>The Greeks were accepting of homosexuals

>>2638761
It's not gay since it's a boipucci

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>homosexuality existed in ancient greece

>>2638767
Only if he's wearing a skirt.

>>2638761
>Modern views of same sex relationships applied to societies that existed 2500 years ago
>"Accepting" and "homosexuals"
>You making any point

>>2638761
>the greeks had a concept of homosexuality
Fuck off stormnigger.

>>2639043
>the greeks had a concept of homosexuality
Fuck off tumblr weenie

>>2638767
That's called an anus anon.
>>2638761
Also, was there even a concept of homosexuality, or sexuality at all, in a categorical sense?

>>2639172

no.

it wasn't an identity. it was just a thing you did. they all had wives and kids, they just fucked boys on the side while teaching them stuff.

they also didn't fuck ass or do oral. only intercrural sex.

>>2639172
>>2639230
This.
Exclusively liking men was a distinct thing, just not more noticeable than the modern equivalent of someone always ordering extra spicy dishes.
>Fucking Patroclus always orders extra Tabasco. I mean, a little spice is alright but he only eats shit with the scovilles up to 3,000,000

>>2639230
>they also didn't fuck ass or do oral. only intercrural sex
>intercrural: of the leg or relating to the hind limb

Anyone care to explain this further?
I'm wholly intrigued.

>>2639697
Apply oil to partner's thighs, insert dick between them

>>2639703
>they also didn't fuck ass or do oral. only intercrural sex.
holy fuck I had no idea

>reddit doesn't know about intercrural sex

>>2638777
>>2638856
>>2639043
>>2639172
Y'all niggas didn't get the post. He was saying that people who say this are retarded, not that it's true.

>>2639706
Roman male citizens could penetrate male slaves or prostitutes orally or anally without shame, but if they wanted to suck dick or get fucked themselves they were made fun of.

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>>2639703
But doesn't this imply that full penetrative sex with another man was some sort of taboo then? Like i honestly always assumed that they were bumming each other because it wasn't considered degenerate/sinful/whatever. Now you say it was some sort of simulatory deal. There must be more to this. I'm skeptical really, but I'd like to see some sources.

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>>2638761
>the native american tribes were peaceful before the europeans came

Greeks did do homosexual anal sex though. It's mentioned in many examples of Greek literature. Not everyone saw it as acceptable, particularly Spartans and Athenians, who lots consider the only real Greeks. Basically no one had issues with intercurral sex.

>>2639708
Lol, you're the only idiot I see here. They were making points about nominalist labelling of sexual identities being absent in ancient Greece, which you completey overlooked.

>>2639723
Dude even 10% of gays today do not have anal sex.

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>>2639893
>Be gay
>not even have anal sex

what the absolute fuck.

>>2640075
We do fisting instead in my relationship

>>2640080
It's all dumb and games until someone loses a watch

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>"/his/torians" still don't understand the institution of Greek pederasty

>>2639890
Except OP was never saying that these labels applied to ancient Greece, but was rather making fun of people who apply this label.

>>2639750
Depends on the region senpai. California Indians were usually /comfy/.

>>2640080
How do you do that keep a straight face. Have you ever stopped and thought, wtf am i doing? Like its equally weird to do that to a girl. Fisting lol. Ill never understand it.

>>2639707
fucking normies reeeee

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Reminder that this is what all boys in ancient Greece looked like

>>2641117
>he

>>2639750
This.
The North vs South of America seems to be an eternal tale.

>>2638761
Nah. Homosexuals were made fun of constantly. If a man had a homosexual relationship with a young man, with the old man being the dominant, that wasn't even gay. That was just normal.

>>2641126
Has

>>2641230
That's what the OP is saying you dense motherfucker. It was fine to fuck young guys, but it wasn't considered acceptable for two men of equal standing to have a relationship.

>>2639723
>Why, oh why, did people in ancient times before the invention of sophisticated toilet facilities, or readily available enemas, refrain from anal sex?

Gee man, I don't know. It's a fucking mystery.

>It's a "homosexuality didn't exist because they weren't equal in social standing" episode

Pseudo-intellectual gender studies majors pls go.

>>2638761
"acepting" is an understatement, they literally believed that sex with young men was better than sex with women and only had sex with women when they wanted children.

there was no such thing as homosexuality before the 20th century. homosexuality is a psyop by the demiurge to confuse us and keep us trapped in these prisons we call our bodies

>>2638761
They were NOT accepting homosexuals, but rather they WERE homosexuals.

>>2642459
I love this theory

>>2641459

not all people, but some did. it was more of like a food preference like >>2639258 said. as long as they did their citizen's duty and had kids it wasn't a big deal.

interestingly enough, in rome cunnilingus was considered to be THE most faggy thing you could do. people found out you ate pussy? you were the laughing stock of your friend group. it's like being into tranny porn now. a lot of people may dabble in it, but if anyone finds out you will never hear the end of it.

>>2641409

we're not saying dudes fucking didn't exist. we're saying that they didn't have a word for the homosexual identity as we consider it today, so drawing a direct parallel between our society to theirs doesn't really work. that's why the intricacies of the fucker and the fuckee are important; they actually mattered to how one's identity was seen, unlike today today, where we have the one-drop rule: if you're attracted to anything male at all you're gay.

They weren't accepting of homos because everyone was bi. Homosexuality implies exclusive attraction to the same gender. To be homo was to be a degenerate faggot.