishers you prefer then.
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>>2654481
So you can't?
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>>2654494
>>2654494
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>>2654497
>>2654493
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>>2654493
Yes, these are bad sources. Again, where are surveys or personal files? Books and articles are not primary sources. Nazi historians and anti-Semitic journalists also aren't very reliable.
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>>2654494
You know what the saddest part about all this is? Not one fucking person has actually read that article i posted, because this article even goes so far to say that it disagrees with the nazis completely on how they dealt with jews on the basis of accusing them as being natural communists, instead blaming jews turning to communism on the ethnic hatred towards tsarist russia via the pograms they enforced on jews.

But fuck it, /his/ cant read.
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>>2654512
The point of those fucking aticels is that you're supposed to look them up, find the primary sources they used, then

RESEARCH IT YOURSELF ffs the articles are written by historians, you can look up those historians and their works and see them for yourself.

/his/ is becoming more and more retarded than /pol/ with every passing second.
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>>2654516
Historians should study the past, not agree or disagree with certain policies. This is ideology, not modern history.
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>>2654521
Revisionists aren't real historians and this article doesn't even look like a professional article written by historians.

The problem is that there are no primary sources there.
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>>2654529
There is something called "context", its a word historians use to examine how A proceeds to B, and its something which people tend to disagree on a lot when study the "context" of historical events.

When is said "disagreed with the nazis" it means they disagreed that the jews were solely responsible for communism based on evidence and give "context" to why jews were so over represented.

This is also sad, because you also obviously havent read the fucking article.

/his/ is officially a worse circlejerk than /pol/ or leddit or even 8ch*n
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>>2654541
they cite both primary sources and secondary sources to prove their fucking point.

So they have raw evidence and introduce people to the other side of the argument as a revisionist anything tends to do.

God help this board, i think its too late.
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Isn't it funny how hundreds of eyewitnesses, military reports, testimonies, speeches, civilian reports, statistics and other documents are not enough to prove the holocaust, but few books, journalists and sensationalist articles are sufficient to prove a vast Jewish communist conspiracy?
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>>2654567
What are their primary sources? An anti-semitic journalist and a Nazi historian? Something else?
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>>2654586
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_weber.html

Like preaching to the goddamn stones with you morons, NO i told this thread maybe 10 times already, Wilton was exonerated of any antisemitism , and even if he was anti-semetic is doesn't fucking matter, the entire sheet of sources, primary and secondary, are not all from Wilton

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_weber.html
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>>2654610
There is not a single primary source in this article.
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>>2654623
>i didn't see a graph
>there are no primary sources

Surely you are trolling
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>>2654631
Are there? They just quote numerous articles, some book, like Conquest and Piper and journalists. These are not primary sources.
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>>2654631
ffs i already linked you to Robert Wilton, he was a British journalist who wrote about his experience living in St Petersburg during the Russian Revolution, that in itself is a Primary source. Yes, a bunch of those links have primary sources in them.
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>>2654657
>>2654684
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>>2654684
He is not a reliable source. Are journalists living in Poland during WW2 writing about 20 million people murdered by fascist beasts a reliable source?

Show me these primary sources from those other articles.
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>>2654705
oh fuck off, get a little less high then read through source list
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>>2654720
So you can't name a single reliable primary source? No wonder revisionists are treaded like a joke by the community. Your article is a blog post, not something written by a serious historian.
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>>2654727
No you're just too high to understand that eyewitness reports are primary sources. If you're too stupid to understand this that means you're either high or are experiencing cognitive dissonance

You refuse to read through and look up the sources because you're a troll who is wasting my time. I don't have time for idiots.
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>>2654743
So now eyewitness testimonies are great sources? I hope you believe all those Jewish testimonies from the camps then.
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>>2654751
Nope. I don't trust them because I believe other people. You can believe whoever you want, but facts are facts, and the the facts are that there weren't 26 members of the central committee, historians and jouranalists alike agree on this notion, and Wilton was exonerated of being an anti-semite, which isn't a bad thing

Why criticizing jews is seen as a priori bad is beyond me.

Unlike Herman Rosenblat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SQWB36uKkw

Wilton didn't lie. Plus you still STILL haven't read the fucking article or the sources, you are just dancing around one topic of the whole article.
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>>2654751
i mean at this rate you're going to say

>is anything real how do you even know the soviet union exists

So there is really no point, this is just sheer cognitive dissonance.
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>>2654781
>Wilton didn't lie.

For thousand and first time Wilton is not a valid source, you dumb nigger. He's a propagandist.
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>>2653274
...
Are you stupid?
No one thinks 'WE ARE EVIL AND WE'RE DOING THIS TO BE EVIL'.

People are their own heros, they think they're doing good. In his case, be believed jews were a threat to Germany due to the anti-semetic culture he was raised in and exposed to.
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>>2654781
You're one dumb moron. No, these are not valid sources. A Nazi historian and a journalist involved with the White movement are not reliable in any way.

There are good studies about Jews in communist parties, but this is not one of them.
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