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Kingdoms claiming others' thrones

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Recently I've been interested in the politics of Europe with regards to royalty and different kingdoms taking others' thrones. The War of Spanish Succession and such interest me. I'm not knowledgeable about this subject. Can we get a thread going about this subject?
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You'll have an amazing time when you hear about The Hundred Years war
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>convincing a bunch of soldiers to fight and die, so that one rich guy can be in charge instead of another rich guy

how did the nobles at the time convince people to do this?
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>>2641453
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>>2642721
I pay/feed you, which allows you to survive.
So....go kill those guys.

Works surprisingly well.
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>>2642721
how many layers of irony are you on?
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>>2642721
A lot of the times even lower ranking nobles (all the way down to knights) could be rewarded with lands, titles, incomes, etc.

Plus peasants didn't fight very often, especially in winter. There was no mass conscription.
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Well that's why you end up with conglomerate states, most of the time it was political maneuvering and shrewdness, like strategic marriages and alliances.
The creation of the Kalmar Union, a Danish led conglomerate state of all 3 Scandinavian countries, was formed by the political master play of Margrethe I and without a single drop of blood.
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>>2642721
"Trickle down" was more than a meme in the feudal world, you generally wanted your lord to do well so 1) he'd reward you and 2) he'd have extra stuff to reward you with in the first place.
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>>2642721
Yeah, I mean I guess it'd be better to put some effort in when you're going to pushed into battle by spear point, but morale must have been pathetic.

I understand religion, nationalism, etc. but some distant King?
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>>2645883
Money
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>>2641453
>Kingdoms claiming

Okay let me stop you right there.

Generally speaking it's people claiming multiple titles and then passing them on in a single dynastic line.

A kingdom itself as an abstract didn't really claim another kingdom.

Post-Classical to Pre-Westphalian European politics are extremely personal, and only slightly less personal after that up until the start of the 20th century.
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>>2645883
>but some distant King

Your local lord whom you probably know personally and are obligated to assist. Who in turn is obligated to assist a baron, who is obligated to assist a count, who is obligated to assist a duke, who is obligated to assist the King.
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